SexLab Defeat

[Slorm]

One very small bug to report:

 

Changed surrender key to "space" but it still only works with the default "K" (space is ignored though set but K still works).

 

Everything else looks good in player as victim. The after events work and gold and stripped items are properly stolen.

 

Didn't try faction events as I assume they're not in place yet.

 

Devious Captures works fine as well, can't speak for DA as I don't use it.

 

Great update

[Goubo]

In the beta 5.3.1 I can't seem to get the death alternative to become enabled for some reason, it's greyed out entirely but on 5.3 it was available

Use the option to detect mods in MCM page general settings, it should enable DA options and disable the knock down way of defeat.

[shinji72]

Testing Defeat make me realize I've got a problem which is clearly framework related (i experienced it with Radiant prostitution also). 

 

Everything going fine (rape scene)... but then right before launching the actual sex animation, the Npc does nothing... kind of stuck

Then if I open the console menu, after a few instant the  name of the selected animation appears there.

I close the menu, the animation starts, and everything goes all right.

 

 

Have you ever observed this kind of behavior? there is a fix?
 

[Amber Fletcher]

 

In the beta 5.3.1 I can't seem to get the death alternative to become enabled for some reason, it's greyed out entirely but on 5.3 it was available

Use the option to detect mods in MCM page general settings, it should enable DA options and disable the knock down way of defeat.

 

 

I tried that and it tells me that it detected Dawnguard death alternate, but I can't figure out what that is to disable it so the DA in Defeat will work =/

[Marcus01]

Thanks for the the update Goubo! 

 

I have one question about this mod and a mod called Sneak Tools. Sneak Tools allows you to wear a mask/hood and any bounty you receive while wearing it is removed when you unequip it. Would this work for assaulting an npc? I'm going to test it but I wondered if anyone uses the mod for such purposes.

[Sakhmeth]

 

Added - Surrender function changed, you can now choose a new key to surrender, you no longer have to aim the NPC you want to surrender to, the closest NPC will come to you.

Added - Lines of dialogues for surrender, more outcomes.

Added - Followers support for surrender.

 

 

I am encountering a problem with this portion. When I surrender and try to use the Persuade option, the NPC asks me to make one of my companions strip. there is a text string failure at this point, but I still get the dialog option to make my companion remove their clothing.  I am then tied up and left alone. The NPC then walks over to her, threatens her, she responds with the usual bleed out dialog, but nothing happens after that point. The companion remains unclothed, I remain tied, but no sex scene occurs, and I am forced to load a save.

[germanicus]

Olalala! The update is out. Thanks Goubo.

[entro]

Just a quick question with Defeat and DA, do you need too turn off the DA's bleedout function for Defeat or do you turn off Defeat's function?

 

thanks

[originalwankster]

Love how you keep adding new features and refinements Goubo.

 

Question though. I'd like to try the new thresholds out, but, to be clear, is it just impossible to use them with DA installed, at all?

[afa]

Anyone testing with more than one follower? What framework you guys using?

I currently have EFF installed, thinking about switching back to AFT. They both seems to have their own quirk with Defeat in the past.

[germanicus]

afa - AFT is very stable and compatible with this mod. I have and love it a lot.

[hullay]

Everything about being a victim is working well right now using DA. Robbing also works well.

 

However, I seem to get very frequent ctd when activating enemies in bleedout for kill/rob/rape.

Papyrus log doesn't show anything since I don't think Defeat has the time to write anything before the game crashes.

 

I'm using SKSE 1.7.1 with Sexlab v1.58b

 

If anyone want to test this out, easiest way to make an enemy bleedout is to make sure he's the last one left and use frostbite spell on him.

[Littleflash06]

Everything seems to work but when change the the surrender key to something else it doesn't work.

 

I usually use a control but I tried switching it to different keys on the keyboard without any results. 

 

It seems the default key is the only way it works.I wonder if others can confirm this?

[germanicus]

The animal sex mod is also using "K" key for activating the sex with animal. The good thing is that it can be changed in that mod and changed key is working. For me, all things in the game work except necrophilia: keys for NPC and animations.

[Littleflash06]

The animal sex mod is also using "K" key for activating the sex with animal. The good thing is that it can be changed in that mod and changed key is working. For me, all things in the game work except necrophilia: keys for NPC and animations.

 

 

Well as long as its working for you I know its a problem on my end. I'm going to make it work

[Goubo]

Everything about being a victim is working well right now using DA. Robbing also works well.

 

However, I seem to get very frequent ctd when activating enemies in bleedout for kill/rob/rape.

Papyrus log doesn't show anything since I don't think Defeat has the time to write anything before the game crashes.

 

I'm using SKSE 1.7.1 with Sexlab v1.58b

 

If anyone want to test this out, easiest way to make an enemy bleedout is to make sure he's the last one left and use frostbite spell on him.

Only on bleedout or on knock downed NPC also? 

 

This bug is still present yes, I did not touch a lot on this part of the mod, I need to find the source.

 

Thanks for the the update Goubo! 

 

I have one question about this mod and a mod called Sneak Tools. Sneak Tools allows you to wear a mask/hood and any bounty you receive while wearing it is removed when you unequip it. Would this work for assaulting an npc? I'm going to test it but I wondered if anyone uses the mod for such purposes.

I dont know, depend of how the mod works.

 

 

 

Added - Surrender function changed, you can now choose a new key to surrender, you no longer have to aim the NPC you want to surrender to, the closest NPC will come to you.

Added - Lines of dialogues for surrender, more outcomes.

Added - Followers support for surrender.

 

 

I am encountering a problem with this portion. When I surrender and try to use the Persuade option, the NPC asks me to make one of my companions strip. there is a text string failure at this point, but I still get the dialog option to make my companion remove their clothing.  I am then tied up and left alone. The NPC then walks over to her, threatens her, she responds with the usual bleed out dialog, but nothing happens after that point. The companion remains unclothed, I remain tied, but no sex scene occurs, and I am forced to load a save.

 

Your papyrus log could help here, what is the text failure ? this <Alias.ShortName=Partner000> ?

You don't have to load a save, use clean up function.

This feature still need some adjustements.

 

Love how you keep adding new features and refinements Goubo.

 

Question though. I'd like to try the new thresholds out, but, to be clear, is it just impossible to use them with DA installed, at all?

 

Just a quick question with Defeat and DA, do you need too turn off the DA's bleedout function for Defeat or do you turn off Defeat's function?

 

thanks

Wound, Exhaustion, Stun and Immunity options of Defeat are disabled when DA is detected, then Defeat uses DA's knock down system, you CAN enable Wound, Exhaustion or Stun but as specified it can cause problems.

 

I'll put more info in Death Alternative section in the description and in game.

[Aria]

Thanks for the update, everything works now.

[darkangel2041]

First of all, thanks Goubo for the update and this great mod !

 

I use mainly player as victim for now. It works quiet well, but sometimes, the "fil bar" doesn't appears. I am wondering if a lot mod can overload the script.

 

And I cannot change the default key for the surrender option.

[circ]

Had the update for a few hours but gave it a try now.

 

Went by random bandits, used 'submit' hotkey, didn't work. Used K which is mapped to Survival skills from Frostfall. That worked, but I get the Frostfall menu too. So that needs fixing.

 

Great animation use with the hands up and the voices. But after submitting, 5 seconds later enemies turn aggro again. Test again - same thing.

 

So I clean up, try some other enemies and now it works. Offering your follower instead of you is a great mechanic and the animation and voices work perfectly. Looking great, just some bugfixing needed.

 

There are some additional issues though. After an enemy is done, you're immediately back in combat pretty much, and sometimes submit just doesn't do anything, other than animation. Also I still get $Defeat Cleaned up, like in some previous versions, instead of without the $. And changing the Knockdown immunity if in Werewolf or VL forms variable doesn't update but requires closing the menu and reopening to see changes.

 

What are some of the bugfixes that can't be done?

[Goubo]

So far here's what I know I need to fix:

 

- Necro seems to not trigger.

- NPCs involved in a sex scene are not registered in aliases so interrupt/stop combat on hit doesn't work.

- remap surrender key.

 

Had the update for a few hours but gave it a try now.

 

Went by random bandits, used 'submit' hotkey, didn't work. Used K which is mapped to Survival skills from Frostfall. That worked, but I get the Frostfall menu too. So that needs fixing.

 

Great animation use with the hands up and the voices. But after submitting, 5 seconds later enemies turn aggro again. Test again - same thing.

 

So I clean up, try some other enemies and now it works. Offering your follower instead of you is a great mechanic and the animation and voices work perfectly. Looking great, just some bugfixing needed.

 

There are some additional issues though. After an enemy is done, you're immediately back in combat pretty much, and sometimes submit just doesn't do anything, other than animation. Also I still get $Defeat Cleaned up, like in some previous versions, instead of without the $. And changing the Knockdown immunity if in Werewolf or VL forms variable doesn't update but requires closing the menu and reopening to see changes.

 

What are some of the bugfixes that can't be done?

Thanks for feedback.

You can surrender and raise your arms but sometimes it does not work and NPC still want to fight (when they fiight a follower for example) you simply have to retry, normally in this case the script doesn't proceed and controls are given back to the player. This is intended, it just depend of the situation and the number of aggressors.

When the aggressors turn hostiles again the controls are disabled?

 

As for more surrender outcomes I plan to expand this. Along with post-assault content.

 

As for $ it's not that important, I don't know why this happen.

 

First of all, thanks Goubo for the update and this great mod !

 

I use mainly player as victim for now. It works quiet well, but sometimes, the "fil bar" doesn't appears. I am wondering if a lot mod can overload the script.

 

And I cannot change the default key for the surrender option.

When does the fill bar dosen't appear, after the scene when you need to get up? when you attempt to resist?

[darkangel2041]

@Goubo :

 

 

I use mainly player as victim for now. It works quiet well, but sometimes, the "fil bar" doesn't appears. I am wondering if a lot mod can overload the script.


When does the fill bar dosen't appear, after the scene when you need to get up? when you attempt to resist?

 

 

It's the resist bar. The bar after beiing rapped is ok.

[manfern0]

Hello, Goubo! loving the mod! but for some reason, whenever my character is victimized, the animation lasts forever and doesn't end. I have found no clear solution and it's gamebreaking. any help?

[Rabblerouser]

Is Sexlab 1.58b a hard requirement? Some people are having issues with the new 1.58b's StorageUtil. And I'm not sure if using 1.58b with 1.57's StorageUtil is safe.

[Mord Sif]

Just a thought for those who are having an issue with the surrender hotkey. Do any of you use SD+ as well? I'm fairly certain SD+ has it's own surrender hotkey, which is also mapped by default to K. So by changing Defeat's hotkey to something else you might still get SD+ surrender options pop up when pressing the K key. (SexLab also uses K for switching between actors if you want to adjust position during an animation.)

 

I remap most of my hotkeys to number pad buttons every playthrough, trying to leave as little as possible as letter keys. When I'm renaming items I enchant, I'd rather not keep attempting to submit to the enchanting table!

[Goubo]

Hello, Goubo! loving the mod! but for some reason, whenever my character is victimized, the animation lasts forever and doesn't end. I have found no clear solution and it's gamebreaking. any help?

The sex animation? Check the settings of SexLab.

 

Is Sexlab 1.58b a hard requirement? Some people are having issues with the new 1.58b's StorageUtil. And I'm not sure if using 1.58b with 1.57's StorageUtil is safe.

It will work fine with 1.57 except for necro. (which dosen't work as for now anyway )