SexLab Defeat

[nutluck]

Might just be a fluke or you was just getting lucky. I have seen it happen but only when a enemy hits the PC hard enough to outright kill them.

[blindmankind]

hm, i played today again a bit and still got some issues :/

 

i had a probelm with defeat 5b2 where my female pc and female companion get fucked when they start to rape the enemy
with 5b3 my pc rape now the enemy - fine
but my companion still get fucked when she want to rape the enemy.. (in combat) - it works right when i knock the friendly enemy down and say to my companion that she rape the npc

and still got some other problems with the 5b3:
- when my pc raped the enemy, they do not flee and they are also friendly - when i attack again i get a bounty and friendly npcs attack me then..
- also this reequip the clothes after rape do not work well, some npcs alltime reequip and other never put clothes back on - it happen only with defeat

the papyrus log is on page http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-defeat-v5b3-530/?p=803182

 

me thanks

[Sati]

First off thanks for a great mod, thanks for putting the time in for making it.

 

I'm not too sure if this is a bug related to the newest version, but this is regarding the companion collateral.
I downloaded and installed the latest version, had a few enemies and it was just a case of my companion being in the downed position while my character was being assaulted. And the companion was left alone.

I tried with the older version 4.2.1 and it worked with after my character being assaulted, another two started and one went to my companion. With the "Bandit wants Jenessa" popping up in the corner.

I've seen and heard that it is meant to be companions are assaulted at the same time as the character also in the latest builds. But the only time I've witnessed such happen is where my companion goes down first and is assaulted during a fight.
Does anyone else experience this or does it just seem that I've goofed up somewhere? xD

If its a known issue / working for others and its just me then sorry. Just thought I'd check is all. Thanks!

[afa]

Has your companion ever got rape before with the newest version?

I have experience scenario where if they have been rape in combat, they might not get rape again for some time (not sure why), try using the Clean function to help.

[thatguylab]

None of the defeat versions work with sexlab 1.57 Anybody know where I could get an older version of sexlab?

[TnTTnT]

None of the defeat versions work with sexlab 1.57 Anybody know where I could get an older version of sexlab?

 

Defeat V5b3 work *almost* perfectly with Sexlab 1.57 (just a few event that creature rape may not work or need a few down time to trigged).

 

You try with new game yet?

[D_ManXX2]

Does anyone experience a weird bug with the newest version where the aggressor who raped an npc will just walk forward and back refuse to fight ?? It does not happen often but usually when 2 or 3 more aggressor are active at once 1 will bug out.

[devildking]

V5b3 dosent work for me. If it would trigger on bleedout via death alternative my character just instantly stands up and outside of death alternative it dosent trigger at all.

I made a new game multiple times with all mods i added since i last installed the last defeat version disabled.

[HyperPink]

I know I'm one voice out of many screaming basically the same thing, but the latest version doesn't seem to work for me.

-No other mods but the required ones (and their requirements)
-Crank threshold up to 70%.
-run into bandit fort naked

-health drops to 70% pretty quick

-drop

-resist bar comes up

-fail or succeed, I get back up, they hit me once

-drop

-repeat until death

Shifting the settings around doesn't do anything. Always death, never raep.


EDIT: Disreguard all that. My sexlab framework disabled itself for some reason...

[Slorm]

@Goubo

 

Do you think you could increase the cooldown timer up a bit please, or have it so it can be changed in the MCM. It's not a problem with humanoids, but with creatures like a bear or sabrecat its almost impossible to escape in most cases. It was always a bit of an issue, but now with the added QTE as well the pc is pretty much dead.

 

I did some testing with a wolf and it didn't seem like it even gave 10 seconds (worked fine with human attacker though)

[Anomalous Scrib]

Hmm. So the mod is currently in a bit of a major update process? I've been considering this mod for months already, and decided to try it out today. But looking at the versions availible I can't decide which I should be downloading. For someone that's never used this before, which version would people recomend currently?

[jlttsmiley]

@GOUBO

     HI Again     I am hopefull that you do not get discourage by some of the post that have been posted as of late, Many NEWBIES do not understand that you HAVE A JOP AND A LIFE , OUTSIDE of the MOD known as " SEXLAB DEFEAT " also forget how LUCKY all of us are that you take

the TIME FROM YOUR REAL LIFE to KEEP DEFEAT updated an try to make IMPROVMENTS along the way.

     EVERY ONE should always remember  YOU PAID  NO MONEY FOR THIS!!! BETA  MEANS " NOT COMPLETE "

BE NICE AND CONSIDERATE AN PATIENT.      WE TRUE MEMBERS OF LOVERSLAB FORUM  know that TRIAL AN ERROR is the only way you can GO FORWARD .  DEFEAT IS KNOWN WORLDWIDE if you GOGGLE IT you will one verson or another in someones load order . Don't no why or how but YOUTUBE HAS A FEW POSTED VIDEOS of it in action. Lastly REMEMBER SEXLAB DEFEAT BELONGS TO " GOUBO " HE IS SHARING IT WITH US!!!!

[thatguylab]

 

None of the defeat versions work with sexlab 1.57 Anybody know where I could get an older version of sexlab?

 

Defeat V5b3 work *almost* perfectly with Sexlab 1.57 (just a few event that creature rape may not work or need a few down time to trigged).

 

You try with new game yet?

 

 

I get into submit animation but the actual rape doesn't happen. My character just gets undressed and nothing happens. I guess I will try a new game tonight.

[nutluck]

 

 

None of the defeat versions work with sexlab 1.57 Anybody know where I could get an older version of sexlab?

 

Defeat V5b3 work *almost* perfectly with Sexlab 1.57 (just a few event that creature rape may not work or need a few down time to trigged).

 

You try with new game yet?

 

 

I get into submit animation but the actual rape doesn't happen. My character just gets undressed and nothing happens. I guess I will try a new game tonight.

 

 

This may have nothing to do with Defeat that just means sexlab animations are not working. Do your animations work with other mods?

 

[Gameplayer]

I got Defeat working,

I like the widget bar and the chance to be robbed. 

So for a while everything was working fine so I installed Devious Devices Integration and got that working fine too.

 

Then I tried SD+ with Death Alternative.

 

Now there are no combat rapes ever.  Tried messing around with settings in each mod in the menu and still no luck.

 

So I tried an earlier version 4.5ish, now I have them working sorta...See the transitions now are wonky...Character is getting raped in a blackout, bleedout, and even when the new master is administering the whipping some other bandit is raping.

 

A post search leads me to believe that at this time Defeat is not fully functional as intended at this time when paired with DA/SD+

 

Its a shame so much of the new stuff is unuseable in the new Defeat when paired with the other mods.

 

So I guess Im going to have to either use the earlier version and deal with bad transitions....

 

Anyone have the new defeat functioning as intended with Death Alternative and SD+?

 

Any ideas, or are we waiting for an update?

 

 

Edit

So I think I'll drop Death Alternative and Sanguine D +

 

Seems to me that if I throw those two into the load order I lose a lot.

[Church the Cat]

After the last update my character keeps getting back up after being knocked down without me hitting the resist buttons. She gets hit, she falls down, bandits or whoever strip her, but then she stands up without the rape taking place. P.S. NPCs still get raped as normal. Any ideas why?

[AshenWolf]

sigh. i have no idea if i install the mod wrong, or other mod could cause it, but i still get the perma-debuff (one with -100% hp regain and stuff) after being knocked down and not get raped. i had this debuff option to zero (always has been, since it's the most buggy part of the mod, imo) but i still get it. im using latest version, V5b3, and this bug still been going around even before this.

 

 

like i said before, i have no idea if i install the mod wrong or there's other mod that cause same debuff, so how can i fix this crap or how can i remove it? don't bother telling me to reload to previous save.

[nutluck]

After the last update my character keeps getting back up after being knocked down without me hitting the resist buttons. She gets hit, she falls down, bandits or whoever strip her, but then she stands up without the rape taking place. P.S. NPCs still get raped as normal. Any ideas why?

 

Do sex animations work with other mods?

[Gameplayer]

Alright so a lightbulb went off in my head.

 

When You have Defeat by itself it functions as Defeat normally would.

 

Pair that with Alternate Death, now in the AD menu you have a AD Priority or 50...Defeat is 80....

-How it works, Once AD is installed Defeats scene gets attached to Alternate Deaths Bleed out phase....So there is no "mid-combat scene" for the player and it makes sense considering AD prevents Death.  So your new Thresh hold is your entire health bar.  There's more! You can ensure there is a 100% chance (default is 50%) on reaching bleed out that your pc is raped 1st, after all the baddies have a go you can get back up and back into the fray.  This setting is in Defeat along with 2 other settings that pretty much make sure that in the course of a normal fight that if you reach bleed out rape is not going to happen again.

-You can also allow Defeat to apply 1 other outcomes for a bleedout state...

1) Robbery which when combined with Devious Devices basically ensures that player is put into a device.

Defeats Blackout State alternate death

1) Wilderness

2) Inn

 

Now when you put Sanguine Dabachery into the mix things get really wonky without first changing up settings.

Default Priority

AD 50

Defeat 80

SD 80

On bleedout your much more likely to see SD kick in....

 

Solution

AD 30

Defeat 80

SD 30

 

This way the first time you bleed out your likely to see a rape scene.

2nd time its a toss up between AD scene or SD scene

 

Just tested this and it does function

Character raped on first bleedout, 2nd bleedout enslaved.

 

Now there is also a 100% chance modifier in SD's mod menu that is 100% enslavement not sure yet how that impacts the chances of alternate outcomes

 

But there is also still more.

Blackout Events....SD has 8 times the priority of occurring over all of AD's events so its very unlikely to see Alternate Death events happen at all without adjusting those.

 

So when you package Defeat with other Alternate Death you get a bit of wtf its not working but in fact its working just fine and in a way its ingenious the way it is now....Its functioning fine just not the way we expect it too.  Bleedout is the new health Threshold and we have to really tweak the heck out of the other mods % chances so we see what we expect.

 

Edit

So I think to get SD+ from totally overwriting AD's alternate scenarios we would have to reduce its priority to zero in the Bleedout Phase.

bear in mind that SD+ is also in the Blackout Phase so it makes little since at all to have it in two phases.

[offnightmare]

How goes the hideout?

[Goubo]

hm, i played today again a bit and still got some issues :/

 

i had a probelm with defeat 5b2 where my female pc and female companion get fucked when they start to rape the enemy

with 5b3 my pc rape now the enemy - fine

but my companion still get fucked when she want to rape the enemy.. (in combat) - it works right when i knock the friendly enemy down and say to my companion that she rape the npc

 

and still got some other problems with the 5b3:

- when my pc raped the enemy, they do not flee and they are also friendly - when i attack again i get a bounty and friendly npcs attack me then..

- also this reequip the clothes after rape do not work well, some npcs alltime reequip and other never put clothes back on - it happen only with defeat

 

the papyrus log is on page http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-defeat-v5b3-530/?p=803182

 

me thanks

Every sex combinaisons are fix for next update.

Is the enemy that turned friendly an aggressive NPC?

About the clothes yes a rape vctim is not supposed to reequip his stuff, regardless of the SL option, I'll try to add something to improve this, some of you requested it.

 

Does anyone experience a weird bug with the newest version where the aggressor who raped an npc will just walk forward and back refuse to fight ?? It does not happen often but usually when 2 or 3 more aggressor are active at once 1 will bug out.

I believe sometimes when a NPC do an animation before his weapon is fully sheathed he'll bug out like this, it shouldn't happen because SexLab ensure the NPC put his weapon away but well... Skyrim, I'll try to think of a way to improve this.

 

Hmm. So the mod is currently in a bit of a major update process? I've been considering this mod for months already, and decided to try it out today. But looking at the versions availible I can't decide which I should be downloading. For someone that's never used this before, which version would people recomend currently?

An update is coming really soon now, should fix the last annoying bugs hopefully, I advise you to wait for it.

 

@GOUBO

     HI Again     I am hopefull that you do not get discourage by some of the post that have been posted as of late, Many NEWBIES do not understand that you HAVE A JOP AND A LIFE , OUTSIDE of the MOD known as " SEXLAB DEFEAT " also forget how LUCKY all of us are that you take

the TIME FROM YOUR REAL LIFE to KEEP DEFEAT updated an try to make IMPROVMENTS along the way.

     EVERY ONE should always remember  YOU PAID  NO MONEY FOR THIS!!! BETA  MEANS " NOT COMPLETE "

BE NICE AND CONSIDERATE AN PATIENT.      WE TRUE MEMBERS OF LOVERSLAB FORUM  know that TRIAL AN ERROR is the only way you can GO FORWARD .  DEFEAT IS KNOWN WORLDWIDE if you GOGGLE IT you will one verson or another in someones load order . Don't no why or how but YOUTUBE HAS A FEW POSTED VIDEOS of it in action. Lastly REMEMBER SEXLAB DEFEAT BELONGS TO " GOUBO " HE IS SHARING IT WITH US!!!!

Thanks for your concern but don't worry I'll not be discouraged or sad because of some negative feedbacks on an internet forum. ^^

 

sigh. i have no idea if i install the mod wrong, or other mod could cause it, but i still get the perma-debuff (one with -100% hp regain and stuff) after being knocked down and not get raped. i had this debuff option to zero (always has been, since it's the most buggy part of the mod, imo) but i still get it. im using latest version, V5b3, and this bug still been going around even before this.

 

 

like i said before, i have no idea if i install the mod wrong or there's other mod that cause same debuff, so how can i fix this crap or how can i remove it? don't bother telling me to reload to previous save.

The Wounded debuff? I'm going to delete it for the next update, not really useful anyway.

Using the Cleanup function should remove the debuff.

 

How goes the hideout?

Honestly it is in a state I can realease a version with a little hideout & the prison with a spell to imprison any NPCs/beast & corpses but this is far from what I want to do with this mod for now, I'll see if I realease it on the DIrty Deeds thread later on, it will be used to test the features that will be in the true mod.

[blindmankind]

 

hm, i played today again a bit and still got some issues :/

 

i had a probelm with defeat 5b2 where my female pc and female companion get fucked when they start to rape the enemy

with 5b3 my pc rape now the enemy - fine

but my companion still get fucked when she want to rape the enemy.. (in combat) - it works right when i knock the friendly enemy down and say to my companion that she rape the npc

 

and still got some other problems with the 5b3:

- when my pc raped the enemy, they do not flee and they are also friendly - when i attack again i get a bounty and friendly npcs attack me then..

- also this reequip the clothes after rape do not work well, some npcs alltime reequip and other never put clothes back on - it happen only with defeat

 

the papyrus log is on page http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-defeat-v5b3-530/?p=803182

 

me thanks

Every sex combinaisons are fix for next update.

Is the enemy that turned friendly an aggressive NPC?

About the clothes yes a rape vctim is not supposed to reequip his stuff, regardless of the SL option, I'll try to add something to improve this, some of you requested it.

 

what you mean with aggressive?^^

it was a redguard (that arround on map walking npc) and said to me, im a milkdrinker and then i kicked his ass ;]

 

that would be really nice, when you can do something with this reequip - but i do not understand why alot other npcs do this reequip, when it should not be ;S

 

big thanks to you goubo ❤

[AshenWolf]

 

-snip-

sigh. i have no idea if i install the mod wrong, or other mod could cause it, but i still get the perma-debuff (one with -100% hp regain and stuff) after being knocked down and not get raped. i had this debuff option to zero (always has been, since it's the most buggy part of the mod, imo) but i still get it. im using latest version, V5b3, and this bug still been going around even before this.

 

 

like i said before, i have no idea if i install the mod wrong or there's other mod that cause same debuff, so how can i fix this crap or how can i remove it? don't bother telling me to reload to previous save.

The Wounded debuff? I'm going to delete it for the next update, not really useful anyway.

Using the Cleanup function should remove the debuff.

 

-snip-

 

 

yay, i was wondering when you're going to remove/fix that debuff, it has been bothering me. and i'll do that, thanks.

[dark_sjoerd]

defeat does not wnat to install v5b3 and i dont know what to do and this is hapening on new chars

[Gameplayer]

defeat does not wnat to install v5b3 and i dont know what to do and this is hapening on new chars

 

Go to the MCM menu, you have to install/start the mod from there.  Once you've done that it should activate pretty quick, though some mods also require a save and load to finalize.  How quickly really depends on how many script mods you have, I've noticed that with LL mods kinda have to lose all the heavy script mods from nexus for them to work properly.

 

@ author or readers

I have a question as well,

 

When DA kicks in with its Blackout quest and a kickout or event occurs that is not an SD enslavement event I lose all movement control and have extremely limited camera control.  Can only open tab menu and jump basically.

 

I looked around with the search here and found a few "fixes" that did not fix the problem.

Such as player.tc to toggle player control.

 

Sorry if I missed the post if it already exists, I tried a search function and read through about 30 pages of post history.  It could be that it is posted I know I missed the posts on the new functionality when DA is paired off with Defeat.  So for that one I tried to post an explaination as best I could in case someone else had that "problem".