toys Dark Desires Club

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Yes and no is the answer
if you strictly follow the "internal logic" of the mod - as a sex slave you only get your outfit from the dominatrix - there is a language option for that
you can also find a few outfits in the chests and closets - but these serve as "gifts" -> some girls in the club will give you "mini" tasks after these outfits
If you ignore the "logic" of the mod, you can of course "cheat" any outfits via the "additem menu" and wear them - including the "uniforms" of the club - see the dependency list of the mod

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Ja und nein lautet die Antwort
wenn man streng nach der "inneren Logik" des Mods geht - bekommst Du als Sex-Sklave nur von der Domina dein Outfit - dazu gibt es ja eine Sprach-Option
weiterhin kann man in den Kisten und Schränken einige wenige Outfits finden - diese dienen aber als "Geschenke" -> einige Mädchen im Club gegeben Dir "Mini"-Aufgaben nach diesen Outfits
ignoriert man die "logik" des Mods kann man sich natürlich via "additem-menü" beliebige Outfits "cheaten" und diese anziehen - so auch die "Uniformen" des Clubs - siehe dazu die Abhängigkeitsliste des Mods

 

I see, thanks. I tried cheating them to myself but they either dont show up in my inventory, of if I try to equip them using console commands, theyre bugged. I guess Im missing the fetish wear mod, which is weird because they otherwise show alright on the other NPCs

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Stunden sagte obamaslastname:

Ich verstehe, danke. Ich habe versucht, sie für mich selbst zu betrügen, aber entweder tauchen sie nicht in meinem Inventar auf, oder wenn ich versuche, sie mit Konsolenbefehlen auszurüsten, sind sie verwanzt. Ich schätze, ich vermisse den Fetisch-Wear-Mod, was seltsam ist, weil sie ansonsten auf den anderen NPCs gut angezeigt werden

if I remember correctly...
..the original mod author initially "installed" some outfits directly - but later expanded the available outfits by additionally including the "DX Fetish Fashion" mod as a requirement.
So if you have installed the DX-Mod - you must also select this in the "additem-menu" to get the outfits
if it's not in the mod list - it's not installed correctly either

[johnwnorton]

in summary: mod doesn´t work with Anniversary Edition, cuz SOS doesnt work with it. (only sos-light works with AE what i´ve tried)

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, johnwnorton said:

in summary: mod doesn´t work with Anniversary Edition, cuz SOS doesnt work with it. (only sos-light works with AE what i´ve tried)

 

Assuming you are correct, I'd restate this as follows... Only SOS lite works with AE.

 

So this means any use of SOS, for ALL mods needs to use light for AE, right?

 

The problem is not this mod, and there is no problem if you use SOS lite. You have no choice but to use lite, or stay on SE.

 

If anyone can confirm you must use lite for AE, I can note it on the main page. The link does take you a page that tells you where to find the AE version already.

Edited August 3, 2022 by VirginMarie

[LanaRavenclaw]

32 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

[…] You have no choice but to use lite, or stay on SE.

Afaik SOS works fine on AE, but you also need to use SOS AE, which has an updated .dll for AE.

 

So what you need to do is to install SOS SE, the one that is linked on the main page, and also SOS AE, to overwrite the .dll.

[VirginMarie]

7 minutes ago, LaniusFNV said:

Afaik SOS works fine on AE, but you also need to use SOS AE, which has an updated .dll for AE.

 

So what you need to do is to install SOS SE, the one that is linked on the main page, and also SOS AE, to overwrite the .dll.

 

yup that's what I did, but. But is that lite only? I'm thinking I read that it is, but forget. If that's the case, we only have SOS lite for AE.

[Lula Luv]

The developer's decision to include different body models also seems to cause some compatibility issues. Only aesthetically, but it just looks unsightly when the outfits don't match correct.
I'm already thinking about if I should adjust everything with Bodyslide to BHUNP or so.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, GerdWagner said:

The developer's decision to include different body models also seems to cause some compatibility issues. Only aesthetically, but it just looks unsightly when the outfits don't match correct.
I'm already thinking about if I should adjust everything with Bodyslide to BHUNP or so.

 

Do you think one of the future changes should be where we revert the bodies back to vanilla, so then they all conform to what you do in bodyslide?

 

This is going to be an issue if I start putting toys on some too. I'd only do it for a few. But does putting more toys on and doing the above, break the covenant I made here?   Decisions, so many.

[Herowynne]

29 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

Do you think one of the future changes should be where we revert the bodies back to vanilla, so then they all conform to what you do in bodyslide?

That would be my preference.

[Lula Luv]

20 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Do you think one of the future changes should be where we revert the bodies back to vanilla, so then they all conform to what you do in bodyslide?

 

This is going to be an issue if I start putting toys on some too. I'd only do it for a few. But does putting more toys on and doing the above, break the covenant I made here?   Decisions, so many.

Would be great in any case and would fix all compatibility issues for clothes/toys/etc.
Different bodies types are unfortunately often not a good idea.
 

A few more toys would definitely go, but I wouldn't put the focus on that.

[VirginMarie]

5 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

That would be my preference.

 

5 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

Would be great in any case and would fix all compatibility issues for clothes/toys/etc.
Different bodies types are unfortunately often not a good idea.
 

A few more toys would definitely go, but I wouldn't put the focus on that.

 

I think we 3 (are we a 3-some?) are all thinking the same here.

 

only thing is, I think Darkdesires may have found that if all NPCs have physics going on, the graphic lag is too much for 50 NPCs in there.

Edited August 3, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Talesien]

16 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

 

I think we 3 (are we a 3-some?) are all thinking the same here.

 

only thing is, I think Darkdesires may have found that if all NPCs have physics going on, the graphic lag is too much for 50 NPCs in there.

Vanilla might be best, since it won't cause problems with say Autobody (though that can be circumvented by excluding the relevant factions). The physics problem ... aye that could cause a problem. Technically it's up to the people to control these things, but I guess we all know you will get complaints anyway as way too many folks just install what's touted as the latest and greatest without giving any thought as to what their system can actually handle.

[Miauzi]

For me, the idea that the NPCs have different body models was one of the reasons why I like the mod so much. The clothing of the NPC is not a decisive aspect of the game for me...
..I would have to be able to dress the girls in the club myself according to my own ideas (fetishes) - although this would completely go beyond the scope (and function) of the mod.
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It connects anyway the question in which direction he mod should develop further?
More NPCs?
How crowded would such a club be in real life today?
I know a lot myself - from the big party (Kit-Kat-Club) with more than 500 people - down to BDSM club evenings with hardly more than 10 people - including one or the other dominatrix -Studio
What will happen to the existing adjoining rooms - which are still without "staff" (NPCs) or which, like the "punishment room", are set up quite boringly.
(which would then create new mod dependencies for the latter)

 

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Für mich war die Idee dass die NPC unterschiedliche Körpermodelle haben einer der Gründe warum mir der Mod so gut gefällt. Die Kleidung der NPC stellt für mich kein spielentscheidender Aspekt da...
..dazu müsste ich die Mädels im Club selbst nach meinen eigenen Vorstellungen (Fetischen) einkleiden können - wobei dies ja den Umfang (und die Funktion) des Mods komplett sprengen würde.
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Es verbindet sich ja sowieso die Frage in welche Richtung sich er Mod weiter entwickeln soll?
Noch mehr NPC?
Wie voll wäre denn solche ein Club im realen Leben unserer heutigen Zeit?
Ich kenne ja selbst so einiges - von der Gross-Party (Kit-Kat-Club) mit mehr als 500 Leuten - bis "runter" zu BDSM-Club-Abenden mit kaum mehr als 10 Leuten - inkl. auch das einen oder anderen Domina-Studio
Was wird aus den bereits vorhandenen Nebenräumen - die jetzt noch ohne "Personal" (NPC sind) oder die wie der "Bestrafungsraum" ziemlich langweilig eingerichet sind.
(was bei letzterem dann wieder neue Mod-Abhängigkeiten schaffen würde)

 

[Lula Luv]

5 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

For me, the idea that the NPCs have different body models was one of the reasons why I like the mod so much. The clothing of the NPC is not a decisive aspect of the game for me...
..I would have to be able to dress the girls in the club myself according to my own ideas (fetishes) - although this would completely go beyond the scope (and function) of the mod.
--
It connects anyway the question in which direction he mod should develop further?
More NPCs?
How crowded would such a club be in real life today?
I know a lot myself - from the big party (Kit-Kat-Club) with more than 500 people - down to BDSM club evenings with hardly more than 10 people - including one or the other dominatrix -Studio
What will happen to the existing adjoining rooms - which are still without "staff" (NPCs) or which, like the "punishment room", are set up quite boringly.
(which would then create new mod dependencies for the latter)

 

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Für mich war die Idee dass die NPC unterschiedliche Körpermodelle haben einer der Gründe warum mir der Mod so gut gefällt. Die Kleidung der NPC stellt für mich kein spielentscheidender Aspekt da...
..dazu müsste ich die Mädels im Club selbst nach meinen eigenen Vorstellungen (Fetischen) einkleiden können - wobei dies ja den Umfang (und die Funktion) des Mods komplett sprengen würde.
--
Es verbindet sich ja sowieso die Frage in welche Richtung sich er Mod weiter entwickeln soll?
Noch mehr NPC?
Wie voll wäre denn solche ein Club im realen Leben unserer heutigen Zeit?
Ich kenne ja selbst so einiges - von der Gross-Party (Kit-Kat-Club) mit mehr als 500 Leuten - bis "runter" zu BDSM-Club-Abenden mit kaum mehr als 10 Leuten - inkl. auch das einen oder anderen Domina-Studio
Was wird aus den bereits vorhandenen Nebenräumen - die jetzt noch ohne "Personal" (NPC sind) oder die wie der "Bestrafungsraum" ziemlich langweilig eingerichet sind.
(was bei letzterem dann wieder neue Mod-Abhängigkeiten schaffen würde)

 

Well, I don't think it's that complicated to dress the girls yourself.
With this mod you can already do that:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/50066

You just have to bring the clothes yourself

[Talesien]

11 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

Well, I don't think it's that complicated to dress the girls yourself.
With this mod you can already do that:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/50066

You just have to bring the clothes yourself

Complicated? No. A metric ton of work to set them all up? Yes. ^^ That's the price for customization I guess.

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte GerdWagner:

Naja, ich finde es gar nicht so kompliziert, die Mädels selbst einzukleiden.
Mit diesem Mod kannst du das schon:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/50066

Sie müssen nur die Kleidung selbst mitbringen

danke

man lernt immer was dazu

dann steht ja dem Gummi-Paradies nix mehr im Weg ...

?

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natürlich kann man durch diesen Mod nicht die NPC im Club nicht aussserhalb vom Spiel ausrüsten bzw. bevor man selbst den Club das erste Mal betritt

aber egal - es wäre halt eine vollständig akzeptable "Notlösung"

Edited August 3, 2022 by Miauzi

[Lula Luv]

59 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Complicated? No. A metric ton of work to set them all up? Yes. ^^ That's the price for customization I guess.

As mentioned, the linked mod already does that. So you do not have to do it again

[Lula Luv]

9 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

danke

man lernt immer was dazu

dann steht ja dem Gummi-Paradies nix mehr im Weg ...

?

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natürlich kann man durch diesen Mod nicht die NPC im Club nicht aussserhalb vom Spiel ausrüsten bzw. bevor man selbst den Club das erste Mal betritt

aber egal - es wäre halt eine vollständig akzeptable "Notlösung"

Da müsstest du dann mit xEdit und Bodyslide arbeiten und quasi deine Outfits direkt in die Mod reinschreiben. Muss man sich erstmal reinfuchsen, aber wenn man es verstanden hat, eigentlich gar nicht so schwer.
Dann gäbe es auch noch diese Mod hier: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36869
Damit lassen sich die Outfits über einfache Befehle in einer INI Datei den NPCs im Vorfeld zuweisen. Aber auch hier braucht es xEdit, um die Outfits zusammenzustellen und letztendlich auch um die IDs der NPCs und Outfits zu ermitteln.

 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

 way too many folks just install what's touted as the latest and greatest without giving any thought as to what their system can actually handle

 

I have a message for those people...

 

[Talesien]

24 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

As mentioned, the linked mod already does that. So you do not have to do it again

Actually the metric ton of work I've been referring to is selecting and assigning the outfits, the mod does not do that, it can't and it would be self-defeating if it would.

[Miauzi]

Vor 28 Minuten sagte GerdWagner:

Da müsstest du dann mit xEdit und Bodyslide arbeiten und quasi deine Outfits direkt in die Mod reinschreiben. Muss man sich erstmal reinfuchsen, aber wenn man es verstanden hat, eigentlich gar nicht so schwer.
Dann gäbe es auch noch diese Mod hier:  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36869
Damit lassen sich die Outfits über einfache Befehle in einer INI Datei den NPCs im Vorfeld zuweisen. Aber auch hier braucht es xEdit, um die Outfits zusammenzustellen und letztendlich auch um die IDs der NPCs und Outfits zu ermitteln.

 

mit xedit einen MOd zu verändern...

..nun das ist eigentlich die Schwelle die ich nie überschreiten wollte

[Talesien]

19 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

mit xedit einen MOd zu verändern...

..nun das ist eigentlich die Schwelle die ich nie überschreiten wollte

Ich würde (idR) auch dazu raten nicht den Mod zu verändern (die Änderungen würden sonst z.B. bei jedem update verloren gehen). Besser ist es die Einträge, die man verändern will, in ein "Override file" zu kopieren und dort zu verändern.
An und für sich ist es aber keine Hexerei und bei großen Modlisten kommt man eh nicht darum herum seinen eigenen 'conflict resolution patch' zu kreieren. Es gibt einfach nicht für alles und jedes einen Patch und viele Patches die es gibt kollidieren dann wieder mit einem anderen Mod.

[Herowynne]

3 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Darkdesires may have found that if all NPCs have physics going on, the graphic lag is too much for 50 NPCs in there.

 

I think that CBPC physics could probably handle that number of NPCs.

 

However, I also think that the mod would benefit from an MCM slider to set the number of male patrons and another slider to set the number of female workers.

[Lula Luv]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

Actually the metric ton of work I've been referring to is selecting and assigning the outfits, the mod does not do that, it can't and it would be self-defeating if it would.

It's just the easiest way for the user to simply press the clothes into the hands of the NPCs ingame. Otherwise, you have to deal with xEdit, SPID, Bodyslide, etc.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Herowynne said:

 

I think that CBPC physics could probably handle that number of NPCs.

 

However, I also think that the mod would benefit from an MCM slider to set the number of male patrons and another slider to set the number of female workers.