GodSmack Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Not anymore, I used to play story first than do everything else. I go up the the point of dragons spawning then leave the world to its fate. after that I just go in a random direction do quests, get rich, buy a house and chill for a bit. sometimes I go for no death runs where if they die i start over or make a new chara, with genesis on that kinda happens every now and then so i'm all over the place. I do plan to run the story someday since I have world eater beater installed along with a few other story based mods, but only when im sure I make a chara i want to stick with for the long run. I did recently try out legend of the dragon born, but I dunno maybe I'm missing something but it was meh, but I was never one of those people that liked having a collection of anything, if its weaker than what im bonking people with I either sold it or dropped it somewhere in hilarious ways.
Papitas Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said: No comment there. They mention ll mods being script heavy. But hey, it's their mod and their choice. It is what it is. Ooooh... OK. Now I get it. In my experience, LL mods tend to be done by people who actually knows what they are doing. Ironically, the mods that have stressed my Papyrus VM the most (to the point I had to uninstall them) have been from Nexus. Not to make a worthless debate about the quality of both pages (since I use great mods from both) , but I think it's hard to deny this is a niche community filled with people with high technical knowledge about the Skyrim engine. There are many of those people in Nexus, of course, but I think the ratio of those is way higher around here. At any rate, it's their choice to believe whatever they want.
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Papitas said: Ooooh... OK. Now I get it. In my experience, LL mods tend to be done by people who actually knows what they are doing. In Ironically, the mods that have stressed my Papyrus VM the most (to the point I had to uninstall them) have been from Nexus. Not to make a worthless debate about the quality of both pages (since I use great mods from both) , but I think it's hard to deny this is a niche community filled with people with high technical knowledge about the Skyrim engine. There are many of those people in Nexus, of course, but I think the ratio of those is way higher around here. At any rate, it's their choice to believe whatever they want. I sort of agree. I'll just say that both ll and Nexus have their fair share of well written mods and noob mods.
Gukahn Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Mh.. LL mods seem to be better scripted. Nexus has the benefit of not being an adult site which calls more people to it then LL so of course there are many poor writen mods in between, as for LL Mods.. Let's be real making a framework to do things the game never had been made for? LL modders are a big part of the reason why skyrim is still relevant ? dunno about the other adult frameworks nexus holds but when it comes to compatible content, they can't compare, at least not right now
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Mh.. LL mods seem to be better scripted. Nexus has the benefit of not being an adult site which calls more people to it then LL so of course there are many poor writen mods in between, as for LL Mods.. Let's be real making a framework to do things the game never had been made for? LL modders are a big part of the reason why skyrim is still relevant ? dunno about the other adult frameworks nexus holds but when it comes to compatible content, they can't compare, at least not right now Not being a mod author myself, I can't really comment on the quality of mods. But as a user, I can say that it really comes down to whether the mods one uses agree with one another. I do know from experience that there are some LL mods I use that bork some vanilla dialogues and quests. When I mention it, the usual response is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. In the end, it's up to the user to form their opinions. If the mods do what you want it to do, great. If the mods authors say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or "oh well", then it is what it is, but I wouldn't call those mods superior to any other. But for a free-cost mod, who am I to complain?
Papitas Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 47 minutes ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said: Not being a mod author myself, I can't really comment on the quality of mods. But as a user, I can say that it really comes down to whether the mods one uses agree with one another. I do know from experience that there are some LL mods I use that bork some vanilla dialogues and quests. When I mention it, the usual response is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. In the end, it's up to the user to form their opinions. If the mods do what you want it to do, great. If the mods authors say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or "oh well", then it is what it is, but I wouldn't call those mods superior to any other. But for a free-cost mod, who am I to complain? Well this takes me back a bit to the original question. I really like LotD because I'm that kind of completitionist and in all my playthroughs I strive to collect as much items and do the most I can before my save file gets irremediably botched because... Skyrim. But I'm a modder, I have like 20 years of programming experience and I even formally studied programming at an university, bla bla bla... so I can recognize well and badly done code. I think those ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ responses are more of a "service attitude" problems than technical competency ones. LotD, for how much I love it, has some technical issues of the type "this algorithm is quite amateurish" (I published here on LL a mod that is actually related to one of those). I've made many, many mods that I will never publish because they work quite well for me but I know I would need to give them quite time consuming technical support for people who have problems with them. But not all people think like that and it's okay. It would be nice they realize that you get a kind of "responsibility" when you decide to make your work available to others, but each has their own ideas.
sofzx Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 I'm actually playing the game with just a few LL mods. Mods like defeat, aroused, animations and PrisonAlternative. I do both, playing the quest and having some fun lol. My game is based on combat mods, new lands immersive mods, aesthetic mods and some sexlab mods. Never tried Legacy of the Dragonborn.
BAB PEEG Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 I try but I see a update or a new mod and bam back to start.
belegost Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 In 10 years I've never managed a "completionist" game on one character. By "completionist" I mean do every faction, every questline, get every unique item, do the DLC's buy all houses, etc. Basically, everything. The closest I came to achieve this was twice: first time way back on X360 where I've managed everything bar Dragonborn (got halfway through) until my console finally gave up the ghost. The save file is still in my possession and I managed to convert it to PC. It is usable and could still be played but I have no desire to return to it. Second was a heavily modded run I started in early 2020 and it fell apart 600 hours later with just Dawnguard and Dark Brotherhood questlines left, which I decided to do last. It was as much a game as it was a testbed for various LL mods which I kept adding as I went. I am considering attempting doing it again though, having learned a lot about various LL mod interactions and now having a better idea what works well and what doesn't. This time it'll be LOTD focused.
27X Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 10:57 PM, Papitas said: I'm quite curious. Why do you say LotD developers don't like LL mods and won't support them? It's not like any LL mod breaks LotD or something. And it's not like many LL mods add items that are worth collecting. You really sparked my curiosity xD LoTD is a trash mod. It is horrendously coded and breaks by itself much less with other dynamic object mods in play. Simple as. It will fuck your save, period. Simply a question of when, not if. The more salient issue is IceCreamAss is a gigantic primadonna screech queen. A sex negative screech queen. Also pretty simple.
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 14 hours ago, 27X said: LoTD is a trash mod. It is horrendously coded and breaks by itself much less with other dynamic object mods in play. Simple as. It will fuck your save, period. Simply a question of when, not if. The more salient issue is IceCreamAss is a gigantic primadonna screech queen. A sex negative screech queen. Also pretty simple. He's had his moments, but at least he didn't yank his mods off Nexus during Collection-gate unlike Arthmoor.
27X Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said: He's had his moments, but at least he didn't yank his mods off Nexus during Collection-gate unlike Arthmoor. Given how badly this mod will trash your string table, not necessarily a net positive.
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, 27X said: Given how badly this mod will trash your string table, not necessarily a net positive. Funny thing, is that I've never had any problems with corrupt games. People's experience will vary depending on what else they have installed. But I'll be the first to agree that some of the scripting can be made more efficient and often requires save-exit-load events to progress certain quests. But I've never seen Ice do any actual primadonna events. Usually it's folks who spam the discussion board, not getting the point, and try to pick stupid fights and get banned from the discussion board. But I'd call that effective discussion board management rather than primadonna stuff. Or maybe I wasn't around at the right time. Shame, cause Michael Jackson wasn't there with his popcorn.
27X Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said: Funny thing, is that I've never had any problems with corrupt games. People's experience will vary depending on what else they have installed. But I'll be the first to agree that some of the scripting can be made more efficient and often requires save-exit-load events to progress certain quests. But I've never seen Ice do any actual primadonna events. Usually it's folks who spam the discussion board, not getting the point, and try to pick stupid fights and get banned from the discussion board. But I'd call that effective discussion board management rather than primadonna stuff. Or maybe I wasn't around at the right time. Shame, cause Michael Jackson wasn't there with his popcorn. He did exactly that here, case in point.
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, 27X said: He did exactly that here, case in point. I really missed it then. I thought he wanted nothing to do with LL, based on his long standing refusal to support LOTD if it had any LL mods in it.
TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, 27X said: He did exactly that here, case in point. Now I'm curious. I did a LL search and DuckDuckGo search for "icecreamassassin site:loverslab.com" and the only references on the LL forums I found are from you complaining about icecreamassassin only caring about his own mod and not "cleaning up his shit". Unless he was using some other handle, I couldn't find any forum posts from him. Or really about him except from you.
27X Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Given mod policing of drama threads, I wouldn't expect to. You also won't find threads involving bakafactory's "use" of assets or Ixum and Vectorplexus scratch fighting each other to the death either for the same rather obvious forum harmony related reasons. I neither started nor ended the thread is question, simply provided the requisite snipped code and screenshots of table fuckery, along with my opinion of his opinion.
Feyana Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 I'm fairly new to Skyrim and I like it, despite all its flaws. Fixing visuals and animation with mods was the first thing I did, and after that, the game is very enjoyable. I don't go full completionist, because it clashes with my character idea (f.ex. she wouldn't join Thieves Guild), but I try to do all quests and find myself immersed in the world. LL mods add some spice along the way. Actually, some of them fit my character and her story rather well.
RoxDox Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Some LL mods definitely aren't made for a serious playthrough. I feel some can be meshed in rather well but take something like cursed loot for instance. Its like pulling teeth. I used to use Dungeons and deviousness before the dev got tired of updating it and nuked it. Was fun enough, had a some what good balance but again had the issue of some mods that didn't mesh well like cursed loot. Not to mention constant updates threw any concurrent playthrough out the window.
Guest Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Answering the question, no. I do not. I just can not wrap my head around to play it like a normal game with all the sex content. It just does not make sense because you are the hero in the game. So i can not be a submissive party slut and at the same time be the hero to save Skyrim. Well, at least not me.
Gukahn Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, wutpickel said: So i can not be a submissive party slut and at the same time be the hero to save Skyrim I beg to differ. ? Get yourself a strong master/mistress and let them do the fighting while you suck the dragon souls.. You would just be a Dragonsoul sucker.. Shit it's actually not a bad idea...
Guest Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gukahn said: I beg to differ. ? Get yourself a strong master/mistress and let them do the fighting while you suck the dragon souls.. You would just be a Dragonsoul sucker.. Shit it's actually not a bad idea... ? Thats a serious take on the story. True perhaps. I just never felt to do it. Not saying that it isn't possible. I just never had the drive to replay the whole game with the sex vibe.
Gukahn Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, wutpickel said: Thats a serious take on the story. True perhaps. I just never felt to do it. Not saying that it isn't possible. I just never had the drive to replay the whole game with the sex vibe. I kinda try it every time in the other direction. Being a Slavemaster and doing some quests, rescue solitude for reasons like getting on Elisifs good site, well more on Falks good side... Doing a Guild to make myself known and waiting for dawnguard to hit so i can finally replay the now mostly finished serana mod but.. Yeah i understand ya. To be honest the whole chosen one gimmick kinda sucks when you get fetishes involved who hijack your process. "Mh? Slaying Alduin? Sure i do it.. Once i am done fucking my way through a bandit camp, getting my balls sucked by a daedric bitch and train Ysolda to be a good dog.. Give me 3 month." But i still try until i get bored and try another mod ?
nilead Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 I do. I dont find modding particularly enjoyable unless the end result is an actually playable game, as in - action RPG with 18+ stuff involved. And making skyrims an actuall game is fun. People say Skyrim is a trash game, and well, it kinda is. It was impressive for its time in a number of aspects, (we all love bashing bethesda, but oldrims optimization was a beauty) but its is pretty hopeless as for today. Armor system sucks, but hey, there is a mod for that. Damage model sucks, but you can cure it. Difficulty sclaing is half assed - also curable. Economy is broken - do fix it. Eventually, one can get himself a gameplay he seeks. You wont get DMC combat out of skyrim, but its possible to get a fairly decent combat experience and overall engaging gamplay loop. There is still a bunch of stuff i couldnt fix, so i keep more tinkering than playing. But if build isnt stable for that lvl 100+ run, well, its back to the drawing board. To be honest thou, those deep dives usually include massive chunks of outside content like Vigilant. There is a bunch of vanilla Skyrim content i just dont find enjoyable. On 1/11/2022 at 1:04 PM, 27X said: LoTD is a trash mod. It is horrendously coded and breaks by itself much less with other dynamic object mods in play. Simple as. It will fuck your save, period. Simply a question of when, not if. That is the most extreme "your milage may vary" example right there. Found that mod mandatory, Had ~1.5 year old save game with it, quite close to completionists. I dont have technical expertiese to actually talk about scripting quality, but as far as user experience go, if it can break save game - ive never encountered it over the years of use and multiple versions. Not sure if im lucky, or issues were fixed at some point.
pinky6225 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Depends on the play throught i'm doing, most recent were i went for a male PC doing stuff like Amorus adventures, Sexlab sex slaves, Slaverun reloaded (dominant path) and using paradise halls (and its addon mods) yeah i did all the vanilla content as it was a good excuse to go to that bandit camp and capture slaves as the majority of the vanilla quests are are along the lines of kill everything in place X, grab item Y and come back to me
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