SexLab Deadly Drain SE Enhanced - BETA

[CrawfordeL]

Hey just wanted to say great job on that last update. So far everything seems to work for me and I'm on a continuing save. (btw your character in the images looks great anywhere I can download her?)

[juste95]

Any chance to port this to Osex/Ostim?

[foreveraloneguy]

Any change of adding realistic needs and diseases compatibility?

[Someone92]

A suggestion:

A scene being aggressive or not should influence how the drainer behaves. Initially I thought the drainer should only act more vicious if they are the aggressor, but thinking about it some more I think they should also be more vicious if they are the victim (as they are doing it to protect themselves).

To keep it simple, the drain level of the drainer could be increased by 1 if the scene is aggressive.

[anonpersona]

So this mod, and the other SSE port, appear to have a feature whereby hitting someone while the mod is enabled starts a sex scene with them.

Can you please make an option to turn that off? It's very, very annoying.

[777sage]

On 10/4/2021 at 11:07 AM, kojaa said:

@777sage pretty dope update didnt see it coming today will try in a bit. but just had a badass idea. instead of just a drain to skeleton i saw on the future planned, what if.. the soul you may have or may not have captured in a BSG, could be used to res the skely boi and make him/her a non protected follower/conjured minion. e to activate window to loot or to res skely with BSG. to have protected may be too op, and would prefer a disposable cannon fodder army of skelys. the resurrection would count some exp to conjuration. sounds bad ass on paper but have no idea what kind of coding ninjutsu would be at play for that.

 

wouldnt be mad if couldnt be done, just an idea

 

Sounds interesting, however there is a problem I am immediately seeing. If you disable drain to draugr and just allow the victim to die, you could just use conjuration skills to resurrect them already without needing to consume the soul gem. This kinda makes the feature redundant unless you were looking to make them permanent thralls.

[777sage]

On 10/4/2021 at 10:42 PM, Bobguy0 said:

Hey just wanted to say great job on that last update. So far everything seems to work for me and I'm on a continuing save. (btw your character in the images looks great anywhere I can download her?)

 

Appreciate it. Glad to hear things are working again. As for Miyu, I have not uploaded her anywhere at this time.

[777sage]

On 10/6/2021 at 5:33 PM, juste95 said:

Any chance to port this to Osex/Ostim?

 

I have used Osex and Ostim, but I am not familiar with it on the coding side, plus if I recall there are a lot of state changes and I am not sure how to hook specific drain events to such states. There is also the problem of climax draining. Last I heard, some people were considering making Sexlab aroused or Sexlab compatible with it. But I have not kept up with it since. At this time, a port to Osex/Ostim is not planned.

[777sage]

On 10/9/2021 at 10:07 AM, foreveraloneguy said:

Any change of adding realistic needs and diseases compatibility?

 

Added it to the list. Hopefully can integrate that too.

Edited October 14, 2021 by 777sage

[777sage]

On 10/12/2021 at 8:32 AM, Someone92 said:

A suggestion:

A scene being aggressive or not should influence how the drainer behaves. Initially I thought the drainer should only act more vicious if they are the aggressor, but thinking about it some more I think they should also be more vicious if they are the victim (as they are doing it to protect themselves).

To keep it simple, the drain level of the drainer could be increased by 1 if the scene is aggressive.

 

For NPCs, their drainer rank is checked. Perhaps it could be easier to just set them to always lethal if they are a sexlab victim in a rape scene. This way you would only survive if you are their lover. I have an idea on how to implement it, but making it fit in would take time.

 

I would consider it. After all, another condition could be added to check if the drainer is a victim and increase their level by 1 if they are already not at max. That could also be supported for the player.

Edited October 14, 2021 by 777sage

[777sage]

On 10/12/2021 at 3:33 PM, Кhrysamere said:

The PSQ Satiation bar doesn't seem to want to increase, I'm afraid. Just goes down. What settings explicetly need to be enabled/disabled for it to function? Should DDE be below or above PSQ in your load order? etc.

 

Weird. SLDD does nothing but hit PSQs satiation function based on drain speed and satiation multiplier. It does nothing else.

 

The required/suggested settings for SLDD is:

 

• Player Enhanced Drain is active in MCM (Mandatory)
• You must ensure that the Drain speed is a reasonable amount for the change to be noticeable (recommended to be greater than 10%)
• In Mod utility you must have PSQ Satiation option enabled. And set your preferred Satiation rate. (Mandatory)

You must also either drain or autodrain during the scene. You will not gain satiation by SLDD on climax stage.

 

As for PSQ SE MCM options, the gist of it is:

 

• Ensure that you can feed on your victims. Options allow satiation feature to be active and that you are actively a succubus.
• Ensure that you don't automatically kill your victims via PSQ SE's mcm settings, as it can and will end up killing even the victims you intend to spare.

 

The only questions remaining are:

1. Are you playing as a male drainer or female drainer?
2. Is your victim a female or male NPC? Is Restrict female victims on?
3. Are you draining manually or automatically?
4. Is this with Separate Orgasms on or off?
5. Did you satisfy the above conditions for SLDD?

 

I am unable to reproduce your findings in my minimalistic mod setup. So any info you provide may help. You may know more about PSQ MCM and its quirks more than I do, since I primarily only play as a male pc in my playthroughs.

 

EDIT: You mention you saw it going down.. is this every drain? Or is it just not going anywhere and going down with time?

Edited October 14, 2021 by 777sage

[777sage]

1 hour ago, anonpersona said:

So this mod, and the other SSE port, appear to have a feature whereby hitting someone while the mod is enabled starts a sex scene with them.

Can you please make an option to turn that off? It's very, very annoying.

 

This doesn't make sense to me. SLDD has no trigger for OnHit sexlab events. I am thinking that if you had tried the original SSE port, you may be dealing with a situation where the hotkey for sexual kissing is set and baked into the save. So when you tried this version after that, the hotkey is still present. Try setting all unneeded hotkeys to the ESC key in this version and see if you have the same issue. I am not able to reproduce your issue in my testing mod load order. In my main load order I have the mod enabled and did not encounter what you described. No one else has expressed having this issue so perhaps there might be a conflict.

 

Is your attack hotkey binded to the kissing animation hotkey? Can you show me screenshots of your settings and send details of your installed mods?

 

If you tried this version first and encountered the issue, can you still share your settings and your mod load order info? If you tried my version first, all hotkeys are set to ESC by default which effectively disables them.

[777sage]

On 10/3/2021 at 2:03 PM, MuchW0W said:

MME features hizzah! future milk options seens cool too

Any chance when your back log of stuff its done you add some .. hook in with fertility mod if maybe player is more aggressive if pregnant or ovulating during drains etc. 

?

 

You referring to this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13068

 

I'd need some scenario to have an understanding of what you have in mind. No guarantees, but I am curious.

[NexusRefugee]

with this too since its pretty much the new standard to have with fertility mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/46820

 

With psq or as vampire I guess all could work or station/blood drinking.

Not Pregnant
normal drain settings
ovulating/fertile – the PC will be aroused more than usual during this time wanting to drain more victims.

Random drain to death setting on*
normal drain settings
ovulating/fertile – the PC will be aroused more than usual during this time wanting to drain more victims. The PC has higher chance to drain NPC’s to death even when they don’t want to *random death drain*



Pregnant
Normal drain settings
When pregnant as the pregnancy progresses to later stages the PC wants to more draining as if feeding the PC baby.


 

With MME *don’t know your plans for stage 2 or with more ineed phase 2 integration -

but better-quality milk could be dropped automatically when you’re a Pregnant Succubus and you milk*. To sell or drink for ineed or status effect that MME milks give.


This is what came to mind.... degeneracy! lol

[Someone92]

17 hours ago, 777sage said:

Perhaps it could be easier to just set them to always lethal if they are a sexlab victim in a rape scene.

You can properly make it even easier and just check if it is an aggressive scene. After all, why should a drainer rapist care about the victim?

[foreveraloneguy]

Another question, but not about this mod directly. My question is more about player succubus quest, since this mod has an integration with PSQ. With the default orgasm events disabled as recommended on the main page, PSQ satiation never increases. I've tried upping the slider for this mod to 1.5 with no change in behavior. Can anyone confirm that this is working for them and it's just my setup that's broken? Or does anyone have a patch for PSQ and SLSO? I know about SLSO Player Succubus Addon, but that requires killing the NPC in order to feed.

[Dasvizord]

is there a way to force the MCM to show up?

[anonpersona]

On 10/14/2021 at 5:21 AM, 777sage said:

 

This doesn't make sense to me. SLDD has no trigger for OnHit sexlab events. I am thinking that if you had tried the original SSE port, you may be dealing with a situation where the hotkey for sexual kissing is set and baked into the save. So when you tried this version after that, the hotkey is still present. Try setting all unneeded hotkeys to the ESC key in this version and see if you have the same issue. I am not able to reproduce your issue in my testing mod load order. In my main load order I have the mod enabled and did not encounter what you described. No one else has expressed having this issue so perhaps there might be a conflict.

 

Is your attack hotkey binded to the kissing animation hotkey? Can you show me screenshots of your settings and send details of your installed mods?

 

If you tried this version first and encountered the issue, can you still share your settings and your mod load order info? If you tried my version first, all hotkeys are set to ESC by default which effectively disables them.

You correctly identified the issue! A bit of tweaking and a save revert later and I got it fixed. Thank you very much, I'm really impressed. My apologies for assuming this was a feature and not a bug.

[777sage]

On 10/14/2021 at 1:01 PM, MuchW0W said:

with this too since its pretty much the new standard to have with fertility mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/46820

 

With psq or as vampire I guess all could work or station/blood drinking.

Not Pregnant
normal drain settings
ovulating/fertile – the PC will be aroused more than usual during this time wanting to drain more victims.

Random drain to death setting on*
normal drain settings
ovulating/fertile – the PC will be aroused more than usual during this time wanting to drain more victims. The PC has higher chance to drain NPC’s to death even when they don’t want to *random death drain*



Pregnant
Normal drain settings
When pregnant as the pregnancy progresses to later stages the PC wants to more draining as if feeding the PC baby.


 

With MME *don’t know your plans for stage 2 or with more ineed phase 2 integration -

but better-quality milk could be dropped automatically when you’re a Pregnant Succubus and you milk*. To sell or drink for ineed or status effect that MME milks give.


This is what came to mind.... degeneracy! lol

 

Wow, you damn degenerate. LMAO. I cant talk myself, since I literally added support for milky tits brought in by MME so I'll just call you a fellow member of culture.

 

The way I see it, perhaps killing the victim outright is a bit much. but a modifier to the drain rate can be used which could lead them to a potential death at a faster pace. The reason for this perspective is because you could already be a lethal drainer. Or perhaps you want the event to be randomly change your intend to kill without telling you? That would be trippy, and funny. But the baby being the incentive alone doesn't fit on its own. 

 

The problem with "feeding" the baby while pregnant is that it seems excessive to me if that is the sole reason for the event. The baby isn't born, and would eat anything you do. We could instead say that while pregnant, your drainer level increases by one if not already at 2. In otherwords you are more dangerous because you are a hungry momma. Of course I am just speculating if I am to add such functionality.

 

But it would make for some interesting stories from people's playthroughs.

[777sage]

On 10/14/2021 at 5:07 PM, Someone92 said:

You can properly make it even easier and just check if it is an aggressive scene. After all, why should a drainer rapist care about the victim?

 

True, but then you have a problem. What if you are a male PC aggressing on a female drainer? What if you and her are lovers and she likes it rough? -lol-. She could also rape you when she can't help herself, that doesn't mean she wouldn't care about you. Of course I am just thinking of scenarios that could be brought on from Sex Slave mods, Devious Followers, and perhaps even a few romance mods I can't remember. Scent of Sex scenarios of similar nature can created and occur in game.

 

I suppose the easiest way to handle it would be to make player specific checks to see if the scene is aggressive and the player is not the victim, but is a drainer in the scene. In the event you are the victim and aggressor is a drainer you could be fair game as well.  I'd probably have to make those togglable options. I was considering something similar for those who have succubus companions that could be taken advantaged of in SL defeat for example. Thankfully, because I use Scent of sex I dont necessarily need to install those mods to test aggressive scenes. I'll see what I can do.

[777sage]

On 10/17/2021 at 12:24 PM, foreveraloneguy said:

Another question, but not about this mod directly. My question is more about player succubus quest, since this mod has an integration with PSQ. With the default orgasm events disabled as recommended on the main page, PSQ satiation never increases. I've tried upping the slider for this mod to 1.5 with no change in behavior. Can anyone confirm that this is working for them and it's just my setup that's broken? Or does anyone have a patch for PSQ and SLSO? I know about SLSO Player Succubus Addon, but that requires killing the NPC in order to feed.

 

You no longer have to have SLSO's always orgasm disabled. You can leave it on. SLDD checks and disables it during the scene and re-enables it after that. There are no separate patches for this version of SLDD and PSQ SE.

 

Are you actively draining during the sex scene? Whether manual or automatic. Who were you draining? Can you send screen shots of your settings for the following MCM screens:

1. General
2. Mod Utility
3. Compatibility

Are you actively able to drain from any NPC at all? I can see statuses of follower NPCs when I test it in real time via UI widgets but i know most people cant. Start a scene and open the console, click on the victim you are having sex with and feeding on and note their HP. After one or 2 drains, open console again and check the same status. Did it decrease?

 

Sorry for the late response, kinda strapped for time these recent few quarters. Which version of this SLDD are you using? Standard? Vampiric Thirst? Better Vampires?

 

Can you also include a log. Just start a scene, try to drain and then when done, send your log file to me so I can see where there is a potential failure.

 

[777sage]

On 10/17/2021 at 9:02 PM, Dasvizord said:

is there a way to force the MCM to show up?

 

if the MCM has not shown up please wait a few minutes. If it doesn't, please use this command in the console: setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1

 

If that doesn't work, how many MCM plugins do you have active? Another user expressed their inability to use the SLDD MCM because they hit the 128 MCM plugin limit.

[777sage]

On 10/18/2021 at 3:33 PM, anonpersona said:

You correctly identified the issue! A bit of tweaking and a save revert later and I got it fixed. Thank you very much, I'm really impressed. My apologies for assuming this was a feature and not a bug.

 

I am glad I was able to help. Enjoy! Let me know of any bugs or defects you may find. Be mindful to ensure that they are not caused by another mod first. I know hard it gets to track things down when so many things are happening in the scripts, so if you find anything try to be as detailed as possible so I can try and reproduce it.

[foreveraloneguy]

28 minutes ago, 777sage said:

 

You no longer have to have SLSO's always orgasm disabled. You can leave it on. SLDD checks and disables it during the scene and re-enables it after that. There are no separate patches for this version of SLDD and PSQ SE.

 

Are you actively draining during the sex scene? Whether manual or automatic. Who were you draining? Can you send screen shots of your settings for the following MCM screens:

1. General
2. Mod Utility
3. Compatibility

Are you actively able to drain from any NPC at all? I can see statuses of follower NPCs when I test it in real time via UI widgets but i know most people cant. Start a scene and open the console, click on the victim you are having sex with and feeding on and note their HP. After one or 2 drains, open console again and check the same status. Did it decrease?

 

Sorry for the late response, kinda strapped for time these recent few quarters. Which version of this SLDD are you using? Standard? Vampiric Thirst? Better Vampires?

 

Can you also include a log. Just start a scene, try to drain and then when done, send your log file to me so I can see where there is a potential failure.

 

Thanks for getting back to me. So here's what I found... there's a patch in SSLX for PSQ+SLSO+SLA. I added that to my load order and everything works now. SLDD drains and PSQ updates succubus stats/energy. I left always orgasm on for NPCs since I have SLSO game disabled per the recommendations.

And to answer your questions:

Draining: yes
Version: Better vampires 0.8e

On a separate note, I'm still having an issue where if I set my drain type above 0 it seems to always kill non-essential NPCs even if I tell SLDD to spare their life. PSQ draining is set to never kill. These are not NPCs I have a high relationship rank with and they are not set essential. The only way to get it to not kill them is to deactivate draining for that encounter. Also, I have manual draining set to kill NPCs, but with draining type set to 0, manual draining never kills them. Or at least I haven't been able to get it to kill them.

Edited October 19, 2021 by foreveraloneguy

[venomr]

On 10/17/2021 at 9:24 AM, foreveraloneguy said:

Another question, but not about this mod directly. My question is more about player succubus quest, since this mod has an integration with PSQ. With the default orgasm events disabled as recommended on the main page, PSQ satiation never increases. I've tried upping the slider for this mod to 1.5 with no change in behavior. Can anyone confirm that this is working for them and it's just my setup that's broken? Or does anyone have a patch for PSQ and SLSO? I know about SLSO Player Succubus Addon, but that requires killing the NPC in order to feed.

 

I think normally, PSQ satiation doesn't increase if you quickly skip stages by pressing the space bar. Let the animation play out and see if that works.