Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kalysto said: Would you be friends with someone that has been forced upon you? I wouldn't really call what I described forcing someone upon her. It's basically the equivalent of when you go to a dinner party, and the hostess places you next to someone and suggests that you two would get along... except in the context of slavery. The way I've written it, there's plenty of room for users to use their imaginations to fill in what all is really going on according to their tastes. But friendship is basically mostly just a matter of having shared experiences. 10 hours ago, Kalysto said: Maybe if you ask a trained slave to help another new slave and friendships could develop from that (if they are compatible somehow). I would love it if you could assign them to cooperatively do chores together and to share a cage together and so on, so that you'd get more organic shared experiences, but that would be an absolutely massive project, if it's even possible to do well at all in Skyrim's engine. A simple dialogue interaction like I've proposed is actually feasible. 10 hours ago, Kalysto said: It might be difficult to implement it like you stated because it requires managing state between two NPC dialogue trees. I don't know what you mean here, exactly, but I think you're overthinking it. It's possible I'm just ignorant of something, but I don't see why the same approach as the HSH mines wouldn't work just fine. It's basically just a blocking dialogue. 10 hours ago, Kalysto said: A compromise by ending all friendships of the target slave may suffice. This wouldn't work nearly as well. The goal is to be able to get all of your favourite companions to be friends with one another. If you have to start from scratch every time one of them befriends the random new capture, you'll never reach the goal unless you drop everything else you're doing in-game until the friendships are established. 10 hours ago, Kalysto said: And I wouldn't be so nice to the slave to say the least. Meat doesn't have friends. Well, to some extent, the more oppressive the owner, the more intense the slaves' friendships are likely to be. Nothing brings people together like shared adversity, after all. But if you wanted to be especially cruel, with the mechanism I've proposed, you actually could try to force your slaves to not have any friends. But I just want my sweet pets to all get along and to like each other as much as I do! 7 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Can you give me an item and a number when this is happening so I can try to reproduce? I haven't been able to pin it down to anything specific. But it happens pretty reliably with large quantities of any assortment of crafting materials. Dump all of your ore, ingots, and pelts on a slave, then go home and unload her. It's almost guaranteed to cause it in my experience. 10 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said: Maybe the slave asks for some money to buy a gift for her friend and the player can be loving and supportive, punish them for impudence or demand extra from the slave in return That could be a really cool feature in the future, but we need to get the foundation right, first. There's no sense building cool stuff to do with friends until friendship formation is on firm ground. But I could see some really sweet (or cruel, for you monsters out there!) interactions around a feature like that. You probably wouldn't want to have slaves using forcegreets, so I guess it'd be best to do it with a blocking dialogue that checks for the "City" keyword so they aren't asking in strange places. Sounds doable. Could be hard to work around the slaves' names in dialogue issue, though. With the mechanism I'm suggesting, you can sidestep that with point her out instead of needing to specify a name through dialogue, but NPCs can't use that technique. Edited August 18, 2022 by Antiope_Apollonia 2
Farsh-nuke Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Caveat before anything I am about to say: Antiope is right. The focus should be on the basics first. That said if you can make slaves have friends or not have friends what if that was extended to romance. Now yes it's not very realistic but I can imagine players having a lot of fun with the cruelty aspect of that mod and I can imagine Antiope being ridiculously sweet with it. 1
Redninja32 Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 what mod do you use to get tears on the faces of your npcs?
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, Redninja32 said: what mod do you use to get tears on the faces of your npcs? On 3/25/2021 at 7:24 PM, TrollAutokill said: Recommended installation order is: Essential mods Slavetats (if you want tears and blush)
Villianize Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Need some assistance with something. I've been using NFF on released slaves to make them followers but, some slaves seem to be angry after release to the PC. They'll have the in love mood woth 100 in all stats but upon release they hate the PC. I've also had former slaves with the same stats be completely fine with the PC. Any advice?
Farsh-nuke Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Villianize said: Need some assistance with something. I've been using NFF on released slaves to make them followers but, some slaves seem to be angry after release to the PC. They'll have the in love mood woth 100 in all stats but upon release they hate the PC. I've also had former slaves with the same stats be completely fine with the PC. Any advice? If someone loves being your slave they may take release as rejection. 1
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, Villianize said: Need some assistance with something. I've been using NFF on released slaves to make them followers but, some slaves seem to be angry after release to the PC. They'll have the in love mood woth 100 in all stats but upon release they hate the PC. I've also had former slaves with the same stats be completely fine with the PC. Any advice? PAHE/DoM doesn't really have a system for what to do with released slaves. In core PAHE, I think they still just despawn. So you're just working with the vanilla disposition system. You can set their relationship rank with the console. 34 minutes ago, Farsh-nuke said: If someone loves being your slave they may take release as rejection. Agreed, although I'd think of it more as abandonment. Part of the appeal of submission is that Mistress will always take care of you. If she suddenly throws you out into the world on your own, that'd be a rude awakening! 1
w0wlol Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 5:34 PM, Antiope_Apollonia said: That's pretty much what I've been doing since the beginning of DoM. You just need to learn which buttons to press, so to speak. Not saying that you didn't put work into making it a viable route (it worked very well up to this point, albeit with room for improvement) but this last update has made it much harder it seems, but then again maybe it was the point, but I still feel like it lacks "care" options. I also noticed that new lines were added at the very begin of sex scenes (just before the scene starts) but the positioning is cutting the dialogue off, so until voices are added it's impossible to read what they say, and I know I am missing out on some very important hints. (and yes, I have Fuz Roh Doh installed). I tested the new compliment system a bit, I really enjoy it so far (altough as mentioned before, having to go trough 'listen to me slave' - 'I have something important to tell you' can be a bit tedious, easy to misclick especially with other options available, but that's just me nit-picking, I know the dialogue system in Skyrim has limitations, hence the shortcuts). I think a very nice addition to it would be for the Slave to have a reaction to those statements (being proud would get them to stand in respect, saying they are beautiful would make them blush (or engage a kiss tagged animation if in the relationship stage 'in love, falling in love, or even I'm on your side). saying they are sexy would make them aroused, engage a sex animation (preferably with cowgirl tag animation to have more of a service feel to it) if the relation status is high enough ('in love, falling in love...) or if they have certain traits (i.e. Whore). Also a system that would detect if the master took their virginity or if the slave gave it to the master would be nice, especially for comforting, sometime I comfort with care for like 20x in a row and they stay shocked, with no upgrades, and only when I comfort with love there is any progress, but then they loose their virginity and I don't hear the end of it, perhaps depending on the virginity the comfort with love should use animations depending on their virginity (and if true virgin, use kiss animation). Maybe a Libertine/Whore virgin slave might actually want their Master to make a move on them, perhaps they could be the one to initiate it. Or a prude one wouldn't initiate anything more than kissing until very high relationship stage. Another idea for a 'care' option would be to 'offer' food and drink (instead of forcefully chugging a bottle of alcohol down their throats) or give them relaxing options (dunno if there are animations that would offer to bathe them, or massage them) to lower their stress level (that if extremely difficult to get down, for me anyways, haven't figured a system yet, leaving them alone, giving them a drink, praise, etc, all turn them hysterical in no time at all). I also notice that the 'pose for me pretty' doesn't appear anymore, nor the 'strip now, I'll have some fun with you' (can't remember if that one was from this mod), are those removed or have conditions been added for their appearance ? (or is my game buggin' ?).
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: I also noticed that new lines were added at the very begin of sex scenes (just before the scene starts) but the positioning is cutting the dialogue off, so until voices are added it's impossible to read what they say, and I know I am missing out on some very important hints. (and yes, I have Fuz Roh Doh installed). If you disable automatic free cam in SexLab's MCM—or just manually toggle free cam with the hotkey after the scene starts—you can read subtitles during sex. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: I tested the new compliment system a bit, I really enjoy it so far (altough as mentioned before, having to go trough 'listen to me slave' - 'I have something important to tell you' can be a bit tedious, easy to misclick especially with other options available, but that's just me nit-picking, I know the dialogue system in Skyrim has limitations, hence the shortcuts). DoM's dialogue is organised about as well as is possible given the limitations both of Skyrim and of being an addon rather than a standalone mod. Not everything can be in the root dialogue tree, after all. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: I think a very nice addition to it would be for the Slave to have a reaction to those statements (being proud would get them to stand in respect, saying they are beautiful would make them blush (or engage a kiss tagged animation if in the relationship stage 'in love, falling in love, or even I'm on your side). saying they are sexy would make them aroused, engage a sex animation (preferably with cowgirl tag animation to have more of a service feel to it) if the relation status is high enough ('in love, falling in love...) or if they have certain traits (i.e. Whore). Eew, no thanks! Let me talk to my slaves without everything having to be about sex all the time. Also, keep in mind that Troll isn't an animator. There have to actually be animations available for these things. I'd love to see a simple kiss on the forehead to accompany the compliments or some other tender moment, but I sure don't know how to animate it, either. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: Also a system that would detect if the master took their virginity or if the slave gave it to the master would be nice, especially for comforting, sometime I comfort with care for like 20x in a row and they stay shocked, with no upgrades, and only when I comfort with love there is any progress, but then they loose their virginity and I don't hear the end of it, perhaps depending on the virginity the comfort with love should use animations depending on their virginity (and if true virgin, use kiss animation). I've suggested this a bunch of times, and Troll has never commented on it, so I don't know what the status of the idea is. But I'd really like to see comfort sex call animations with the Foreplay or Cuddling tag(s) and thus not claim virginity. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: Maybe a Libertine/Whore virgin slave might actually want their Master to make a move on them, perhaps they could be the one to initiate it. Or a prude one wouldn't initiate anything more than kissing until very high relationship stage. Virginal slaves who are In Love have dialogues asking you to deflower them. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: Another idea for a 'care' option would be to 'offer' food and drink The problem with this is, once you introduce the mechanic of feeding your slaves, what if you don't feed them? It's not really an immersion issue to just ignore food entirely and imagine it's being taken care of off-screen, so to speak. But once you draw attention to it, then it feels obligatory. I proposed something along these lines ages ago (wow, 132 pages ago, lol), and I still like the idea, but it would have to be better developed than just a dialogue to hand them a piece of food in order to feel good, and that's a big project, so I'm not surprised Troll hasn't wanted to take it on given everything else on his plate. Maybe some day. Spoiler On 11/4/2021 at 9:44 PM, Antiope_Apollonia said: 1) It seems like someone much cleverer than I am could do something really awesome with a "PAHE Survival" extension, where you have to feed your slaves or they'll starve. (Or @CliftonJD could build such a thing into a future version of core PAHE, although you wouldn't want it to be mandatory, and I imagine his/her hands are plenty full already). If you let them go hungry, before they starve, it could cause them to misbehave or even rebel, but perhaps perfectly well-trained slaves actually would just starve before disobeying their mistress. I suppose HSH Taskmasters / DoM Thugs would be responsible for feeding slaves under their care, but the player would have to provide them with bulk food to do so; bonus points if you have a dialogue option with the taskmaster/thug to the effect of, "You don't have to feed the other slaves today—I'll do it while I'm here." When you feed slaves yourself, you could have some options for how to do so, e.g., eating out of a dog bowl for humiliation training or eating out of mistress's hand for a reward (mega bonus points for including custom animations for these). It's probably worth pointing out that this might require tweaking the default inventory of food vendors to carry higher quantities of staple foods. You could further have optional Frostfall integration for warmth, but I wouldn't be interested in that, personally. This extension would address a significant gap in B&D culture as currently represented in these mods, as a big part of the dom's role in dom/sub relationships is taking responsibility for making sure the sub's basic needs are all met. 2 hours ago, w0wlol said: I also notice that the 'pose for me pretty' doesn't appear anymore, nor the 'strip now, I'll have some fun with you' (can't remember if that one was from this mod), are those removed or have conditions been added for their appearance ? (or is my game buggin' ?). Those dialogues are from HSH. Edited August 18, 2022 by Antiope_Apollonia
TrollAutokill Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Version 3.0.3 is out with minor bug fixes and more dialogues from @Farsh-nuke Biggest change should be that the infamous 3 lines of dialogues have now personality checks on them so they should happen less often. Attached is a script to dump dialogue lines for xVAsynth, taking into account race. That is Argonian lines are only dumped for Argonanian voicetype, same for Khajiit and Orcs. Human/Elven voice types are different, Breton raceonly lines are not dumped for voice types explicitely tagged as Nord/Imperial/Dark elf/... same for other Human/Elven races. The script also looks for existing fuz files and doesn't create an entry for the dialogue line if it already exists. Don't forget to change the paths to your system: audioOutputPath, cachePath and outputPath xVASynth Dialogue Export_ALLFemalesAndMales.pas Edited August 18, 2022 by TrollAutokill 3
Farsh-nuke Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Version 3.0.3 is out with minor bug fixes and more dialogues from @Farsh-nuke Biggest change should be that the infamous 3 lines of dialogues have now personality checks on them so they should happen less often. Attached is a script to dump dialogue lines for xVAsynth, taking into account race. That is Argonian lines are only dumped for Argonanian voicetype, same for Khajiit and Orcs. Human/Elven voice types are different, Breton raceonly lines are not dumped for voice types explicitely tagged as Nord/Imperial/Dark elf/... same for other Human/Elven races. The script also looks for existing fuz files and doesn't create an entry for the dialogue line if it already exists. Don't forget to change the paths to your system: audioOutputPath, cachePath and outputPath xVASynth Dialogue Export_ALLFemalesAndMales.pas 50.33 kB · 1 download Sorry, Jasmine. Frankly sorry Antiope for the bad grammar you'll inevitably find. I hope it helps.
w0wlol Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: If you disable automatic free cam in SexLab's MCM—or just manually toggle free cam with the hotkey after the scene starts—you can read subtitles during sex. Mine is disabled by default, it's not a camera issue, it's the positioning of characters that cuts it off, as I said it's a line that appears just before the animation starts, it's very hard to spot that it's even happening at all (mostly I know cause of LipSync). 2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: DoM's dialogue is organised about as well as is possible given the limitations both of Skyrim and of being an addon rather than a standalone mod. Not everything can be in the root dialogue tree, after all. Which is why I said it was a nit-pick, an alternative would be to increase/decrease a modifier for that effect trough MCM like with punishment, praise, etc... so we won't have to use it as much to have the effect. 2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Eew, no thanks! Let me talk to my slaves without everything having to be about sex all the time. Also, keep in mind that Troll isn't an animator. There have to actually be animations available for these things. I'd love to see a simple kiss on the forehead to accompany the compliments or some other tender moment, but I sure don't know how to animate it, either. 1- the bonus effect could be on a % chance of taking place (modifiable via MCM) and doesn't have to be a sex scene every time, can be just a variety of comments depending on mood, relationship and traits for most times. 2- I know Troll is not an animator, but there is a lot of resources out there (i.e. GS poses), I am just curious if some of those poses could be used to create 'care' scenarios, bathing and massages were just ideas, could be something else if a certain animation inspires Troll (like how he uses the Choking for setting an example). 2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Virginal slaves who are In Love have dialogues asking you to deflower them. Yeah but good luck getting to that phase without engaging in sex beforehand, hence one of the reasons I ask for more "care" alternatives to boost love without intercourse (that mostly are tagged as vaginal), and I also mentioned slaves with 'Libertine/Whore' traits, so some who'd be likely to ask for it without being in love. 2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: The problem with this is, once you introduce the mechanic of feeding your slaves, what if you don't feed them? It's not really an immersion issue to just ignore food entirely and imagine it's being taken care of off-screen, so to speak. But once you draw attention to it, then it feels obligatory. I proposed something along these lines ages ago (wow, 132 pages ago, lol), and I still like the idea, but it would have to be better developed than just a dialogue to hand them a piece of food in order to feel good, and that's a big project, so I'm not surprised Troll hasn't wanted to take it on given everything else on his plate. Maybe some day. This was just an idea for a 'care' mechanic, purely based on an already existing one, in my idea the "food" would be a "treat" like a pie, fruit or sweetroll (perhaps add a special delicacy called a SweetTroll) and the idea is to show kindness, not to "Keep them alive". but ofc these are just ideas and suggestions, I am definitely not asking Troll to drop everything and focus on my personal wants, I am just sharing a personal opinion on something I would like to see, if it pleases the creator to implement it of course. 3 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Those dialogues are from HSH. Aaaaah, my bad, derpy me, ?.
w0wlol Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Version 3.0.3 is out with minor bug fixes and more dialogues from @Farsh-nuke Thank you for the update ❤️ 2
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, w0wlol said: 1- the bonus effect could be on a % chance of taking place (modifiable via MCM) and doesn't have to be a sex scene every time, can be just a variety of comments depending on mood, relationship and traits for most times. They're compliments. They shouldn't be a whole ordeal. When I tell my friend I like her new shoes, she thanks me for noticing, and we move on. I'm all in favour of new systems that add more ways to be nice to my pets, but don't overcomplicate what's already a perfectly good system. Compliments are a great way to show a little extra affection for my good girls while we're busy with other things, without having to drop everything else. If you want to have sex after complimenting her, then there's already a way to do that. There's no reason to automatically string events together when the player can just do one thing after another. 13 minutes ago, w0wlol said: Yeah but good luck getting to that phase without engaging in sex beforehand, It's really not hard once you know the mod's systems. Have them masturbate to climax, compliment them, and make sure the ratio of positive interactions (praise, comfort, etc.) to negative interactions (punishment, rape, etc.) is as favourable as possible.
TrollAutokill Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 I will do a dump of all the dialogue lines for anyone wanting to proof read them. Maybe @Antiope_Apollonia ? And no I will not capitalize master/mistress. That would be too much, so I decided for no capitals.
Redninja32 Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 How does orgasm training work because I feel like i'm always orgasming and they're always squirming but the slaves themselves rarely orgasm.
Kalysto Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 9 hours ago, w0wlol said: 12 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: The problem with this is, once you introduce the mechanic of feeding your slaves, what if you don't feed them? It's not really an immersion issue to just ignore food entirely and imagine it's being taken care of off-screen, so to speak. But once you draw attention to it, then it feels obligatory. I proposed something along these lines ages ago (wow, 132 pages ago, lol), and I still like the idea, but it would have to be better developed than just a dialogue to hand them a piece of food in order to feel good, and that's a big project, so I'm not surprised Troll hasn't wanted to take it on given everything else on his plate. Maybe some day. This was just an idea for a 'care' mechanic, purely based on an already existing one, in my idea the "food" would be a "treat" like a pie, fruit or sweetroll (perhaps add a special delicacy called a SweetTroll) and the idea is to show kindness, not to "Keep them alive". but ofc these are just ideas and suggestions, I am definitely not asking Troll to drop everything and focus on my personal wants, I am just sharing a personal opinion on something I would like to see, if it pleases the creator to implement it of course. These kind of features can be implemented as DoM extensions (as I did for the VR interaction). This 'care' mechanic is basically what in DoM is a praise action. You praise them with a sweetroll and their stats change as DoM is designed to do when you praise them. Specially because as DoM grows and grows there will be a moment in which it will be difficult to maintain. 1
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: I will do a dump of all the dialogue lines for anyone wanting to proof read them. Maybe @Antiope_Apollonia ? Sure. I can't promise how long it'll take me, but I'll have a look. 8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: And no I will not capitalize master/mistress. That would be too much, so I decided for no capitals. What do you mean, "too much"? Titles of address are conventionally always capitalised in English, whether it's Mistress, Ma'am, or Mother. Lowercase "mistress" looks... disrespectful.
Farsh-nuke Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Sure. I can't promise how long it'll take me, but I'll have a look. What do you mean, "too much"? Titles of address are conventionally always capitalised in English, whether it's Mistress, Ma'am, or Mother. Lowercase "mistress" looks... disrespectful. You don't know how many lines I sent as alternatives for those three lines. Although I do think find/replace works to change capitalisation
TrollAutokill Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: What do you mean, "too much"? Titles of address are conventionally always capitalised in English, whether it's Mistress, Ma'am, or Mother. Lowercase "mistress" looks... disrespectful. I meant too much hassle to replace those one by one, but I found a solution. It will be corrected in next version. I couldn't find a search/replace function in SSEEdit, so I made a script for that. You'll find it in the first attachment for the people interested. The second attachment is for @Antiope_Apollonia or any1 willing to proofread the 2000 lines of DoM's dialogues. DELETED, see post below. Replace text in Dialog Topics.pas Edited August 19, 2022 by TrollAutokill 2
Farsh-nuke Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: I meant too much hassle to replace those one by one, but I found a solution. It will be corrected in next version. I couldn't find a search/replace function in SSEEdit, so I made a script for that. You'll find it in the first attachment for the people interested. The second attachment is for @Antiope_Apollonia or any1 willing to proofread the 2000 lines of DoM's dialogues. Replace text in Dialog Topics.pas 1.46 kB · 0 downloads DiaryOfMine.esp-1.txt 93.05 kB · 2 downloads Blimey, my sympathies.
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: The second attachment is for @Antiope_Apollonia or any1 willing to proofread the 2000 lines of DoM's dialogues. Is there context for any of this? I've started working on it, but it's hard to know what to do with some of them without any clue as to how they're being used. 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Is there context for any of this? I've started working on it, but it's hard to know what to do with some of them without any clue as to how they're being used. I can write the topic name maybe. There. DiaryOfMine.esp-1.txt Edited August 19, 2022 by TrollAutokill 2
TrollAutokill Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Version 3.0.4 with correct capitalization of Mistress/Master. Also, - Burlap sack ownership set to player. Avoiding to have to steal your own bag when bagging a slave in a private area. - Petsuit and plugs detected at open/close inventory. Strait jacket gives same combat training as pet suit for now. - Poses and bondage praise only available after 2 hours (game time) without struggling - Broken mood timer into Inlove/Loyal chance. Broken/Loyal/Inlove chances are being tweaked right now, so expect some weird behaviour here. Otherwise same as 3.0.3. Edited August 19, 2022 by TrollAutokill 2
Antiope_Apollonia Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, TrollAutokill said: - Poses and bondage praise only available after 2 hours (game time) without struggling I think this is a step backwards. The pose training gameplay loop was in a pretty good spot in 2.12.2, but if you slow the praise reasons down that much, the gentle path is going to take an eternity. 1 minute ago, TrollAutokill said: - Broken mood timer into Inlove/Loyal chance. I don't understand this. What "timer"?
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