devious skyrim Unforgiving Devices

[kurotatsu]

There's mod 

which adds ability for followers to struggle out of the devices. Maybe you can use some of that code to teach them how to escape your devices, @ihatemykite?

[Arasu69]

after the upfate the mod gives me error saying i dont have console util when i do since i have other mods that need it

[BreadDain]

8 minutes ago, Arastal said:

after the upfate the mod gives me error saying i dont have console util when i do since i have other mods that need it

What game version do you have? LE 1.9.32, SE 1.5.97 or AE 1.6.323?
And also what version of ConsoleUtil do you have installed?

Edited April 26, 2022 by BreadDain

[Arasu69]

4 hours ago, BreadDain said:

What game version do you have? LE 1.9.32, SE 1.5.97 or AE 1.6.323?
And also what version of ConsoleUtil do you have installed?

se and i have the newst version of Se console util

[BreadDain]

2 hours ago, Arastal said:

se and i have the newst version of Se console util

If you are using old SE and newest Console Util that would be an issue since latest is meant for 1.6.323 SE, or an AE update how is it being called. The mod simply won't load there.

[Arasu69]

im using coonsoleutilsse 1.3.2 wich is the newst version of consoleutil for sse

[BreadDain]

6 hours ago, Arastal said:

im using coonsoleutilsse 1.3.2 wich is the newst version of consoleutil for sse

Verify your game version

[Clockwinding]

eating some black goo, i got a rare green binder, and it seems bugged. 

as you can see the message about device condition is being spammed.

 

Playing LE, UD 2.09b for him+brff for dd 5.1, Laura patch, DCL patch.

the UD MCM debug options don't work to fix this. Equipping and struggling/escaping a 2nd green binder doubled the message's frequency, so i assume something isn't terminating properly. Tried opening fallrim tools to see if the save has some rogue scripts/script instances from UD, apparently not.

[BreadDain]

1 hour ago, Clockwinding said:

eating some black goo, i got a rare green binder, and it seems bugged. 

as you can see the message about device condition is being spammed.

 

Playing LE, UD 2.09b for him+brff for dd 5.1, Laura patch, DCL patch.

the UD MCM debug options don't work to fix this. Equipping and struggling/escaping a 2nd green binder doubled the message's frequency, so i assume something isn't terminating properly. Tried opening fallrim tools to see if the save has some rogue scripts/script instances from UD, apparently not.

Was able to verify it, happens randomly and rarely.
I assume that this much multiplier just creates an enormous amount of "Durability decreases", but it is not endless after all, and healing speed somehow supplies the loop.

Edited April 27, 2022 by BreadDain

[Clockwinding]

3 hours ago, BreadDain said:

Was able to verify it, happens randomly and rarely.
I assume that this much multiplier just creates an enormous amount of "Durability decreases", but it is not endless after all, and healing speed somehow supplies the loop.

Wait, you're saying i have to wait out 99 billion notifivations? i'd rather try to reset my SkyUI, lol.

[BreadDain]

18 minutes ago, Clockwinding said:

Wait, you're saying i have to wait out 99 billion notifivations? i'd rather try to reset my SkyUI, lol.

that much multiplied on damage and divided by 100 (condition hp). I think I've found the issue and implemented a fix already, but it won't help with reoccuring messages if they already happen, you better kill one ud script responsible for that with Fallrim

[Clockwinding]

42 minutes ago, BreadDain said:

that much multiplied on damage and divided by 100 (condition hp). I think I've found the issue and implemented a fix already, but it won't help with reoccuring messages if they already happen, you better kill one ud script responsible for that with Fallrim

now to find the script needle in the 700+ instances haystack

[BreadDain]

1 hour ago, Clockwinding said:

now to find the script needle in the 700+ instances haystack

it's should be an active script with updateCondition() there

[Clockwinding]

14 hours ago, BreadDain said:

it's should be an active script with updateCondition() there

Found it, killing the script/terminating it solved the message spam. However it also killed all devices effects (no periodic vibrations anymore for anything, no sentient effect...) except random/orgasm manifest. 

 

edit: at this point i'm probably just going to wait for the mod's next version and make a new game ?

Edited April 28, 2022 by Clockwinding

[ihatemykite]

On 4/25/2022 at 7:38 PM, notwavman said:

There's mod 

which adds ability for followers to struggle out of the devices. Maybe you can use some of that code to teach them how to escape your devices, @ihatemykite?

You can already command NPCs to try to escape the device. If you mean like giving them AI so they can escape them on their own, that would be problematic. In comparison to DD, there are much more variables which needs to be considered. For example, there can be custom device which can be only escaped in non convenient way, like using the modifiers which were proposed by @SirCrazy. I can add something were simple for basic device types, but it is not currently my priority.

On 4/26/2022 at 1:27 PM, Arastal said:

after the upfate the mod gives me error saying i dont have console util when i do since i have other mods that need it

ConsoleUtil is not like other mods, because it doesn't have esp file. So even when you have other mods which needs, it doesn't mean that they are using it. Do you use some mod organizer?

[ihatemykite]

On 4/23/2022 at 3:27 PM, Clockwinding said:

Will you make a new version for DD beta 5? It's been out for close to a month now. Or are the changes fine with your beta 4 version?

 

edit: i was also wondering if you would adapt DD Contraptions (furniture) to use UD's mechanics.

Patch for beta 5 is already completed. But there are barely any changes in devices (if any, only think I found is DeviceHider, but that is not part of patcher, so it doesn't matter), so you should be ok with beta 4 version.

On 4/24/2022 at 9:48 PM, POLE7645 said:

Don't know what could be the cause, but would it be possible for the patch for Laura's Bondage Shop to deactivate some of the effects during it's quests? Or at least give the options in the debug tab?

 

Because I had some fetters tie themselves during the quests and it screwed some of the scripts (especially those when your character has to move somewhere). Not to mention that for some reason, I can't untie them (the bar stops at around 82% and wouldn't go up after that).

This is issue, which currently fixed. Will be part of next version. I can also add check so the device will not update when actor is in scene so this doesn't happen.

[PergidaSans]

Could you perhaps add a difficulty slider? The mod is a little too "unforgiving" for my taste. I just want to use this mod for it's escape mechanics because it's better than DD's default escape mechanics. Not for the difficulty itself.

[kurotatsu]

3 hours ago, PergidaSans said:

Could you perhaps add a difficulty slider? The mod is a little too "unforgiving" for my taste. I just want to use this mod for it's escape mechanics because it's better than DD's default escape mechanics. Not for the difficulty itself.

 

It uses DD difficulty settings and also has own difficulty set in the MCM. Be sure to go there and set those settings as you like!

[ihatemykite]

5 hours ago, PergidaSans said:

Could you perhaps add a difficulty slider? The mod is a little too "unforgiving" for my taste. I just want to use this mod for it's escape mechanics because it's better than DD's default escape mechanics. Not for the difficulty itself.

As @notwavman said. You can also change patcher modifier in Patcher tab. This will make patched devices much harder/easier to escape. Setting it to 50% make it extremely easy to escape.

[kurotatsu]

Installed 2.0b10, started new game, but no matter how many shocks or orgasms were applied along with gags - no drool or tears appeared. ZAP8 and Slavetats are installed and shown as present in the UD MCM Debug page. What else I can do to check and verify all prerequisites are there to see drool and tears?

[ihatemykite]

7 hours ago, notwavman said:

Installed 2.0b10, started new game, but no matter how many shocks or orgasms were applied along with gags - no drool or tears appeared. ZAP8 and Slavetats are installed and shown as present in the UD MCM Debug page. What else I can do to check and verify all prerequisites are there to see drool and tears?

It's possible you don't have enough free overlay slots for face. You have to edit one file from racemenu in SKSE\Plugins\nioverride.ini. There should be [Head] sections (or face, I don't remember). And there should be something like "Number of face slots". Try to increase this number. Basically, SlaveTats are trying to apply the overlay (tears, drool), but there is no free slot for them. If you have other mods which use overlay (like Blush When Aroused) then you may have reached the limit.

Edit: here is a tutorial for body overlays. You just need to do the exact same thing for Head/Face

Edited April 30, 2022 by ihatemykite

[flobalob]

1 hour ago, ihatemykite said:

It's possible you don't have enough free overlay slots for face. You have to edit one file from racemenu in SKSE\Plugins\nioverride.ini. There should be [Head] sections (or face, I don't remember). And there should be something like "Number of face slots". Try to increase this number. Basically, SlaveTats are trying to apply the overlay (tears, drool), but there is no free slot for them. If you have other mods which use overlay (like Blush When Aroused) then you may have reached the limit.

Edit: here is a tutorial for body overlays. You just need to do the exact same thing for Head/Face

I have been trying to get this to work too. Are you sure you don't need one of the addon packs for slavetats to get these effects?

[kurotatsu]

3 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

It's possible you don't have enough free overlay slots for face. You have to edit one file from racemenu in SKSE\Plugins\nioverride.ini. There should be [Head] sections (or face, I don't remember). And there should be something like "Number of face slots". Try to increase this number. Basically, SlaveTats are trying to apply the overlay (tears, drool), but there is no free slot for them. If you have other mods which use overlay (like Blush When Aroused) then you may have reached the limit.

Edit: here is a tutorial for body overlays. You just need to do the exact same thing for Head/Face

 

Yes, you were right!

 

Maybe add this to FAQ?

Q: I don't have drool or tears visible despite having all prerequisites installed and shown as present in the Debug MCM page.

A: Check SlaveTats MCM, Face page. If there are no slots for face present - go to your %Skyrim folder%/Data/Skse/Plugins/nioverride.ini and edit value bEnableFaceOverlays to 1, as its default is 0. After starting Skyrim next time you will be able to see face slots in the SlaveTats MCM and thus drool and tears could be applied.

 

Also, on another note - this new method you implemented is much, much more laggy... 2.0.b9 was a lot less laggy then 2.0b10.

[flobalob]

2 hours ago, notwavman said:

 

Yes, you were right!

 

Maybe add this to FAQ?

Q: I don't have drool or tears visible despite having all prerequisites installed and shown as present in the Debug MCM page.

A: Check SlaveTats MCM, Face page. If there are no slots for face present - go to your %Skyrim folder%/Data/Skse/Plugins/nioverride.ini and edit value bEnableFaceOverlays to 1, as its default is 0. After starting Skyrim next time you will be able to see face slots in the SlaveTats MCM and thus drool and tears could be applied.

 

Also, on another note - this new method you implemented is much, much more laggy... 2.0.b9 was a lot less laggy then 2.0b10.

Confirm this worked for me too. My trouble was exacerbated by the fact that my PC was wearing blindfold and restrictive collar covering up both the drool and the tears.

Changing the ink colour to a brighter white made it more noticeable.

[octanium]

On 4/5/2022 at 11:46 PM, 2generic said:

Every 2-5 minutes my character is having to do a forced animation (slapping her own ass or rubbing her chest - basically an arousal animation) which lasts for like 15 seconds. It's terribly annoying and gets me killed if it happens in combat. I don't know what's causing it. I have arousal from sexlab aroused Blocked, so it presumably can't be that mod. Is it this mod?

 

I think thats bug of Unforgiving Devices that triggers them that often. The animation and event itself is coming from DD.

 

Had the same problem. I started the game using the "Bound at Home" quest of "More Devious Starts" and freed myself of all the devious starting devices. Afterwards the orgasm bar was still stuck at 10% and didn't move. I managed to get my arousal to <10 but the bar stayed that way and the arousal animation did keep coming like every 3min. Then I did reset the orgasms vars using the Unforgiven MCM debug fixes and the bar went to 0% and the horny animation finally stopped occurring that much often.