toys Toys&Love LE & SE

[V June]

 

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Not intended, if its behaving as you describe consistently.

Could be another mod interaction/conflict.

First report if it.

 

Are you certain its a Toys&Love Spontaneous O? Previously we confused a sexlab scene with Toys&Love. Need to rule out any confusion.

• To confirm its a Toys&Love Scene, while the scene is running press ~ to open console. If its Toys&Love, you will see text that starts with [Toys] and tells you the name of the scene.
• Note that Toys also has the "Moving Spontaneous O". Happens while you are mobile (scene-less) or even during other scenes. This will make Rousing bounce all over the place. Need to rule out that it's not this (it wont print any text to console).

Assuming we are sure its regular Spontaneous O Scene, I don't think I will be able to recreate it without more info. In order to help me recreate it...

1. If you are doing this in the Dark Desires club like before, lets NOT do that and test what happens outside of the club.
2. Confirm SLA Sync is on, and that Rousing/Arousal is maxed.
3. Run the Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test. This triggers the same scene as Spon O. Do 3 times. Does it consistently recreate doing this?
4. What info are you using to "see" both the Rousing level and the Arousal Level? For Toys I'd assume you using the Rousing Bar to view it?
   • Grab a couple of screenshots to show what you are seeing if possible, showing the level down then up. Also the toys text message in console.
5. Set SLAL Sync OFF... then do #3 again (once is enough)... now what happens?
6. Version of SLA?
7. What mods are you running that contribute to SLAL arousal?
8. What other Toys Content mods are you running?

 

Currently i don't run any other Toys mods. The only mod responsible in my load order for arousal is SLA Version:  SexLabAroused Redux V28b SSE Modified by BakaFactory(2020 11 17)) i also use Sexlab seperate orgasm but im not sure if that changes arousal values directly when not in sexlab scene. To check the arousal for toys i check the rousing bar in game and the mcm at rousing&denial tab and for the arousal from SLA i press N and it will display current arousal level from SLA.

 

I just did a few tests in a indoor small cell with no other npcs i checked the console and i get the messages that a Toy&Love scene is playing when the spontaneous orgasm happens, during this the roused bar mentions some drops and rises during the stages of the scene untill depleting entirely at the end when orgasm occurs. Then immediately after when i get controll over my character again the bar bumps back to full or nearly full with SLA sync on displaying rousal is at 100 in mcm. I found when i press the key to display SLA arousal right at the end of the animation it will display a random Arousal level but still high, however after checking a second time  when everything is finished it says it is back at 100 again.

 

I have tried to take screens of the emptied bar with SLA sync on and capture both arousal level changes in toys and SLA at once but the bar fills so quickly this pic was the only one i could come close in capturing with the bar being not full and both arousal levels displayed. 5 seconds after i checked both arousals in SLA and toys and they were back at 100 so was the bar.

 

Have done the  Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test several times and results in the same thing as mentioned above when SLA sync is on. When i turn the sync off the roused stays low after scene only increases slightly if the character fondles right after.

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Edited June 4, 2022 by Victoria June

[VirginMarie]

51 minutes ago, Victoria June said:

 

 

Currently i don't run any other Toys mods. The only mod responsible in my load order for arousal is SLA Version:  SexLabAroused Redux V28b SSE Modified by BakaFactory(2020 11 17)) i also use Sexlab seperate orgasm but im not sure if that changes arousal values directly when not in sexlab scene. To check the arousal for toys i check the rousing bar in game and the mcm at rousing&denial tab and for the arousal from SLA i press N and it will display current arousal level from SLA.

 

I just did a few tests in a indoor small cell with no other npcs i checked the console and i get the messages that a Toy&Love scene is playing when the spontaneous orgasm happens, during this the roused bar mentions some drops and rises during the stages of the scene untill depleting entirely at the end when orgasm occurs. Then immediately after when i get controll over my character again the bar bumps back to full or nearly full with SLA sync on displaying rousal is at 100 in mcm. I found when i press the key to display SLA arousal right at the end of the animation it will display a random Arousal level but still high, however after checking a second time  when everything is finished it says it is back at 100 again.

 

I have tried to take screens of the emptied bar with SLA sync on and capture both arousal level changes in toys and SLA at once but the bar fills so quickly this pic was the only one i could come close in capturing with the bar being not full and both arousal levels displayed. 5 seconds after i checked both arousals in SLA and toys and they were back at 100 so was the bar.

 

Have done the  Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test several times and results in the same thing as mentioned above when SLA sync is on. When i turn the sync off the roused stays low after scene only increases slightly if the character fondles right after.

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Ok thanks for the good info and reporting it  We are probably looking at a mod conflict, but maybe I can work around it.

 

I will test with Dark Desires Club, and its requirements, and the baka version of SLA. I've been wanting to try out the latest DDC anyhow, used it lots but not recently.

 

May not be for a few days, but I do want to fix this, if there's something to fix, for next release, or if nothing to fix, at least find the mod conflict and document it.

[VirginMarie]

Orgies Teaser Video

 

You can also see the early upcoming change log....

 

 What's in the next Toy&Love Release?

 

 

[Jade514]

Hey so i am having a issue with the scenes played by this mod but it is mainly an issue because i have a darker nights mod and enb the issue is that i have Sexlab lightmeup but with the scence played by this it does not seem to work and so i was wondering if there was a way to get it to work with the scenes played by this or if there is a mod that adds lights to the scences since i can't see anything at night without the  virgin horns added by shout like a virgin but they are turned off when the scence start so any help you can give would be great thank you.

Also how do i turn of the effect that make my game fuzzy since that hurts my eyes.

Edited June 5, 2022 by WolfPack51942

[VirginMarie]

31 minutes ago, WolfPack51942 said:

 i have Sexlab lightmeup but with the scence played by this it does not seem to work and so i was wondering if there was a way to get it to work with the scenes played by this

 

You'd need to ask the author of Sexlab lightmeup to update that mod. Only way is for that mod to change. The author is active.

 

31 minutes ago, WolfPack51942 said:

or if there is a mod that adds lights to the scences since i can't see anything at night without the  virgin horns added by shout like a virgin but they are turned off when the scence start 

 

The SLaVE halo and horns don't turn off for me. They keep working. I tried it just now to be sure. There's a hotkey in SLaVE for turning it on/off. You sure it wont work?

 

I might in a future release want to add the feature built into Toys&Love, but hmmm... if the hola/horns don't work....

 

31 minutes ago, WolfPack51942 said:

Also how do i turn of the effect that make my game fuzzy since that hurts my eyes.

 

I don't know what you mean. By that description, I'd think its another mod.

Let's see a screenshot or describe it in more detail.

[Jade514]

will see about talking to the developer of sexlab Lightmeup later and i tried the SLaVE  horns for me and they don't seem to produce light doing the scenes from toys&love so i am unsure why that is but it might also be the brightness might not be noticable with my darker nights mod installed but i am unsure. and i am still testing the effect because i also just remembered i have survival mode so it may be that but i don't think it does a strange fuzzy/blurry affect but here is a screenshot of the effect.

[V June]

17 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Ok thanks for the good info and reporting it  We are probably looking at a mod conflict, but maybe I can work around it.

 

I will test with Dark Desires Club, and its requirements, and the baka version of SLA. I've been wanting to try out the latest DDC anyhow, used it lots but not recently.

 

May not be for a few days, but I do want to fix this, if there's something to fix, for next release, or if nothing to fix, at least find the mod conflict and document it.

Hey thanks alot for helping out so far. Wanted to update u on my situation

 

I updated papyrus extender to latest version and installed vanilla script enhancer and went ahead to try another new game with same mod load order apart from those 2 changes. This time the arousal from toys and SLA sync seems to work properly when a toys scene ends both arousals are now reset to 0 and dont climb back to 100 anymore.

 

Altough i might add i have not visited Dark desire club yet in this save, while in the previous save i went straight there to test Toys&Love etc. When i have some time i will go back there to test if it keeps working properly

Edited June 5, 2022 by Victoria June

[Talesien]

6 hours ago, WolfPack51942 said:

will see about talking to the developer of sexlab Lightmeup later and i tried the SLaVE  horns for me and they don't seem to produce light doing the scenes from toys&love so i am unsure why that is but it might also be the brightness might not be noticable with my darker nights mod installed but i am unsure. and i am still testing the effect because i also just remembered i have survival mode so it may be that but i don't think it does a strange fuzzy/blurry affect but here is a screenshot of the effect.

Some versions of SLA (or perhaps it's another SL Mod, not 100% sure) make your vision blurry at high arousal. Watch for a notification ala: "I've difficulty focusing."

You could also use "sisme 0" in the console to reset that blur effect, but of course it will eventually return, so it's not a real solution.

Edited June 5, 2022 by Talesien

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, WolfPack51942 said:

 strange fuzzy/blurry affect but here is a screenshot of the effect.

 

I can confirm, from your screenshot, that Toys&Love does nothing like this. Sounds like Talesien knows it.

 

3 hours ago, Victoria June said:

I updated papyrus extender to latest version and installed vanilla script enhancer and went ahead to try another new game with same mod load order apart from those 2 changes. This time the arousal from toys and SLA sync seems to work properly when a toys scene ends both arousals are now reset to 0 and dont climb back to 100 anymore.

 

Thanks for the update. This says there's no Sync with SLA issue. 

Now you are ruining my excuse to play with, errr, I mean test with, DDC  .

• Since Toys&Love does not use/require powerofthree's papyrus extender, it can't be the cause / difference
• Vanilla script enhancer imo is dangerous. But could lighten script load, if your problem is that you've overloaded your game. I doubt it made the difference though

The likely fix was merely the starting of a new game.

I would expect if you revert your 2 changes, and start a new game using exact same setup, you will get the same result/fix. If that's true then...

Root cause is more likely one of these...

• You had a corrupt save from breaking the Golden Rule
• Scripts were suspended, an overload, thus toys could not execute to sync <-- my bet is this one

My guess is that you had numerous other problems, maybe that had not revealed themselves to you yet. Toys Rousing was the canary in the mine cage.

In the DDC club, you have something like 40 NPCs thus its a heavily loaded cell with intense graphics processing. So more vulnerable.

So maybe you are running too much stuff!  

Edited June 5, 2022 by VirginMarie

[V June]

17 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

I can confirm, from your screenshot, that Toys&Love does nothing like this. Sounds like Talesien knows it.

 

 

Thanks for the update. This says there's no Sync with SLA issue. 

Now you are ruining my excuse to play with, errr, I mean test with, DDC  .

• Since Toys&Love does not use/require powerofthree's papyrus extender, it can't be the cause / difference
• Vanilla script enhancer imo is dangerous. But could lighten script load, if your problem is that you've overloaded your game. I doubt it made the difference though

The likely fix was merely the starting of a new game.

I would expect if you revert your 2 changes, and start a new game using exact same setup, you will get the same result/fix. I that's true then...

Root cause is more likely one of these...

• You had a corrupt save from breaking the Golden Rule
• Scripts were suspended, an overload, thus toys could not execute to sync <-- my bet is this one

My guess is that you had numerous other problems, maybe that had not revealed themselves to you yet. Toys Rousing was the canary in the mine cage.

In the DDC club, you have something like 40 NPCs thus its a heavily loaded cell with intense graphics processing. So more vulnerable.

So maybe you are running too much stuff!  

 

 

 

I'm running about 431 mods with 362 plugins and 160 esps, i think its safe to say heavily modded. I never add mods to existing saves when i try out a new mod its always on a fresh newgame save. One of the reasons i tried out vanilla script enhancer is In the past i have been suffering from script lag when starting animations in particular taking longer then they should and since installing this they seem to start alot quicker now

 

Have never tried any mod like ddc's scale so many stuff happening in a small area idd, so that could be pushing it over the edge i think aswel otherwise my loadorder was perfectly stable till i installed ddc and toys&love  

 

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Victoria June

[VirginMarie]

15 minutes ago, Victoria June said:

I'm running about 431 mods with 362 plugins and 160 esps, i think its safe to say heavily modded. I never add mods to existing saves when i try out a new mod its always on a fresh newgame save. One of the reasons i tried out vanilla script enhancer is In the past i have been suffering from script lag when starting animations in particular taking longer then they should and since installing this they seem to start alot quicker now

 

Have never tried any mod like ddc's scale so many stuff happening in a small area idd, so that could be pushing it over the edge i think aswel otherwise my loadorder was perfectly stable till i installed ddc and toys&love  

 

Sounds like you know what you are doing, and also know the problem .

Its not likely any one mod, but the combo of too many. You might be fine till you enter a heavy cell like DDC's club. I think we are both saying the same thing.

 

been suffering from script lag when starting animations - Is not unique to you or just from script lag. Happens not starting animations, its starting SL. Toys&Love does not have this problem.

 

SL has been too slow the day it ported to SE. This is because SE gives priority to graphics over scripts. If you measure it, on a decent gaming notebook, its literally 10x slower than it was in LE. All scripts, everywhere, in SE, 10X slower than LE, not just SL.

 

So our LE legacy frameworks got owned. The point of Toys&Love is to solve this. You will see that T&L Love Scenes start MUCH faster than SL ones.

 

Layering on stuff like vanilla script enhancer is band-aid. You probably have layered on numerous things on top of sexlab too making it worse. You are at breaking point.

[V June]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Sounds like you know what you are doing, and also know the problem .

Its not likely any one mod, but the combo of too many. You might be fine till you enter a heavy cell like DDC's club. I think we are both saying the same thing.

 

been suffering from script lag when starting animations - Is not unique to you or just from script lag. Happens not starting animations, its starting SL. Toys&Love does not have this problem.

 

SL has been too slow the day it ported to SE. This is because SE gives priority to graphics over scripts. If you measure it, on a decent gaming notebook, its literally 10x slower than it was in LE. All scripts, everywhere, in SE, 10X slower than LE, not just SL.

 

So our LE legacy frameworks got owned. The point of Toys&Love is to solve this. You will see that T&L Love Scenes start MUCH faster than SL ones.

 

Layering on stuff like vanilla script enhancer is band-aid. You probably have layered on numerous things on top of sexlab too making it worse. You are at breaking point.

Wouldn't say am a expert myself but i've tried spending many hrs trying fixing conflicts in load order and xedit i do my best . Anything else is far beyond my abilitys.

 

Will be more carefull at this point adding anything else to current load order  i might back it up and just start over. Toys&Love looks realy promising will experiment more in future with entire new load order and more toys mods , and i indeed noticed the scenes play out nearly instantly much more immersive compared to SL taking roughly 5-15 seconds in my game depending where i am at.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Victoria June said:

scenes play out nearly instantly much more immersive compared to SL taking roughly 5-15 seconds 

 

                 Immersive  =     

[BDNelson]

Well, damn, I'm sorry to say, it happened again. My girl, Blaze, tried to complete the "Erotic Asphyxiation" quest, you know, the 7000 steps, reading the plaques and worshiping the statues, all 11 of them. Again, statue #3 refuses to cooperate. After my PC reads the plaque, the statue doesn't see it, I guess. This has happened every time I attempt this quest.

 

Here's a couple of pics showing what happened... anybody else have this happen?

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, BDNelson said:

Well, damn, I'm sorry to say, it happened again. My girl, Blaze, tried to complete the "Erotic Asphyxiation" quest, you know, the 7000 steps, reading the plaques and worshiping the statues, all 11 of them. Again, statue #3 refuses to cooperate. After my PC reads the plaque, the statue doesn't see it, I guess. This has happened every time I attempt this quest.

 

Here's a couple of pics showing what happened... anybody else have this happen?

 

It's a mod conflict.  Good chance it's listed here...  Known Mod Conflicts - SLaVE. Item #3.

If it's not one of those two mods, it's another one.

 

Fortunately, this is a side quest, so not completing does not prevent progress for anything else.

[VirginMarie]

31 minutes ago, leesjig said:

 

I've seen a couple of these fuzzy, blurry vision comments.  You may have ed86's dripping when aroused in your load order and not realize its causing the blurry vision.

 

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Yeah I keep the blurry vision turned off myself.  There's also a heart beat, and breathing(panting) effect when pc gets to a certain arousal.

 

It might be pointless to run Dripping When Wet with Toys&Love, if you turn those features off and all you want is the dripping....

This is because Toys&Love does the squirting (dripping), including it does it in SL scenes too, if you even have SL. Thus Dripping When Wet would be duplication? I don't know this is me half asking.

[prometheusx]

dripping when aroused does also dripping outside of scenes when the arousal is high enough for the player and npc.

so you have an "immersive" way to see that an npc is aroused. I think T&L doesn't do this right now...

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, prometheusx said:

dripping when aroused does also dripping outside of scenes when the arousal is high enough for the player and npc.

so you have an "immersive" way to see that an npc is aroused. I think T&L doesn't do this right now...

 

Ya true and good to know.

 

For the player we have the Rousing Bar, and to squirt, you need to first have a spontaneous orgasm which has chance at high rousing.

 

IMO, you are not going to be dripping without first the orgasm, so if T&L were going to do it for NPCs, it would have them do a Spon O so you get the whole package. This is possible, except that we don't do Rousing on NPCs as that's the very thing that makes SLA script heavy and save bloating. You'd be amazed at how much smaller (and faster) your save file is without SLA.

Edited June 8, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Jade514]

Hey hope you don't mind me asking but i was wondering if you could please give me a list of the songs in the Toys LoreFitting LovePack music you did because i was hoping to make a playlist of them to lisen to when i am not playing skyrim if it is not to much trouble that is.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, WolfPack51942 said:

Hey hope you don't mind me asking but i was wondering if you could please give me a list of the songs in the Toys LoreFitting LovePack music you did because i was hoping to make a playlist of them to lisen to when i am not playing skyrim if it is not to much trouble that is.

 

I did a bad job of keeping the selections used when they staged into 2 music packs.

As you likely know there's 2 music packs and each have 19.

The text file attached has 50, so this means 12 did not make it into the packs. The rest did, but its for both packs. I don't have something more specific.

ToysMusicPackList.txt

 

You going to make a Music Pack and share it?   How to make your own Music Pack

[Pliny The Elder]

Writing a mod with a quest script that mostly uses ModEvents to work with various Sexlab dependent or framework neutral mods from Love scenes. Right now focusing on Sexlab Survival, Fill Her Up, Fertility Mode, and Skooma Whore. Toys stopped integrating with these mods when it ditched sexlab and became Toys & Love. I understand why it had to be done though. Basically, this mod will act as a bridge between Toys & Love and these older mods so that skooma whore drugging, Fertility Mode babymaking etc. will work with love scenes. Anyway, I was wondering what mods people actually want supported? There are some limitations here though. This bridge mod won't have any hard dependencies besides Toys, and perhaps some utility mods like StorageUtils or JContainers. Also, I won't mess with any mods that have dd as a hard dependency.

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, Pliny The Elder said:

Writing a mod with a quest script that mostly uses ModEvents to work with various Sexlab dependent or framework neutral mods from Love scenes. Right now focusing on Sexlab Survival, Fill Her Up, Fertility Mode, and Skooma Whore. Toys stopped integrating with these mods when it ditched sexlab and became Toys & Love. I understand why it had to be done though. Basically, this mod will act as a bridge between Toys & Love and these older mods so that skooma whore drugging, Fertility Mode babymaking etc. will work with love scenes. Anyway, I was wondering what mods people actually want supported? There are some limitations here though. This bridge mod won't have any hard dependencies besides Toys, and perhaps some utility mods like StorageUtils or JContainers. Also, I won't mess with any mods that have dd as a hard dependency.

 

This sounds great, but I'd like to better understand what you are doing and asking.

 

Toys stopped integrating with these mods when it ditched sexlab and became Toys & Love....

Since Toys&Love still has the same soft dep integration with SL & SLA, as it did before, nothing about the SL relationship changed. Toys itself never used SL for scenes at all. It only used SL for stripping and expressions. Same for the new Toys Family Content mods like Toy Story, Workshop, & HoT&Wet. They were doing custom scenes on their own. So what is your meaning?

 

What DID change is SLaVE. Half of SLaVE's scenes are custom, but the other half were using SL, and now they use Toys&Love for Love Scenes.

Thus...

Mods feeding off of SL ModEvents that were coming via SLaVE SL scenes, are not getting the SL modevents re. SLaVE anymore. I think this is the only change when it comes to SL modevents. So is this your meaning? Your mod will map Toys&Love Love Scene modevents into SL ones so the old mods still get fed? 

 

If I've got that right, only SLaVE will gain something lost, however Toy Story, Workshop, and any mod playing scenes using Toys&Love in the future would gain what they never had, benefiting the mods that need the mod events. So yes... a good and needed thing  

 

As for mods that people want... If SL Eagar NPCs feeds off of such modevents, and I'm understanding correctly, then I think it would be a widely wanted candidate. But not sure if it does. I think it might sit more on the other side of that fence as it plays plenty of SL scenes. I know it does not require DD.

 

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, Pliny The Elder said:

Writing a mod with a quest script that mostly uses ModEvents to work with various Sexlab dependent or framework neutral mods from Love scenes. Right now focusing on Sexlab Survival, Fill Her Up, Fertility Mode, and Skooma Whore. Toys stopped integrating with these mods when it ditched sexlab and became Toys & Love. I understand why it had to be done though. Basically, this mod will act as a bridge between Toys & Love and these older mods so that skooma whore drugging, Fertility Mode babymaking etc. will work with love scenes. Anyway, I was wondering what mods people actually want supported? There are some limitations here though. This bridge mod won't have any hard dependencies besides Toys, and perhaps some utility mods like StorageUtils or JContainers. Also, I won't mess with any mods that have dd as a hard dependency.

SLEN (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/7309-sexlab-eager-npcs-se-slen/ ) would be an obvious choice and I think it was recently mentioned/requested: Light me up (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8275-sexlab-lightmeup/ )

 

 

[Pliny The Elder]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

What DID change is SLaVE. Half of SLaVE's scenes are custom, but the other half were using SL, and now they use Toys&Love for Love Scenes.

I see, I remembered SLaVE using SL in the past and assumed the change was in the Toys Framework and not specific to SLaVE.

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 So is this your meaning? Your mod will map Toys&Love Love Scene modevents into SL ones so the old mods still get fed?

I haven't tried mapping Love Scene ModEvents to ones from Sexlab proper just yet but I'll see how it goes. Doing so might not work with everything, since some of these mod features don't rely solely on modevents and make calls to sexlab scripts. If it works with enough stuff, I'll put a toggle in for it. So far, I've mapped to some events from FHU and SLS. Handling the mods individually allows for better integration, since Toys&Love isn't a direct analog for sl or for sl + sla + slso + dd. I'd like to have simultaneous climax, oversexed level, etc. affect the likelihood of some events.

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

As for mods that people want... If SL Eagar NPCs feeds off of such modevents, and I'm understanding correctly, then I think it would be a widely wanted candidate. But not sure if it does. I think it might sit more on the other side of that fence as it plays plenty of SL scenes. I know it does not require DD.

Yeah, I'm  not sure about SLEN yet. Mostly it seems to play sl scenes or provides various means to impact SLA arousal or reset certain sexlab stats. Maybe there are some features I'm forgetting about.

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

SLEN (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/7309-sexlab-eager-npcs-se-slen/ ) would be an obvious choice and I think it was recently mentioned/requested: Light me up (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8275-sexlab-lightmeup/ )

LightMeUp is added to the list. Are there some particular features of SLEN you had in mind?

[VirginMarie]

59 minutes ago, Pliny The Elder said:

I see, I remembered SLaVE using SL in the past and assumed the change was in the Toys Framework and not specific to SLaVE.

 

Toys -> Toys&Love meant adding the ability to read SLAL packs, play love scenes, and take care of stripping, expressions, cum, sounds ect. Toys always had integration with SLA which became a sync. The only relationship with SL is that it adds squirting to the SL scenes, so you could deny them. That's still in place as a soft Dep. It uses some SL events, so SLaVE can pickup virginity loss for example. But none of this changed.

 

For SLaVE. the SL scenes switched to using T&L. The Custom scenes are still custom. Custom uses a whole bunch of API that support those, and that stayed the same. Modevents from Toys&Love cover the custom scenes. Its all cetralized, so one set of modevents cover all the mods using Toys&Love.

 

For Toy Story, some of its custom scenes became generic T&L Love scenes. It never used SL. Same deal with Workshop, but that one is mostly custom dance scenes.

 

For the mapping comment I made... I agree with you... not very mappable. There is not much cases of 1:1 feature parity. Toys&Love set out to be very different. So I think you have the right ideas here. Don't take it as me recommending the concept of mapping, I think that would be a fool errand.

 

Let me know if you need help figuring out anything. Dev stuff can be good in discord for live text chat if you want to join ours. But fine here too.