TWO - Total Werewolf Overhaul

[laiko]

I feel like im doing somthing wrong , when i do werewolf of female werewolf the anus open but not vagina but if i open the command meny the vagina opens when the menu is up, and when its female werewolf on human male none of them open. please any help?

[XarisZ]

How did u get nipple piercings on that screenshots with the 6breast option?

[Frosferes]

3 hours ago, laiko said:

I feel like im doing somthing wrong , when i do werewolf of female werewolf the anus open but not vagina but if i open the command meny the vagina opens when the menu is up, and when its female werewolf on human male none of them open. please any help?

 

Both anus and vag are working on my end. Sometime physics can look like they're not happening if you're looking at the wrong angle or the camera is obstructed, especially in free cam mode. I've not been able to figure out a consistent ruleset for it.

 

The human male on were not working might be because the human addon you're using doesn't have SMP collisions enabled on it.

 

30 minutes ago, XarisZ said:

How did u get nipple piercings on that screenshots with the 6breast option?

 

Features list in the mod description.

[Alatos1]

I have an issue where while playing as a male PC, turning into a werewolf gives the desired mesh and textures, but no genitals. I'm using the most recent version of the mod (4.1) along with SkyFurry, CF, and HCoS and the associated patch. I have the Werewolf Red mesh selected in Creature Features, and I re-registered mods in CF before transforming. I am using a custom patch to apply the combat-related changes from Manbeast, and does not make any other changes. I saw another comment in this thread with a similar issue, but I didn't see a response to it and would like to know if I could have some help troubleshooting this issue.

Modlist: https://modwat.ch/u/Alatos

[brutherman]

17 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

 

There are separate tabs for herm and urta werewolves in the CF MCM. You need to select either of the HCOS addons for herm werewolves for them to work. Also reregister CF as mentioned in the mod description.

I reregistered CF and It didn't fix my problem. The only thing overwriting the mod is the alternate textures and my bodyslide output. Since I'm having a hard time, how would I go about posting my load order?
 

[Frosferes]

7 hours ago, Alatos1 said:

I have an issue where while playing as a male PC, turning into a werewolf gives the desired mesh and textures, but no genitals.

 

How long did you wait after transforming to see if the genitals appear? It can take a concerningly long time for the CF to register the PC and apply genitals, especially the first time transforming. I would recommend testing by manually increasing your character's arousal level through the MCM. The CF tends to wake up a bit if a character is over 35 arousal. The other thing is to spawn a male werewolf NPC with AI detection disabled so it doesn't attack you. If it's still not working then I can only really recommend trying a minimal load order to see if there is some hidden conflict somewhere.

 

5 hours ago, brutherman said:

I reregistered CF and It didn't fix my problem. The only thing overwriting the mod is the alternate textures and my bodyslide output. Since I'm having a hard time, how would I go about posting my load order?
 

 

There is a button to backup your load order in MO2/Vortex. There should be a text file with the order in it in the profiles folder. You could also test the issue like how I described to Alatos1.

[brutherman]

1 hour ago, Frosferes said:

 

There is a button to backup your load order in MO2/Vortex. There should be a text file with the order in it in the profiles folder. You could also test the issue like how I described to Alatos1.

I made a new instance and installed this mod and the requirements and I think it worked. When I transformed I had to wait a bit and it appeared but it was already hard? Not sure if it is supposed to be like that but I'm making some progress.

[Frosferes]

37 minutes ago, brutherman said:

I made a new instance and installed this mod and the requirements and I think it worked. When I transformed I had to wait a bit and it appeared but it was already hard? Not sure if it is supposed to be like that but I'm making some progress.

 

That is your character's arousal level? The CF will apply the erect mesh to a character if they are above 35 arousal.

[brutherman]

15 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

That is your character's arousal level? The CF will apply the erect mesh to a character if they are above 35 arousal.

I finally fixed it. I forgot to install the TWO addon for werewolf revert effect. Thank you for your help and your patience.

[venomr]

Hey, does anyone know what lines need to be added to the cpbc master config file so that the breasts will rely on cbpc instead of smp physics?

 

My frame rate gets really low whenever a female werewolf is near so I wanted to see if changing her physics to cpbc would help things.

 

Okay  well I tried something and this seems to work for me.

 

#TWO werewolf nodes medit
R Breast00 P1=breast
R Breast00 P2=Breast
R Breast00 P3=Breast
L Breast00 P1=Breast
L Breast00 P2=Breast
L Breast00 P3=Breast

 

I'm using a 4 breast model but I assume it'd work for 6 breasts too.

 

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Edited November 29, 2022 by venomr

[Frosferes]

2 hours ago, venomr said:

Hey, does anyone know what lines need to be added to the cpbc master config file so that the breasts will rely on cbpc instead of smp physics?

 

Would you mind saying what specs your computer has? I knew the physics were going to be demanding in this mod but it's hard to compare benchmarks when I only have one machine. Also, have you tried updating smp? There's supposed to have been performance improvements recently.

 

You shouldn't add physics to the '00' breast bones as these are the 'base' bones for each breast. There are 18 physics bones for all of them:

 

R Breast01 P1 = Breast
R Breast01 P2 = Breast
R Breast01 P3 = Breast

R Breast02 P1 = Breast
R Breast02 P2 = Breast
R Breast02 P3 = Breast

R Breast03 P1 = Breast
R Breast03 P2 = Breast
R Breast03 P3 = Breast
L Breast01 P1 = Breast
L Breast01 P2 = Breast
L Breast01 P3 = Breast

L Breast02 P1 = Breast
L Breast02 P2 = Breast
L Breast02 P3 = Breast

L Breast03 P1 = Breast
L Breast03 P2 = Breast
L Breast03 P3 = Breast

 

Also the nodes are present regardless of if the model is built with upper / lower pairs or not so configs using these bones will work for any model.

 

Also those tits are really flying in the video, Huh? xD

[Alatos1]

On 11/28/2022 at 4:50 AM, Frosferes said:

How long did you wait after transforming to see if the genitals appear? It can take a concerningly long time for the CF to register the PC and apply genitals, especially the first time transforming. I would recommend testing by manually increasing your character's arousal level through the MCM. The CF tends to wake up a bit if a character is over 35 arousal. The other thing is to spawn a male werewolf NPC with AI detection disabled so it doesn't attack you. If it's still not working then I can only really recommend trying a minimal load order to see if there is some hidden conflict somewhere.

Hey, wanted to make sure you knew I read your message. I haven't had a bunch of time to test, but from what I can gather, the male WW will get their junk during animations, and then they will function normally in my full load order. PC Male WW does not get junk with my full load order under any circumstances, even during animations. Neither PC nor NPC male WW will get the genitalia without triggering an animation first.

I did a little testing with a minimalistic loadout, and I was able to get PC genitals during an animation once, so I think there's a conflict, but I don't have the time to suss it out. When I have more time, I'll isolate the offending mod and get back to you with a more detailed bug report. Thanks for this mod btw, it's amazing.

[venomr]

15 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

Would you mind saying what specs your computer has? I knew the physics were going to be demanding in this mod but it's hard to compare benchmarks when I only have one machine. Also, have you tried updating smp? There's supposed to have been performance improvements recently.

 

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Also those tits are really flying in the video, Huh? xD

 

I'm using windows 10. i7-4790k CPU @ 4.00 GHZ (8 cpus)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER

8011 MB vram

 

Runs skyrim on ultra settings, at 55-60 fps most of the time. ( I'd probably stay at 60 but I have a lot of mods clogging things up, like hundreds of roaming npcs)

 

Haha yeah, the bouncing is excessive but I'm not always playing skyrim for the realism.

 

Also I tried out your breast settings. Jelly boobs have been maximized and it doesn't reduce my FPS at all.

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Frosferes]

8 hours ago, venomr said:

I'm using windows 10. i7-4790k CPU @ 4.00 GHZ (8 cpus)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER

8011 MB vram

 

Your GPU should have no issues. The CPU might be a bit of a bottle neck though, and SMP physics does run off the CPU. The RAM might also play a part though. If you wouldn't mind, could I ask a favour? Don't do this unless you want to, I'm just curious about min spec requirements for TWO. Could you see what your CPU and RAM usage is like with a fem WW around when SMP is enabled and disabled?

 

8 hours ago, venomr said:

Also I tried out your breast settings. Jelly boobs have been maximized and it doesn't reduce my FPS at all.

 

You may want to tweak the physics setting in your main CBPC config. They look pretty wild.

[wollboi]

@Frosferes The Sinding mod is back up. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/33517

 

The author added a FOMOD that I think might not play well with TWO. I selected the choices I thought best and ended up with a human Sinding with a stretchy werewolf head (the same behavior that's seen a lot when another werewolf mod's mesh is overwriting TWO's). I didn't mess around with it much, but just a heads-up in case you wanted to look at it.

[Frosferes]

1 hour ago, wollboi said:

@Frosferes The Sinding mod is back up. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/33517

 

The author added a FOMOD that I think might not play well with TWO. I selected the choices I thought best and ended up with a human Sinding with a stretchy werewolf head (the same behavior that's seen a lot when another werewolf mod's mesh is overwriting TWO's). I didn't mess around with it much, but just a heads-up in case you wanted to look at it.

 

Cinna has a TWO patch for Sinding on the tweaks mod page. I haven't got around to testing many of those myself yet but I know the author and we've discussed mods quite extensively so I trust them to work.

[Frosferes]

23 hours ago, venomr said:

I'm using windows 10. i7-4790k CPU @ 4.00 GHZ (8 cpus)

 

Quick update actually. I was talking with some modder friends and they mentioned that FSMP should be installed with AVX support and NOT AVX-2 when using an Intel CPU or it will automatically throttle. Perhaps this is the source of the low framerates?

[herrzog]

I have an issue with the body.  In Bodyslide, the wolf body is full of holes, as seen below.

Spoiler

 

And in game, the shoulders bulge out of the sides of the model, as seen below (albino skin was selected),

Spoiler

 

I have gone back over my load order according to the install instructions, (removing Bakafactory's ABC mod and HDT werewolves in the process), and my current werewolf mod load includes Moonlight Tales and the alternative texture pack.  I have already disabled skins in Moonlight Tales as well as Creature Framework.  I can't think of anything else I can do to fix this, though I'm sure I have missed something obvious.

[brutherman]

22 minutes ago, herrzog said:

I have an issue with the body.  In Bodyslide, the wolf body is full of holes, as seen below.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

And in game, the shoulders bulge out of the sides of the model, as seen below (albino skin was selected),

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I have gone back over my load order according to the install instructions, (removing Bakafactory's ABC mod and HDT werewolves in the process), and my current werewolf mod load includes Moonlight Tales and the alternative texture pack.  I have already disabled skins in Moonlight Tales as well as Creature Framework.  I can't think of anything else I can do to fix this, though I'm sure I have missed something obvious.

Download the Moonlight MCM mod and make sure the skin option is disabled.

[sickzpack]

4 hours ago, herrzog said:

I have an issue with the body.  In Bodyslide, the wolf body is full of holes, as seen below.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

And in game, the shoulders bulge out of the sides of the model, as seen below (albino skin was selected),

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I have gone back over my load order according to the install instructions, (removing Bakafactory's ABC mod and HDT werewolves in the process), and my current werewolf mod load includes Moonlight Tales and the alternative texture pack.  I have already disabled skins in Moonlight Tales as well as Creature Framework.  I can't think of anything else I can do to fix this, though I'm sure I have missed something obvious.

Had the same problem, could not get this to work with moonlight tales. Dumped it and used Growl instead. Now working perfectly.

[Turokk777]

My werewolf has two heads? One inside the other

Edited December 2, 2022 by Turokk777

[Frosferes]

11 hours ago, Turokk777 said:

My werewolf has two heads? One inside the other

 

Please read the installation instructions

[Storms1]

Ok, I've fixed most of the issues I've encountered getting this set up, but there's one last problem standing in the way: genitals.  Males don't have a package during or out of animations, and I can't really see female genitalia either.  I disabled skins in CF and switched from MLT to Growl.  I downloaded the SOS plugin to prevent conflicts, so what is there left to do?  I saw in the description that you need to use CF and HCoS for the genitals, but how do you do that while keeping CF skins disabled to maintain fur textures?

 

Edit: Ok, fur textures are still working with CF's Red skin, and I do have genitals on my male PC, but not on any of the npc werewolves I've summoned to test.  There are female genitals, they were just hard to see

Edited December 2, 2022 by Storms1

[herrzog]

My next issue is the ear stretching off into the distance, as below.

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I have ensured that my version of FSMP is set for my version of SKSE and my processor (coffee lake, so AVX2). I piecemeal activated each werewolf mod, starting with Moonlight Tales, then Monster Facial Animations, then TWO.  The ear bug doesn't occur until TWO is activated.  All the TWO esp's are last in my load order, and set to override conflicting files.  Any idea's?

[Frosferes]

2 hours ago, Storms1 said:

Edit: Ok, fur textures are still working with CF's Red skin, and I do have genitals on my male PC, but not on any of the npc werewolves I've summoned to test.  There are female genitals, they were just hard to see

 

I've modified the CF addons to only apply genitals, similar to SOS. They shouldn't be disabled. Genitals can take a while to show up on newly spawned NPCs so leave it about 30 secs to a minute. You can also try messing with their sexlab arousal values to see if that give the CF a kick. The threshold for mesh swapping is 35 arousal. If it's still not working then specify what NPC werewolves you're spawning as well as your load order.

 

1 hour ago, herrzog said:

I have ensured that my version of FSMP is set for my version of SKSE and my processor (coffee lake, so AVX2). I piecemeal activated each werewolf mod, starting with Moonlight Tales, then Monster Facial Animations, then TWO.  The ear bug doesn't occur until TWO is activated.  All the TWO esp's are last in my load order, and set to override conflicting files.  Any idea's?

 

The only time i've seen this bug is when FSMP is missing or incompatible. Last I heard, AVX-2 throttles on Intel CPUs, so that may be a problem. What are your Skyrim, SKSE and FSMP versions?

 

I see in your screenshot you still have a quiver equipped. Are you using the TWO Extras module? I realise I may have missed unequipping ammunition in the transform script.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Frosferes