Rubber Facility [LE / SE]

Prime66 · April 17, 2023

1 hour ago, Hijken556 said:

Hey guys anyone knows about how to get Ooze in different stages? So far I can only get 2 Ooze armor (if that's the right name) in item cheat and pick it up, but there's no stages, just fullset. I just built differnt stages into different bodyshape in BS to make it more like a "Corruption Process".

If I remember correctly, at the moment only the Full Ooze outfit is currently playable in game. Don't think we made any wearable versions of the different stages yet.

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

on the 112 pages of this thread is the answer - several times

Das ist wahr aber man sollte nicht erwarten das Leute die ganze 112 seiten durchlesen. Macht glaube ich keiner ?

qalavix · April 17, 2023

First playthrough of this excellent mod!

A few suggestions:

A little food and drink scattered about, for those of us with needs mods.

Spoiler

At the beginning, one deals with the receptionist, then goes to a dwarven chest (that's what it looks like) in a changing room. If PC has a DD device on at this point (thank you, inconveniently-timed Devious Devices Helpers...), the chest gives a warning and everything stops, and never restarts. I am not sure if there was an escape from the mod possible at this point; I think there wasn't, but I'm not entirely sure (as my memory for video-game events is extremely poor - need more RAM, obviously...)

Suggest a 'doorbell' or wall-mounted button to 'try again', after removing your DD device(s). (if you can...)

Maybe the chest says "Remove all DD devices, then press the button to tell the guard you're ready" in the dialog, and the quest step triggers off the button instead of the chest.

Spoiler

The 2nd book for the Accident wasn't clearly written. The guy who wrote the book may have been a great explorer and Dwemer expert, but he wasn't a great author, and probably needed his secretary to edit his papers before he submitted them for University publication ?. In particular, the 'left' buttons mentioned had two choices which weren't obvious.

Suggest visually differentiating the two consoles; or rewriting the book instructions - possibly "Main Console" and "Chamber Access Control Consoles (Port-Side Auxiliary Consoles)" which sounds academically pompous enough.

Spoiler

During the Accident, the PC lights a fire under a boiler-looking thing and then needs to look up and a bit right to activate a valve. I didn't see the valve until after two playthroughs of the video (and quite a bit of in-game running around looking for SOMETHING ANYTHING to activate...)

Suggest either mounting the valve lower or making a better light up there. If you want to keep it 'hard', add several valves in that area and only the one works. It's impossible to balance a puzzle between too-easy and too-hard, I know...

Spoiler

When being transported through the Facility in the cage during the Accident, the PC ends up dropped into a well. There's no OBVIOUS way out of the well, and 3/4 of the well is not climbable ( a small segment is). Then (too quickly) a thing of bars covers the top of the well, and the room mostly-fills with liquid. If you don't get out of the well quickly enough, you drown. At least, I did once.

Suggest either stairs or ramp out of the well, no thing of bars at all (IMO easiest), or waiting to fill the room until the player is out of the well.

2nd run (save point was just before the gas):

Okay, being rude to Elewyn had... unexpected consequences!?

Spoiler

Then I got stuck in a cage, got one bit of nasty speech from Elewyn (it was great from a player POV but not so nice for the character...), an end-of-what-we've-written game message, and then... I'm slowly starving and dehydrating to death in a cage I can't seem to get out of, while Elewyn stands and watches me. Not fun.

And I can't load a save, so I have to quit the game and re-run it, which takes several minutes. Even less fun.

Edited April 17, 2023 by qalavix
more playthrough, more notes

Prime66 · April 17, 2023

Firstly thanks for the writeup

Really appriciate people taking the time to give well thought out feedback and suggestions.

40 minutes ago, qalavix said:

A little food and drink scattered about, for those of us with needs mods.

Will keep that in mind and will try and add a bit of food in appropriate places.

Suggestion for the DD Handling:

Spoiler

46 minutes ago, qalavix said:

At the beginning, one deals with the receptionist, then goes to a dwarven chest (that's what it looks like) in a changing room. If PC has a DD device on at this point (thank you, inconveniently-timed Devious Devices Helpers...), the chest gives a warning and everything stops, and never restarts. I am not sure if there was an escape from the mod possible at this point; I think there wasn't, but I'm not entirely sure (as my memory for video-game events is extremely poor - need more RAM, obviously...)

Suggest a 'doorbell' or wall-mounted button to 'try again', after removing your DD device(s). (if you can...)

Maybe the chest says "Remove all DD devices, then press the button to tell the guard you're ready" in the dialog, and the quest step triggers off the button instead of the chest.

I could have sworn I implemented it so that the player can still do the Quest even if that happens. Will check it again. ?

Suggestions for the Puzzle:

Spoiler

48 minutes ago, qalavix said:

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The 2nd book for the Accident wasn't clearly written. The guy who wrote the book may have been a great explorer and Dwemer expert, but he wasn't a great author, and probably needed his secretary to edit his papers before he submitted them for University publication ?. In particular, the 'left' buttons mentioned had two choices which weren't obvious.

Suggest visually differentiating the two consoles; or rewriting the book instructions - possibly "Main Console" and "Chamber Access Control Consoles (Port-Side Auxiliary Consoles)" which sounds academically pompous enough.

Reveal hidden contents

During the Accident, the PC lights a fire under a boiler-looking thing and then needs to look up and a bit right to activate a valve. I didn't see the valve until after two playthroughs of the video (and quite a bit of in-game running around looking for SOMETHING ANYTHING to activate...)

Suggest either mounting the valve lower or making a better light up there. If you want to keep it 'hard', add several valves in that area and only the one works. It's impossible to balance a puzzle between too-easy and too-hard, I know...

As you said it's incredibly hard to balance these things, and had reports from both sides people telling me that they did not have too much trouble and people who had a lot of trouble. Will discuss your suggestions for the manual with Racoonity, as for the other suggestion I am guessing you are using a mod that Changes lighting. Can't really account for that I am afraid, but placing a small light should be no problem.

56 minutes ago, qalavix said:

When being transported through the Facility in the cage during the Accident, the PC ends up dropped into a well. There's no OBVIOUS way out of the well, and 3/4 of the well is not climbable ( a small segment is). Then (too quickly) a thing of bars covers the top of the well, and the room mostly-fills with liquid. If you don't get out of the well quickly enough, you drown. At least, I did once.

Suggest either stairs or ramp out of the well, no thing of bars at all (IMO easiest), or waiting to fill the room until the player is out of the well.

Interesting, this has as far as I am aware never been an Issue. Are you using a mod that changes your Behaviour in water?

58 minutes ago, qalavix said:

Then I got stuck in a cage, got one bit of nasty speech from Elewyn (it was great from a player POV but not so nice for the character...), an end-of-what-we've-written game message, and then... I'm slowly starving and dehydrating to death in a cage I can't seem to get out of, while Elewyn stands and watches me. Not fun.

And I can't load a save, so I have to quit the game and re-run it, which takes several minutes. Even less fun.

That should not happen will keep that in mind for the new implementation of this branch

Can't you struggle out? Thought I made this possible.

Thank you again for the writeup really appriciate you taking the time to do it

Miauzi · April 17, 2023

Vor 2 Stunden sagte Prime66:

Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, ist derzeit nur das Full Ooze-Outfit im Spiel spielbar. Glauben Sie nicht, dass wir noch tragbare Versionen der verschiedenen Stufen erstellt haben.

Das ist wahr aber man sollte nicht erwarten das Leute die ganze 112 seiten durchlesen. Macht glaube ich keiner ?

Well - 112 pages is really not much - other mods have 300-500 pages and yes - it takes a while - but I, for example, take the time for it

because by reading these posts about 90% of my questions are answered.

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No - the gradual "putting on" of the slime suit ... ie the stages as they gradually cover the body (body slide preview) ... has not been implemented for a long time - I had never had that in my playthroughs

Miauzi · April 17, 2023

Vor 1 Stunde sagte Prime66:

Interessant, das war meines Wissens noch nie ein Thema. Benutzt du einen Mod, der dein Verhalten im Wasser verändert?

I had the same thing with the water basin - it was very difficult to get out of it...

..I thought that was what the mod authors intended.

no idea if that was due to the conversion to SE.

qalavix · April 17, 2023

1 hour ago, Prime66 said:

Firstly thanks for the writeup

Really appriciate people taking the time to give well thought out feedback and suggestions.

[...]

Thank you again for the writeup really appriciate you taking the time to do it

I am so glad you appreciate the feedback! I figure I can complain to myself, but if I want the best possible mods I should be doing my meager best to help improve them.

Also, no one can think of everything, so I throw out suggestions when I think of them, hoping that they'll spark something.

Sometimes you can brilliantly create 95% of something but your brain just skips over that last 5% ... and then, maybe sometime later you look at the thing and that last 5% falls into place and you go "Well DUH! Why didn't I DO that?! It['s so OBVIOUS!" Or is that just me and my creative things? ? Anyway, was hoping to trigger that last 5%. ?

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Suggestion for the DD Handling:

Reveal hidden contents

I could have sworn I implemented it so that the player can still do the Quest even if that happens. Will check it again. ?

It read, IIRC, like that was what was supposed to happen, but then Nothing Happened. =(

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Will discuss your suggestions for the manual with Racoonity

BTW I was NOT criticizing the mod-author of the manual, just the game-author. There can be (and probably should be) a difference...

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[...] I am guessing you are using a mod that Changes lighting. Can't really account for that I am afraid, but placing a small light should be no problem.

I don't have anything that changes lighting as far as I know; and I could see the darned thing when I LOOKED, but an extra light might make it more visible or noticeable.

BY THE WAY, thank you for making the puzzle area physically compact, so at least I didn't have to run for a minute (or *rolls eyes* go through loading screens) in each direction to try something or look for things.

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Interesting, this has as far as I am aware never been an Issue. Are you using a mod that changes your Behaviour in water?

Again, nothing I know of is changing my behavior in water. I only got trapped and drowned the one time (out of four or five at this point...) but then again, after the first drowning I got "right enthusiastic about getting outta the pool".

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That should not happen will keep that in mind for the new implementation of this branch

Can't you struggle out? Thought I made this possible.

I, uh, I didn't try struggling; I didn't know it was an option. *embarrassed* I'ma blame the Thalmor for that.... or the Stormcloaks...

Also, I found a typo - when talking to Elewyn at the end there, "therapy" is misspelled "theraphy".

If you can tell me how, I'd be happy to run through and proofread/correct the English text, as I have at least 80 Skill in proofreading. ?

Another suggestion: at least until the mod is 'finished', when the end-of-what-we've-written game-message pops up, make the staircase outside re-activate, so people can leave without having to TCL or fly. Not everyone has wings like me ya know! ? I console-unlocked the door to the receptionist and hit the button there, but it didn't do that last level of stairs.

Edited April 17, 2023 by qalavix

Prime66 · April 17, 2023

50 minutes ago, qalavix said:

Anyway, was hoping to trigger that last 5%. ?

Well can't tell you in Percent how much you triggered but you certanly gave me more Ideas to improve the mod.

54 minutes ago, qalavix said:

It read, IIRC, like that was what was supposed to happen, but then Nothing Happened. =(

I added that to my notes will test and fix this for the next version. Maybe make it more immersive (Not just a Teleport) if I got the time

54 minutes ago, qalavix said:

I don't have anything that changes lighting as far as I know; and I could see the darned thing when I LOOKED, but an extra light might make it more visible or noticeable.

BY THE WAY, thank you for making the puzzle area physically compact, so at least I didn't have to run for a minute (or *rolls eyes* go through loading screens) in each direction to try something or look for things.

Ok thanks that's good to know.

And yeah all Puzzles that we will make will be like that

57 minutes ago, qalavix said:

Again, nothing I know of is changing my behavior in water. I only got trapped and drowned the one time (out of four or five at this point...) but then again, after the first drowning I got "right enthusiastic about getting outta the pool".

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

I had the same thing with the water basin - it was very difficult to get out of it...

..I thought that was what the mod authors intended.

no idea if that was due to the conversion to SE.

Interesting. @qalavix are you also using SE? The Mod is being developed on LE and I never had a lot of trouble getting out of the pool.

Either way I got a few Ideas how to make that easier, thanks for the report. ?

1 hour ago, qalavix said:

Also, I found a typo - when talking to Elewyn at the end there, "therapy" is misspelled "theraphy".

If you can tell me how, I'd be happy to run through and proofread/correct the English text, as I have at least 80 Skill in proofreading. ?

Will fix that, thanks And thanks for the offer but any typos are more than likely the result of my dumbass trying to do writing or just an oversight. ?

Usually Racoonity does the writing and they are very good at it and also very good at finding my spelling mistakes ?

1 hour ago, qalavix said:

I console-unlocked the door to the receptionist and hit the button there, but it didn't do that last level of stairs.

So the button does not extend all Stairs?

Racoonity, Serah · April 17, 2023

1 hour ago, Prime66 said:

Will fix that, thanks And thanks for the offer but any typos are more than likely the result of my dumbass trying to do writing or just an oversight. ?

Usually Racoonity does the writing and they are very good at it and also very good at finding my spelling mistakes ?

Spoiler

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Racoonity, Serah · April 17, 2023

6 hours ago, qalavix said:

I am so glad you appreciate the feedback! I figure I can complain to myself, but if I want the best possible mods I should be doing my meager best to help improve them.

Also, no one can think of everything, so I throw out suggestions when I think of them, hoping that they'll spark something.

Sometimes you can brilliantly create 95% of something but your brain just skips over that last 5% ... and then, maybe sometime later you look at the thing and that last 5% falls into place and you go "Well DUH! Why didn't I DO that?! It['s so OBVIOUS!" Or is that just me and my creative things? ? Anyway, was hoping to trigger that last 5%. ?

It read, IIRC, like that was what was supposed to happen, but then Nothing Happened. =(

BTW I was NOT criticizing the mod-author of the manual, just the game-author. There can be (and probably should be) a difference...

I don't have anything that changes lighting as far as I know; and I could see the darned thing when I LOOKED, but an extra light might make it more visible or noticeable.

BY THE WAY, thank you for making the puzzle area physically compact, so at least I didn't have to run for a minute (or *rolls eyes* go through loading screens) in each direction to try something or look for things.

Again, nothing I know of is changing my behavior in water. I only got trapped and drowned the one time (out of four or five at this point...) but then again, after the first drowning I got "right enthusiastic about getting outta the pool".

I, uh, I didn't try struggling; I didn't know it was an option. *embarrassed* I'ma blame the Thalmor for that.... or the Stormcloaks...

Also, I found a typo - when talking to Elewyn at the end there, "therapy" is misspelled "theraphy".

If you can tell me how, I'd be happy to run through and proofread/correct the English text, as I have at least 80 Skill in proofreading. ?

Another suggestion: at least until the mod is 'finished', when the end-of-what-we've-written game-message pops up, make the staircase outside re-activate, so people can leave without having to TCL or fly. Not everyone has wings like me ya know! ? I console-unlocked the door to the receptionist and hit the button there, but it didn't do that last level of stairs.

Hi, quoting is acting weird today, so I'll answer like this. ?

A little food and drink scattered about, for those of us with needs mods.

I use needs too, so no prob, meals will be served and will be available at a possible "shop". We'd rather avoid to place food in random places, because we prefer having static items as decorations, rather than the huge physics mess Skyrim is . Also, I'd highly recommend to disable any "Death by starvation" you might have, because those WILL eventually cause issues and not just with our mod (talking from experience ?)

The DD chest-related start

Of course any mod adding random devices on the player from chests or random dialogues is going to be incompatible.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Racoonity, Serah

Racoonity, Serah · April 17, 2023

6 hours ago, qalavix said:

I am so glad you appreciate the feedback! I figure I can complain to myself, but if I want the best possible mods I should be doing my meager best to help improve them.

Also, no one can think of everything, so I throw out suggestions when I think of them, hoping that they'll spark something.

Sometimes you can brilliantly create 95% of something but your brain just skips over that last 5% ... and then, maybe sometime later you look at the thing and that last 5% falls into place and you go "Well DUH! Why didn't I DO that?! It['s so OBVIOUS!" Or is that just me and my creative things? ? Anyway, was hoping to trigger that last 5%. ?

It read, IIRC, like that was what was supposed to happen, but then Nothing Happened. =(

BTW I was NOT criticizing the mod-author of the manual, just the game-author. There can be (and probably should be) a difference...

I don't have anything that changes lighting as far as I know; and I could see the darned thing when I LOOKED, but an extra light might make it more visible or noticeable.

BY THE WAY, thank you for making the puzzle area physically compact, so at least I didn't have to run for a minute (or *rolls eyes* go through loading screens) in each direction to try something or look for things.

Again, nothing I know of is changing my behavior in water. I only got trapped and drowned the one time (out of four or five at this point...) but then again, after the first drowning I got "right enthusiastic about getting outta the pool".

I, uh, I didn't try struggling; I didn't know it was an option. *embarrassed* I'ma blame the Thalmor for that.... or the Stormcloaks...

Also, I found a typo - when talking to Elewyn at the end there, "therapy" is misspelled "theraphy".

If you can tell me how, I'd be happy to run through and proofread/correct the English text, as I have at least 80 Skill in proofreading. ?

Another suggestion: at least until the mod is 'finished', when the end-of-what-we've-written game-message pops up, make the staircase outside re-activate, so people can leave without having to TCL or fly. Not everyone has wings like me ya know! ? I console-unlocked the door to the receptionist and hit the button there, but it didn't do that last level of stairs.

I think I figured the ooze pool issue: it might have happened because while jumping to try and get out you might have triggered the event without managing to get out of the well.
When in water, try looking up before jumping, you'll notice you'll get a bit higher ( That's how I get to Windhelm's docks without passing through town, for example ?)
Anyways yeah, some stairs could be useful there.

qalavix · April 17, 2023

6 hours ago, Prime66 said:

Interesting. @qalavix are you also using SE? The Mod is being developed on LE and I never had a lot of trouble getting out of the pool.

Either way I got a few Ideas how to make that easier, thanks for the report. ?

I _AM_ using SE, yes.

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thanks for the offer but any typos are more than likely the result of my dumbass trying to do writing or just an oversight.

One never ever EVER catches ALL the typos and grammar mistakes.

Until shortly after you release it, when you look at the text and scream....

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So the button does not extend all Stairs?

When I tried to leave (wearing a coating of Ooze), the lowest segment (closest to the receptionist) did not raise. So I still had access to that weird little empty room under the stairs.

Also, I had to console-unlock the door too, so...

4 hours ago, Racoonity, Serah said:

We'd rather avoid to place food in random places, because we prefer having static items as decorations, rather than the huge physics mess Skyrim is .

Maybe a chest or other container near Ellen's desk with "refreshments" ? I'd have a small refrigerator in my office, if I had an office.

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Also, I'd highly recommend to disable any "Death by starvation" you might have, because those WILL eventually cause issues and not just with our mod (talking from experience ?)

Well, I can't say if I'd actually starve; I don't have the patience! ?

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The DD chest-related start

Of course any mod adding random devices on the player from chests or random dialogues is going to be incompatible.

*yells at follower* Did you read that?! *bashes follower's head against monitor* "INCOMPATIBLE"! *beats follower with staff* So quit locking me up in bondage gear or demanding sex in the middle of f***ing quests, you c***! Save it for when we're home!

Ahem. *slightly wild-eyed serene smile* Thank you, Raccoonity; the matter has been addressed. ?

1 hour ago, Racoonity, Serah said:

I think I figured the ooze pool issue: it might have happened because while jumping to try and get out you might have triggered the event without managing to get out of the well.
When in water, try looking up before jumping, you'll notice you'll get a bit higher ( That's how I get to Windhelm's docks without passing through town, for example ?)
Anyways yeah, some stairs could be useful there.

Possibly.

Oh, that's good to know...

I think stairs would. Or a ramp.

jc321 · April 18, 2023

For all the recent hype on this mod I thought I'd give this another playthrough but this time on Skyrim VR and have to say it has worked really well. Usually there's a pain barrier to go through tweaking bits here and there with VR specific configurations but this mod just worked 'straight out the box'. Character posing working well (albeit with the furniture disappearing but that's a known issue) AI enforced walking of player working reasonably well (with or without vractions mod) and the best part I'm noticing detail I never saw before (although that maybe because I was taking in much more of the atmosphere rather than speedy playthrough).

There's only one bit that's potentially game breaking at the moment (and also probably only seeing 50% of the content)

Spoiler

The point where you have pressed the buttons to restart the boiler but a dwemner sphere is ready to take you away. The first command of come here works, but when he asks you to come along the second time, the screen goes gray and your character is floating in mid air

but this could very well be my setup since I've played through that in LE before and worked fine.

So full props to the authors of this mod. Something I thought may run into numerous challenges in VR due to the complexity of this mod works surprisingly well.

Hans346 · April 18, 2023

How to fix it? I was started the new game, I was started in different places, I was started only with recommended mods, but always the same ... I don't know what to do with this.

Miauzi · April 18, 2023

1 minute ago, Hans346 said:

Wie man es repariert? Ich wurde das neue Spiel gestartet, ich wurde an verschiedenen Stellen gestartet, ich wurde nur mit empfohlenen Mods gestartet, aber immer das gleiche ... Ich weiß nicht, was ich damit anfangen soll.

I say -> bodyslide

Allen Harris · April 18, 2023

13 hours ago, jc321 said:

For all the recent hype on this mod I thought I'd give this another playthrough but this time on Skyrim VR and have to say it has worked really well. Usually there's a pain barrier to go through tweaking bits here and there with VR specific configurations but this mod just worked 'straight out the box'. Character posing working well (albeit with the furniture disappearing but that's a known issue) AI enforced walking of player working reasonably well (with or without vractions mod) and the best part I'm noticing detail I never saw before (although that maybe because I was taking in much more of the atmosphere rather than speedy playthrough).

There's only one bit that's potentially game breaking at the moment (and also probably only seeing 50% of the content)

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The point where you have pressed the buttons to restart the boiler but a dwemner sphere is ready to take you away. The first command of come here works, but when he asks you to come along the second time, the screen goes gray and your character is floating in mid air

but this could very well be my setup since I've played through that in LE before and worked fine.

So full props to the authors of this mod. Something I thought may run into numerous challenges in VR due to the complexity of this mod works surprisingly well.

It's your setup; I've run RF in VR many times without such a bug.

Lind L Tailor · April 20, 2023

On 4/18/2023 at 4:41 PM, Allen Harris said:

It's your setup; I've run RF in VR many times without such a bug.

Shit, would you be willing to share your VR modlist? I got a headset a few years back, but only yesterday did i think of buying the game so i kinda wanted to try and see if these kinds of mods worked lol

justanothercreeper · April 21, 2023

Well I reinstalled the mod (sans delta patch cause last time I did that the mod was totally borked) And all the textures, meshes, etc were all there but some of the clothing still clipped through characters bodies.

Miauzi · April 21, 2023

10 minutes ago, justanothercreeper said:

Nun, ich habe den Mod neu installiert (ohne Delta-Patch, weil das letzte Mal, als ich das gemacht habe, der Mod total kaputt war) Und alle Texturen, Maschen usw. waren alle da, aber einige der Kleidungsstücke schnitten immer noch durch die Körper der Charaktere.

What do the pictures and their text tell me about it... they have no idea what "Bodyslide" is used for or how to use it

The outfits of this mod have to be adapted to the body of your character used by you as a player (which is ultimately also the one used by the NPC).

Now comes a central problem - which many mod newbies do NOT focus on... there are two "fundamentally" different models for these bodies -> "cbbe" and "unp"
(both systems have various further developments such as "cbbe" -> "3BA")

The most used system is -> "cbbe" (around 90%)
However, our mod authors used the less common "unp" system for their mod.

So if, as a player, you let your main character run around with "cbbe" and also installed (and adjusted!!) the appropriate armor and clothing mods for it... you will fail with this mod... because it requires - > "unp"

Yes - somewhere in the depths of this thread you can find conversions of the rubber clothes on "cbbe" - a user made them for himself and made them available to us other users.
I used it myself... and apart from 1-2 small problems it works.

But they're still a long way from that... they still have a lot... a lot to learn.
But it's worth it - believe me... that's not wasting your lifetime... even if it can be frustrating at times... there's already help here in the forum... but nobody wants a beginner every single one Step to explain to the last detail!

Allen Harris · April 21, 2023

On 4/20/2023 at 3:41 PM, Joji vlogs said:

Shit, would you be willing to share your VR modlist? I got a headset a few years back, but only yesterday did i think of buying the game so i kinda wanted to try and see if these kinds of mods worked lol

I made a topic on how I install mods for my VR loadout. It seems to have some trouble wwith certain SexLab animations sometimes; but, as I recall, if you install that, the Ruber Facility requirements and Rubber Facility itself, it should work:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/204577-sexlab-and-devious-devices-vr-installation/

pappana · April 22, 2023

17 hours ago, Miauzi said:

What do the pictures and their text tell me about it... they have no idea what "Bodyslide" is used for or how to use it

The outfits of this mod have to be adapted to the body of your character used by you as a player (which is ultimately also the one used by the NPC).

Now comes a central problem - which many mod newbies do NOT focus on... there are two "fundamentally" different models for these bodies -> "cbbe" and "unp"
(both systems have various further developments such as "cbbe" -> "3BA")

The most used system is -> "cbbe" (around 90%)
However, our mod authors used the less common "unp" system for their mod.

So if, as a player, you let your main character run around with "cbbe" and also installed (and adjusted!!) the appropriate armor and clothing mods for it... you will fail with this mod... because it requires - > "unp"

Yes - somewhere in the depths of this thread you can find conversions of the rubber clothes on "cbbe" - a user made them for himself and made them available to us other users.
I used it myself... and apart from 1-2 small problems it works.

But they're still a long way from that... they still have a lot... a lot to learn.
But it's worth it - believe me... that's not wasting your lifetime... even if it can be frustrating at times... there's already help here in the forum... but nobody wants a beginner every single one Step to explain to the last detail!

Those cbbe conversions are only for SE so those of us who are on LE doesnt benefit much from it.

We either have to abandon CBBE or move to SE.

Personally none of those options are worth it for one mod but thats just me.

Though i couldnt get the gate open anyway so i cant play this mod regardless wich is a shame cause it looks great.

Hydragon · April 22, 2023

What stage of development is this mod in now? I've just been waiting for a new version for a couple of years and nothing

Edited April 22, 2023 by Hydragon

alexsl · April 22, 2023

It has been out 2 years ago and yes update are slow, but yet they are there. You can see that both Prime66 and Racoonity are very active in the thread troubleshooting the mod and taking sugestion in. Now Prime66 did mention having a very slow computer which doesn't help and sadly there nothing we can do about it. Either way I know that when it come out it will be greatly apreciated

SilentOption · April 22, 2023

I'm still playing on LE

AtomicGrimDark · April 22, 2023

3 hours ago, pappana said:

Those cbbe conversions are only for SE so those of us who are on LE doesnt benefit much from it.

We either have to abandon CBBE or move to SE.

Personally none of those options are worth it for one mod but thats just me.

Though i couldnt get the gate open anyway so i cant play this mod regardless wich is a shame cause it looks great.

Yup, CBBE SE body mesh ≠ CBBE LE body mesh

As for the work involved in converting: a lot of the suits used are from other sources and may have working or good enough CBBE LE conversions. That helps a lot. The rest is just a bit tedious to do.

Getting skintight transparent suits to not clip, without basing it directly on the target body - ie. grabbing the body mesh, scaling it up a bit and transforming the textures and normal maps - is painful at best.

If/when there's a new release for this mod, without "official" cbbe SE conversions included, I'll swing by and take a stab at it.

If anyone feels like fooling around for LE, one of the most useful guides i used specific to SE, that may likely at least partially applicable to LE was this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24153?tab=description (depending on what release of bodyslide and outfit studio you use) there's probably a lot more LE specific guides out there probably marked as outdated - that are totally useful for LE.

(As much as I couldn't be arsed to install blender to fuck about with the meshes, I can't be arsed to setup LE and figure out what combination of abandoned mods to use to get it looking and running nice.)

pappana · April 22, 2023

1 hour ago, agrdrk said:

Yup, CBBE SE body mesh ≠ CBBE LE body mesh

As for the work involved in converting: a lot of the suits used are from other sources and may have working or good enough CBBE LE conversions. That helps a lot. The rest is just a bit tedious to do.

Getting skintight transparent suits to not clip, without basing it directly on the target body - ie. grabbing the body mesh, scaling it up a bit and transforming the textures and normal maps - is painful at best.

If/when there's a new release for this mod, without "official" cbbe SE conversions included, I'll swing by and take a stab at it.

If anyone feels like fooling around for LE, one of the most useful guides i used specific to SE, that may likely at least partially applicable to LE was this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24153?tab=description (depending on what release of bodyslide and outfit studio you use) there's probably a lot more LE specific guides out there probably marked as outdated - that are totally useful for LE.

(As much as I couldn't be arsed to install blender to fuck about with the meshes, I can't be arsed to setup LE and figure out what combination of abandoned mods to use to get it looking and running nice.)

DD already have enough unique CBBE catsuits for every single female NPC in this mod twice over, i dont really feel like playing around with it adding one more only used by this mod.

But i wonder if its possible to mod the mod and replace the NPC body with CBBE and just add one of the DD catsuits onto them...

i might look into it... if only i could get the mod to run in the first place. That guard wont spawn the door so im stuck regardless.

Edited April 22, 2023 by pappana

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