Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

14 minutes ago, merManc said:

I assumed that SubLo's piercing system would require its own piercings, so I just disabled it.

 

I would quite like to give it a try though. Does it work with custom piercings? If not, could that be added as an option?

Being gifted the piercings (which is controlled by the MCM toggle) will only use one specific set of standard DD piercings.  (As you noted, it's easy to skip that part and just manually equip piercings that you want.)  However, any equipped piercings (or even plugs) that have the Lively or Very Lively DD keywords will enable this mod's various vibration events.  Much of what this mod does is driven by keywords.

Edited October 14, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[serph90]

Up until know I had the pony girl event, the elegance outfit event in solitude, and the gag as punishment. Are there many other scenarios where the master applies bondage gear on the player, would really love more bondage involved 🤩

(again, amazing mod)

[Hex Bolt]

7 minutes ago, theprof90 said:

Up until know I had the pony girl event, the elegance outfit event in solitude, and the gag as punishment. Are there many other scenarios where the master applies bondage gear on the player, would really love more bondage involved

There's a blindfold event, a rope harness, and an event with an inflatable plug, and piercings of course.  Some are partly random variations, like bondage shoes during sweeping, pony gear during the parade, or bound hands during vibration.  Outside of punishment, bondage is used for a specific event rather than just tying you up and leaving you that way for long periods, which would interfere with your ability to go adventuring and quite possibly hamper prostitution.  Even the hobble dress was controversial.  Some players love it, but others hated moving slowly in Solitude, so that event now has several choices for the devices to be equipped.  If you have ideas for fun ways to use bondage, I'm open to suggestions.

[serph90]

mmh I understand your position: not everyone likes to have their char restrained, and I see that one of the best things of this mod is that it doesn't punish you for trying to play "normal" skyrim while using it. Just had the pony gear event and loved it xD
to have my fill of restrictive bondage sessions I downloaded "binding", for now it seem to work really well in conjunction with submissive Lola.
Already said but I'll repeat it: amazing mod, I'm expecially enjoying the dialogues, thank you very much for your work

[Onedrift]

Heya Hex! Tossing this one here as they're both your projects so you'll have full under the hood insight: Just got the "Hey, you're lovesick, go offer yourself to X number of people to make more coin and humiliate yourself" No biggie, right? Except, everyone I talk to I get the "I've got the working girl's disease, Lovesickness" and the PC will refer to that random NPC as Mistress, following the dialogue tree for telling the Mistress NPC that the PC has lovesickness. Making the prostitution almost impossible to complete >.<

[Hex Bolt]

36 minutes ago, Onedrift said:

Tossing this one here as they're both your projects so you'll have full under the hood insight: Just got the "Hey, you're lovesick, go offer yourself to X number of people to make more coin and humiliate yourself" No biggie, right? Except, everyone I talk to I get the "I've got the working girl's disease, Lovesickness" and the PC will refer to that random NPC as Mistress, following the dialogue tree for telling the Mistress NPC that the PC has lovesickness. Making the prostitution almost impossible to complete

Okay, I see that I missed a filter on discussing love sickness with the owner during prostitution.  Thank you for reporting that.  It's an easy fix.  However, it shouldn't stop you.  Both that topic and "Hey, looking for a good time?" are top level, so neither blocks the other.  Depending on how many other things you might be able to say to an NPC, you might have to scroll through the choices, but both topics should be available to you.

 

Edit:  The filtering problem is fixed for the next update.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Also, I've increased the priority of "Hey, looking for a good time?", so it should move toward the top of the NPC topic list.

Edited October 16, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[Onedrift]

53 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Okay, I see that I missed a filter on discussing love sickness with the owner during prostitution.  Thank you for reporting that.  It's an easy fix.  However, it shouldn't stop you.  Both that topic and "Hey, looking for a good time?" are top level, so neither blocks the other.  Depending on how many other things you might be able to say to an NPC, you might have to scroll through the choices, but both topics should be available to you.

 

Edit:  The filtering problem is fixed for the next update.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Also, I've increased the priority of "Hey, looking for a good time?", so it should move toward the top of the NPC topic list.

Excellent, glad I was able to catch something to help! I'm also running Bimbos, but without the forced dialogue, so it may be playing merry hell with something. Or any of the other mods I'm running (I'm in no mood to strip down to just lovesick and lola tonight to do a proper test, I apologize).

[Hex Bolt]

46 minutes ago, Onedrift said:

I'm also running Bimbos, but without the forced dialogue, so it may be playing merry hell with something. Or any of the other mods I'm running (I'm in no mood to strip down to just lovesick and lola tonight to do a proper test, I apologize).

I don't use Bimbos of Skyrim, but it shouldn't have any adverse effect.  Setting aside the "I have the working girl's curse." topic, which shouldn't appear but actually doesn't hurt anything, I understood your problem to be that you can't solicit clients for prostitution.  You didn't say which form you're using (basic or Radiant Prostitution) but I had assumed that you meant basic.

 

For basic, NPCs will have the solicitation topic if you haven't solicited them recently (a few game hours) and they're not collared or marked as slaves.  No other mod can prevent "Hey, looking for a good time?" from appearing without using a blocking topic (which is pretty obvious, since it will be a single topic like you see with force greetings).  If you're using basic prostitution, I don't see why you'd have any trouble, other than just needing to scroll through a list of topics.

 

For RP, you do have to start the RP prostitution job with an innkeeper (or with the owner as your pimp).  Once you've started up the RP prostitution job, no other mod can block its solicitation topic (not without a blocking topic) and the love sickness status won't hide it.  RP does have its own similar solicitation cooldown.  Obviously, if you simply forgot to start the RP job this time, you won't be able to solicit.

 

So, I don't understand what you're saying is stopping you.

Edited October 16, 2024 by Hex Bolt

[kingsglaive]

I found that even if the playmate is set to (-2 very submissive), when the Master asks for a double dance, the playmate and Lola will not take off their clothes.

[Hex Bolt]

13 minutes ago, kingsglaive said:

I found that even if the playmate is set to (-2 very submissive), when the Master asks for a double dance, the playmate and Lola will not take off their clothes.

You must have a high enough score to volunteer to dance naked.  The playmate won't dance naked if you don't do it.

[Onedrift]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I don't use Bimbos of Skyrim, but it shouldn't have any adverse effect.  Setting aside the "I have the working girl's curse." topic, which shouldn't appear but actually doesn't hurt anything, I understood your problem to be that you can't solicit clients for prostitution.  You didn't say which form you're using (basic or Radiant Prostitution) but I had assumed that you meant basic.

 

For basic, NPCs will have the solicitation topic if you haven't solicited them recently (a few game hours) and they're not collared or marked as slaves.  No other mod can prevent "Hey, looking for a good time?" from appearing without using a blocking topic (which is pretty obvious, since it will be a single topic like you see with force greetings).  If you're using basic prostitution, I don't see why you'd have any trouble, other than just needing to scroll through a list of topics.

 

For RP, you do have to start the RP prostitution job with an innkeeper (or with the owner as your pimp).  Once you've started up the RP prostitution job, no other mod can block its solicitation topic (not without a blocking topic) and the love sickness status won't hide it.  RP does have its own similar solicitation cooldown.  Obviously, if you simply forgot to start the RP job this time, you won't be able to solicit.

 

So, I don't understand what you're saying is stopping you.

What's stopping me is my own misunderstanding of how RP works. So I'm going to take my ball and slink home in shame. Sorry to make this sound like a larger problem.

[kingsglaive]

6 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

你必须有足够高的分数才能自愿跳裸舞。如果你不跳，玩伴就不会跳裸舞。

Isn’t 70 points high enough?

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, Onedrift said:

What's stopping me is my own misunderstanding of how RP works. So I'm going to take my ball and slink home in shame. Sorry to make this sound like a larger problem.

Don't give up.  Since you have RP installed, there's just an extra step, but you'll have a better experience than what the basic version can provide.

- Owner starts the prostitution quest.

- Go talk to an innkeeper, ask about prostitution work, and start working as a prostitute (don't take the waitress job).

- RP's sex topics will now be available, so go complete your prostitution quota.

- Complete the job with the innkeeper.  Be sure not to skip this step.

- Complete the job with your owner.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, kingsglaive said:

Isn’t 70 points high enough?

Yes, it is.  I see that I made a mistake with the conditions for that option, which is weird because I remember seeing it work when I tested it.  I probably broke it when making another change later.  I will fix it.  Thank you for mentioning this.

[wren888]

Hi, Hex Bolt.

 

Submissive Lola: The Resubmission is my favorite mod quest. Consequently, I'd like to help embellish it if I can.

 

Specifically, I have a suggestion for an alternate way the player can start the Lola quest and become the slave Lola.

 

It begins at the conclusion of the Clavicus Vile quest, A Daedra's Best Friend. When it's finished, the player is standing before the Clavicus Vile and Barbus statue. To start the Lola quest, the player clicks on the statue again, which initiates dialogue with Vile. He says:

 

"I just realized I forgot something important. I sincerely apologize for my oversight. You so graciously freed my followers from vampirism, but I never thanked you properly. Therefore, generous daedra that I am, I will grant you a second boon. This is my last gift to you, so think hard and choose carefully. I will either

1.) grant you a devoted companion who will help you reach your full potential.

2.) fulfill a secret desire of yours that lies so deep inside you that even you have no idea it's there.

3.) send you on an exciting adventure few people get to experience.

So tell me. What's your heart's desire? What can a newly liberated daedra and his pup do for you?

 

Vile's answers to the three choices are all the same thing.

 

After the player makes her choice, a collar appears around her neck and she's teleported to a master she entered into the follower/master section of the Lola MSM.

 

Naturally, Hex Bolt, you know the master of Lola far better than I do, so if you use my idea, you will write better dialogue for him and Lola than I could. Still, there may be elements of the following you may like. This is how I envision the initial meeting of the player with her new master going:

 

Master: "What the-- Who are you?"

Player: "I'm (character name). Who are you?"

Master: "(master's name). What are you doing here?"

Player: "I don't know. I was standing in Clavicus Vile's temple before his statue, and he--"

Master: "Wait. Last night I sacrificed to my lord Clavicus. Just now I was praying to him, and you appeared. Are-- are you my new slave?

Player: 1.) "What?"

           2.) "I have no idea what you're talking about."

           3.) "Certainly not."

           4.) "Uhhh, maybe I am."

Master: [looks at player's collar] "Why you ARE my new slave! Oh joy! Unless Vile's tricking me. [Looks around] You're not hear to kill me, are you? Hold on a second." [Shocks player] "Your shock collar works!" [Shocks player again] "This is great! [Again] "This is so much fun! I don't know if Vile's going to do something horrible to me or not, but in the meantime, I'm going to enjoy my new slave. He he he he. Look, everybody! Clavicus Vile sent me a slave! It's exactly what I asked him for. Oh, how I've always wanted one." [Looks at player] "Damn, girl. You're a fox."

Player: I.) Apparently I'm the one who got tricked."

          2.) I'm no one's slave, and especially not yours!"

          3.) Clavicus Vile HAS tricked you. I AM here to kill you."

Every time the player attacks her master, assuming that happens, the player gets shocked. Until they leave the cell, that is. Then things revert to normal Master-Lola play. Master remains an essential NPC until he frees Lola. Then he becomes nonessential. That's the trick Clavicus plays on him. After Lola is no longer his slave, the player can kill him if she wants revenge. I figure Lola's decision then could go either way. Though she had enough willpower left at the end of her time of servitude to ask for freedom, she's probably still in a pretty subservient frame of mind.

 

To give the player a hint about her former master's new vulnerability after he frees her, he might say:

 

Former Master: "I feel different. Weak. And a little sick. Did you somehow do this to me, Lola? After all I've done for you, did you put a hex on me, you witch?!

 

But, you may point out, a contract time for Lola's slavery was never established. How long must she remain his slave?

 

Lola; "How long will I remain your slave?"

Master: "I believe I may know. Let me tell you what I prayed to Clavicus Vile just before you appeared: 'Oh please, Lord Vile, I've wanted a pet like the one I had when I was a boy ever since she died. Only now I want a pet slave like the one in the book, "Submissive Lola." Even if it's just for a month, I'd be eternally grateful. If you do that for me, I'll serve you faithfully for the rest of my life."

 

Now personally, I'd like the new master to be a vampire. Specifically, one who was fortunately away from Haemar's Shame when the player slaughtered all the other Clavicus-worshipping vampires during the Daedra's Best Friend quest. In my opinion, the chance of one vampire being elsewhere at the time would be as likely as not. I think this works especially well if the Lola kills her vampire master after she's released from his service. That way, Clavicus Vile would be answering the vampire-master's original desire to be cured of vampirism that he longed for along with all Vile's other vampire followers. Vile's just answering his wish a little late because the vampire-master was away from Haemar's Shame when the Dragonborn originally went there.

 

To be honest, Hex Bolt, my desire that the new master be a Clavicus vampire stems from my desire to enjoy your Lola mod with a vampire master. I suspect some others may feel the same way. The problem for me experiencing that is that I don't know of any vampires in Skyrim who can be followers, and therefore, Lola's master. Except for Serana. I believe that for many players besides me, she's not an acceptable choice as an evil mistress. Perhaps there are Volkihar vampires who can be followers if you choose the be-a-vampire option in the Dawnguard quest. I believe that for many players besides me, that choice is also not an acceptable one. If there's some other male Skyrim vampire who's a potential follower, problem solved. If not, one would have to be added. I understand if adding a vampire follower into your mod might be either undesirable from your standpoint, or unnecessarily troublesome, or impractical from a modding standpoint. As a last resort for my personal playthrough, if you adopt my addition to your mod, I would find a vampire follower on TESNexus, add him into the follower section of the Lola MSM before this new way of becoming Lola, delete all the other NPCs I have there, then add those back later. Inconvenient, but certainly easier than your adding a vampire NPC into your mod.

 

Changing the subject a bit, if you don't adopt my way of the player becoming Lola, or you don't want to add a vampire follower to your mod as Lola's new master, but you know of a potential male vampire follower in Skyrim LE apart from those I've mentioned above, I would appreciate your telling me who and where he is. I've searched the internet, and it appears to me there isn't one.

 

Thanks for your excellent mod, Hex Bolt. I also thoroughly enjoy your mods, Simple slavery and Love Sickness.

 

All the best to you.

 

[Hex Bolt]

35 minutes ago, wren888 said:

I'd like to help embellish it if I can.

Thanks, I appreciate new ideas.

 

31 minutes ago, wren888 said:

It begins at the conclusion of the Clavicus Vile quest, A Daedra's Best Friend. When it's finished, the player is standing before the Clavicus Vile and Barbus statue. To start the Lola quest, the player clicks on the statue again, which initiates dialogue with Vile.

Fun idea, but I'd want to expand it to include more than one "patron".  I recently finished A Night to Remember, and Sanguine is a jolly guy with a sense of humor.  I worked him into my own Lola story regarding the current owner.  I wouldn't limit it to Vile.

 

43 minutes ago, wren888 said:

Vile's answers to the three choices are all the same thing.

Yeah, I was laughing even before I reached this line.  I do like your wording for Vile's choices.

 

44 minutes ago, wren888 said:

This is how I envision the initial meeting of the player with her new master going:

That sounds fun, but it's too involved.  Remember that this would very likely be a one-time event per playthrough, and one that many players might not use, so the ratio of Use to Effort is not good.  I'm willing to spend a lot more time on repeatable events.  However, a simplified version is possible; players are free to write their own stories around it.

 

49 minutes ago, wren888 said:

Then he becomes nonessential. That's the trick Clavicus plays on him. After Lola is no longer his slave, the player can kill him if she wants revenge.

I do like your storytelling, but again, that would be up to players, but it might be possible to include some kind of exit dialog that foreshadows this.

 

57 minutes ago, wren888 said:

After Lola is no longer his slave, the player can kill him if she wants revenge.

That would be fun, especially as it ties so nicely into the details of your story.  I personally like tricking or betraying the owner afterwards into being sold into slavery as a nice turnabout.  But however one wants it to play out, that would be up to the player's imagination.  Regarding revenge, SLTR only works well if Lola is at least somewhat submissive, so for myself, I reserve revenge for inadequate masters, ones who are simply cruel, or not strong enough, or foolish -- they haven't earned Lola's respect.

 

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

To be honest, Hex Bolt, my desire that the new master be a Clavicus vampire stems from my desire to enjoy your Lola mod with a vampire master.

It does support that, but only minimally.  There are vampiric feedings.  Otherwise, I've just tried to avoid obvious inconsistencies.  Vampire owners won't demand a home cooked meal, though they are still fond of booze.

 

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

...or you don't want to add a vampire follower to your mod as Lola's new master, but you know of a potential male vampire follower in Skyrim LE apart from those I've mentioned above...

Adding followers would be outside the scope of SLTR.  I'm sure that I've seen female vampire followers for LE on Nexus (this one comes to mind).  You might ask on this site in the Search section, but I think you'd have better luck converting a male follower of your choice to a vampire.  I haven't researched it, but it could be as simple as adding a keyword, depending on what you want.  You wouldn't see fangs, but perhaps he has a very good glamour spell.  Or, change the NPC to a vampire race, though I don't know if that would affect the NPC's appearance; I haven't tried that.  All that SLTR does is to check the owner for the keyword Vampire [KYWD:000A82BB], which can be on the NPC or NPC's race.

[wren888]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Fun idea, but I'd want to expand it to include more than one "patron".  I recently finished A Night to Remember, and Sanguine is a jolly guy with a sense of humor.  I worked him into my own Lola story regarding the current owner.  I wouldn't limit it to Vile.

 

. . .

 

but I think you'd have better luck converting a male follower of your choice to a vampire.  I haven't researched it, but it could be as simple as adding a keyword, depending on what you want.  You wouldn't see fangs, but perhaps he has a very good glamour spell.  Or, change the NPC to a vampire race, though I don't know if that would affect the NPC's appearance; I haven't tried that.  All that SLTR does is to check the owner for the keyword Vampire [KYWD:000A82BB], which can be on the NPC or NPC's race.

Hex Bolt, you make a lot of good points, and I appreciate them all.

 

Yes, opening up alternate start possibilities to other daedric patrons would make sense. I would normally think Sanguine a good possibility. However, there's already an extensive mod involving him, which I'm confident you're aware of. At the least, I believe including him in SLTR would clash thematically with that mod for those who play both. Besides, there are other daedric possibilities. Let's give them a chance to show how malicious they can be.

 

I personally have been surprised that as far as I know, no modder on Lovers Lab has written a mod involving Molag Bal. Among his other titles, he is known as "King of Rape." I expect he would enjoy sullying the Dragonborn through slavery to a psychopath.

 

Another possibility is Ithelia, "whose existence was erased from the memory of all beings, including the other daedric princes. . . . she had the ability to alter fate and shape destiny to her liking."

 

Then there's Mephala. ". . . her sphere is sometimes claimed to be lies, sex, murder, and secrets . . . She enjoys seducing and interfering in mortal affairs, presumably for her own amusement."

 

(all quotations were taken from elderscrolls.fandom.com)

 

Perhaps other daedra would be interested in enslaving and corrupting the Dragonborn as well, but Clavicus Vile, Molag Bal, Ithelia, and Mephala seem like the best choices to me.

 

. . .

 

Thank you for the information on possibly changing a current Skyrim character to a vampire. That would be an optimal solution, in my opinion. I'll give it a try.

 

. . .

 

As you seem receptive to both my alternate-start-via-a-daedra suggestion and the "Anticipation" activity I offered previously, I'll continue to make suggestions for further additions, if you're interested. I have one in mind, but haven't fleshed it out yet. I'll try to limit the storytelling. There's a reason I sometimes get carried away. Let's just say it's an occupational hazard.

 

All the best to you.

Edited October 17, 2024 by wren888

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

Yes, opening up alternate start possibilities to other daedric patrons would make sense. I would normally think Sanguine a good possibility. However, there's already an extensive mod involving him, which I'm confident you're aware of. At the least, I believe including him in SLTR would clash thematically with that mod for those who play both.

Your earlier example had the player click on a statue to initiate a special enslavement.  If a player doesn't want that, then refrain from doing it (more likely, there'd be a popup to confirm your decision with the option to decline).  The same would apply to Sanguine or any other "patron".

 

Keep in mind that all of this is brainstorming now.  The idea is interesting but I'm not making promises.  Even a simplified form might be a lot of work.  I have other fun ideas, and if I work on one, I'm not working on the others.

 

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

I'll try to limit the storytelling.

Only because it's too much to implement storytelling in this mod.  However, the mod's events can provide a basis for the player's own stories, and I encourage players to write about their adventures.  The Take Notes mod is great for that, and if you save a copy before starting a new game, you'll have the stories of all your characters.

 

If you (or anyone) cares to post a story or scene related to this mod, feel free to do so here (inside a spoiler).

 

If you (or anyone) would be interested in writing short stories for books that could be placed in the world, those could find a place here, possibly as an eventual collection quest.  Bear in mind that Skyrim books are not long.  A favorite of mine is Chance's Folly, which seems to be a good length (1121 words, 6350 characters).  They could be "Lola" stories from the past (Lola lore seems to be pretty old) or submission or bondage themes. 

 

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

There's a reason I sometimes get carried away. Let's just say it's an occupational hazard.

Your writing seems good.  Writing books for this mod might be an outlet.

[Hex Bolt]

Just an example of "other ideas" on my list, I have one with the working title, "Just Business", an option that, if enabled, would have the owner train Lola to a certain score (configurable, might be random) then give her to a new master to fulfill an obligation.  It's just an immersive version of the switch owner feature, but it could offer an outlet if a player tires of the current owner or wants to be surprised after crossing a random threshold ("Aw, did you really love me, Lola?  You know I never felt that way about you.  This was just business.")

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Remember that this would very likely be a one-time event per playthrough, and one that many players might not use, so the ratio of Use to Effort is not good.

Yup. In more than 5000 hours of playing Skyrim, I've made that quest only twice. Once for the Oblivion Walker achievement, and another for the Deviously Vanilla outcome. Having a Clavicus Vile Lola Outcome would be a waste of time and effort.

 

3 hours ago, wren888 said:

Another possibility is Ithelia, "whose existence was erased from the memory of all beings, including the other daedric princes. .

...and not even present in the game, so one would have to write a Daedric Princess mod for this outcome.

 

 

Back to new events:

I just had the Sample the Merchandise and absolutely loved it. Great story writing!

[Hex Bolt]

9 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I just had the Sample the Merchandise and absolutely loved it. Great story writing!

Thanks!  I was happy with the way that event turned out.

[GusCrow]

7 hours ago, wren888 said:

Hi, Hex Bolt.

 

Submissive Lola: The Resubmission is my favorite mod quest. Consequently, I'd like to help embellish it if I can.

 

Specifically, I have a suggestion for an alternate way the player can start the Lola quest and become the slave Lola.

 

It begins at the conclusion of the Clavicus Vile quest, A Daedra's Best Friend. When it's finished, the player is standing before the Clavicus Vile and Barbus statue. To start the Lola quest, the player clicks on the statue again, which initiates dialogue with Vile. He says:

 

"I just realized I forgot something important. I sincerely apologize for my oversight. You so graciously freed my followers from vampirism, but I never thanked you properly. Therefore, generous daedra that I am, I will grant you a second boon. This is my last gift to you, so think hard and choose carefully. I will either

1.) grant you a devoted companion who will help you reach your full potential.

2.) fulfill a secret desire of yours that lies so deep inside you that even you have no idea it's there.

3.) send you on an exciting adventure few people get to experience.

So tell me. What's your heart's desire? What can a newly liberated daedra and his pup do for you?

 

Vile's answers to the three choices are all the same thing.

 

After the player makes her choice, a collar appears around her neck and she's teleported to a master she entered into the follower/master section of the Lola MSM.

 

Naturally, Hex Bolt, you know the master of Lola far better than I do, so if you use my idea, you will write better dialogue for him and Lola than I could. Still, there may be elements of the following you may like. This is how I envision the initial meeting of the player with her new master going:

 

Master: "What the-- Who are you?"

Player: "I'm (character name). Who are you?"

Master: "(master's name). What are you doing here?"

Player: "I don't know. I was standing in Clavicus Vile's temple before his statue, and he--"

Master: "Wait. Last night I sacrificed to my lord Clavicus. Just now I was praying to him, and you appeared. Are-- are you my new slave?

Player: 1.) "What?"

           2.) "I have no idea what you're talking about."

           3.) "Certainly not."

           4.) "Uhhh, maybe I am."

Master: [looks at player's collar] "Why you ARE my new slave! Oh joy! Unless Vile's tricking me. [Looks around] You're not hear to kill me, are you? Hold on a second." [Shocks player] "Your shock collar works!" [Shocks player again] "This is great! [Again] "This is so much fun! I don't know if Vile's going to do something horrible to me or not, but in the meantime, I'm going to enjoy my new slave. He he he he. Look, everybody! Clavicus Vile sent me a slave! It's exactly what I asked him for. Oh, how I've always wanted one." [Looks at player] "Damn, girl. You're a fox."

Player: I.) Apparently I'm the one who got tricked."

          2.) I'm no one's slave, and especially not yours!"

          3.) Clavicus Vile HAS tricked you. I AM here to kill you."

Every time the player attacks her master, assuming that happens, the player gets shocked. Until they leave the cell, that is. Then things revert to normal Master-Lola play. Master remains an essential NPC until he frees Lola. Then he becomes nonessential. That's the trick Clavicus plays on him. After Lola is no longer his slave, the player can kill him if she wants revenge. I figure Lola's decision then could go either way. Though she had enough willpower left at the end of her time of servitude to ask for freedom, she's probably still in a pretty subservient frame of mind.

 

To give the player a hint about her former master's new vulnerability after he frees her, he might say:

 

Former Master: "I feel different. Weak. And a little sick. Did you somehow do this to me, Lola? After all I've done for you, did you put a hex on me, you witch?!

 

But, you may point out, a contract time for Lola's slavery was never established. How long must she remain his slave?

 

Lola; "How long will I remain your slave?"

Master: "I believe I may know. Let me tell you what I prayed to Clavicus Vile just before you appeared: 'Oh please, Lord Vile, I've wanted a pet like the one I had when I was a boy ever since she died. Only now I want a pet slave like the one in the book, "Submissive Lola." Even if it's just for a month, I'd be eternally grateful. If you do that for me, I'll serve you faithfully for the rest of my life."

 

Now personally, I'd like the new master to be a vampire. Specifically, one who was fortunately away from Haemar's Shame when the player slaughtered all the other Clavicus-worshipping vampires during the Daedra's Best Friend quest. In my opinion, the chance of one vampire being elsewhere at the time would be as likely as not. I think this works especially well if the Lola kills her vampire master after she's released from his service. That way, Clavicus Vile would be answering the vampire-master's original desire to be cured of vampirism that he longed for along with all Vile's other vampire followers. Vile's just answering his wish a little late because the vampire-master was away from Haemar's Shame when the Dragonborn originally went there.

 

To be honest, Hex Bolt, my desire that the new master be a Clavicus vampire stems from my desire to enjoy your Lola mod with a vampire master. I suspect some others may feel the same way. The problem for me experiencing that is that I don't know of any vampires in Skyrim who can be followers, and therefore, Lola's master. Except for Serana. I believe that for many players besides me, she's not an acceptable choice as an evil mistress. Perhaps there are Volkihar vampires who can be followers if you choose the be-a-vampire option in the Dawnguard quest. I believe that for many players besides me, that choice is also not an acceptable one. If there's some other male Skyrim vampire who's a potential follower, problem solved. If not, one would have to be added. I understand if adding a vampire follower into your mod might be either undesirable from your standpoint, or unnecessarily troublesome, or impractical from a modding standpoint. As a last resort for my personal playthrough, if you adopt my addition to your mod, I would find a vampire follower on TESNexus, add him into the follower section of the Lola MSM before this new way of becoming Lola, delete all the other NPCs I have there, then add those back later. Inconvenient, but certainly easier than your adding a vampire NPC into your mod.

 

Changing the subject a bit, if you don't adopt my way of the player becoming Lola, or you don't want to add a vampire follower to your mod as Lola's new master, but you know of a potential male vampire follower in Skyrim LE apart from those I've mentioned above, I would appreciate your telling me who and where he is. I've searched the internet, and it appears to me there isn't one.

 

Thanks for your excellent mod, Hex Bolt. I also thoroughly enjoy your mods, Simple slavery and Love Sickness.

 

All the best to you.

 

This makes the mod too much specific. One of the best things about this mod in my opinion is that it has a lot of possibilities and you can start it with many different types of NPCs, anywhere, as many times as you want. It's not linear. Another bad point about this is voiced patches. Dialogue changes mess the nice patches that are already made.

Do you want a male vamp follower? Try Vimar on nexus. Also you can make any follower a vamp, you can edit it in XEdit adding vampire keyword and ActorTypeUndead keyword in the non player character tab, open it and go to keyword section, right click in front of it and add the keywords. In most cases you can even change the race, example, from Nord to NordVampire, without messing anything because most NPCs have their headparts configured to accept all human and vampire vanilla races. If not, go to headpart tab and change valid races in each part from HeadPartsHuman to HeadPartsHumansandVampires. Optionally, then you can download some vamp texture, example some red eyes and replace the eye texture file in your follower mod renaming the new file with the same name of the original, replacing it.
 

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Edited October 17, 2024 by GusCrow

[blahity]

3 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Just an example of "other ideas" on my list, I have one with the working title, "Just Business", an option that, if enabled, would have the owner train Lola to a certain score (configurable, might be random) then give her to a new master to fulfill an obligation.  It's just an immersive version of the switch owner feature, but it could offer an outlet if a player tires of the current owner or wants to be surprised after crossing a random threshold ("Aw, did you really love me, Lola?  You know I never felt that way about you.  This was just business.")

This sounds like a ton of fun! A female PC getting passed around to different friends for different styles of training, like a group of friends taking care of a pet

If you choose to try it out I hope there's a light-hearted consensual option.

[Talesien]

10 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Yup. In more than 5000 hours of playing Skyrim, I've made that quest only twice. Once for the Oblivion Walker achievement, and another for the Deviously Vanilla outcome. Having a Clavicus Vile Lola Outcome would be a waste of time and effort.

Not sure I agree, I kinda like the general idea. However, I do feel that the Daedric Princess get overused. Might be more interesting to actually design something around the Aedras, like Master wants to make a pilgrimage to honor all of them and of course Lola gets dragged along having to honor them in special ways. Might be more novel than the Nth Daedra event.

Edited October 17, 2024 by Talesien

[Herowynne]

For vampire followers on SE, I like Pandorable’s Dark Triumvirate https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31500

 

It has one male and two female vampire followers.