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On 6/24/2021 at 6:39 PM, Thingolf said:

Im having a problem when being raped, that sometimes two different animations seem to be applicable to the situation (as in I get a message in the top left corner that the game is playing `Arrok Rape` animation while also playing another animation) which seem to cause problems for the mod, since nothing happens afterwards. On other occasions the animations play correctly. Any idea what is going on? Should I change a mod load order, ot the one animation mod overwrite another?

Hey,... have the same situation. In my case found out that the Player Exhibitionist Mod, I play with, there was a nacked Rape Option enabeled.

 

Another Mod that not 100% compatible is TDF Aggressive Prostitution.

In that case, the follower from TDF Aggressive Prostitution doesn't calm down after defeat.

 

When play as a Succubus (with PSQ Player Succubus Quest Mod), after rape and the rapiest near Death or dieing Mod is hanging!

 

Nice Mod so far!!! Thanks

Posted
2 hours ago, Coco1111 said:

Hey,... have the same situation. In my case found out that the Player Exhibitionist Mod, I play with, there was a nacked Rape Option enabeled.

 

Another Mod that not 100% compatible is TDF Aggressive Prostitution.

In that case, the follower from TDF Aggressive Prostitution doesn't calm down after defeat.

 

these are problems form the respective mods. Most mods do not Respect DHLP suspend events and thus are incompatible. 
I tried making patches, but the DHLP suspend is such an annoying thing to implement in the different mods that I eventually just gave up. 

For the follower: hmm, strange. Might be a similar problem like with the guards that did not calm, so probably coming from their AI and not possible to fix from my side.

 

2 hours ago, Coco1111 said:

 

When play as a Succubus (with PSQ Player Succubus Quest Mod), after rape and the rapiest near Death or dieing Mod is hanging!

 

I might be able to fix this, but it has a low priority. there are checks for dead actors in place, but I dunno if the complexity of refining these checks is worth it. 

In general this would also only apply if there is a scenario where all aggressors are killed at the same time by the succubus. if not, the succubus should be killed by the remaining enemies at least from a certain point of view...

hmm. I see what I can do. but no promises :) 

 

 

2 hours ago, Coco1111 said:

Nice Mod so far!!! Thanks

 

glad you like it, thx alot for the feedback!

Posted (edited)

I m getting so tired of skyrim... everything basically sux. 
No mod is compatible with even ONE other mod that it is made for or based on. 
I feel like I fight against windmills to create an even half decent immersion, but this is eventually fucked up again and again just around the next corner. 

 

I also get tired of Sexlab, it is so limited and broken in its basics, I feel like I cannot reach any level of immersion without that changing fundamentally. 

Feels like the more I try to polish Naked Defeat the more I notice how broken everything else is, especially when I think about how to make as many other mods to be compatible as possible.

Yeah, its also a bit of a corona blues here, but I feel like the motivation to work on Skyrim has taken some very hard blows in the past days. Dunno, but I feel helpless since either mod authors do not listen to my feedback or I have no time to dive into making patches for other mods myself. 
This is just so utterly frustrating,... seeing all that stuff laying around shining like diamonds but as soon as you put it together it becomes the ugly mess of a modded skyrim. 

Edited by Nymra
Posted

@Nymra sorry to hear you're feeling down. I finally removed Defeat/DA from my load order and I'm excited to try Naked Defeat out as a replacement. Thanks for all your contributions and I hope you continue to make more!

Posted
1 hour ago, Nymra said:

I m getting so tired of skyrim... everything basically sux. 
No mod is compatible with even ONE other mod that it is made for or based on. 
I feel like I fight against windmills to create an even half decent immersion, but this is eventually fucked up again and again just around the next corner. 

 

I also get tired of Sexlab, it is so limited and broken in its basics, I feel like I cannot reach any level of immersion without that changing fundamentally. 

Feels like the more I try to polish Naked Defeat the more I notice how broken everything else is, especially when I think about how to make as many other mods to be compatible as possible.

Yeah, its also a bit of a corona blues here, but I feel like the motivation to work on Skyrim has taken some very hard blows in the past days. Dunno, but I feel helpless since either mod authors do not listen to my feedback or I have no time to dive into making patches for other mods myself. 
This is just so utterly frustrating,... seeing all that stuff laying around shining like diamonds but as soon as you put it together it becomes the ugly mess of a modded skyrim. 

its because u are working within the framework thats skyrim or in sexlab a framework built ontop of skyrim.., for defeat to work u hv to first create your own framework on how the health system works e.g. bleedout, health, magicka, stamina etc.. functions and other mods work with the framework u provide for the purpose of defeat.

 

there is nothing u can do about sexlab unless u decide and built something similar and incorporate slal into it... same with device devices its also another framework..

 

if u follow bakafactory he builts his mods off establish mods and try not to upset the delicate balance these mods provide, small steps, whereas creating a framework is pretty much a major step...

 

my 2 cents.

Posted

First I would like to say thank you for everything you've made so far. you've improved my Skyrim experience in so many ways using your mods and Naked Defeat has been one of my favorite mods to follow development on and play with. Even waited for beta 3.0 to start a playthrough of my recently curated mod list so far that I've probably put the most hours into out of my previous saves, With NADE being a good driving factor for that. 

 

I'd also like to +1 on the comment above me mentioning Baka, https://discord.gg/mVfQjTyA Here is his discord should be a good way to communicate with Baka and others who may share the same grievances. He also makes Defeated struggle animations that maybe you'd like to incorporate into NADE somehow. though NADE 3.0 is already great as is

Posted (edited)

so Im having an issue during the captivity event when it says "you are bound tight" my character stands up and I never get bound into furniture I just stand still and I have to use the command setstage nade_Captivequest 1000 to get unstuck, I've tried to fix it myself first by reloading an old save which didnt work then I started a new game which also didnt work then I reinstalled it which also hasn't worked and I have followed the debugging guide but it didnt help so I cant think of anything else I could and If you need any more info let me know oh and I am on LE

Load order:

 

Spoiler

0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     CreatureFramework.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     RaceCompatibility.esm
 12  c     RealShelter.esm
           ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 13  d     battlenymphs.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 16 10     Draenei.esm
 17 11     EFFCore.esm
 18 12     Heels Sound.esm
 19 13     High Poly Head.esm
 20 14     RidingStyles2.esm
 21 15     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 22 16     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 23 17     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 24 18     hdtHighHeel.esm
 25 19     increasedlootinchests1.0.esp
 26 1a     instantmining.esp
 27 1b     schwertleite set.esp
 28 1c     dhuntress.esp
 29 1d     spawners_improvedsmelting.esp
 30 1e     spawners_improvedtanning.esp
 31 1f     spawners_improvedweaponsmithing.esp
 32 20     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 33 21     ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
 34 22     RLO - Interiors.esp
 35 23     SD Cages.esp
 36 24     RealShelter.esp
 37 25     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 38 26     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 39 27     MilkModNEW.esp
 40 28     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 41 29     Weightless.esp
 42 2a     viceroyinquisitor.esp
 43 2b     USLEP unpatch.esp
 44 2c     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
 45 2d     SnoipehMoreCreatures.esp
 46 2e     ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
 47 2f     Sekirei.esp
 48 30     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 49 31     JapanLodge.esp
 50 32     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 51 33     windstadmine.esp
 52 34     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 53 35     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 54 36     Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
 55 37     Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
 56 38     Merta Assassin Armor.esp
 57 39     Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
 58 3a     AMatterOfTime.esp
           YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
 59 3b     Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
 60 3c     UIExtensions.esp
 61 3d     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 62 3e     HDT Havok Object.esp
 63 3f     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 64 40     EFFDialogue.esp
 65 41     elvenwood.esp
 66 42     Dorn Heven.esp
 67 43     HornyCreatures.esp
 68 44     Public Whore.esp
 69 45     METraining & Auctions.esp
 70 46     SexLab Beastess.esp
 71 47     SexyStartingOptions.esp
 72 48     Angelic Archon Armor Sets.esp
 73 49     Angelic_Demonic.esp
 74 4a     Apropos2.esp
 75 4b     DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
 76 4c     Sexy Maid 2.esp
 77 4d     BD UUNP Dawnguard armor and cloth replacer.esp
 78 4e     BD-UUNP Dragonborn armor clothes replacer.esp
 79 4f     BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp
           BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 80 50     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
 81 51     EstrusChaurus.esp
 82 52     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 83 53     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 84 54     Bijin Wives.esp
 85 55     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 86 56     ShowersInInns.esp
 87 57     BooksOfDibella.esp
 88 58     Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
 89 59     [COCO]Asuka Suit.esp
 90 5a     [COCO]PinupCheongsam.esp
 91 5b     [COCO]Succubus.esp
 92 5c     Celes Mercy Armor UNP LE.esp
 93 5d     Celes Rogue Armor UNP LE.esp
 94 5e     Celes Tarot Outfit Light UNP.esp
 95 5f     DX Necromancer Robes.esp
 96 60     DX Succubus Armor.esp
 97 61     DX Witcher Armor.esp
 98 62     DX Dark Knight Armor.esp
 99 63     FoxClub.esp
100 64     PonyTailClub.esp
101 65     SimpleSlavery.esp
102 66     HouseOfBurden.esp
103 67     Nakahara.esp
104 68     lakehouse.esp
105 69     Mannequins.esp
106 6a     SexLabWerewolves.esp
           SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp
107 6b     SLDragons.esp
108 6c     SexLab Approach.esp
109 6d     Darklilith.esp
110 6e     Drow Ranger.esp
111 6f     DX Druid Armor.esp
112 70     Ebony Valkyrie Armor.esp
113 71     Elegant Beauty Stunning Eyes Remastered.esp
114 72     ElementalArrows.esp
115 73     CharacterMakingExtender.esp
116 74     EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
117 75     HarvestOverhaul.esp
           EstrusTrappedEggs.esp
118 76     EstrusSpider.esp
119 77     zzEstrus.esp
120 78     Eyes of Aber.esp
121 79     SLALAnimObj.esp
122 7a     FEMALE.esp
123 7b     FNIS.esp
124 7c     FNISSexyMove.esp
125 7d     Facelight.esp
126 7e     12FemaleBrows.esp
127 7f     FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
           female mannequins in homes.esp
128 80     female mannequins.esp
           FleshFX.esp
129 81     FreckleMania2.esp
130 82     FrostmoonRings.esp
131 83     SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp
132 84     [NIND] CBBE Golden Angelic Armor Set LE Nexus.esp
133 85     Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
134 86     HAnimations.esp
135 87     HDT Capes.esp
136 88     Jugs.esp
137 89     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
138 8a     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
139 8b     KS Hairdo's.esp
140 8c     LewdMarks.esp
141 8d     LindsHumanEyes.esp
142 8e     LindsMerEyes.esp
143 8f     Dragon Lilly.esp
144 90     BanneredMareExtension.esp
145 91     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
146 92     submissivelola_est.esp
147 93     Club Riften.esp
148 94     TropicalIsland.esp
149 95     MountainsideLodge.esp
150 96     Bathing in Skyrim - Create Soaps.esp
151 97     Faallokaar.esp
152 98     Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
153 99     _GSPoses.esp
154 9a     Beastess Vampire.esp
155 9b     Bijin NPCs.esp
156 9c     Maria.esp
157 9d     Naked Defeat.esp
158 9e     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
159 9f     Dragon Souls To Attributes.esp
160 a0     EroSeleneArmor.esp
161 a1     Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
162 a2     MeridiaRevoiced.esp
163 a3     MikanEyes All in one.esp
164 a4     MilkModNEW HF.esp
           MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
           MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
165 a5     NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
166 a6     NIER 2B Set by Team TAL.esp
           dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
167 a7     PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
168 a8     PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
169 a9     PamaPrisonAlternative.esp
170 aa     Player Size Adjuster.esp
171 ab     PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
172 ac     R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp
173 ad     realcompanions_skyforge_bmb.esp
174 ae     RZ_ApocryphalAnimations.esp
175 af     RaceMenu.esp
176 b0     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
177 b1     RLO - Effects.esp
           RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
178 b2     [RyanReos] Battle Bunny Irelia.esp
179 b3     SGEyebrows.esp
180 b4     SexLabDefeat.esp
181 b5     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
182 b6     SLAnimLoader.esp
183 b7     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
184 b8     ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp
185 b9     SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp
186 ba     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
187 bb     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
188 bc     Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
189 bd     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
190 be     SexLabTools.esp
191 bf     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
192 c0     SexualPersuasion.esp
193 c1     [Shino]Onna Bugeisha.esp
194 c2     Sexy Lich King Armor.esp
195 c3     SkyUI.esp
196 c4     Necrosarium.esp
197 c5     SlaveTats.esp
198 c6     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
199 c7     SmartCast_1_0.esp
200 c8     Spartan Bard Outfit UNP LE.esp
201 c9     Stella Mithril Armor UNP LE.esp
202 ca     Succubus Queen Attire.esp
203 cb     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
204 cc     The Kitsune.esp
205 cd     TW3Eyes.esp
206 ce     [TheMilkDrinker] YoRHa 2B Attire.esp
207 cf     Tracer Skyrim.esp
208 d0     BHUNP3BBB.esp
209 d1     RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp
210 d2     Unique Uniques.esp
           Weightless Ores, Ingots, Firewood and Coal.esp
211 d3     DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp
212 d4     SOSRaceMenu.esp
213 d5     XPMSE.esp
           YOT - Moonlight Tales.esp
214 d6     RaceMenuMorphsCOCO.esp
215 d7     [Melodic] Zero Suit Samus.esp
216 d8     CrossDress.esp
217 d9     Zelda BOTW.esp
218 da     AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
219 db     Differently Ebony.esp
220 dc     noRadiantJE.esp
221 dd     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
222 de     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
223 df     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
224 e0     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
225 e1     ccas_starts.esp
226 e2     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
227 e3     RSPatch.esp

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited by Lunarwolf989
Posted
On 7/9/2021 at 7:40 AM, Lunarwolf989 said:

so Im having an issue during the captivity event when it says "you are bound tight" my character stands up and I never get bound into furniture I just stand still and I have to use the command setstage nade_Captivequest 1000 to get unstuck, I've tried to fix it myself first by reloading an old save which didnt work then I started a new game which also didnt work then I reinstalled it which also hasn't worked and I have followed the debugging guide but it didnt help so I cant think of anything else I could and If you need any more info let me know oh and I am on LE

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did you install ZAP Framework 8+ correctly?

 

Quote

[07/09/2021 - 12:24:51AM] ERROR: Cannot place a None object
stack:

    [ (00000014)].Actor.PlaceAtMe() - "<native>" Line ?
    [nade_CaptureQuest (9E172C7E)].nade_capturequest_qf_scr.CreateFurniture() - "nade_capturequest_qf_scr.psc" Line 461
    [nade_CaptureQuest (9E172C7E)].nade_capturequest_qf_scr.Fragment_2() - "nade_capturequest_qf_scr.psc" Line 177
[07/09/2021 - 12:24:51AM] NAKED DEFEAT: capturequest stage 1000
[07/09/2021 - 12:24:52AM] [SLP]         thisKeyword: [Keyword <_SLP_ParasiteSprigganGloves (3380ADA8)>]
[07/09/2021 - 12:24:57AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(bandit) -- TRUE -- HIT

 

might be your game cannot find the required furniture with usually comes from false or missing ZAP framework. 

Posted
17 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

did you install ZAP Framework 8+ correctly?

 

 

might be your game cannot find the required furniture with usually comes from false or missing ZAP framework. 

so I managed to fix it and it was ZAP Framework not being installed correctly thanks 

 

Posted (edited)

I'm trying some mod combinations, but I'm not sure if they arent working because I did something wrong or because I'm missing some configuration.

 

For starters, the idea is to get Defeat (Because I like some of it's player aggressor features) Submit (Because it has useful dialogues) Dragonborn in Distress (The trauma and addiction system is nice), and finally Naked Defeat for the actual surrender/defeat scenarios.

I'm aware they aren't supposed to be compatible, but in theory, each can be disabled in order to keep just the features one likes and choose 1 for each thing.

 

But I also added Debauchery and Simple Slavery, which in eavery description says they are supposed to integrate with defeat mods and with each other.

Now that's when things started failing.

 

Tried new game, and surrendering (via naked defeat) to some low level bandits.

It was working well but then a box message popped up "you've been sent to slavery" or something like that, except it didn't happen.

Next, there was a red message saying that it was time to run. And this happened every time, and neither SD nor SS ever triggered.

Am I missing some config thing, or game progress, is this how it's supposed to be?

Could this be an issue with SD or is it more related to ND?

Manually triggered Simple Slavery via MCM later and the auction worked, and so did a random destination after it.

The next problem was that apparently, my character was enslaved, but there was no real master (It triggered one of devious cidhna's quests, but even after completing it, SD sill considered my char enslaved to something that didn't seem to exist)

Edited by Dark Mirror
Posted

Sometimes when i get in a bound situation ,and get out of it.. I am not only immortal ,but everybody is suddenly "friendly" until i attack them ,and when they attack me i don't take any damage what so ever.. even jumping off a high cliff didn't damage me..

Posted
5 hours ago, Wolfram64 said:

Sometimes when i get in a bound situation ,and get out of it.. I am not only immortal ,but everybody is suddenly "friendly" until i attack them ,and when they attack me i don't take any damage what so ever.. even jumping off a high cliff didn't damage me..

 

On the download page for this mod, there is a debugging section.  I will paste it in below, in a spoiler tag.  Check this out as it could be what's causing the issue.

 

 

Spoiler

Helpful mods for Debugging:

 

Sexlab Disparity
Go to "debug" and look for a thing called "mutex". The mutex should be Locked (1) when Naked Defeat starts and OK (0) when it stops.

The mutex tracks dhlp suspend/resume events and "protects" scenes from other mods that start sex. 

So if you are bound to a furniture, civilian rape mods like Sexlab Adventures should NOT trigger. 

 

Skyrim Utiliry Mod (SUM) by inte
Go to MCM "Factions" tab. When Naked Defeat starts you should become member of the "Harmless Faction" (True) - appears at the bottom for me of the MCM page.

If Naked Defeat is over, you should no longer be in that faction.

Harmless Faction is friends with all and everything (except for the typical skyrim oddities and mods that I did not track yet) and prevents NPC from attacking you.

So if you are attacked while in Naked Defeat -> check SUM MCM for harmless faction

Also if Enemies dont attack you afterwards -> check SUM MCM for harmless faction

 

 

DEBUG: When you enter bleedout and the quest does not start (you just stand up again), I m sorry but you need to do this:
- load an earlier save (if its not too long ago) and check if its working there (best method. In modded Skyrim you are advised to save often in all cases).

 

OR follow these exact steps: 
1 - deactivate Naked Defeat in MCM/System
2 - save game A and exit
3 - uninstall Naked Defeat
4 - load the game A
5 - save game A and exit
6 - use save cleaner (ReSaver, Fallrim Tools, whatever) to clean the saved game A
7 - save the cleaned save A as a new save B
8 - reinstall Naked Defeat
9 - load save B 
10 - enable Defeat
11 - for me the first defeat was broken again, but then the quest started

 

some ppl suggest waiting for 48 hours or longer after uninstalling a mod (in step 4, before step 5), but I skipped it and it worked for me.

 

How to avoid such things:

if Naked Defeat shows unexpected behaviour, immediatly load an earlier save.

Things like this:

- no rape starts while clearly there are enemies in the area.

- mod starts twice (messages doubled, can happen when you surrender and THEN get into bleedout (working on it...)

- sex scenes start but look broken (actors missing etc.)

 

EDIT: I also wanted to experiment with removing Essentiality from PC while NADE is disabled and then see, but I had not time to test that. 

 

DEBUG: When whippers are stuck or dont show up
- wait 1 ingame hour (via hotkey) or press debug key to skip whipping

 

Posted
53 minutes ago, Marg597 said:

 

On the download page for this mod, there is a debugging section.  I will paste it in below, in a spoiler tag.  Check this out as it could be what's causing the issue.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Helpful mods for Debugging:

 

Sexlab Disparity
Go to "debug" and look for a thing called "mutex". The mutex should be Locked (1) when Naked Defeat starts and OK (0) when it stops.

The mutex tracks dhlp suspend/resume events and "protects" scenes from other mods that start sex. 

So if you are bound to a furniture, civilian rape mods like Sexlab Adventures should NOT trigger. 

 

Skyrim Utiliry Mod (SUM) by inte
Go to MCM "Factions" tab. When Naked Defeat starts you should become member of the "Harmless Faction" (True) - appears at the bottom for me of the MCM page.

If Naked Defeat is over, you should no longer be in that faction.

Harmless Faction is friends with all and everything (except for the typical skyrim oddities and mods that I did not track yet) and prevents NPC from attacking you.

So if you are attacked while in Naked Defeat -> check SUM MCM for harmless faction

Also if Enemies dont attack you afterwards -> check SUM MCM for harmless faction

 

 

DEBUG: When you enter bleedout and the quest does not start (you just stand up again), I m sorry but you need to do this:
- load an earlier save (if its not too long ago) and check if its working there (best method. In modded Skyrim you are advised to save often in all cases).

 

OR follow these exact steps: 
1 - deactivate Naked Defeat in MCM/System
2 - save game A and exit
3 - uninstall Naked Defeat
4 - load the game A
5 - save game A and exit
6 - use save cleaner (ReSaver, Fallrim Tools, whatever) to clean the saved game A
7 - save the cleaned save A as a new save B
8 - reinstall Naked Defeat
9 - load save B 
10 - enable Defeat
11 - for me the first defeat was broken again, but then the quest started

 

some ppl suggest waiting for 48 hours or longer after uninstalling a mod (in step 4, before step 5), but I skipped it and it worked for me.

 

How to avoid such things:

if Naked Defeat shows unexpected behaviour, immediatly load an earlier save.

Things like this:

- no rape starts while clearly there are enemies in the area.

- mod starts twice (messages doubled, can happen when you surrender and THEN get into bleedout (working on it...)

- sex scenes start but look broken (actors missing etc.)

 

EDIT: I also wanted to experiment with removing Essentiality from PC while NADE is disabled and then see, but I had not time to test that. 

 

DEBUG: When whippers are stuck or dont show up
- wait 1 ingame hour (via hotkey) or press debug key to skip whipping

 

Got it running by deactivating ,save ,disable in startup ,save again.. clean the new save and then enable in startup again... Also did some changes in the start order ,haven't had any problem since.. So i think it is solved.. exept the camera ,when i'm put on a device... Not a big issue though..

Posted
23 hours ago, Wolfram64 said:

Sometimes when i get in a bound situation ,and get out of it.. I am not only immortal ,but everybody is suddenly "friendly" until i attack them ,and when they attack me i don't take any damage what so ever.. even jumping off a high cliff didn't damage me..

 

Sometimes the toggle godmode flag that the mod enables stays on if ND fires and gets interrupted by another mod maybe?

Not sure cuz it has only happened a couple of times. Go to console and use the tgm command to remove invulnerability,

If no one is attacking, try tcai - toggle combat AI and make sure it is enabled.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Wolfram64 said:

Have read alot about this "ZAP Framework" i haven't been able to dig up any info on what that may be ,or where to get it...

Regarding god mode..i have never used that command... i either put on a ton of health.. or i make myseslf essential... and none of those can make me not loose health at all. Am researching as i go along ,and find that there are certain mods (that's not in the list) that can interfere with the mod... I'll figure it out :)

 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Wolfram64 said:

Have read alot about this "ZAP Framework" i haven't been able to dig up any info on what that may be ,or where to get it...

That would be ZaZ Animation Pack v8.0 plus

There had been a ninth version in progress, but that thread is gone. I'd guess that it moved to tara's patreon.

Posted (edited)

Excellent mod, Sound very promising,

I really love how this mod manage DD comptability and Handcuff animation

 

Also i have to uninstall for now, the fact the PC absolutly never die (even when not in combat) is not what i'm looking for

i'll keep an eye on this

 

Edited by kurioboy
After some digging in this topic, this mod don't interrest me anymore (Too much breaking realism atm)
Posted
10 hours ago, kurioboy said:


After some digging in this topic, this mod don't interrest me anymore (Too much breaking realism atm)

 

? realism he said... 

Posted
6 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

Yup, any problem with that?

 

 

ofc. last time I checked this was loverslab porngame hub :P
 

Well, you know, I appreciate feedback, but such a broadside that gives no detail or is in any way constructive... and then brings funny keywords like realism, no thx :)

Posted

Porngame hub uh?

 

i liked ND, especially the lock/handcuff management that SLDefeat lack sadly.

But the fact that your mod just totally suppress death, even fall damage death totally break immersion into the Lore i'm trying to produce on my playthought

That's why i get back to SLDefeat.

 

If in the future you add a simple MCM option like "Chance to die after hit 0hp (and ignore what this mod does)" Customisable from 0 to 100% for full access to user preference

I'll surely gladly re-install ND.

 

Very cool mod tho, Very simple to use, with the "vanilla death" option it would be perfect to my use.

 

I just mistaken your mod as a newer and better SLDefeat, but without the vanilla death, i'll keep the old one

 

As you said, Your mod is just for porngame

 

Not for me, i'm not looking into just jerk off a porngame with the skin of skyrim

 

I'm looking for transforming skyrim into a more Immersive,Harder game,Darker rpg world,way more adult where i can play some whole playthough, As playing beautifull&young Female PC only. I obviously wanted a rape chance if i loose against bandit..etc

 

TLDR : I tried your mod, was very good but not for my immersive goal so i uninstalled, don't be that mad for that please (and keep up your good work) ❤️

 

ps : I kinda finally achieved the perfect skyrim i was looking for, if someone interrested, PM me

Posted
41 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

Porngame hub uh?

 

i liked ND, especially the lock/handcuff management that SLDefeat lack sadly.

But the fact that your mod just totally suppress death, even fall damage death totally break immersion into the Lore i'm trying to produce on my playthought

That's why i get back to SLDefeat.

 

If in the future you add a simple MCM option like "Chance to die after hit 0hp (and ignore what this mod does)" Customisable from 0 to 100% for full access to user preference

I'll surely gladly re-install ND.

 

this is a feature planned for next version. 

I also want to add enemy detection to prevent the fall down thing.

In future versions I want to also implement exectution scenarios, so you can still die even when you surrender. 

 

41 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

 

Very cool mod tho, Very simple to use, with the "vanilla death" option it would be perfect to my use.

 

see, this is the kind of feedback I like. 

I see if I can also add an option to die when not defeated instead of getting back up. 
 

41 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

I just mistaken your mod as a newer and better SLDefeat, but without the vanilla death, i'll keep the old one

 

Defeat is the common term for beeing defeated in combat and not die but beeing raped. Hence the description. I honestly never really considered the other features of Defeat.

 

41 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

As you said, Your mod is just for porngame

Not for me, i'm not looking into just jerk off a porngame with the skin of skyrim

 

so is Sexlab Defeat :)

 

41 minutes ago, kurioboy said:

 

I'm looking for transforming skyrim into a more Immersive,Harder game,Darker rpg world,way more adult where i can play some whole playthough, As playing beautifull&young Female PC only. I obviously wanted a rape chance if i loose against bandit..etc

 

TLDR : I tried your mod, was very good but not for my immersive goal so i uninstalled, don't be that mad for that please (and keep up your good work) ❤️

 

see, immersion is a totally different word than realism :P
I also dont care if ppl like my mod or not (or use it or not), its just about how feedback is given. 

and of course I try to consider all constructive feedback given, because alot of options make mods good and useable in the first place.

 

 

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