[mod] Carnalitas - Unified Sex Mod Framework for CK3

[Ronnie21093]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but since there doesn't seem to be a unified bug/crash report thread...

My game is crashing, and I'm not sure why. I was able to open the game and play as my latest family yesterday, but now I can't today. I haven't changed my mod setup or load order, and there hasn't been any CK3 updates since yesterday, so I'm not sure what would cause the change. Here is a copy of (what I believe is) the crash log. I wanna continue my playthrough because I have unified Scotland, so ay help would be appreciated.

Crash Log.rar

[JustCurious10]

It would be great if you could port Tentacled Dreams to CK3.

[dragon13]

can a female make love with another female, or does that still need to be added?

[Siudhne]

On 12/29/2020 at 6:14 AM, Untolddead said:

Lesbian and gay flags should be added to the sex scenes.

The genders of your participating characters already tell you if a scene is homosexual or not. Not sure we need extra flags for that. Maybe once we have threesome/x-some sex scene support it'd be interesting to have though.

9 hours ago, dragon13 said:

can a female make love with another female, or does that still need to be added?

So they can.

[Untolddead]

19 hours ago, Siudhne said:

The genders of your participating characters already tell you if a scene is homosexual or not. Not sure we need extra flags for that. Maybe once we have threesome/x-some sex scene support it'd be interesting to have though.

So does the check happen automatically when requesting a sex scene? I see a check in the trigger on the sex scene so I guess that's how it's dealt with.

[Siudhne]

26 minutes ago, Untolddead said:

So does the check happen automatically when requesting a sex scene? I see a check in the trigger on the sex scene so I guess that's how it's dealt with.

Exactly, the checks in the trigger on the sex scene do that. You could check if the characters have the correct gender here, you can add that your sex scene has a specific flag, or you could require that the characters are of a certain faith or have at least 500 gold.

[Cheri Song]

On 12/27/2020 at 11:29 PM, Strec said:

 Is it possible to restrict traits to sexs? I start my game with all daughters having the trait "well-endowed", my ass fear to marry them ?

This happens if you give yourself the well-endowed trait in ruler designer but forget to turn the "Body Part Traits" game rule on.

 

On 12/29/2020 at 1:14 PM, Untolddead said:

Lesbian and gay flags should be added to the sex scenes.

There's no need because you can check the genders of the sex participants in the sex event.

 

On 12/30/2020 at 10:36 AM, Ronnie21093 said:

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but since there doesn't seem to be a unified bug/crash report thread...

My game is crashing, and I'm not sure why. I was able to open the game and play as my latest family yesterday, but now I can't today. I haven't changed my mod setup or load order, and there hasn't been any CK3 updates since yesterday, so I'm not sure what would cause the change. Here is a copy of (what I believe is) the crash log. I wanna continue my playthrough because I have unified Scotland, so ay help would be appreciated.

The crash is probably due to whatever mod is using the LIL prefix. I looked in the error.log file and there are just pages and pages of errors caused by that mod.

 

On 12/30/2020 at 6:16 PM, JustCurious10 said:

It would be great if you could port Tentacled Dreams to CK3.

It's a huge amount of work, which is why Tentacled Dreams for CK3 isn't out yet.

[sabreA]

how can i have a same sex spouse? 

 

besides having great on your mods

[Cheri Song]

8 minutes ago, sabreA said:

how can i have a same sex spouse?

CK3 currently does not allow same-sex marriage, this is a game engine limitation and we can't do anything about it unless we directly modify the game executable.

[Strec]

Historically it's understandeable but as soon as the game is moddable and support overhauls it's not acceptable.

 

There are some hard-coded rules like this that blocks some features and it seems the devs (since CK1) don't want to unlock them and remain only concentrated on the "historical" thing.

 

I think that the "best" stupidity is the fact that you can't raid over the seas, perhaps if everyone send the devs a book on vikings they may open eyes 

[eloquentmydear]

Just checking, all rape options can be turned off while still having consensual options on, right?

[Ronnie21093]

7 hours ago, Cheri Song said:

The crash is probably due to whatever mod is using the LIL prefix. I looked in the error.log file and there are just pages and pages of errors caused by that mod.

That is weird, considering I was perfectly able to run Crusader Kings 3 the day before this crash started happening. The only mods I have installed that aren't Carnatilas submods are Harem Doctrines, World of Sexcraft and Far Eastern Cultures for CK3.

[AlphaLyxis]

6 hours ago, Strec said:

I think that the "best" stupidity is the fact that you can't raid over the seas, perhaps if everyone send the devs a book on vikings they may open eyes 

You can raid overseas - if you're a Viking. Other cultures can't.

[Ronnie21093]

1 hour ago, irontooth23456 said:

You can raid overseas - if you're a Viking. Other cultures can't.

Weren't Vikings SUPER OP in the earliest starting date? I haven't played that date in ages, but are they still OP?

[Zorlond]

20 minutes ago, Ronnie21093 said:

Weren't Vikings SUPER OP in the earliest starting date? I haven't played that date in ages, but are they still OP?

Still mega-annoying, certainly. Show up, hang around for a month, leave. If your soldiers are busy, no way to stop them.

 

By the by, has anyone figured out how to limit births to a particular gender yet? A patch ago, there was a note about adding a pregnancy_gender effect, but I can't find any mod that uses it, and no clues on the wiki either.

[numanumani]

35 minutes ago, Zorlond said:

Still mega-annoying, certainly. Show up, hang around for a month, leave. If your soldiers are busy, no way to stop them.

 

By the by, has anyone figured out how to limit births to a particular gender yet? A patch ago, there was a note about adding a pregnancy_gender effect, but I can't find any mod that uses it, and no clues on the wiki either.

Not really, but the patch notes say "set_pregnancy_gender" on an unborn child, so should be possible to test.

Added set_pregnancy_gender effect to overwrite the gender of an unborn child.

[Dagulus]

On 1/3/2021 at 11:33 AM, Cheri Song said:

The crash is probably due to whatever mod is using the LIL prefix. I looked in the error.log file and there are just pages and pages of errors caused by that mod.

Debauchery in Crusader Kings

 

[Strec]

When we enslave a captured child it's gardian is not removed so we can't give it another, for exampe to change religion and/or culture.

 

I suggest to have any guardian or ward of a capture to be removed at enslavement. 

[Cheri Song]

1 hour ago, Strec said:

I suggest to have any guardian or ward of a capture to be removed at enslavement. 

Thanks for the bug report, will work on it!

[Strec]

I'm currently modding based on Carnalitas but I don't master some things ?

 

If I duplicate the trait "slave" with the same datas as your's but the flag "can_not_be_granted_titles" is there a risk of hidden problems? Mainly, will the code of "Carnalitas" (placed before me in the order list) use my trait definition or yours?

 

The idea is to permit some special slaves to have some abilities like owning temples/cities without any rights on claims or inheritance, but with courtiers, spouses and concubines. The objective is to transform some location in brothels, breeding grounds, ...

 

If it's too risky I'll have to create a "broken/devoted slave" trait but it's more complicated because I'll have to duplicate some of your interactions (sell,free,...) and it won't be useable directly by other modders.

 

edit: half solved the problem founding how to force myself a title to my slave, beeing able to filter the type I allow (temple/city) but encountered a problem with the logic in Carnalitas :

 

In the "free slave" interaction you test the flag "carn_slave_cannot_be_freed" on character and traits but in the "on_title_gain" (car_slave_on_actions.txt) you don't. Is it working as intended or did you forget to do that?

(The dynamic works perfectly if I add the test in the on_action)

on_title_gain = {
    trigger = {
        has_trait = slave
        NOR = {
            has_character_flag = carn_slave_cannot_be_freed
            has_trait_with_flag = carn_slave_cannot_be_freed
        }
    }
    events = {
        carn_slave.0002 # Slaves are freed when they gain land for any reason
    }
}

[Cheri Song]

13 hours ago, Strec said:

f I duplicate the trait "slave" with the same datas as your's but the flag "can_not_be_granted_titles" is there a risk of hidden problems? Mainly, will the code of "Carnalitas" (placed before me in the order list) use my trait definition or yours?

Your trait definition will override Carnalitas's definition.

 

13 hours ago, Strec said:

The idea is to permit some special slaves to have some abilities like owning temples/cities without any rights on claims or inheritance, but with courtiers, spouses and concubines. The objective is to transform some location in brothels, breeding grounds, ..

I don't recommend this because the concept of chattel slavery in Carnalitas does not allow slaves to receive titles. My recommendation is that you add a new interaction where you free a slave but force them to gain a trait similar to Monk/Nun.

 

13 hours ago, Strec said:

In the "free slave" interaction you test the flag "carn_slave_cannot_be_freed" on character and traits but in the "on_title_gain" (car_slave_on_actions.txt) you don't. Is it working as intended or did you forget to do that?

This is sort of an oversight, but I think that the current behavior is better than allowing slaves to own land. Carnalitas simply breaks if a slave gains titles for any reason.

[Strec]

55 minutes ago, Cheri Song said:

I don't recommend this because the concept of chattel slavery in Carnalitas does not allow slaves to receive titles. My recommendation is that you add a new interaction where you free a slave but force them to gain a trait similar to Monk/Nun.

 

This is sort of an oversight, but I think that the current behavior is better than allowing slaves to own land. Carnalitas simply breaks if a slave gains titles for any reason.

Ok, so I'll change my code to insert a new trait for 'broken/devoted' and will make it not dependant of Carnalitas slavery. After reflexion I've no problem because I can have an interaction to make them returning to chattel.

 

Found a new problem but I'm not sure how it can be corrected :

 - During a war I enslaved a char, so I'm it new liege and it is at my court.....

 - But on the next war I re-capture it in a battle, it is already flagged as my slave but its liege is it previous one!

 

I think it is because it was flagged as 'champion' or 'commander' in it's previous realm but no proof of this and no idea on how to manage this...

[morat136]

3 hours ago, Strec said:

Ok, so I'll change my code to insert a new trait for 'broken/devoted' and will make it not dependant of Carnalitas slavery. After reflexion I've no problem because I can have an interaction to make them returning to chattel.

 

Found a new problem but I'm not sure how it can be corrected :

 - During a war I enslaved a char, so I'm it new liege and it is at my court.....

 - But on the next war I re-capture it in a battle, it is already flagged as my slave but its liege is it previous one!

 

I think it is because it was flagged as 'champion' or 'commander' in it's previous realm but no proof of this and no idea on how to manage this...

I've had the same happen to me. It's obviously not a perfect fix, but the Sex Slaves for Carnalitas mod adds a "Divorce and add to Court" interaction to all slaves as effectively a debug command in case they get removed from your court by mistake (which can also happen through accidental marriage).

[Cheri Song]

9 hours ago, Strec said:

Found a new problem but I'm not sure how it can be corrected :

 - During a war I enslaved a char, so I'm it new liege and it is at my court.....

 - But on the next war I re-capture it in a battle, it is already flagged as my slave but its liege is it previous one!

 

I think it is because it was flagged as 'champion' or 'commander' in it's previous realm but no proof of this and no idea on how to manage this...

I have no idea why this would happen since slaves are not supposed to be able to leave your court.

[Celedhring]

I'd like to take a moment to thank Cheri Song for her herculean efforts in corrupting Crusader Kings 2 and 3.   Tentacled Dreams frankly is a masterpiece of debauchery and corruption for CK2.  

 

Chtulhu fhtagn!