How to use "Just Business" to capture slaves

[Ki11erTeddybear]

5 hours ago, SlaveHunter311 said:

Ok, sorry for the delay in response. I saw your post last night but I was feeling awfull and I craped out from lack of sleep after a while while I was trying to see what was wrong. Today I tried again. I had the same kind of issue where it was hard to get the run-away slave to respond. Fortunetly I didnt have to chase her all over the common wealth because she could not figure out how to escape my base. I killed her once and then she got back up and ran away again, then my companion killed her the second time and she entered the bleed out state where i was finally able to tell her to "get up and follow me." So I was able to recover her, but not without difficulty. "Just Business" is admitedly a bit glitchy and doesnt always function perfectly. You probably didnt do anything wrong. It's just bad luck. I dont blame you for thinking something was wrong. I would have thought that too. But its just that "just business" needs a bit more polish then it will probably ever get. If you had persisted you might have recaptured your slave but, maybe not. It''s hard to say. I usualy perfer to play with the escape setting off myself because of this issue, but it's up to your own preference. I hope that shines a light on things. Let me know if there is some other way i can help.

 

Also you said something about shocking the slave with a remote? Is that an update of "just business?" or another mod you used to do that?

 

Dude don't worry about not getting back to me RIGHT away, I understand that things happen and people have lives.  Don't kill yourself (figuratively or literally) over a game or community they're not worth it.  So I wound up killing her and putting her down once and she got back up and tried to run again, when I killed her again she stayed down for good LOL.  I wound up doing the same thing and turned off escaping and it resurrected her but I couldn't interact with her at all, so I used the terminal to kill her.  Then whenever I fast traveled anywhere her body ported with me LMAO.  So I wound up just console commanding "disable" on her corpse and deleted it from existence. 

 

As for the shock remote...  I mean anything is possible I'm running JB, RRS, FPE, and WDF.  But it specifically works with the JB collars and I haven't DL'ed anything specifically for the remote.  I found it by going to my workshop in Sanctuary Hills and hitting X to transfer items into it and found "Shock Collar Remote Trigger" in the workshop inventory so I equipped it to a quickslot and it gets pulled out and used like a weapon.  All collars in a certain radius shock the wearers

 

Thanks again for the guide and trying to help.  Take care of yourself and be safe out there.

[Ki11erTeddybear]

On 8/31/2022 at 11:39 PM, katrina.balanchuk said:

PS: crashes much fewer now. Down to perhaps 1 per hour. usually when I run and NPCs are doing something at same time.

 

Also do you have Buffout 4 mod and Autoscan installed they might help you narrow down what's causing your game to crash

[katrina.balanchuk]

1 hour ago, Ki11erTeddybear said:

 

Also do you have Buffout 4 mod and Autoscan installed they might help you narrow down what's causing your game to crash

I have Buffout4 but do not understand the crash reports anyway.☺️

also  do not have autoscan ( have not heard of it)

[Ki11erTeddybear]

8 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

I have Buffout4 but do not understand the crash reports anyway.☺️

also  do not have autoscan ( have not heard of it)

 

Here's an article and the auto scan mod what it does is takes Buffout4 crash reports and tries to make them easier to understand what might be causing it

 

Article

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/3115

 

Mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56255

 

Read these CAREFULLY and follow the instructions to the letter

If you still have trouble lemme know and I'll try and help

[Ki11erTeddybear]

14 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

I have Buffout4 but do not understand the crash reports anyway.☺️

also  do not have autoscan ( have not heard of it)

Also here's the latest Python for the Auto Scan

https://www.python.org/downloads/

[danono]

On 9/5/2022 at 3:53 AM, Ki11erTeddybear said:

Is that an update of "just business?" or another mod you used to do that?

real handcuffs I believe he is referring to

[Interstell]

Hello everyone!

 

First of all - thanks for a guide! It was really useful.

I've got some problem though. One of my slave run away and I've got a quest. I've even met with runaway slave but... I have no idea what to do next. Push "E" button doesn't work at all, if I shoot - she just die. I would be grateful for an advice how to return her back.

[SlaveHunter311]

6 hours ago, Interstell said:

Hello everyone!

 

First of all - thanks for a guide! It was really useful.

I've got some problem though. One of my slave run away and I've got a quest. I've even met with runaway slave but... I have no idea what to do next. Push "E" button doesn't work at all, if I shoot - she just die. I would be grateful for an advice how to return her back.

Well, you may need to elaborate a little more. Sounds like you are using the keyboard, if E is your action button instead of a controller. Now, by "nothing happens," do you mean the button doesn't respond to you? I wouldn't be surprised if you had to hammer her with the action button many times before it works, if it does at all. This portion of "Just Business has always been a bit buggy. That is why I usually go to the MCM menu and turn off the "slave escape" option. But I mean you can still try to make it work by moving to different positions and pressing the action button again and again. 

 

Also, I am not sure if it will help but you might consider resetting the slave via point and click and console command. using ~

 

Hit ~ then click on the slave. type      resetai     and hit enter. That might clean up the mess. But I usually wouldn't bother. If you want to stop this from happening in the future and you want to keep the "runaway slave" quest open, then assign your slaves to a pillory or a restraining device in your settlement as soon as you capture them. Also be sure they are assigned to your settlement first or they will just follow you around, and they won't be stuck in the pillory. You will want to leave them there until there submission level is reasonably high. I am thinking above 35. Can't remember how high it really needs to be, but it IS less and less likely to happen as their submission level goes up.

 

You can check a slave's submission level by scrolling down to the info section in their dialogue box.

[Interstell]

6 hours ago, SlaveHunter311 said:

Well, you may need to elaborate a little more. Sounds like you are using the keyboard, if E is your action button instead of a controller. Now, by "nothing happens," do you mean the button doesn't respond to you? I wouldn't be surprised if you had to hammer her with the action button many times before it works, if it does at all. This portion of "Just Business has always been a bit buggy. That is why I usually go to the MCM menu and turn off the "slave escape" option. But I mean you can still try to make it work by moving to different positions and pressing the action button again and again. 

 

Also, I am not sure if it will help but you might consider resetting the slave via point and click and console command. using ~

 

Hit ~ then click on the slave. type      resetai     and hit enter. That might clean up the mess. But I usually wouldn't bother. If you want to stop this from happening in the future and you want to keep the "runaway slave" quest open, then assign your slaves to a pillory or a restraining device in your settlement as soon as you capture them. Also be sure they are assigned to your settlement first or they will just follow you around, and they won't be stuck in the pillory. You will want to leave them there until there submission level is reasonably high. I am thinking above 35. Can't remember how high it really needs to be, but it IS less and less likely to happen as their submission level goes up.

 

You can check a slave's submission level by scrolling down to the info section in their dialogue box.

Thanks a lot for your fast and detailed reply! Yes, you've understood it right.

 

Yeah, I knew about pillory stuff. I've just sent slave to settlement without my control and couldn't reach it in time to make this.

 

Unfortunately, the best I could do in my situation - kill the slave and disable slave escape option after that (to get rid of annoying "runaway slave" quest). I've tried to catch her and push action button just once, use console command after that, but nothing. I guess it's really some buggy moment.

[DocClox]

When you catch the slave, attack them until they go into bleedout. Then you shoudl be able to tell them to follow you.

 

Although, that stopped working for me too, just recently.  They'd go into bleedout and give me the initial dialogue, but then they'd just go unresponsive. I just rebuilt my load order so hopefully that'll  be fixed now.

 

 

[SlaveHunter311]

On 10/17/2022 at 4:16 AM, DocClox said:

When you catch the slave, attack them until they go into bleedout. Then you shoudl be able to tell them to follow you.

 

Although, that stopped working for me too, just recently.  They'd go into bleedout and give me the initial dialogue, but then they'd just go unresponsive. I just rebuilt my load order so hopefully that'll  be fixed now.

 

 

Good to hear from you again DocClox. I am planning on having a discussion with you a little later. I hope you'll be around.

[peperceval]

I'm glad this topic is still going on.

Firstly for your well made guide on how to use the mod.

And secondly, because I have the same problem as another user here. I only have 4 dialogue choices with my slave, and the go home and obedience aren't among them. But there seem to be a bigger issue as I only have 3 options in the mod manager? (Cf the screenshots)
 

I use Vortex to manage the mods and all the mods needed, the game/Vortex/mods are also all up to date. Would you happen to have any idea what could globaly cause this?

[SlaveHunter311]

5 hours ago, peperceval said:

I'm glad this topic is still going on.

Firstly for your well made guide on how to use the mod.

And secondly, because I have the same problem as another user here. I only have 4 dialogue choices with my slave, and the go home and obedience aren't among them. But there seem to be a bigger issue as I only have 3 options in the mod manager? (Cf the screenshots)
 

I use Vortex to manage the mods and all the mods needed, the game/Vortex/mods are also all up to date. Would you happen to have any idea what could globaly cause this?

Wow, that's unique.   I can see that you have both MCM and XDI. I don't understand why extended dialogue interface isn't functional. It's even more perplexing that you have so few features for just business in the MCM menu if it is in fact up to date. And you used Vortex? It seems like it should work. Do you have the latest version of F4SE? 

Fallout 4 Script Extender (F4SE) (feedreader.com)

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by SlaveHunter311

[peperceval]

Well, after going through the basic troubleshooting (uninstalling all mods and doing a fresh install of just the necessary mods for running Just Business), I finally got it to work and found out what the problem was.

 

Me.

 

Remember when I said everything was up to date? Well when I downloaded Just Business, it was pretty late, and tired as I was I downloaded the file on top of the list thinking it was the newest version. I guess the oldest version only gives you those few features.

I never thought that I would be a Problem exist between chair and keyboard case...

[SlaveHunter311]

On 12/14/2022 at 5:24 AM, peperceval said:

Well, after going through the basic troubleshooting (uninstalling all mods and doing a fresh install of just the necessary mods for running Just Business), I finally got it to work and found out what the problem was.

 

Me.

 

Remember when I said everything was up to date? Well when I downloaded Just Business, it was pretty late, and tired as I was I downloaded the file on top of the list thinking it was the newest version. I guess the oldest version only gives you those few features.

I never thought that I would be a Problem exist between chair and keyboard case...

wow. I had a feeling it was something like that. I cant tell you how many times I've done something like this myself. At least you got it working in the end though.

[tintin99992040]

Hi ! How do you recapture runaway slaves ? I have one that escaped, I catched up with her but can't find what to do, I can't mark her again, and if I shoot her she dies eventually ...

[travelmedic]

7 hours ago, tintin99992040 said:

Hi ! How do you recapture runaway slaves ? I have one that escaped, I catched up with her but can't find what to do, I can't mark her again, and if I shoot her she dies eventually ...

 

You're supposed to shoot her and she will go into bleedout, then you walk up and capture her by dialogue.

 

Seems to be very buggy, I think a couple of times I had to enter console and "kill" the escaped slave and then they would enter bleedout.

 

Better to just turn that feature off in the MCM.  In my experience they always just ran to Mystic Pines Nursing Home (I think that was it) and the quest got pretty boring after a while.

[Crippsy]

so really enjoy this mod fighting ack ack on survival with the MAIM nod from nexus made it all that much sweeter when I made her a slave. 

 

like many others I was struggling to get the dialog to always work correctly (no dialog for making them stay in settlements) but I manged to figure out that the 'sexy charisma mod' that changes the pop up was causing the override so if that helps you and others identify the problem I'm glad I could help

[AbRAoM]

Hoy. Got a problem here, cant assign slaves anywhere, here all the options game shows to me when i press "talk". I have the newest version of the mod, Tried new game still the same.

[AbRAoM]

6 hours ago, AbRAoM said:

Hoy. Got a problem here, cant assign slaves anywhere, here all the options game shows to me when i press "talk". I have the newest version of the mod, Tried new game still the same.

edit: Fixed, my dumb ass had also "Full Dialogue Interface" installed which overwritten essential "Extended Dialogue Interface" files  

[SlaveHunter311]

On 1/6/2023 at 5:18 PM, AbRAoM said:

edit: Fixed, my dumb ass had also "Full Dialogue Interface" installed which overwritten essential "Extended Dialogue Interface" files  

glad you figured it out. very nice character.

[AbRAoM]

22 hours ago, SlaveHunter311 said:

glad you figured it out. very nice character.

Thanks, made her into a medic. Quite a transformation: from blood thirsty raider to a life saving hero. 
Outstanding mod yo made here, big thanks for delivering it to us.

[cocoablacks555]

日本語（japanese)でごめんなさい

 

ジャストビジネスのファイルを全部ダウンロードしました

ファイルは全部で大丈夫ですか？

 

また言語がロシア語になっていて困っています、どうにか英語に変換したいです

教えていただけたら嬉しいです

Edited January 23, 2023 by cocoablacks555

[SlaveHunter311]

On 1/23/2023 at 10:55 AM, cocoablacks555 said:

Sorry for Japanese (Japanese)

 

I downloaded all the files for Just Business

Are all the files okay?

 

Also, I'm having trouble because the language is Russian, I want to convert it to English somehow.

I would be happy if you could tell me

I translated your message into English so I could read it. The files should be ok as far as i know. It is strange that you are saying the language is in Russian. I know the author is Russian, but when I downloaded "Just business" all the text is in perfect English for me. Maybe you have a different version of the game, and the author needs to make a patch for your version. I suggest you make a post in the official forum and try to get in contact with Ignotum_Virum, the author of the mod.

 

 

I wish I could do more for you, but I recently lost all my pc data, and it will take me a while to set it back up. Can't even play fallout 4 with "just business" right now. sorry.

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by SlaveHunter311

[cocoablacks555]

2023/1/25 午前 11 時 32 分、SlaveHunter311 は次のように述べています。

あなたのメッセージを読めるように英語翻訳しました。私の知る限り、ファイルは問題ないはずです。言語がロシア語だとあなたが言っているのは奇妙です。は、「Just business」をダウンロードすると、すべてのテキストが完璧な英語で表示されます。ゲームの別のバージョンを使用している可能性があり、作成者はそのバージョンのパッチを作成する必要があります公式フォーラムに投稿して、modの作成者である Ignotum_Virum に連絡を取ることをお勧めします。

 

 

もっとお手伝いできればと思いますが、最近のPCデータがすべて変わってしまったので、元に戻すのに時間がかかります。今のところ「ただのビジネス」でフォールアウト4をプレイすることさえできません。

 

（日本語）返信ありがとう、mod制作者様にご連絡してみようと思います

あなたのPCデータが無事であることを祈ります

Edited February 6, 2023 by cocoablacks555