Sanguine's Debauchery

[AwfulArchdemon]

@CGI, I know thugs get your stuff, and how to get it back, and I don't have any problems now except whippings (which have become a bit rare) not beginning properly. It's not a problem every time, just every once in a while. Bondage=fine, rapes=fine (except uneven ground, and the bouncing up and down trying to align itself thing, and the up and down directional keys not working quite right), thugs=fine, Spriggans=fine, and Sanguine's realm/dream sequence=fine. Master goes to sleep, and never wanders from his/her group entirely, just makes rounds and goes back "home". I never really get raped without there being a reason, like if I initiate dialogue and say the "right" things, or if I stand around butt-naked right next to master for a long ass time. "Random rapes" happen more often around everyone else. A lot more often, actually. Around master or anyone in his/her "home" (camp or whatever), I'm getting a whole lot of idle conversation like "Can I help you", and "What do you need". I never really get raped unless I somehow cause it to happen during enslavement. MBP requires a bed, so you better be near one, or you can forget about it. I've never joined my master's crew before, so no comment there. Never even heard of player.moveto before. Only heard of coc, and you need to know exactly what to input when you use it (coc solitude will do nothing, coc Ivarsted will do nothing etc. You need to type in specific things like coc Whiterunentrance, and coc Solitudebluepalacecourtroom and stuff like that. I doubt those exact codes would actually work, just getting the point across), so I don't use it, because I don't have the list, and I don't feel like looking it up and writing it down so I can keep reading it and typing that stuff in every time I need to get somewhere. Besides, I travel via the flying ring, so I travel very quickly (love that ring!), or, I fly via bat travel or wings (Vampire Lord), so I've had no reason to look up anything else. I just go where master goes, and pray to Sanguine that it's a level enough surface to "use". If I wish to end my stay with master and his/her entourage, I steal the key, and blow 'em all away with a nice, fat Firestorm, or just keep wailing on them after a timely Mass Paralysis, then casually loot my stuff back. Strangely enough, whenever I have been enslaved with my wife, they take her stuff too, but when I get it back for her, all of her stuff is now "stolen".   ...?

[AwfulArchdemon]

@AwfulArchdemon: I ended up learning Papyrus scripting to tune SD scripts and make enslavement more playable (at least until SD2 comes out).

 

In short, that means:

 

More diverse events when you select (passive) or (anger) dialogs

- sex doesn't happen all the time (especially on feed and drink)

- chance of dance or punishment on (passive) dialog

- chance of leniency on (anger) dialog

- chance of alcohol or skooma served as drinks

 

Extended leash radius to indoor cells

- the master will not pull you back to him as long as you are both indoors (and preferably in the same cell). This makes it easier to find clients, money or scavenge for food

 

I also added random chances of sex when you meet just about anyone (enslaved or not), with a small chance of enslavement (that may break some quests, use with caution).

- This adds more unpredictability and tension when dealing with other NPCs and it reflects the coveted influence of a powerful daedric artifact

 

I have a long list of ideas but these are the ones I tested so far. They do make the game less grueling when it comes to enslavement.

 

I also had a lot of fun learning scripting and testing these ideas - like that time when I missed a condition and I ended up being enslaved by a dragon. Would you know he landed next to me and started talking to me?!

He talked to you!?!? Did he...try to...never mind. I'm way too busy learning CK and Photoshop to learn Papyrus, so that just isn't happening anytime soon.

[xxEnDoRxx]

Hey:) great mod love to play that!

Sry but i need some help - everytime fighting and surrendering a SRIGGAN causes a Back to Desktop Crash!

Waht can I do?

The other things work good. Just some animatios (I guess sex) is only kneeling arround and doing nothing else...

I would thank you for your help! Greetings

 

I installed with Nexusmodmanager: FNIS, UNP, xaz, zaz, SexiS Data,... yes i used FNISgenerator.

[CGi]

@AwfulArchdemon: To me it sounds like everything is working fine, despite the flaws and bugs of Skyrim itself.

if it comes down to Skyrims engine and all it's bugs and shit, it can only be descriibed like this: Deal with it.

 

To use MoveTo, you need the objects Reference iD (not Form iD). Just open the console, click on your master and there you got it.
Player.MoveTo [REFiD] then moves you to your master, whereever she/he is, even to other cells.
And if you need the EditoriD for CoC, use TES5Edit. You can use it's search function (may take a while), to find what you need.

A second monitor is very handy in this case or play in windowed mode, as tabbing in and out doesn't make the game run more stable.

 

@skyrimll: i actually never have a leash on my char, when my master is in an interior cell. Strange. And i didn't edit SD to do so.

Only thing i added, is romancing the master, which is done by a seperate esp, editing nothing in SD.

it's just a dialogue option, creating a new instance of my master, getting rid of the old one.

 

@xxEnDoRxx: Uninstall SD, clean-save, reinstall SD or try on a clean save/new game (recommended).

Please try this first. To many possible errors sources.

[Tonutoukemonu]

When my character arrives at it's destination during the spriggan enslavement quest, nothing happens.
Is there anything I should do after arriving at that destination?

[CGi]

Erm... no. You're just supposed to arrive and endure a rather long sex session.
But the destinations for finishing the quest are random and sometimes the script doesn't trigger due to obstacles and such.
Quicksave before getting near the questmarker and try to go there from different directions.
For example the ruin near the road (near Falkreath): You better enter thru the roof, to make the script trigger. Else the spriggans are just standing there.

[Tonutoukemonu]

Erm... no. You're just supposed to arrive and endure a rather long sex session.

But the destinations for finishing the quest are random and sometimes the script doesn't trigger due to obstacles and such.

Quicksave before getting near the questmarker and try to go there from different directions.

For example the ruin near the road (near Falkreath): You better enter thru the roof, to make the script trigger. Else the spriggans are just standing there.

 

Well, my target was Clearpine pond near the statue of Meridia. I tried approaching it form all four cardinal directions, no luck. The quest progresses and says that my character has arrived; its close, but no cigar.

 

Maybe there's someting wrong with my save? The reason I think this is that sometimes after quicktravelling my character fall prone as if she was low on health or something. The only thing I can do at that point is jumping. After a quick jump I regain control over the character.

 

Could I perhaps reset the quest progression somehow?

[AwfulArchdemon]

CGi's 

To use MoveTo, you need the objects Reference iD (not Form iD). Just open the console, click on your master and there you got it.

Hm, just click master. huh? I'm having a hard time figuring out to do that with a controller. Is their a help console thing that'll tell me that RefID so I can use it when a problem arises (like help master or something), or must I switch to my mouse every time?

[CGi]

@Tonutoukemonu: That sucks. Got no clue why nothing is triggering.

That your toon drops, is due to the sprigan armor filling all your toons orifices with sap (that's what the mod says ^^).
So from time to time your char goes into bleeding state for a way to long time, but can be solved by jumping as you already noticed.
Or your toon just falls over. Both very unhandy in combat. But the armor still rocks, despite the annoying leaf effect in 1st person mode.

 

To reset the quest, unequip the armor (if needed by using the console), remove the armor using the console, uninstall SD, clean-save and install SD again.
This definitly resets everything that has to do with SD.

 

@AwfulArchdemon: Not as far as i'm aware, as the help command only prints out form ids and editor id's.
So from my point of view, you got to switch over to the mouse.
But be aware when clicking things: Effects like smoke and such might be between you and the object you try to click on, selecting those instead.

So you better get really close in FiRST PERSON mode.

 

But seeing that you never used the console this way:

The ref id will be printed out on top of the console window, centered.
And it's kept selected as long as you don't quit the game. Handy in some situations.

To deselect, click an object twice.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

@AwfulArchdemon: I ended up learning Papyrus scripting to tune SD scripts and make enslavement more playable (at least until SD2 comes out).

 

In short, that means:

 

More diverse events when you select (passive) or (anger) dialogs

- sex doesn't happen all the time (especially on feed and drink)

- chance of dance or punishment on (passive) dialog

- chance of leniency on (anger) dialog

- chance of alcohol or skooma served as drinks

 

Extended leash radius to indoor cells

- the master will not pull you back to him as long as you are both indoors (and preferably in the same cell). This makes it easier to find clients, money or scavenge for food

 

I also added random chances of sex when you meet just about anyone (enslaved or not), with a small chance of enslavement (that may break some quests, use with caution).

- This adds more unpredictability and tension when dealing with other NPCs and it reflects the coveted influence of a powerful daedric artifact

 

I have a long list of ideas but these are the ones I tested so far. They do make the game less grueling when it comes to enslavement.

 

I also had a lot of fun learning scripting and testing these ideas - like that time when I missed a condition and I ended up being enslaved by a dragon. Would you know he landed next to me and started talking to me?!

He talked to you!?!? Did he...try to...never mind. I'm way too busy learning CK and Photoshop to learn Papyrus, so that just isn't happening anytime soon.

 

 

He didn't try to do anything... just talk and kill whoever wandered nearby. I did add a check for valid NPCs so that it wouldn't happen again, although I probably missed something. Somehow, Serana from Dawnguard managed to enslave me during a fight last night. I didn't play it through but it raised interesting ideas.

 

The leash indoors happened to me several times when demerits accumulate in a bad way, which makes it a lot harder to fix things as you can't go anywhere.

 

Next on my list of improvements will be about adding random events on sleep while enslaved.

 

I got the idea after waking up to a courrier who somehow got into a bandits den to hand me a letter from the Jarl. My master and his friends jumped on the poor guy.

 

It thought it would be nice to add a small chance of someone else wandering close to the master's location. Imagine a guard or housecarl from the local hold coming to save you, or a creature lurking about... this could add a chance of death for the master or at least a distraction for a quick escape.

 

I am thinking of looking at the code for the dream sequence to learn how to trigger events on sleep.

[AwfulArchdemon]

I wanna be enslaved by Serana too! Any way in hell??

[jbezorg]

I am thinking of looking at the code for the dream sequence to learn how to trigger events on sleep.

 

Here's what you're looking for

 

http://www.creationkit.com/OnSleepStart_-_Form

 

http://www.creationkit.com/OnSleepStop_-_Form

 

 

Dreamer alias script simplified.

Scriptname _SDRAS_dreamer extends ReferenceAlias  

// the dark brotherhood enterance quest
pDBEntranceQuestScript Property dbe Auto

Actor kDreamer

Event OnInit()
    kDreamer = Self.GetReference() as Actor
    RegisterForSleep()
EndEvent

Event OnSleepStart(float afSleepStartTime, float afDesiredSleepEndTime)
    // prevent dream from triggering when DB start is queued.
    If ( dbe.pSleepyTime != 1 )

    EndIf
EndEvent

Event OnSleepStop(bool abInterrupted)
    If abInterrupted

    EndIf
EndEvent

 

[dabonzors22]

Would anyone be able to help me? I was trying to reset my SD by uninstalling then reinstalling and now when i don't have the mod active, the game crashes when i save and while it is active none of the categories show up. I also followed the uninstalling/reinstalling steps. I've  uninstalled then reinstalled every other mod i have to check if it was something wrong with them too. Help would be appreciated .

 

Having the Exact same problem. following instructions to the T, even waited 30 minutes before trying to save once.

 

A week ago I uninstalled absolutely everything including steam, then manually went in and looked for any lingering folders to delete as well. Before this SD was working fairly well for me, spriggan quest was buggy but i got it to the last stage: Go to a cave somewhere north/east of solitude, unfortunately my character just kept going ragdoll at that point.

 

After I reinstalled everything, 100% as instructions ask, SD was not running sex or bondage scenes, sex scenes started working 50% of the time after a while but mostly just more ragdoll. xaz appears to be installed correctly as i have not had any problems with the prison overhaul mod.

 

I am pretty lame when it comes to technical issues. Most frustrating thing for me is that i dont have the knowledge to help or fix it myself. Lord knows i have the time.

 

I have resolved to turning the weakened state slider all the way down so these bastards cant enslave me, until i decide to reset skyrim again.

 

This is my first post, AWSOME MOD when it is working at even 80% of the time. You get a full gigity giggity gew for this one.

[CGi]

Did you re-run FNiS after uninstalling and installing SD?

 

Always the same question, i know. But it's so easy to forget something, like re-running FNiS.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks! 

 

I will take a look as soon as I am done cleaning up my load order.

 

I just (re) discovered BOSS and ... what a mess. I thought i was on top of my mods dependencies but I missed a lot of things.

 

 

I am thinking of looking at the code for the dream sequence to learn how to trigger events on sleep.

 

Here's what you're looking for

 

http://www.creationkit.com/OnSleepStart_-_Form

 

http://www.creationkit.com/OnSleepStop_-_Form

 

 

Dreamer alias script simplified.

Scriptname _SDRAS_dreamer extends ReferenceAlias  

// the dark brotherhood enterance quest
pDBEntranceQuestScript Property dbe Auto

Actor kDreamer

Event OnInit()
    kDreamer = Self.GetReference() as Actor
    RegisterForSleep()
EndEvent

Event OnSleepStart(float afSleepStartTime, float afDesiredSleepEndTime)
    // prevent dream from triggering when DB start is queued.
    If ( dbe.pSleepyTime != 1 )

    EndIf
EndEvent

Event OnSleepStop(bool abInterrupted)
    If abInterrupted

    EndIf
EndEvent

 

[Vlaphor]

I've followed the instructions, installed the requisite mods, finished the quest and am trying to install the mod through the mod manager, but it isn't working.  It says the SD is installing and then is installed, but if I check again, then it still offers me the chance to install it, and getting defeated by the forsworn does nothing.  Here's a pic of my load order, and I am running FNIS after changing pretty much anything.

 

 

I've uninstalled all three of the sd patches due to a lack of the required content.  What am I doing wrong?

[CGi]

Your loard order looks ... uhm ... interessting.
Use BOSS to get a basic load order.

SanguinesDebauchgery.ESP should be placed below SexiS (SexiS is known by BOSS, so i use this as anchor, where to place SD in your LO).
ZaZAnimationPackConfig should be placed above SexiS and Estrus above ZaZ.

And run FNiS Generator, if you havent already.

 

Btw: Get Wrye Bash, ghost all deactivated mods (right click -> ghost) and build the Bashed Patch (right click on BashedPatch.ESP).

BashedPatch.ESP has always to be loaded last, but BOSS will take care of this.

 

And are you sure, Alternate Start is not messing with factions and/or ai's? if i remember right, it edits the fornsworn faction, so you can start as one of them.
And what is Apocalypse.ESP?

And just to have it mentioned: SD and SexiS defeated are conflicting mods, unless you set them up correct, as both do the same.

[Vlaphor]

I followed all of the advice, same problem.  I click on INSTALL, it does nothing for a few seconds, then it says that it is installing and then that it is installed, then I go to check and it still says INSTALL.

 

Also Apocalypse is a spell.

 

and I can't put .esp above .esm

[CGi]

Who told you to put an esp above an esm???
Anyway... i'm out of clues. Maybe someone else can help or you wait for jbezorg to answer.

[Altrawup]

Does anyone know how to disable all the slaver factions other than the Spriggans (I don't like my stuff being stolen)? I asked this a while ago and got the tip I should disable the other factions, but I suck at the CK, so any instructions would be very much appreciated.

 

Perhaps a feature could be added in a future update so you can configure the slaver factons through MCM?

Thanks in advance.

[AwfulArchdemon]

I've followed the instructions, installed the requisite mods, finished the quest and am trying to install the mod through the mod manager, but it isn't working.  It says the SD is installing and then is installed, but if I check again, then it still offers me the chance to install it, and getting defeated by the forsworn does nothing.  Here's a pic of my load order, and I am running FNIS after changing pretty much anything.

 

 

I've uninstalled all three of the sd patches due to a lack of the required content.  What am I doing wrong?

Now is a good time to uninstall SD. If you installed using the manager, and it says the classic "installed successfully ", but isn't, then your Manager is acting up, or at least it was at the time you installed it. Double check to be sure the info isn't in your files, and then run FNIS "as administrator". This stuff should be done using the classic clean save method. When you have this stuff out of your game, and are getting no negative msgs from SKSE in the top left of your screen, go back and reinstall SD. FNIS again. I use Alternate start, and I get enslaved by Forsworn, even though I began as one of them. I'm Forsworn, but my only companions are the ones I had in my "home" at the start. Others attack and enslave me. It seems there ARE some that don't enslave though, and I wish I could tell you exactly which, but I simply forget. Always BOSS and FNIS "as administrator". Btw, I've heard bad things about "Bigger Giants" conflicting with stuff. Just a heads up. i think it says so on it's dl page. Another Btw...do you get confirmation that "Sanguine is Watching" when you install? Have you EVER been enslaved?

[rustynuts]

Perhaps someone can help me, installed the mod and it seems to be working fine, but everytime I enter 1st person mode my view point seems to be set 4 metres off the ground (everyone looks like a migdet) and the up/down tracking has a really high sensitivity making it difficult to aim the cursor.

[AwfulArchdemon]

Perhaps someone can help me, installed the mod and it seems to be working fine, but everytime I enter 1st person mode my view point seems to be set 4 metres off the ground (everyone looks like a migdet) and the up/down tracking has a really high sensitivity making it difficult to aim the cursor.

When you enter 1st person, try console: pov (press enter), and see if anything changes. If so, look at your .ini and make sure a previously installed mod didn't alter it in any way. If you don't know what to look for, let me know. I can show you mine (altered, but in a good way).

[Vlaphor]

I get no confirmation of anything when I install other than "SD is Installing", then "SD is installed"

[AwfulArchdemon]

So you uninstalled, reinstalled, and tried again? Did you see any msgs at the top left from SKSE when SD was uninstalled? If not, then your missing an important chunk of files when you install SD, somehow. Have you ever been enslaved??