S.L.U.T.S. Resume

[remodel]

A thought on the flipping cart.  I'm suspicious that the cart works similarly to the initial cart ride to the headsman at the start of the vanilla game.  It's documented that script latency flips it when loading all the mods at the beginning by Arthmoor; thus Alternate Start LAL.  If this is also affecting the SLUTS cart flip there might be a solution by giving Skyrim.exe a higher priority in the operating system so more scripts can run without colliding.  There's a new Mod Skyrim Priority - SKSE that automatically does this without fiddling with system files.  Something else to test for the condition is Elephant's Script Latency Tester which "provides an ability to run a simple Papyrus script latency test with optional logging and/or notification."

 

My system normally runs at 79 to 80 MS which is normal.  Occasionally latency jumps to over a 1,000 and my CPU handles this.  The first time I entered the BannardMare I've gotten over 4,000 which I'm sure caused some glitches, like missed SexLab scenes and such which are minor and will happen again when an event or poll is taken; minor.  It could be a possible encounter caused scripts to fire but failed and caused the cart to flip.

 

Until I know that SLUTS Resume will work with my physics setup I can't test it.

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, remodel said:

Since I do not have HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics) because I have a potato machine, I'm wondering about the tail which require it. 

1) Is the tail optional? 

2) If not tail optional and I install SMP for the tail and the few DD5.1 devices that use it, would I be required to install an HDT CBBE body?  HDT physics on the CBBE bodies would overload my machine.  CBPC works fine for me.

 

I use the UNPB body with CBPC and HDT-SMP, so that CBPC handles body physics and HDT-SMP handles apparel physics.

 

Here is my post describing how I set it up: 

 

[Scrab]

1 hour ago, remodel said:

A thought on the flipping cart.  I'm suspicious that the cart works similarly to the initial cart ride to the headsman at the start of the vanilla game

Not quite, the issue with the bugging cart in SLUTS is primarily caused by the character model glitching out, hence you require a complete reload of your game to fix it - forcing the game to unload the PC and load them back in from scratch

 

What happens in the Vanilla Intro to glitch out the carts is usually either the cart not being fully settled by havok - or settled in the wrong position - and then shackled to the horse. When that happens, the cart gains too much momentum: The "tether" tries to pull the cart towards the horse, the cart flies past the horse, the tether pulls it back again and BOOM spinning cart! - caused by never ending pushin n pullin, yay!

This can have many, many reasons - most of them not even related to Papyrus but more to the engine genuinely glitching out; another reason may be unstable FPS. Vanilla cart glitching out is always always just momentum being applied in the wrong moment (no pun intended) causing Havok to go crrrrrr~azy

 

In fact, and Im sorry to ruin all your childhood dreams here, but the Intro isnt actually all that script heavy, its slightly above average for Vanilla Quests. If you take a deeper look into that intro and analyze it step by step, youll realize that the amount of script load in that intro is fairly small. In fact, LALs start is significantly less stable than the Vanilla Intro (suprise, suprise) - of course it still "fixes" the cart because it reduces the amount of things that can go wrong when the cart is first tethered

To put it into perspective: Yamete or Defeat run 5 times the amount of script every time someone gets hit. People just see a script thats longer than 10 lines and be like "WHOA SCRIPT HEAVY" but its always a question about when and how those scripts are called and used - and what they do

The Vanilla Intro-Quest-Script holds roughly 3k lines but more than half of those are properties for its 50 aliases (which btw is another reason why the cart may glitch out which has nothing to do with Papyrus) and 100 other properties, and from the remaining 1500 lines, 500 are for quickstarts used by the devs when first testing the Intro, then theres also some a lot of commentating n stuff, making the script be no more than 500 lines of actual code - and thats from the title sequence when you click new game all the way to end of Helgen Cave - of course there are a quadzillion trigger boxes and a second Intro Quest but those arent all that Script Heavy either, all short functions

 

Yes, Im slightly obsessed with the Intro Quest, thank you

 

 

....hence priority stuff prbly wont really do a whole lot. Strongly doubt it, but feel free to try

 

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You can completely disable the Tail in the MCM if you dont want to use SMP. If there are DD meshes for the Tail that dont use SMP, I have no clue, SLUTS uses the default DD ones though, so if you can use them, you should be able to use the ones from SLUTS too

[remodel]

3 hours ago, Scrab said:

In fact, and Im sorry to ruin all your childhood dreams here, but the Intro isnt actually all that script heavy, its slightly above average for Vanilla Quests.

Just positing a thought while trying to be helpful.  Guess I was more of an annoyance.

 

3 hours ago, Scrab said:

You can completely disable the Tail in the MCM if you dont want to use SMP.

Thanks much

 

3 hours ago, Herowynne said:

I use the UNPB body with CBPC and HDT-SMP, so that CBPC handles body physics and HDT-SMP handles apparel physics.

 

Here is my post describing how I set it up: 

I will certainly look this over and depending on ease of use and number of pluggins, I'll probably use it.  Thanks.

[remodel]

Loaded DD5.1 and S.L.U.T.S without SMP-HDT for now and made a test haul from Whiterun to Winterhold with no tail.  Earned a bunch ot philly coins.  Worked great!  I found it interesting the cart tried to pass me going downhill like it would pick up speed due to gravity; well done.   Had a great time at Fort Kastav attacking the ice mages with the cart while my followers finished them.   No one on the road took advantage; (un)fortunately.    Next test, a bit of crime and rehab.  Went and stole one Belethor's candlesticks, ran outside and confronted a guard.  The Guard only responded with "Hey I know you, ..."  No other interaction.  Went back inside and even Belethor forgot about it!

 

I do not have DCL 9.  I do have Guard Dialogue Overhaul SE.

 

Before I spend a ton of time trying to solve no rehab dialog, does anyone have any Ideas/experience with this situation?

 

EDIT:  Well, SLUTS is not causing the issue.  I tested without it and it happened.  Still if you know of a reason I wouldn't mind an assist.  

EDIT 2:  Fixed it.  Seems the save file got corrupted while loading new mods and prevented the manager from loading criminal dialogs. Started a new game and it worked.  However, now I have missing texture for boots and pony "gloves".  The textures were working so I'm sure I'll figure it out.

[SOSMarche]

Can you play the mod's content with an AMAB character? My partner and I are getting into Skyrim and he'd like to play a SLUTS stallion.

[remodel]

Nipple Gold Piercings can not be seen on CBBE curvy body.   They are equipped under the Item menu and as designed can't be removed.  The menu for attempting removal works and when a devious key is purchased they can be removed.

 

I removed all the armor that could interfere with body slots.  Nope, no visible piercings.

 

In SSEEdit, I identified the nipple piercings as 0A04C873 -- SLUTS_Armor_PiercingN1_i under the Armor tag.

I noticed under the male world model it pointed to devious\Heretic\WorldObjects\HR_Piercing01_go.nif. 

In SLUTS, there was no world female model.  Not sure, but shouldn't the model be here too.

 

I confirmed that under DD5.1, I built the HR_Piercing01_0.nif and HR_Piercing01_1.nif under the DD Framework CBBE SE BodySlide group.

I found that the Armor tag zadx_HR_NipplePiercingsInventory [Iron piercings (Nipples) had both male and female models.

 

When I finally got them off I checked them out with more informative console and saw that SLUTS was the last to change them, but there were two oddities; 1) "Ref Defined In: Unknown"  2) "Ref Last Changed By: Unknown".  Load issue?

 

I did add the male model reference and textures to SLUTS' female world model to no avail.  No visible nipple rings.

 

Happy you retextured them gold and they look good in the inventory and on the ground.  It'd be cool to see them on the body.

 

Mod load issue or model issue I can't say.   Don't know what to do next, any ideas?

[Scrab]

6 hours ago, remodel said:

SLUTS_Armor_PiercingN1_i

you need to check the rendered device, and if that rendered device has an armor addon, you need to check the armor addon instead

The inventory device is only what you see in your inventory, you dont actually wear it on your body

 

Ill check on the piercing and report back if the issue was on me

 

HQ is done by roughly 70% now. We got the largest mine in the entire now and Im not entirely sure what to do with it, but its there. Yay.

[remodel]

1 hour ago, Scrab said:

HQ is done by roughly 70% now. We got the largest mine in the entire now and Im not entirely sure what to do with it, but its there. Yay.

I'm looking forward to it.  If you're going to use baths, check out Diziet's Player Home Bath Undressing for SkyrimSE (undresses players and NPCs) and see if he can add it to the list of mods he supports.  It'll reduce your development load.  It'll be good to have a bath to get the dirt off.  Let arousal mods handle the love.  Maybe put something in the water/area to increase arousal if it's easy.

 

I've made 5 runs with the cart with no flips using Skyrim Priority SE - skse on my potato machine, seems to work for me.  I'm starting a new test and will do 5 back to back and see how it works out.  Had an animation hang up and to unfreeze it had to drop to the desk top and reload.  When it finally started working the PC was floating on her side in the air.

 

Some kind of disease control would be useful.  I caught several from critters.  I'd hate to run into vampires! 

[KappaLima]

hmm got the letter of recommendation but no filly wear set was given?

[Scrab]

2 hours ago, KappaLima said:

hmm got the letter of recommendation but no filly wear set was given?

 

Because there are no Filly Rewards for the time being, I removed them until I get to reworking that system, which should be with  the next version if I dont run into any major complications with it

 

On 5/25/2021 at 1:36 AM, remodel said:

Some kind of disease control would be useful.  I caught several from critters.  I'd hate to run into vampires! 

I plan on introducing features for this kind of stuff once the HQ stands

 

 

(LL Forums are so much easier to write in than Nexus ones oof)

 

[KappaLima]

6 hours ago, Scrab said:

 

Because there are no Filly Rewards for the time being, I removed them until I get to reworking that system, which should be with  the next version if I dont run into any major complications with it

 

 

Ok I see, looking forward to it

Also my livery seems to be unable to be applied by script too ( using DCL update and LE 1.20 version, slavetats is 1.36 )

but removing the sluts tattoo by script is working tho which is weird

And delivery fail's (without cart) dialogue doesnt ends the quest

 

Still enjoyed the mod just wanted to report a thing or two

Thank you for reviving the mod and the hard work

 

edit: found those logs concerning slavetats

[05/26/2021 - 01:39:44PM] ERROR: Static function root not found on object JDB. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload._global_extra() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.apply_per_cell_customizations() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.apply_customizations() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
[05/26/2021 - 01:39:44PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp2"
stack:
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload._global_extra() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.apply_per_cell_customizations() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.apply_customizations() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest SlaveTatsExtra (96001834)].slavetatsonload.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SlaveTatsOnLoad.psc" Line ?

[remodel]

Good news - Bad news while testing.

 

Started a new Haul on a new game so corrupt save files wouldn't be a factor.  Had three followers; Recorder, Uthgerd the Unbroken, and Lydia.  The haul was from Whiterun to Dawnstar.

 

 

Good news:

1) The cart will hurt followers.  I use Nether's Follower Framework and modify followers so they don't die during the haul.  The followers will save your life, recommend you have some.

2)  The entry to and from Fort Dunstad was too narrow for the cart and it flipped when going through them.  However, my cart righted itself without issues.  

     I have a potato PC and Skyrim Priority - SKSE really works for me.  I saw where others were having flipping cart that became unattached.  It didn't happen to me and the cart fixed itself twice.  Also of note: Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.1.5 (3BBB / HDT-SMP / HPH) is testing Skyrim Priority - SKSE and initial reporting is it smooths the game for them.

 

Bad news: 

After Fort Dunstad my PC and Uthgerd became overwhelmed by arousal and went into an animation from Billyy's Animation [lesbian].  When PC became detached from the harness during the animation, she died!  Arousal Based MatchMaker started the animation.  SexLab animations should not cause death and makes this mod incompatible with  Arousal Based MatchMaker.  Nether should an animation free the PC from the cart following the animation.  For my load order I'm not going to be able to use SLUTS.  I would prefer animation from any SL source and death to be resolved, but I don't know how difficult that would be.

 

Up and until the animation and death scene I was having fun with this mod.  Good work.

 

 

[Scrab]

2 hours ago, KappaLima said:

And delivery fail's (without cart) dialogue doesnt ends the quest

You mean the Quest is still in your Quest Dialogue? but you can start a new Haul auftwards?

 

2 hours ago, KappaLima said:

found those logs concerning slavetats

That doesnt look to be an issue with SLUTS but one exclusively to SlaveTats, Id recommend to check on your ST installation first

 

1 hour ago, remodel said:

When PC became detached from the harness

Wut?

I dont even understand why and how you died there

 

[KappaLima]

12 minutes ago, Scrab said:

That doesnt look to be an issue with SLUTS but one exclusively to SlaveTats, Id recommend to check on your ST installation first

yes, did some digging around slavetats script.

for some reason a domain field is required for the entry to be compared with the template

 

Line 411 of slavetats.psc

if is_tattoo(entry) && (domain == JMap.getStr(entry, "domain"))

 

after one simple change to sluts_livery.json it works fine now

 

{
                "subsystem": "livery",
                "body": "CBBE",
                "name": "Livery, Green (CBBE)",
                "area": "Body",
                "section": "SLUTS",
                "texture": "sluts_livery\\livery_cbbe_default.dds",
                "credit": "DocClox",
                "colorable": false,
                "domain": "Default" << add this
}

 

leaving this here in case anyone runs into the same problem

 

6 minutes ago, Scrab said:

You mean the Quest is still in your Quest Dialogue? but you can start a new Haul auftwards?

 

nope, after speak to the cart guy without cart and got pony gag removed > report cart missing > dialogue closed and the last quest still not ended > talk to the guy again and the dialogue tree starts from "I have a delivery for you" again

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, KappaLima said:

did some digging around slavetats script.

for some reason a domain field is required for the entry to be compared with the template

 

Line 411 of slavetats.psc

if is_tattoo(entry) && (domain == JMap.getStr(entry, "domain"))

 

after one simple change to sluts_livery.json it works fine now

 

{
                "subsystem": "livery",
                "body": "CBBE",
                "name": "Livery, Green (CBBE)",
                "area": "Body",
                "section": "SLUTS",
                "texture": "sluts_livery\\livery_cbbe_default.dds",
                "credit": "DocClox",
                "colorable": false,
                "domain": "Default" << add this
}

 

leaving this here in case anyone runs into the same problem

 

Great troubleshooting! You mentioned that you are using LE. I examined SlaveTats SE and that code seems to have changed quite a bit in the SE version, which would explain why folks on SE have not hit this issue.

[cerebus300]

6 hours ago, remodel said:

Nether should an animation free the PC from the cart following the animation.

This has been a problem for me for every version of SLUTS that I've played with (Redux and Resume). I can't make it through a run without some animation starting either because of rape or my character stopping to try to rub one out. It detaches the cart every time. 

[remodel]

6 hours ago, Scrab said:

Wut?

I dont even understand why and how you died there

My PC and Uthgerd became overwhelmed by arousal and went into an animation from Billyy's Animation [lesbian]. The animation detached the "livery" from my PC and she promptly died.  I can't tell you why she died, I just know how she died.  The mod that started the animation was Arousal Based MatchMaker based on SexLab Aroused.

 

The game loaded my last save before the haul.  My PC still had the tattoos in the reloaded save.

[BeenThere2]

S.L.U.T.S : I tried this 3 times and found it more interesting than expected. The major problems were with the cart she pulls. It kept breaking loose and was difficult to connect back, especially under attack. Otherwise it turned out to be quite fun trying to meet manifest requirements. In first-person view, I sometimes forgot it was a naked lady in bondage gear. I never got paid because of lost carts, and debts kept rising. I would really like to see this mod continue as it can be good (?) fun. Because of cart issues, my suggestion :

 

Dump the carts completely! No other real changes needed. Instead she should add to her body, all the same BD gear, a huge backpack, at each pickup site. Big, Big pack like special forces carry, could even have wheels under it. Instead of being a separate cart and its power she could be the convenient horses pony-girl. The items carried could be anything.

[Scrab]

 

11 hours ago, remodel said:

The animation detached the "livery" from my PC and she promptly died

Well.. that sounds like some hilariously bugged interaction somewhere but I cant help you if I dont know the exact reason why you died

You could try different mods to start animation if youre interested in figureing out the reason here but it sounds like theres something else going on in your game. Pretty sure if SLUTS would cause this there would be a lot more reports for this

 

6 hours ago, BeenThere2 said:

Dump the carts completely!

Denied

 

There are debug commands to force return the cart

 

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I started working on the NPC for SlutsHQ now. My first target of design will be the cannibalistic Orc & Cook of SLUTS HQ: Yagdo!

There will be 3 Quests for him (1 Radiant, 2 Unique) and hes one of the more important people in the HQs.. uh... "Lore", yay! 

 

I plan on writing out a proper character for all Secretaries and the Manager in SLUTS HQ, some (such as Yagdo and the Manager) will be treated a bit nicer than others but you will find all of them having at least some character to them. For the time being however, I will not voice them. I want to be done with the HQ next month and got a few othjer Projects that really want an Update, so I dont want/cant invest the time necessary to also voice everything

[nimawi]

i got an issue, once i start a delivery the cart just stays there....... i cant do anything with it and the ctrl+e or ctrl+space dont work either

[remodel]

9 hours ago, BeenThere2 said:

The major problems were with the cart she pulls. It kept breaking loose and was difficult to connect back, especially under attack.

Try Skyrim Priority - SKSE, I never had cart issues with it.  It flipped twice on me, and righted itself. I bounced it over large rocks. I had it go sideways many times going downhill.  I forced it thru too narrow entryways.  I had multiple hostile encounters.  The only attacks I didn't experience were vampires and dragons.  Never once did it break loose from movement.  It did break loose when an animation started and removed all the "livery", but that was not normal use.  I don't think the cart is a problem if it's given more CPU priority.

[cerebus300]

 

12 hours ago, BeenThere2 said:

Instead she should add to her body, all the same BD gear, a huge backpack, at each pickup site. Big, Big pack like special forces carry,

I've seen a number of people mention that, but I would really hate it. I like to see my character in her pony gear running across the continent. I don't want to watch a large sack bobbing across the landscape with some legs protruding from under it. I mean, without the eye-candy to go along with the activity, I don't think I would have any interest in engaging with the mod. I agree though, the cart is buggy (no pun intended). It always has been. I don't know if there is a fix for it. I still like the cart despite all the glitches. I wouldn't mind non-cart runs as well, I just don't want my character obscured by bulky baggage. 

[cerebus300]

5 hours ago, nimawi said:

start a delivery the cart just stays there....... i cant do anything with it and the ctrl+e or ctrl+space dont work

I've never had those commands work. I find that I just need to run without the cart and use the debug to bring it back when you reach your goal. But I don't know if that will work if it never attaches in the first place. Did you try to save the game and then reload from the main screen? That will usually reset the cart if you've become disconnected. 

[nimawi]

1 hour ago, cerebus300 said:

I've never had those commands work. I find that I just need to run without the cart and use the debug to bring it back when you reach your goal. But I don't know if that will work if it never attaches in the first place. Did you try to save the game and then reload from the main screen? That will usually reset the cart if you've become disconnected. 

i thought about doing that aswell but i kinda ruins the experience doesnt it?

In terms of reloading yeah i did that but it only places it near me and doesnt activate the actual tether