Maria Eden SE

[zaira]

If it crashes it is more likely that something is missing than something is superfluous.

You should think about using a mod manager 

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[Teddar]

Just got done trying out slave school. I didn't try out all the options but the system for choosing what you want to see works great and the options i picked worked. My owner came and picked me up but i had an issue right there as i couldn't get her to follow me after that. In the end i opted to get sold at auction. That part of the mod also appears to work fine. Went through an auction and got sold and delivered to a new owners premises with no issues. Right now the only thing i cant get to work is asking someone to whip me when the mistress orders me to. There is no option in the dialogue trees and no option to have a whipping scene in the sexlab animation picker even though i have ZaZ installed. Maybe i have the wrong ZaZ?. I'm using 8.0+

[zaira]

You have to kneel down with a whip in your hands - it is a special animation. Only then you can ask for being whipped

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[BigOnes69]

3 hours ago, zaira said:

It is not an update but a restart from scratch so lot of 1.0 features are missing. Defeat is on my plan, mining likely not

Naked Defeat is 100 percent more stable than Defeat you might look at that.

[Teddar]

1 hour ago, zaira said:

You have to kneel down with a whip in your hands - it is a special animation. Only then you can ask for being whipped

Ah, Ok. I think the issue that i have sometimes might be due to not being a German speaker. What i am doing is reading the subtitles in the translated version. That's fine most of the time, but the instructions that the Mistress gives could perhaps be more descriptive. That said, what can also happen is that as she is telling you what to do, a passerby will say something that overwrites the sub-titles before you get a chance to read what the Mistress is saying.

[zaira]

I might consider it - have to take a closer look first. I changed the paradigm of locks completely - neither a leash nor a restraint restricts the player anymore:

Locking the player does not make any sense because

• I can always cheat them away via console
• it leads to serious troubles if a scene sticks or something unexpected happens

So in most cases this does not lead to more immersion but more frustration. If finding a key is part of a quest - ok -  then it's acceptable, but search & unlock is completely out of scope in MEP.

Therefore I will likely not spend time in mod integration for mods that doesn't follow this paradigm or - even worse - interfere with MEP.

If Naked Defeat is a good candidate then I'll translate it, add voice support and integrate it. Otherwise I create an own much more lightweight version that fits better into the MEP gameplay.

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[zaira]

BTW: is the same with Prison Overhaul - once the main functions are stable enough I'll look for good integration candidates. PO provides a nice jail experience but the version I played long time ago had heavy lock mechanisms and therefore caused troubles in scene interruptions.

 

The leash solution  of MEP is an escort solution now. But even this causes sometimes problems because of poor path finding capabilities - sticks sometimes in stairways or small doors - this is why I made a cheat system that allows the player to repair such defects.

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[jc321]

Is there a way to (or going to be a way to) disable being prompted for sex animations or training selection? I'd rather like not knowing what was about to happen. 

 

Regarding locking of devices. Whilst I prefer that to happen I do like the mechanics whereby if you remove your collar you are told not to, and it's replaced. Maybe after a number of attempts then something more permanent happens?

 

[jc321]

1 hour ago, Teddar said:

Ah, Ok. I think the issue that i have sometimes might be due to not being a German speaker. What i am doing is reading the subtitles in the translated version. That's fine most of the time, but the instructions that the Mistress gives could perhaps be more descriptive.

 

Happy to refine the English descriptions if you know of particular instances where it doesn't read well. I know the brothel negotiation translation is pretty poor currently. I can update whenever the next version comes out. 

[zaira]

47 minutes ago, jc321 said:

Is there a way to (or going to be a way to) disable being prompted for sex animations

Yes - set randomsex to 1 in <skyrim>\Data\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData\MariaDefaults.json:

{
...
"int" : 
    {
        "randomsex" : 1,
        ...

 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[zaira]

49 minutes ago, jc321 said:

Is there a way to (or going to be a way to) disable being prompted for... training selection?

Not yet - I'll add a random option once the all training scenes are stable. Currently some of them might stick.

[zaira]

1 hour ago, jc321 said:

Whilst I prefer that to happen I do like the mechanics whereby if you remove your collar you are told not to, and it's replaced. Maybe after a number of attempts then something more permanent happens?

Well, the master will re-equip it ASAP - and you lose favour points whenever you don't do what your master want - there is a progression system in MEP. It is not yet complete but:

 

• On every disobedience the masters mood decreases from happy to neutral to angry - you can see that in his facial expression.
• If you disobey while the master is angry your relationship rank is decreased by one point.
• If you perform well the masters mood increases
• If you perform well while the master is happy your relationship rank is increased by one point until you reach 4 points (master loves you)

The relationship rank has an impact on:

• dialog options - for example if the master loves you he allows you to un-equip the collar and if you gain money he don't take away every septim (pocket money for slaves)
• tasks - some tasks are only started for obedient slaves, others only for dis-obedient slaves - for example slave training, sell to auction, sell to others
• marriage - a master who loves you might accept to become your spouse, a married master will never sell you (this is the only difference yet)

 

Mood and Relationship rank can be manually modified with the cheat system

 

BTW: performing well means to earn a lot of money for your master and finishing humiliating tasks successfully.

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[Teddar]

55 minutes ago, jc321 said:

 

Happy to refine the English descriptions if you know of particular instances where it doesn't read well. I know the brothel negotiation translation is pretty poor currently. I can update whenever the next version comes out. 

Well, i dont know more than a couple of words of German and so i dont know how much paraphrasing you might be doing. But i think it makes more sense with any translation to make it as accurate as possible. What i'm getting at is that when you receive your instructions to do something, those instructions need to be clear enough that there isn't too much ambiguity about what you need to do.  For example, at certain points, you're instructed to kneel and lick something up. There are like five different kneeling poses used in the mod and it can take a while to pick the one that the mod is looking for. If the dialogue was "get on your knees with your ass in the air and lick that up", you immediately know that you dont want the poses on your knees with your head up. If that makes any sense, lol. 

[zaira]

9 minutes ago, Teddar said:

Well, i dont know more than a couple of words of German

My plan is to document every quest - so this particular quest ("MEPWhipMe") gonna be explained later - I am currently finishing the sleep quest because I want a 24/7 quest coverage ASAP.

[zaira]

BTW: Player animation has an impact on a lot of dialogs - eg. you can convince everybody to become your master if you ask while kneeling, if you kneel on all fours you can ask every dog for doing some favors to you...

Edited June 12, 2021 by zaira

[Teddar]

6 minutes ago, zaira said:

BTW: Player animation has an impact on a lot of dialogs - eg. you can convince everybody to become your master if you ask while kneeling, if you kneel on all fours you can ask every dog for doing some favors to you...

Oh yeah, i think its great that you introduce so much variation and am looking forward to it!. Ive said it before elsewhere, you can only watch your favorite Sexlab animations so many times before it gets kinda stale. What makes for longevity is story, dialogue, variation, progression and interactions between the player and the NPC. I know we're not reading a book here, its a game. But realizing that there is a reason for whats going on and whats being done to you, even if that reason is that your Mistress sees you as a way to make easy money and not as a person is what keeps me engaged. Its about story, and the rape and pillage enhances that story if its done right. 

[Samson Nite]

I don't have SD+, I turned off Alternate Start and DDi too. But, still could not start the new game.......

[zaira]

3 minutes ago, ssamsbji said:

I don't have SD+, I turned off Alternate Start and DDi too. But, still could not start the new game.......

Please check the mod dependency list and installation guide - it is really necessary!

[Kharadin]

3 hours ago, zaira said:

BTW: is the same with Prison Overhaul - once the main functions are stable enough I'll look for good integration candidates. PO provides a nice jail experience but the version I played long time ago had heavy lock mechanisms and therefore caused troubles in scene interruptions.

There's another mod that is being developed, besides POP, for prison overhaul, with a goal to create a modular prison system, like SS or Daymol. It is in beta too for now though.

[jc321]

3 hours ago, Teddar said:

Ah, Ok. I think the issue that i have sometimes might be due to not being a German speaker. What i am doing is reading the subtitles in the translated version. That's fine most of the time, but the instructions that the Mistress gives could perhaps be more descriptive. That said, what can also happen is that as she is telling you what to do, a passerby will say something that overwrites the sub-titles before you get a chance to read what the Mistress is saying.

 

I've just played that scene. If you use the pose under slave actions -> kneel cane low (something like that) you kneel with cane in hand and then you can talk to the NPC .. You might need to talk a few times as they auto respond with comments, then you will get the dialogue. You'll need to go back to mistress to say you can't complete and she'll ask try offering something and when you next talk (using same pose) you'll get additional lines. 

 

You can appear to cheat and just say you've done it, and show your whip marks and quest completes. I don't know if that's based on already having whip marks or just not checking. 

 

 

[Teddar]

3 hours ago, jc321 said:

 

I've just played that scene. If you use the pose under slave actions -> kneel cane low (something like that) you kneel with cane in hand and then you can talk to the NPC .. You might need to talk a few times as they auto respond with comments, then you will get the dialogue. You'll need to go back to mistress to say you can't complete and she'll ask try offering something and when you next talk (using same pose) you'll get additional lines. 

 

You can appear to cheat and just say you've done it, and show your whip marks and quest completes. I don't know if that's based on already having whip marks or just not checking. 

 

 

You know what. I think i looked under slave actions and didn't see it but i'm betting i didn't have the cane equipped at the time. I'll try that again later. Thanks!

[seriphim]

Awesome mod, but I don't speak German, are there any translation mods out there? or a way to get the subtitles to come up in English (I feel like I've seen references to this on this board but cant seem to work it out in game). 

 

Also side note, couldn't see an MCM menu (but not sure whether that was intentional and cant say it caused me any issues, just thought id mention it,).

 

glad to see this mod is still being worked on, its one of my favourites i've played it since the original. 

[zaira]

1 hour ago, seriphim said:

Also side note, couldn't see an MCM

There is no MCM - MEP is configured via json files and in-game menus. I don't waste time for creating and maintaining a UI for options that every player basically change once (or more likely never) - it does not make sense.

 

1 hour ago, seriphim said:

since the original

this is the original

Edited June 13, 2021 by zaira

[Teddar]

7 hours ago, zaira said:

this is the original

Perhaps he mean't...since the first version. ?

[Teddar]

8 hours ago, seriphim said:

Awesome mod, but I don't speak German, are there any translation mods out there? or a way to get the subtitles to come up in English (I feel like I've seen references to this on this board but cant seem to work it out in game). 

 

Also side note, couldn't see an MCM menu (but not sure whether that was intentional and cant say it caused me any issues, just thought id mention it,).

 

glad to see this mod is still being worked on, its one of my favourites i've played it since the original. 

There are translated files a page or two back courtesy of jc321. You dont need an MCN. You can change things with the wheel menu or by changing things in the json files as Zaira has pointed. out. ?