SexLab Confabulation (September 16, 2020)

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Did you change how the Dark Brotherhood startup works?  I forgot to talk to Astrid after getting the first three contracts, but was able to use sex to kill them anyway, even though I hadn't had sex with Astrid and Arnbjorn.  I'm worried that future quests might not let me.  I have a save before getting to the Sanctuary but its older than I'd like, want to avoid reverting to it if possible.

[Narcolepsy]

8 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Did you change how the Dark Brotherhood startup works?  I forgot to talk to Astrid after getting the first three contracts, but was able to use sex to kill them anyway, even though I hadn't had sex with Astrid and Arnbjorn.  I'm worried that future quests might not let me.  I have a save before getting to the Sanctuary but its older than I'd like, want to avoid reverting to it if possible.

Dark Brotherhood hasn't been touched at all since it was last covered. You might have turned the option on in the MCM. As long as it is toggled, then the other parts of the quest line should work. If it is not toggled, you should still be able to talk to her or Arnbjorn and complete it that way.

[karlpaws]

10 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

That sounds like a problem from either one of the listed mods, or maybe the combination of them. I noticed when resolving the conflicts that Thieves Guild for Good Guys and Thieves Guild Requirements had several conflicts and both edited the same scripts.

 

Are you using the patch for Thieves Guild for Good Guys? For that I have forwarded that mods and this mods edits to the Fishing Job quest. If you try without the patch you should just get the vanilla Fishing Quest with this mod's sex options available.

I am using the patch, and since it did work later I'm guessing as you did that it was part of the problem created by the other mods letting you take all of the missions. Like I said that had happened before, and I was posting in case someone else had it happen so they would make sure it was your mod that was causing similar problems.

 

All I really have to do now is figure out which SLAL pack isn't working because I don't have 3-5p skeever anims, and I used to have them.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I think I broke something in the DB questline.   I killed Alaine DuFont the old fashioned way 'cause I wanted to use Muiri's poison.  But I didn't kill Nilsine, 'cause I feel bad for the family.   But when I went back to Muiri, she just kept repeating her lines about "Is he dead? Ok but she's still alive so here's your money for him but none for her..."  etc etc.  But no money changed hands and speaking to her again just gives the same result.  So, I setstaged DB03 to 200 to end it, didn't really care about the money.  However, getting back to the Sanctuary, Astrid has nothing new to say to me, and Nazir doesn't have new contracts to give me.  Not sure what I should do next to jumpstart the next steps.

 

The next quest should be Whispers In The Dark, that Astrid is supposed to forcegreet me about I think.  I'll try setstaging db04 and see if I can kick it into gear.

 

Edit:  Had to setstage db04 0 first, because stage one was 1 already but stage zero wasn't.  Doing that moved the Night Mother's coffin into position, or at least removed teh box she came in from the main area.  then I set stage one to 1 again, nothing happened, Astrid still had nothing new to say to me.  But setting stage ten started the quest officially and now she tells me to go hide in the coffin as if she already gave her speech.  Which is fine, now I can keep going.  But I'm still not sure what broke everything to start with.

[Narcolepsy]

1 hour ago, karlpaws said:

All I really have to do now is figure out which SLAL pack isn't working because I don't have 3-5p skeever anims, and I used to have them.

I know Billy's Creature Pack 1 has 3p - 5p Skeever anims, his new one might have a few 3p as well. Anubis has at least one 4p skeever anim I think.

 

53 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I think I broke something in the DB questline.   I killed Alaine DuFont the old fashioned way 'cause I wanted to use Muiri's poison.  But I didn't kill Nilsine, 'cause I feel bad for the family.   But when I went back to Muiri, she just kept repeating her lines about "Is he dead? Ok but she's still alive so here's your money for him but none for her..."  etc etc.  But no money changed hands and speaking to her again just gives the same result.  So, I setstaged DB03 to 200 to end it, didn't really care about the money.  However, getting back to the Sanctuary, Astrid has nothing new to say to me, and Nazir doesn't have new contracts to give me.  Not sure what I should do next to jumpstart the next steps.

 

The next quest should be Whispers In The Dark, that Astrid is supposed to forcegreet me about I think.  I'll try setstaging db04 and see if I can kick it into gear.

 

Edit:  Had to setstage db04 0 first, because stage one was 1 already but stage zero wasn't.  Doing that moved the Night Mother's coffin into position, or at least removed teh box she came in from the main area.  then I set stage one to 1 again, nothing happened, Astrid still had nothing new to say to me.  But setting stage ten started the quest officially and now she tells me to go hide in the coffin as if she already gave her speech.  Which is fine, now I can keep going.  But I'm still not sure what broke everything to start with.

I'm not sure what happened, but this mod doesn't alter any of the quest ending conditions or starts to the DB. The only thing it does is either add new dialogue or extend on existing ones. For Muiri, I've only added onto her dialogue that appears when you kill both. So if you kill only Alaine, then her dialogue is not touched by this mod at all.

 

Also with the Guilds, when you end a quest using console, you have to also start up the next quest with console. This can be a bit problematic, cause Skyrim has a lot of behind the scenes helper quests that may also get started and ended without you knowing about it.

[AnubiSs2167]

The "vermintide" anim doesn't work that well since baka change skeever noodle dick to huge knoted ones, i bet it clips like hell. ?

[Krawllin]

Hello bro, love your mod so mach.
Can I translate your mod to Chinese forum? (9damaomods)
I will indecate the original mod link.
Thx a lot.?

[Narcolepsy]

11 hours ago, Krawllin said:

Hello bro, love your mod so mach.
Can I translate your mod to Chinese forum? (9damaomods)
I will indecate the original mod link.
Thx a lot.?

Sure go ahead.

[RageChaser]

Hi Narco!

 

Loving your mod! 

 

I generally prefer to play as a straight male character, so I haven't been able to experience all of your mod yet. Would it be possible to implement a system where we could have our female followers perform the sex instead of us for some/ all of these situations? 

 

In any case, thanks for everything!

[reae]

Hello Narco,

Great mod, thumbs up.

One observation so far:

Skeevers part is failing to find eligible actors (skeevers) for more, than 2p anims. Our friendly cave dweller needs more company, so we can have more company.

 

Two ideas:

1. Option for a bit darker theme. Becoming toy of the Guild would be automatic after finishing two out of three quests (Goldenglow, Meadery and/ or Sload) in not-so-thiefly-manner.

2. Consequences of becoming cumdump of the Guild. That's not a position to run around and ask for sex, more like being happy to be able to run around after all that sex. Forcegreets etc. , or even lightweight slavery.

Both as option, so there is still that bit of a cheerful mood.

Cheers.

[smugmegumin]

On 2/21/2020 at 9:39 AM, Narcolepsy said:

 

 

first, I love this mod. I haven't had much issue with it so I made a new character so I could enjoy this mod. I did encounter the issue with force greet with the dainty sload,( that others mentioned) not a big issue and I just beat the quest and proceeded along with the questline. I updated to the current version(April 1st update) and today I finished the questline. This glitch I encountered hasn't been mentioned yet so I don't know if its only me with this issue, but when Bryn gives his speech and the naughty cumdump scenes are about to play, nothing happens. Everyone in the cistern is staying still and I can't speak with Bryn, Karliah, Vex, or Delvin(I get the this person is busy notification). I waited and nothing happened so I left to the flagon and then the first scene happens but I'm the only person visible. If I stay in the flagon, the scenes continue and I'm still the only visible person in the scenes. I wasn't sure what the problem was but I toggled my crowd spectator mod off cuz I thought it would cause problems since it may cause people around my character to do naughty things cuz they get aroused. Unfortunately that didn't fix the issue. I tried letting one scene happen in the flagon and return to the cistern to see if the other scenes would happen there. Only one scene happened once(I tried this multiple times) and then no more would happen after. So I let all scenes happen in the flagon with only my character visible. After that I went to talk to Bryn to proceed the quest and I saw everyone in the cistern stuck in sex animations( more like stuck in a pose from the animations themselves) with clothes on and talking like normal. Funny to see that and I continued on to claim my guild master armor from tonilia in the flagon. Returned to the cistern and people were still stuck in poses except Niruin I tried waiting to see if they would go back to normal. Their locations changed, but poses didn't. I exited to riften, made a new save outside and then returned inside and everyone was back to normal. In short, issues occurred and I let them continue until it fixed itself. I still have a save inside the cistern before all this to test it further to fix the issue. Not sure what mods I have or lack thereof that caused this. I have solutions and the patch and this mod, but I dont have any thieves guild mods like others mentioned. I haven't done DB quests or daedric quests that this mod affects so I don't know if that might be the issue. Sorry for the long post btw. 

[sissykat]

Really like the mod though having a bit of a bug. 

Playing on special edition with version 1.5.1.

Hamelyn and the skeevers aren't neutral and I'm not getting the force greet even if I turn off the combat AI. Also took a look in SSEEdit and it doesn't look like anything is overwriting this mod, so I'm at a bit of a loss. 

[Narcolepsy]

8 hours ago, jordayne said:

Hi Narco!

 

Loving your mod! 

 

I generally prefer to play as a straight male character, so I haven't been able to experience all of your mod yet. Would it be possible to implement a system where we could have our female followers perform the sex instead of us for some/ all of these situations? 

 

In any case, thanks for everything!

I can try to add this in after I've finished with the Companions, however it may take some time as it will probably require a re-write/re-working of my handler script.

5 hours ago, reae said:

Hello Narco,

Great mod, thumbs up.

One observation so far:

Skeevers part is failing to find eligible actors (skeevers) for more, than 2p anims. Our friendly cave dweller needs more company, so we can have more company.

 

Two ideas:

1. Option for a bit darker theme. Becoming toy of the Guild would be automatic after finishing two out of three quests (Goldenglow, Meadery and/ or Sload) in not-so-thiefly-manner.

2. Consequences of becoming cumdump of the Guild. That's not a position to run around and ask for sex, more like being happy to be able to run around after all that sex. Forcegreets etc. , or even lightweight slavery.

Both as option, so there is still that bit of a cheerful mood.

Cheers.

I can check again later, but for the skeevers part I'm only calling for any animations that fit the requirements (3p, 4p, 5p). I have already selected the actors from the skeevers in the room, so if any are dead then you won't be able to see the anims most likely. If they are alive then the problem is probably with SexLab not recognizing the registered anims.

 

I was thinking of having the members forcegreet you and ask for sex, but to do so randomly would require several constantly running scripts I think, which I would like to avoid. I can see about coming back to this later on.

2 hours ago, smugmegumin said:

first, I love this mod. I haven't had much issue with it so I made a new character so I could enjoy this mod. I did encounter the issue with force greet with the dainty sload,( that others mentioned) not a big issue and I just beat the quest and proceeded along with the questline. I updated to the current version(April 1st update) and today I finished the questline. This glitch I encountered hasn't been mentioned yet so I don't know if its only me with this issue, but when Bryn gives his speech and the naughty cumdump scenes are about to play, nothing happens. Everyone in the cistern is staying still and I can't speak with Bryn, Karliah, Vex, or Delvin(I get the this person is busy notification). I waited and nothing happened so I left to the flagon and then the first scene happens but I'm the only person visible. If I stay in the flagon, the scenes continue and I'm still the only visible person in the scenes. I wasn't sure what the problem was but I toggled my crowd spectator mod off cuz I thought it would cause problems since it may cause people around my character to do naughty things cuz they get aroused. Unfortunately that didn't fix the issue. I tried letting one scene happen in the flagon and return to the cistern to see if the other scenes would happen there. Only one scene happened once(I tried this multiple times) and then no more would happen after. So I let all scenes happen in the flagon with only my character visible. After that I went to talk to Bryn to proceed the quest and I saw everyone in the cistern stuck in sex animations( more like stuck in a pose from the animations themselves) with clothes on and talking like normal. Funny to see that and I continued on to claim my guild master armor from tonilia in the flagon. Returned to the cistern and people were still stuck in poses except Niruin I tried waiting to see if they would go back to normal. Their locations changed, but poses didn't. I exited to riften, made a new save outside and then returned inside and everyone was back to normal. In short, issues occurred and I let them continue until it fixed itself. I still have a save inside the cistern before all this to test it further to fix the issue. Not sure what mods I have or lack thereof that caused this. I have solutions and the patch and this mod, but I dont have any thieves guild mods like others mentioned. I haven't done DB quests or daedric quests that this mod affects so I don't know if that might be the issue. Sorry for the long post btw. 

Dainty Sload was removed in latest update, it was too buggy to keep in. Can you tell me at what point the scene breaks? Does everyone move closer and does Bryn start the dialogue. Is it just the sex that is not working? For that I'm building off the vanilla scene that is already in place for TGLeadership quest. When the sex starts I'm using global variables to progress the dialogue after each sex act.

34 minutes ago, sissykat said:

Really like the mod though having a bit of a bug. 

Playing on special edition with version 1.5.1.

Hamelyn and the skeevers aren't neutral and I'm not getting the force greet even if I turn off the combat AI. Also took a look in SSEEdit and it doesn't look like anything is overwriting this mod, so I'm at a bit of a loss. 

For Hamelyn and the skeevers to be neutral you have to enter a triggerbox when traveling through the tunnels into the cave. 

[smugmegumin]

1 hour ago, Narcolepsy said:

Dainty Sload was removed in latest update, it was too buggy to keep in. Can you tell me at what point the scene breaks? Does everyone move closer and does Bryn start the dialogue. Is it just the sex that is not working? For that I'm building off the vanilla scene that is already in place for TGLeadership quest. When the sex starts I'm using global variables to progress the dialogue after each sex act.

When I had spectator crowds mod toggled on Bryn gives his short speech and when he started the dialogue prior to the sex it appeared for a sec and vanished and no one moved closer and no sex. With the spectator mod off the dialogue didn't disappear as fast and people walked closer, but no sex until I leave the area and go to the flagon which then leads to the sex scenes but with only me visible. So basically, the sex doesn't work in the cistern for whatever reason. I'm going to test it out more right now to see any changes that may occur.

 

[smugmegumin]

1 hour ago, smugmegumin said:

When I had spectator crowds mod toggled on Bryn gives his short speech and when he started the dialogue prior to the sex it appeared for a sec and vanished and no one moved closer and no sex. With the spectator mod off the dialogue didn't disappear as fast and people walked closer, but no sex until I leave the area and go to the flagon which then leads to the sex scenes but with only me visible. So basically, the sex doesn't work in the cistern for whatever reason. I'm going to test it out more right now to see any changes that may occur.

 

Ok so I think I fixed it. With my spectator mod toggled off and fuz ro d'oh updated to v.1.7 cuz I realized that the dialogue disappearing too fast is probably the real issue(I'm a dumbass for not knowing I needed to update fuz). After updating fuz, I tested it and for the first time for the cumdump scenes I actually saw the whole dialogue that Bryn says after the speech and the first scene was about to start and my game froze. That's some progress though so yeah.

[Narcolepsy]

As I'm working on the Companion quest line, I wanted to get an idea of what mods people are using that might conflict with the Companions, so that I can be a bit ahead of the issues that might occur. So far I have only made edits to Kodlak's intro dialogue. All other dialogue is seperate from vanilla and self contained in this mod.

 

I already know about ESF - Companions, and have a patch I am working on as I go.

 

Troubles of Heroine also has Companion stuff. I don't know if others would like a patch for this and I'm not sure how to integrate both mods together, as they take different approaches to the Companions. Maybe a toggle to turn ToH content on/off.

 

Anything else out there I might need to patch?

[Silk]

The only ones that I am using are The companions - Earn your stripes (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13965) which slows down the progress of the quest line so you becoming part of the inner circle isn't so abrupt and quick, and the other is Improved companions - Questline tweaks (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22300) which allows you to avoid becoming a warewolf and a few other bits and bobs.

Must be noted that I haven't tried these ones out just yet - they are there in my load order for when I feel the urge to do a companions story again. Will happily delete them in favour of confabulation

[sissykat]

A Troubles of Heroine patch would be appreciated. 

[Guest]

ye i use troubles as well, would be nice to have a patch

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Thought of a new place that could use some sprucing up... after you rebuild the Blades, it'd be cool to have celebratory sex after slaying a dragon together.  Could be individually or 3 way or 4 way. 

[Narcolepsy]

Has anyone tried out the TG Reparations quest and gotten through the scene? Same with the Guild master ceremony, anyone gotten through without issues?

[Krawllin]

3 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

Has anyone tried out the TG Reparations quest and gotten through the scene? Same with the Guild master ceremony, anyone gotten through without issues?

I tried it only one time, it's looks like no problem, but I don't trigger 4p or 5p events. (Sorry my English is bad...hopefully you can know what I mean.)

[Naps-On-Dirt]

6 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

Has anyone tried out the TG Reparations quest and gotten through the scene? Same with the Guild master ceremony, anyone gotten through without issues?

I got through the Guildmaster Cumdump scene with no problems.

[Narcolepsy]

6 hours ago, Krawllin said:

I tried it only one time, it's looks like no problem, but I don't trigger 4p or 5p events. (Sorry my English is bad...hopefully you can know what I mean.)

Was it because you didn't have 4p or 5p anims installed or some other issue?

 

2 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I got through the Guildmaster Cumdump scene with no problems.

Okay, it seems I can proceed with more scenes then if it worked out alright.

[Chegoz]

I had an issue with the Thieves guild leadership scene too, though mine got through the Bryn, Delvin scene and then the Vex scene but following that nothing happens, people just stand there and do nothing.