Troubles of Heroine

[PRSTUV]

6 hours ago, DSHV said:

Conditions to start: Real and False Heroes not started, Dragon Rising's quest stage >=160 (after you speak with Jarl Balgruuf after the dragon's kill). Maybe a quicksave and quickload before the Jarl help?

Ok, It was different before. The first thing I did in Whiterun before is to take False Dragonborn as a follower (one of the best - can use magic). Although I play Skyrim better than 2 years ago when I started, so it is easier without a follower.

[Alturistix]

@DSHV There is nothing separating False and Real Heroes (False Dragonborn one) from the Real and False Heroes quest. That is, a female PC can trigger both quests. Is this intended or were female MCs only supposed to trigger Real and False Heroes quest?

[DSHV]

12 hours ago, PRSTUV said:

Ok, It was different before.

 

11 hours ago, Alturistix said:

There is nothing separating False and Real Heroes (False Dragonborn one)

I thought it would be strange if the false Dragonborn will judge the false Dragonborn. Female Dragonborn can judge her first and then become foul liar.

[The Lord]

On 1/6/2022 at 11:55 AM, DSHV said:

Uncertain plans:

 

Civil Whore - Personal whore of generals and fallen Jarls;
Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore;
Artano - Slave Delphina;
More Falsk Venn;

You had written this some time before finalising the latest update. What exactly were you planning for "Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore"?

[Oyhuria]

Cant talk to molag grunda, tried reloading save and killing her. Anyways i can just use console commands to start her quest/dialogues?

[DSHV]

21 hours ago, The Lord said:

What exactly were you planning for "Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore"?

Jarl Elisif the Fair thinks that PC is too immaculate, so she replaces her with a dragonwhore, "proper woman", who are feminine and ready to satisfy men. Or just train PC to be that way. Or it can be male Dragonborn replaced by female "real" Dragonborn.

9 hours ago, Oyhuria said:

Cant talk to molag grunda, tried reloading save and killing her.

Her conditions are her and quest AAAOurCommonFather == 10. Setstage AAAOurCommonFather 10 (also 11 and 20)? Maybe some mod blocks her race dialogues? Can putting TOH to the bottom of your modlist help?

[The Lord]

2 hours ago, DSHV said:

Jarl Elisif the Fair thinks that PC is too immaculate, so she replaces her with a dragonwhore, "proper woman", who are feminine and ready to satisfy men. Or just train PC to be that way. Or it can be male Dragonborn replaced by female "real" Dragonborn.

Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate?

 

Would you simply take the already existent Dragonwhore or female "real" Dragonborn and tie them into it? Were you planning to basically copy what is currently there for the male "real" Dragonborn and see what would fit for a female one as well, filling whatever holes come up with new events or ones borrowed from your other quests? Or did you mean to write new quests specifically for this? What are the differences in character you thought about so far for the female "real" Dragonborn when compared to the male "real" Dragonborn as we currently have him? Will there be overlap with the Doppelganger or similar characters as a result?

 

Edit:

If you wanted to integrate the current Dragonwhore you could do that by adding onto her content when you encouraged her to become a bit more dominant and forceful. Maybe she thinks it'd be a good idea to practice her newfound composure in front of a larger audience. Hearing about Jarl Elisif being maybe a bit naive but also respecting women way more than many of the male Jarls, she thinks she could actually play the part of female Dragonborn at the Solitude court. She convinces you to escort her there and that's when things start going bad for the PC (or good, depending on how you look at it), with the Dragonwhore successfully wooing the court and making them believe you're nothing but her bodyguard/servant/housecarl.

If you wanted to integrate the current female "real" Dragonborn, you could provide an option where, after Balgruuf told you about her and you go meet her she requests you take her to the Solitude court to prove that she was a good influence and helped people. At the Solitude court, she'd then turn the tables on you, claiming that you tried to impersonate her and act as though you were the Dragonborn. Things could then become similar to how tha male "real" Dragonborn treats the PC, asserting dominance, making sure everyone truly believes she is the real Dragonborn etc.

Edited March 11, 2022 by The Lord

[DSHV]

2 hours ago, The Lord said:

Could you elaborate?

It's just an idea (not even mine) and I've told it all. But as I imagine it would be a separate quest with a separate NPC. Just gender-bender Real and False Heroes.

[The Lord]

41 minutes ago, DSHV said:

It's just an idea (not even mine) and I've told it all. But as I imagine it would be a separate quest with a separate NPC. Just gender-bender Real and False Heroes.

Okay. Looking forward to it then, if you decide to tackle it.

[pipaxing]

19 hours ago, The Lord said:

Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate?

 

Would you simply take the already existent Dragonwhore or female "real" Dragonborn and tie them into it? Were you planning to basically copy what is currently there for the male "real" Dragonborn and see what would fit for a female one as well, filling whatever holes come up with new events or ones borrowed from your other quests? Or did you mean to write new quests specifically for this? What are the differences in character you thought about so far for the female "real" Dragonborn when compared to the male "real" Dragonborn as we currently have him? Will there be overlap with the Doppelganger or similar characters as a result?

 

Edit:

If you wanted to integrate the current Dragonwhore you could do that by adding onto her content when you encouraged her to become a bit more dominant and forceful. Maybe she thinks it'd be a good idea to practice her newfound composure in front of a larger audience. Hearing about Jarl Elisif being maybe a bit naive but also respecting women way more than many of the male Jarls, she thinks she could actually play the part of female Dragonborn at the Solitude court. She convinces you to escort her there and that's when things start going bad for the PC (or good, depending on how you look at it), with the Dragonwhore successfully wooing the court and making them believe you're nothing but her bodyguard/servant/housecarl.

If you wanted to integrate the current female "real" Dragonborn, you could provide an option where, after Balgruuf told you about her and you go meet her she requests you take her to the Solitude court to prove that she was a good influence and helped people. At the Solitude court, she'd then turn the tables on you, claiming that you tried to impersonate her and act as though you were the Dragonborn. Things could then become similar to how tha male "real" Dragonborn treats the PC, asserting dominance, making sure everyone truly believes she is the real Dragonborn etc.

Haha, actually this is my suggestion to add a female Real Dragonborn. Your idea is better and more interesting. Both of them. Humiliate PC in court publically and take the identity as a Dragonborn. Actually I think Doppelganger could do this,too. 

[janedynamite]

what up DSHV, just wondering if the voicepack from project Echo is still compatible with the lastest version, thanks

[killer905]

7 hours ago, janedynamite said:

what up DSHV, just wondering if the voicepack from project Echo is still compatible with the lastest version, thanks

It still works, but does not support the new content.

[Lilu45]

Подскажите id квеста "Демонстрация модели" который выдает Катрина Шовен. Не могу пройти Грима, ГГ впадает в ступор навсегда когда выпивает зелье Грима. И когда Грим изнасилует ГГ она потом улетает за приделы Забытого сожаления, и остается в этой пустоте в парализованом состоянии.

[DSHV]

21 hours ago, Lilu45 said:

Подскажите id квеста "Демонстрация модели" который выдает Катрина Шовен.

При выпивании зелья наступает паралич, который проходит через 10 секунд. А секс начинается через 13 секунд. Эффект паралича часто багует. Можно попробовать пропустить стадии с setstage AAATOHModelShow 35 (или 40).

[xyzxyz]

The second quest of "High rock princess" was way too short. You enter your manor talk with her, talk with Jordis, have sex with the princess once, go back to Elisif, done. Took me like 2 min. Some more sex would have been apppropriate. Player with Jordis or Jordis with guard as demonstration for example.

[xyzxyz]

During the "Invitation" quest with the wolves the sex option for 2 wolves doesn't work for me. I have 3p canine animations but the wolves always have some actor thread problem. Single wolf or werewolves work fine.

[killer905]

5 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

The second quest of "High rock princess" was way too short. You enter your manor talk with her, talk with Jordis, have sex with the princess once, go back to Elisif, done. Took me like 2 min. Some more sex would have been apppropriate. Player with Jordis or Jordis with guard as demonstration for example.

The original idea of something like this was that the princess must be present for the sexual act with PC and Jordis, Jordis and her guard, PC and her guard (if we play as female).

 

Condition when Princess are in PC home:

<At this point Edannciene must be around when Jordis with her guard has sex or with you (If PC is male) or (if player is female sex with her guard) (4 times?)>

 

Posted here:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/130300-troubles-of-heroine/page/158/#comment-3600345

Edited March 15, 2022 by killer905

[xyzxyz]

6 minutes ago, killer905 said:

The original idea of something like this was that the princess must be present for the sexual act with PC and Jordis, Jordis and her guard, PC and her guard (if we play as female).

 

Condition when Princess are in PC home:

<At this point Edannciene must be around when Jordis with her guard has sex or with you (If PC is male) or (if player is female sex with her guard) (4 times?)>

 

Posted here:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/130300-troubles-of-heroine/page/158/#comment-3600345

Sadly the last dialogue with Elisif never made it^^

[killer905]

4 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Sadly the last dialogue with Elisif never made it^^

Elisif also sad.

[DSHV]

On 3/15/2022 at 11:22 PM, killer905 said:

Elisif also sad.

I just did it already at the Bards College, decided not to repeat myself. 

That time I tried to do an update without editing the texts offered to me. Just read a part, implement and repeat.

 

While I'm working on POS, I've written a Tapasvee's little backstory. Warning: it's cruel. Tapasvee’s Memory Stone at the monk:

Spoiler

Textbox: You see a feast, where Tapasvee’s royal family serves at tables or under tables and chairs. Her beloved mother sing under cruel incessant whipping by several torturers. She sings the praises of the usurpers and insults to her family. During gratitude for torture, huge spiked metal bolts inserted inside her ass and vagina, so she can't have children anymore. Her lingering note turns into a groan of barely contained pain. She's in physical and mental agony. Tapasvee’s supportive sister in the form of a jester shows all her ass and jokes degradingly about herself. Tapasvee’s kind grandfather sits on a chain and grinds the bones of his ancestors. Tapasvee licks ass and suck dick, mumbling thanks as the mother said, of a torturer, who torturing her strong father. Later her family member were sent in different directions: cattle’s toilets, mines, public torture entertainments, slaves of slaves, for breeding, so tortures of her kind never ended. Tapasvee, as the most beloved by the people princess, was sent to Order. It was the worst them all.

 

Edited March 17, 2022 by DSHV
Grammar

[killer905]

Ok, you are the boss. ^^

[clesh]

Is it possible to switch between the merged version back to the seperate versions? as now the merged version is not being updated

[DSHV]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:01 AM, clesh2311 said:

Is it possible to switch between the merged version back to the seperate versions?

I haven't tried it, but they are presumably different mods with different ids. Better make a hard save before trying. This may work well or cause minor bugs or even break the game.

[crococat]

On 3/19/2022 at 3:01 AM, clesh2311 said:

Is it possible to switch between the merged version back to the seperate versions? as now the merged version is not being updated

I had tried far ago. Your quests from addons will be broken. Anyway cleaning must be done.

The best is clean all TOH including main from game and start all quests from zero.

[gregaaz]

Hi folks, @DSHV, I went to upgrade from 2.3 to 2.4.1 and while I reviewed the mod in xEdit I received a number of error warnings. Some of them are missing tint layers, which should be fairly benign, but I did observe the following:

 

[00:00] Checking for Errors in [C5] troublesofheroine.esp
[00:02] ArenaDoor [REFR:C5084735] (places ImpJailDoor01 "Door" [DOOR:00040BB2] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of AAAFightClub "Arena" [CELL:C50846FB])
[00:02]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [C508470C] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:02]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [C508470D] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:02] [INFO:C50266BB] ('You eat a lot, I don't get anything. You are as fat as a whale. Now, this should hold back your irrepressible gluttony.' in GRUP Topic Children of AAACharityOrdersTopic "Do you need anything?" [DIAL:C50266B6])
[00:02]     INFO \ Conditions \ Condition \ CTDA - CTDA \ Parameter #1 -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,COBJ,FLST,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,SCRL,SLGM,WEAP
[00:06] AAAPriceofFame "Price of Fame" [QUST:C5003F98]
[00:06]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAPriceofFame "Price of Fame" [QUST:C5003F98]">
[00:06] AAABadBitchQuest "Estrous Cycle" [QUST:C5014CC9]
[00:06]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAABadBitchQuest "Estrous Cycle" [QUST:C5014CC9]">
[00:06] AAAGaronaQuest "Bookbarian" [QUST:C500E93D]
[00:06]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAGaronaQuest "Bookbarian" [QUST:C500E93D]">
[00:06] AAACarvainQuest "Corruption" [QUST:C501155C]
[00:06]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAACarvainQuest "Corruption" [QUST:C501155C]">
[00:06] AAAFalskVennQuest "Friendship Bonds" [QUST:C50165AB]
[00:06]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAFalskVennQuest "Friendship Bonds" [QUST:C50165AB]">

[00:07] Checking for Errors in [C8] troublesofheroineDG.esp
[00:07] DLC1VCGargoyleTrackerRef001 [REFR:C800F769] (places TrapLinker "Trap Linker" [ACTI:00079986] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of AAAGargoyleHall "Gargoyle Hall" [CELL:C800F647])
[00:07]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [C800F76A] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:07] Checking for Errors in [FE 2E9] troublesofheroine_Voices1.esp
[00:07] Done: Checking for Errors, Processed Records: 33126, Errors found: 34, Elapsed Time: 00:07

 

Can you offer any guidance on the best way to fix these issues?