Troubles of Heroine

[crococat]

Just thoughts. Like this mod, but some forced events and consequences must be present in mod about humilation. For example:

In Lydia Fighting quests there are dialog options to repeat things someday, but she never do this. Is it real to add some forced radiant events to her? Maybe on location change, entering sities, guilds, inns or camps?

After guards party why they immediately forgot it? Is it real to add some events to them, maybe on entering guardhouses, prisons or palaces?

Riverwood trader having contract on full body does nothing to cheating PC. Is it real to add forced events to traders when contract is working?

[TFK23]

Is it safe to update this mod mid playthrough? currently using 2.3.4

[DSHV]

19 hours ago, crococat said:

Is it real to add some forced radiant events to her?

Yes, I thought about it. To do this, I need to make a separate quest with more variables to add variety. I can think about it. Also any ideas about fighting other sins?

1 hour ago, TFK23 said:

Is it safe to update this mod mid playthrough? currently using 2.3.4

I haven't changed or removed anything, just added, so it should work.

I have one question: TOH version for Skyblivion. Should I start thinking about it? I have ideas, of course, about Mazoga and Yushi, female worshiper of Molag Bal.

[Emulators]

Hi. Nice mod and quests. Something needs to be improved tho. I play as male heterosexual character and its really hard turn down when you approach someone and they get excited about your breasts or pussy. Some better PC gender detection or selection would be good in this mod. something like ''Go in mcm, select PC gender and it auto enable compatible quests for gender selected''.

[lPalpatinel]

14 hours ago, DSHV said:

Yes, I thought about it. To do this, I need to make a separate quest with more variables to add variety. I can think about it. Also any ideas about fighting other sins?

I haven't changed or removed anything, just added, so it should work.

I have one question: TOH version for Skyblivion. Should I start thinking about it? I have ideas, of course, about Mazoga and Yushi, female worshiper of Molag Bal.

is skyblivion about to launch? well, you can also do a remake of oblivion lovers for skyoblivion as it is also a remake.

On 3/3/2022 at 7:48 AM, DSHV said:

Thank you. It will be more difficult for me to do one quest if it are 2 quests for men and for women. I usually write a phrase for female X/a phrase for male Y. Could you for male part highlight only new and changed text?

With scripts, but I have no idea how.

Yes. They are separate additions and have their own numbering.

Sometimes changing locations, loading a save, or just waiting helps.

ok, i can do this.

[Augustus1288]

On 3/6/2022 at 12:21 PM, DSHV said:

I have one question: TOH version for Skyblivion. Should I start thinking about it? I have ideas, of course, about Mazoga and Yushi, female worshiper of Molag Bal.

I think it would be best to wait til it lunches. For first playthrough people will mostly go vanilla, so you will have time to prepare something, and bothering with it now, when it may be still years from completion seems like a waste of time. 

[DSHV]

On 3/6/2022 at 3:23 PM, Emulators said:

Some better PC gender detection or selection would be good in this mod.

The way it works: In the women's dialogue, I need to make PCSex==female and Have TroublesofHero item conditions. And for men add another dialogue with PCSex==male. And I'm writing with a woman in my mind, so it's pretty easy to miss a right section.

[PRSTUV]

On 3/1/2022 at 7:06 AM, DSHV said:

Maybe look for a solution on the Internet? I seem to remember what it is that can be solved with a small fix mod or changing .ini.

 

I have last question. I started a new game and came to Whiterun. I couldn't find False Dragonborn there. It was not possible to speak to the jarl about her. It was possible to speak about another trouble (male follower who takes the glory of the Dragonborn). In some my old games false dragonborn is still there as a follower.

[DSHV]

13 hours ago, PRSTUV said:

It was not possible to speak to the jarl about her.

Conditions to start: Real and False Heroes not started, Dragon Rising's quest stage >=160 (after you speak with Jarl Balgruuf after the dragon's kill). Maybe a quicksave and quickload before the Jarl help?

[PRSTUV]

6 hours ago, DSHV said:

Conditions to start: Real and False Heroes not started, Dragon Rising's quest stage >=160 (after you speak with Jarl Balgruuf after the dragon's kill). Maybe a quicksave and quickload before the Jarl help?

Ok, It was different before. The first thing I did in Whiterun before is to take False Dragonborn as a follower (one of the best - can use magic). Although I play Skyrim better than 2 years ago when I started, so it is easier without a follower.

[Alturistix]

@DSHV There is nothing separating False and Real Heroes (False Dragonborn one) from the Real and False Heroes quest. That is, a female PC can trigger both quests. Is this intended or were female MCs only supposed to trigger Real and False Heroes quest?

[DSHV]

12 hours ago, PRSTUV said:

Ok, It was different before.

 

11 hours ago, Alturistix said:

There is nothing separating False and Real Heroes (False Dragonborn one)

I thought it would be strange if the false Dragonborn will judge the false Dragonborn. Female Dragonborn can judge her first and then become foul liar.

[The Lord]

On 1/6/2022 at 11:55 AM, DSHV said:

Uncertain plans:

 

Civil Whore - Personal whore of generals and fallen Jarls;
Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore;
Artano - Slave Delphina;
More Falsk Venn;

You had written this some time before finalising the latest update. What exactly were you planning for "Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore"?

[Oyhuria]

Cant talk to molag grunda, tried reloading save and killing her. Anyways i can just use console commands to start her quest/dialogues?

[DSHV]

21 hours ago, The Lord said:

What exactly were you planning for "Revert Real Dragonborn - Dragonwhore"?

Jarl Elisif the Fair thinks that PC is too immaculate, so she replaces her with a dragonwhore, "proper woman", who are feminine and ready to satisfy men. Or just train PC to be that way. Or it can be male Dragonborn replaced by female "real" Dragonborn.

9 hours ago, Oyhuria said:

Cant talk to molag grunda, tried reloading save and killing her.

Her conditions are her and quest AAAOurCommonFather == 10. Setstage AAAOurCommonFather 10 (also 11 and 20)? Maybe some mod blocks her race dialogues? Can putting TOH to the bottom of your modlist help?

[The Lord]

2 hours ago, DSHV said:

Jarl Elisif the Fair thinks that PC is too immaculate, so she replaces her with a dragonwhore, "proper woman", who are feminine and ready to satisfy men. Or just train PC to be that way. Or it can be male Dragonborn replaced by female "real" Dragonborn.

Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate?

 

Would you simply take the already existent Dragonwhore or female "real" Dragonborn and tie them into it? Were you planning to basically copy what is currently there for the male "real" Dragonborn and see what would fit for a female one as well, filling whatever holes come up with new events or ones borrowed from your other quests? Or did you mean to write new quests specifically for this? What are the differences in character you thought about so far for the female "real" Dragonborn when compared to the male "real" Dragonborn as we currently have him? Will there be overlap with the Doppelganger or similar characters as a result?

 

Edit:

If you wanted to integrate the current Dragonwhore you could do that by adding onto her content when you encouraged her to become a bit more dominant and forceful. Maybe she thinks it'd be a good idea to practice her newfound composure in front of a larger audience. Hearing about Jarl Elisif being maybe a bit naive but also respecting women way more than many of the male Jarls, she thinks she could actually play the part of female Dragonborn at the Solitude court. She convinces you to escort her there and that's when things start going bad for the PC (or good, depending on how you look at it), with the Dragonwhore successfully wooing the court and making them believe you're nothing but her bodyguard/servant/housecarl.

If you wanted to integrate the current female "real" Dragonborn, you could provide an option where, after Balgruuf told you about her and you go meet her she requests you take her to the Solitude court to prove that she was a good influence and helped people. At the Solitude court, she'd then turn the tables on you, claiming that you tried to impersonate her and act as though you were the Dragonborn. Things could then become similar to how tha male "real" Dragonborn treats the PC, asserting dominance, making sure everyone truly believes she is the real Dragonborn etc.

Edited March 11, 2022 by The Lord

[DSHV]

2 hours ago, The Lord said:

Could you elaborate?

It's just an idea (not even mine) and I've told it all. But as I imagine it would be a separate quest with a separate NPC. Just gender-bender Real and False Heroes.

[The Lord]

41 minutes ago, DSHV said:

It's just an idea (not even mine) and I've told it all. But as I imagine it would be a separate quest with a separate NPC. Just gender-bender Real and False Heroes.

Okay. Looking forward to it then, if you decide to tackle it.

[pipaxing]

19 hours ago, The Lord said:

Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate?

 

Would you simply take the already existent Dragonwhore or female "real" Dragonborn and tie them into it? Were you planning to basically copy what is currently there for the male "real" Dragonborn and see what would fit for a female one as well, filling whatever holes come up with new events or ones borrowed from your other quests? Or did you mean to write new quests specifically for this? What are the differences in character you thought about so far for the female "real" Dragonborn when compared to the male "real" Dragonborn as we currently have him? Will there be overlap with the Doppelganger or similar characters as a result?

 

Edit:

If you wanted to integrate the current Dragonwhore you could do that by adding onto her content when you encouraged her to become a bit more dominant and forceful. Maybe she thinks it'd be a good idea to practice her newfound composure in front of a larger audience. Hearing about Jarl Elisif being maybe a bit naive but also respecting women way more than many of the male Jarls, she thinks she could actually play the part of female Dragonborn at the Solitude court. She convinces you to escort her there and that's when things start going bad for the PC (or good, depending on how you look at it), with the Dragonwhore successfully wooing the court and making them believe you're nothing but her bodyguard/servant/housecarl.

If you wanted to integrate the current female "real" Dragonborn, you could provide an option where, after Balgruuf told you about her and you go meet her she requests you take her to the Solitude court to prove that she was a good influence and helped people. At the Solitude court, she'd then turn the tables on you, claiming that you tried to impersonate her and act as though you were the Dragonborn. Things could then become similar to how tha male "real" Dragonborn treats the PC, asserting dominance, making sure everyone truly believes she is the real Dragonborn etc.

Haha, actually this is my suggestion to add a female Real Dragonborn. Your idea is better and more interesting. Both of them. Humiliate PC in court publically and take the identity as a Dragonborn. Actually I think Doppelganger could do this,too. 

[janedynamite]

what up DSHV, just wondering if the voicepack from project Echo is still compatible with the lastest version, thanks

[killer905]

7 hours ago, janedynamite said:

what up DSHV, just wondering if the voicepack from project Echo is still compatible with the lastest version, thanks

It still works, but does not support the new content.

[Lilu45]

Подскажите id квеста "Демонстрация модели" который выдает Катрина Шовен. Не могу пройти Грима, ГГ впадает в ступор навсегда когда выпивает зелье Грима. И когда Грим изнасилует ГГ она потом улетает за приделы Забытого сожаления, и остается в этой пустоте в парализованом состоянии.

[DSHV]

21 hours ago, Lilu45 said:

Подскажите id квеста "Демонстрация модели" который выдает Катрина Шовен.

При выпивании зелья наступает паралич, который проходит через 10 секунд. А секс начинается через 13 секунд. Эффект паралича часто багует. Можно попробовать пропустить стадии с setstage AAATOHModelShow 35 (или 40).

[xyzxyz]

The second quest of "High rock princess" was way too short. You enter your manor talk with her, talk with Jordis, have sex with the princess once, go back to Elisif, done. Took me like 2 min. Some more sex would have been apppropriate. Player with Jordis or Jordis with guard as demonstration for example.

[xyzxyz]

During the "Invitation" quest with the wolves the sex option for 2 wolves doesn't work for me. I have 3p canine animations but the wolves always have some actor thread problem. Single wolf or werewolves work fine.