Troubles of Heroine

[Foster66]

2 minutes ago, Terrafide said:

I used both mods for a time, and uninstalled thief after completing it. It seemed not to cause any issues in my game. But being Skyrim, ya never know lol

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

[DSHV]

 

On 9/24/2021 at 3:28 PM, Electric Aether said:

Also Carlotta dialogues are still not showing up,

If she has already done this, then the objective does not appear. You need to talk to her daughter - Mila. 

On 9/24/2021 at 4:08 PM, peterkenway said:

About bugs/perfomance in olfina quest:

I cut out some phrases that I didn't know how to cram. I usually do it - sometimes it looks good "on paper", but during the implementation it turns out that I did not take into account something.
Faster than a regular update, although I still have to do Non-ZAZ version.

It's OK.

On 9/24/2021 at 4:20 PM, Dojo_dude said:

And the dialogue exits and nothing happens...

An animation should start. Maybe there are no animations with the necessary tags (Handjob, Foreplay)? But even without animations, he should have the next dialogue Are you "satisfied?". Maybe quicksave/quickload will help?

On 9/24/2021 at 4:24 PM, peterkenway said:

DS will stay in your gang

I can use his clone elsewhere. He can go out and enjoy a walk after all.

On 9/24/2021 at 5:33 PM, Shenchi said:

I was jotting down some ideas for quests that give you negative ones instead.

This is a cool idea, but I have a feeling it will cause a lot of complaints. I also tried to do it with Fattig's clothes, but it doesn't work as it should, since there are no negative enchantments in Skyrim.

19 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Good Punishment starts no animations.

You need to transform and start poking into her until the punishment begins.

16 hours ago, petronius said:

I walk everywhere in the cave and the quest simply does not proceed past the "return to the night mammoths' nest" stage...

Need to talk to Serpent in the cave.

15 hours ago, zhuguannan123 said:

important son, other or another i can't quite remember. 

You need to talk to the father, then to the son, then to the father, and so on until the objective changes, then you need to talk to other guest, and then with another one and return to the father. Perhaps you can find the necessary NPC in the console by "important".

2 hours ago, wscjwdxjj said:

how can I collect all the ingredients?

Creep Cluster in the Forgotten Regret, Frost Salts - Exit the Forgotten Regret and fight a Frost Atronach, Nirnroot should be on the coast next to the Forgotten Regret, Fly Amanita - ask Serpent.

 

Added 2.3.2 version: Minor bugs fixes.
I hope everything works as it should, Creation Kit was acting funny.

Edited September 25, 2021 by DSHV
Ninja

[lPalpatinel]

20 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

Personally I would use the slaver organization that I mentioned earlier, from what I know, theres not a lot of content for it and if @DSHV allows so, will grant you permission to do whatever you want with it.

 

I have plans on creating a female sect of the Night Mammoths, I have some names in mind (Mammoth Sluts, Night Whores) Feel free to suggest a name btw

Anyways in this female bandit gang, I have plans on making the DB the leader under Serpents Demand, this will make the DB a dom in her gang and a sub in the NM.

 

I personally have no plans on killing Bruiser yet, and the quests I write for the Night Mammoths will happen during the main questline for TOH, I have plans to use the NM for an alternative ending to the TOH Questline if DSHV Allows it.

 

so this is tricky to make our plans compatible

ok, let's go by parts:

 

About the existing slavery organization:

I thank you and DSHV, if you two want to give this organization to me, but it's not logical for an ex-slave of Lars to become the head of a slave organization that already knows the protagonist, the only way I think it could works is if the protagonist + sasha/jacob kills the current head of the organization and takes over, but even so she would have to change of base to the ''woman torment'', with all its members or if they already have one base, and if its big, there becomes the '' woman torment ''.

 

About your idea for female bandit gang:

it's a good idea, i think mammoths sluts is better, but if you want a serious name i would suggest '' Women of the Night ''

 

About Timeline ( this is where we have to pay attention ) :

My quest is inspired by a phrase here from this mod and other mods/fictions from other places, during the breaking chains quest there is a wizard/sage in riften sewers who talks about the protagonist being the new serpent, that would be one of the reasons for the protagonist becomes by nature dominant although external actions (some men in the quests I will create) can interrupt the full development of that dominant form of the protagonist.

 

Having said that, my quests take place after the breaking chains quest, the point that marks the transition and says it's post breaking chains is when the protagonist saves Carlotta and recruits her into her slave organization, from then on serpent must be dead (if he's not, the next quest doesn't start, thus making an intem necessary to proceed in my quest) about bruiser, whether he dies or not, it's optional but if he's dead, the orc (still unnamed) in my quest will deal the protagonist in a different way, respecting how strong she is but he will still treat her like a woman, if you know what I mean.

 

our common quest that involves the Double Snorre, is between my Olfina and Carlotta quest and your Night Mammoths and Forgotten Regret quests, so keeping that in mind, it's how we gonna do this quests.

 

 

 

 

[Electric Aether]

23 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

My quest is inspired by a phrase here from this mod and other mods/fictions from other places, during the breaking chains quest there is a wizard/sage in riften sewers who talks about the protagonist being the new serpent, that would be one of the reasons for the protagonist becomes by nature dominant although external actions (some men in the quests I will create) can interrupt the full development of that dominant form of the protagonist.

I haven't finished that quest yet so as of now I don't know the plot.

But by reading this.

25 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

protagonist saves Carlotta

I have plans on Carlottas Epilogue, having her joining the Mammoth sluts. maybe by the end of the NM Quest, both Serpent and NM Will be defeated by the bandit gang for the DB, perhaps the Mammoth sluts can involve into this new Slave organization if the player goes down that route?

 

27 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

Women of the Night

I like this, I'll use it for the rival gang of the NM, they'll be Mammoth sluts when we're done with them

and everything else seems compatible as of now.

 

This seems like a great Epilogue

btw I don't plan on using Oflina.

 

I do plan on using Rat, Edippa, Catherine in future quests relating to the Night Mammoths.

 

[Dojo_dude]

This mod could really benefit from sexlab privacy.... lots of arrested and belted outcomes here! XD

[Electric Aether]

@DSHV do you know Legspreaders ID?

 

ps, your last suggestion regarding Mia/Mila worked, thank you.

Edited September 25, 2021 by Electric Aether

[xyzxyz]

Why is Sasha taking the male position in a animation with a male player? She takes about showing her bitch side but than takes the dominant role? please change that.

And there are no further dialogues where she shows her bitch/submissive side. Just "Sex". At the moment she is exactly the same as the male trainer.

Would be a cool plot twist if Sashas submissive side takes over during olfinas training after a few weeks without her noticing it.

Edited September 29, 2021 by xyzxyz

[CrossDG]

Is the version that was just uploaded for SE the merged one with the dlc stuff in it?

Edited September 25, 2021 by crosser0987

[lPalpatinel]

1 hour ago, crosser0987 said:

Is the version that was just uploaded for SE the merged one with the dlc stuff in it?

No and never will be, when launching an update it is always just for the game without dlc ( troubleheroine.7zip and troubleheroineSE.7zip), when it is an update for dlc it is usually troubleheroine + the name of the dlc + addon ( troubleheroinedawnguardaddon.7zip ) or some members of the group make some files that mix the addons with the main file that these is called ''merged'' ( troubleheroineSE2.2.0Merged).

3 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Why is Sashe taking the male position in a animation with a male player? She takes about showing her bitch side but than takes the dominant role? please change that.

And there are no further dialogues where she shows her bitch/submissive side. Just "Sex". At the moment she is exactly the same as the male trainer.

Would be a cool plot twist if Sashas submissive side takes over during olfinas training after a few weeks without her noticing it.

About the animation that sasha is having the dominant role maybe it's because she's supposed to have the dominant role in relation to slaves, it can be a bug in relation to men.

Be patient, this was my first update for Woman Torment, it will develop personality and have more content in the next updates.I plan on doing bigger quests with more character involvement.

[lPalpatinel]

7 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

I haven't finished that quest yet so as of now I don't know the plot.

But by reading this.

I have plans on Carlottas Epilogue, having her joining the Mammoth sluts. maybe by the end of the NM Quest, both Serpent and NM Will be defeated by the bandit gang for the DB, perhaps the Mammoth sluts can involve into this new Slave organization if the player goes down that route?

 

I like this, I'll use it for the rival gang of the NM, they'll be Mammoth sluts when we're done with them

and everything else seems compatible as of now.

 

This seems like a great Epilogue

btw I don't plan on using Oflina.

 

I do plan on using Rat, Edippa, Catherine in future quests relating to the Night Mammoths.

 

So about Carlotta, it's something we have to talk about and reach a consensus because she would be a slave in my organization, so much so that this was one of the reasons for having the third route which is to send Carlotta to Woman Torment, in my view the only solution is to leave this character open, in this case the protagonist's choice, what to do with her and both you and I write content for her in our respective organizations, in other words, if she is in the organization/gang she is mentioned if she is not, there is a way have the quest without her being present.

 

To prevent this situation from happening in the future, I will tell the girls who will be part of my questline, they are all from the game:
whiterun- Olfina, Carlotta ( optional ), Saadia, Alfhild.
Mortal- Idgrod the Younger
Solitude- Elisif, Elenwen, Sybille, Lisette,Bryling.
Markath- Lisbet, Senna

Winterhold-Birna

These are the targets of my organization.

Also @DSHV,since Carlotta has become optional, would you be able to add Saadia to Woman Torment ?, if necessary I can rewrite her quest for independent of the protagonist choice in quest vanilla choose, she will appear in woman torment but in different ways, one voluntary and the other not.

 

 

In this case, Mammoth Sluts (MS) would enter after the quest ''breaking chains'' (epilogue) or would MS ask for support for the protagonist's organization in order to defeat serpent and night mammoths?

 

I will now help DSHV, with the follower riekling and then we can start the Double Snorre quest for the next update, what do you think?

Edited September 25, 2021 by peterkenway
Missed Winterhold

[Electric Aether]

25 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

So about Carlotta, it's something we have to talk about and reach a consensus because she would be a slave in my organization, so much so that this was one of the reasons for having the third route which is to send Carlotta to Woman Torment, in my view the only solution is to leave this character open, in this case the protagonist's choice, what to do with her and both you and I write content for her in our respective organizations, in other words, if she is in the organization/gang she is mentioned if she is not, there is a way have the quest without her being present.

Sounds good, and to make it more Immersive, if the DB goes the NM Path, then as I said before, the Mammoth sluts will evolve to your slave organization once the story is done.

33 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

To prevent this situation from happening in the future, I will tell the girls who will be part of my questline, they are all from the game:
whiterun- Olfina, Carlotta ( optional ), Saadia, Alfhild.
Mortal- Idgrod the Younger
Solitude- Elisif, Elenwen, Sybille, Lisette
Markath- Lisbet, Senna

These are the targets of my organization.

Looks good!

Don't have any plans for them.

 

[cernik]

Does anyone try the new Studying of the Dwemer quest? I can start the quest talking to Grym, but then Calcelmo doesn't have a dialougue. Tried to setstaging it but that doesn't work either.

[Electric Aether]

@DSHV I downloaded the recent update and Buster is still trying to leave Night Mammoth Nest

[Klordix]

For some reason i cant see the specific lines for from Companions or greybeards. Im guessing that they are suppoes to be sexist in some way? Dont know if its my mod load order or anything else thats wrong. im using version 2.3.1 SE and everything else seems to be fine but its just this thats missing. 

 

 

edit: I did enable AAANoSexistFaction to 0 but it still doesn't work

Edited September 26, 2021 by Klordix
forgot to add informaton

[gspaz]

On 9/25/2021 at 10:09 AM, Foster66 said:

Hey there, Is it safe to add this mod if i want to play Thief mod as well ? Its that russian mod with branching story and many sexy events. As this mod looks to add bunch of quests and characters did anyone tried these two mods together ? Thanks in advance

 

You'll want to disable Shoeshiner in the Markarth market (to the right of the stands by the entrance) at least temporarily. There is an optional scene very late into the Thief story that pulls nearby NPCs to your character and Shoeshiner breaks it so it won't complete. That's the only conflict I've run into.

[Rob_J]

just found this last night, should so ask if it could be included in the mod https://www.deviantart.com/wossarem/art/72850-20180301144721-1-733363948

 

[Foster66]

8 hours ago, gspaz said:

 

You'll want to disable Shoeshiner in the Markarth market (to the right of the stands by the entrance) at least temporarily. There is an optional scene very late into the Thief story that pulls nearby NPCs to your character and Shoeshiner breaks it so it won't complete. That's the only conflict I've run into.

Thank you so much. Ill look for commands to disable him.

[Golgo13]

GOD DAMN IT!  My FNIS installation just randomly stopped working-- it couldn't find some temporary file it was expecting to find.  I'm trying to uninstall/reinstall it, but I can't find what you do when you right-click on the data file and you still get only, "The content of <data> does not look valid."

 

I barely understood MO2 enough to install this shit while slowly following tutorials step-by-step when everything went as expected.  I haven't the faintest fucking clue as to how to reinstall FNIS when I'm told that the only thing I can possibly do is wrong.  ???

 

Could someone please link me to a tutorial that includes mention of what to do when you get this motherfucking error?  All of the tutorials I found encounter no such problem.  I'm fucked in this game until I can get FNIS to work, again.

[DSHV]

On 9/25/2021 at 7:31 PM, Electric Aether said:

do you know Legspreaders ID?

I can only tell her Editor ID - AAANMLegsspeader. You can find any id by typing the code help *name*.

On 9/25/2021 at 8:03 PM, xyzxyz said:

Why is Sashe taking the male position in a animation with a male player?

Because I just copied it from Jacob's dialogs. You can switch actors by + key for now.

On 9/26/2021 at 1:02 AM, cernik said:

but then Calcelmo doesn't have a dialougue.

Is this the original Calcelmo? Not replaced by another mod or the console? His dialogue only has two conditions: the quest stage 10 and he as an actor.

On 9/26/2021 at 12:17 AM, peterkenway said:

would you be able to add Saadia to Woman Torment ?

Yes.

21 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

I downloaded the recent update and Buster is still trying to leave Night Mammoth Nest

Well, he still is old Buster without new package. Maybe you summon a new copy of him via player.placeatme id 1?

16 hours ago, Klordix said:

For some reason i cant see the specific lines for from Companions or greybeards.

I added a new condition to the Companions and Civil War dialogs. If global AAANoSexistFaction == 0. For example, for Aela's quests.

6 hours ago, Rob_J said:

just found this last night, should so ask if it could be included in the mod

Do you mean this scenario? For Real Dragonborn? Most users was against adding DD requirement to the mod. But it happen in the textbox in the Real and False Heroes.

2 hours ago, Foster66 said:

Ill look for commands to disable him.

Click in the console on her and type disable. Then enable to enable her.

On 9/24/2021 at 8:58 PM, idonotlikeusernames said:

Well for starters naked, erotic dancing works about the same for men and women, only need to change a few lines of dialog there.

By the way, you can take the Troubles of Hero item and then all women's content will work for a man.

Edited September 27, 2021 by DSHV
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[Rob_J]

2 hours ago, DSHV said:

 

Do you mean this scenario? For Real Dragonborn? Most users was against adding DD requirement to the mod. But it happen in the textbox in the Real and False Heroes.

 

was more meaning the actual picture if they give permission. I love the Lusty Dragonborn books you find from the mod so was thinking it could be a book about the Real Dragonborn getting spread around

[Electric Aether]

4 hours ago, DSHV said:

Well, he still is old Buster without new package. Maybe you summon a new copy of him via player.placeatme id 1?

I replayed the quest on an old save file and Buster still tries to leave the Nest.

Also human cock isn't appearing when you kill knife (Not sure about black widow)

 

 

[cernik]

9 hours ago, DSHV said:

Is this the original Calcelmo? Not replaced by another mod or the console? His dialogue only has two conditions: the quest stage 10 and he as an actor.

Yes, it should be the original Calcelmo. I checked in SSEedit. The only one minor edit is from USSEP.

There is also no quest marker pointing to him but that may be as intended?

 

I did some more testing and stagesetting but that didn't help in any way. Something, at least on my side, is blocking the dialogue and because of that anything after will not work properly. For example, the falmer in the Warrens is missing, too.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Nonetheless this mod is awesome. Thanks a lot.

[DSHV]

17 hours ago, cernik said:

For example, the falmer in the Warrens is missing, too.

Maybe you spawn them with the console? Their names are Minar Amant and Lori.

Added Non-ZAZ version.

[cernik]

11 minutes ago, DSHV said:

Maybe you spawn them with the console? Their names are Minar Amant and Lori.

Will give it a try.

[cernik]

1 hour ago, cernik said:

1 hour ago, DSHV said:

Maybe you spawn them with the console? Their names are Minar Amant and Lori.

Will give it a try.

Nope. Doesn't work. Same result.

I also started a new game with a very lightly modded setup to exclude conflciting mods as good as possilble and forced this quest to start. Still no dialogue options.

Which makes me think of: does this quest rely on other quest that must be completed before?