Troubles of Heroine

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Doppelganger Quest
 

Beneath the sack

-Master/Mistress, can I ask you something?
-What is it, slave?
-May I take off this hood? It’s hard to fight and the smell…
-I thought a disgusting slut like yourself would love the stench of cum and sweat.
-It would cause me trouble if others realised that I was just copying your looks, Dragonborn. Maybe if we… changed your appearance. <He/She grins wickedly>
-What do you mean?

-If you no longer like me, then you could walk freely without your hood! We would be the Dragonborn, and her deformed, beaten slave.

-By the divine, are you squirming? Are you getting horny just thinking about having your beauty ruined and becoming my wretched servant?
-N...No!

-How pathetic! You really are!

-Ofcourse, we would need to find some sort of potion to make it permanent. So no form of restoration magic can heal your new looks!

-How would you like that? Forever being my ugly slave, serving your former beautiful self as I drive your hard earned reputation into the dirt?

-<1/2>(Begin quest to gain a negative perk) The thought… is so alluring. Ruin me Master/Mistress!

-Good my little pet. I knew you wouldn’t be able to resist such a tempting offer like the perverse whore you are.

-I’m sure you know some people who could help you figure out how to make such a potion! Go slave! You’ve got me all excited now to ruin those precious looks of yours.
-<2/2>I refuse! I’d rather wear this hood forever than do something so perverse!

-Heh, I knew you wouldn’t have the guts! Maybe you actually like the smell of that hood after all.

 

I've seen that a lot of the quest perks you get give positive boosts so I was jotting down some ideas for quests that give you negative ones instead. Not every choice is going to give a boon! I was thinking some negative to speech through a series of quests with the doppelganger as she ruins your appearance, and some quests with the Real Dragonborn about transferring your power to him and increasing your shout cooldown time.

[idonotlikeusernames]

9 hours ago, DSHV said:

I thought about it, but there are no ideas other than Fellrim directing PC to the doppelganger. Maybe someone would like to write it?

 

Hmm............................what are you looking for.

 

Well for starters naked, erotic dancing works about the same for men and women, only need to change a few lines of dialog there.

But if you want something different for men, how about naked waiter (the holding the tray with glasses animation) at the Bee and Barb's new ladies night?

 

The part in Shor's stone as it is now doesn't make much sense for guys as it is now. That said the doppleganger "volunteering" the mc to work in the mines would.

 

Or for something different maybe the doppleganger left somebody at the altar of a wedding and now the mc has to make it up to them with an expensive shopping spree, where they serve as a naked pack-mule?

 

A couple of other things the doppleganger could do to humiliate a male dragonborn would be, naked farmworker...........pushing the grinding stone

Bragging to a courier that mc can do their job better and faster barefoot or naked.

 

And generally every humiliating gay or femdom scenario imaginable.

[Electric Aether]

4 hours ago, peterkenway said:

No, it's a new organization

Personally I would use the slaver organization that I mentioned earlier, from what I know, theres not a lot of content for it and if @DSHV allows so, will grant you permission to do whatever you want with it.

 

4 hours ago, peterkenway said:

the protagonist is following a dominant path but in NM she's treated like a slave

I have plans on creating a female sect of the Night Mammoths, I have some names in mind (Mammoth Sluts, Night Whores) Feel free to suggest a name btw

Anyways in this female bandit gang, I have plans on making the DB the leader under Serpents Demand, this will make the DB a dom in her gang and a sub in the NM.

 

4 hours ago, peterkenway said:

Plus: bruiser may be dead after completing the forgotten regret quest and his death impacts my next quest which will have an orc who will recognize if you have killed bruiser.

I personally have no plans on killing Bruiser yet, and the quests I write for the Night Mammoths will happen during the main questline for TOH, I have plans to use the NM for an alternative ending to the TOH Questline if DSHV Allows it.

 

so this is tricky to make our plans compatible

[xyzxyz]

Good Punishment starts no animations.

[petronius]

I'm going through the Night Mammoths' quest and Knife doesn't follow me through the exit. He follows me along the cave but when I have sex with the porter and get teleported outside, he doesn't follow. I can get him back if I fast travel and managed to marry him in Solitude, then have him follow me back to the cave and the same issue: after a "quick minet" with the guard outside, I get teleported in but Knife doesn't follow me. This time, I can't fast travel (being indoors). If I use the console I can teleport him to me, but then I walk everywhere in the cave and the quest simply does not proceed past the "return to the night mammoths' nest" stage...

[zhuguannan123]

14 hours ago, DSHV said:

 

 

Strange, in conditions of dialogues, just an actor and a stage number. Do they have no dialogue at all? There are 4 important guests: first guest with his son, other and another guests. What is the current objective of the quest?

 

There are only 2 guests: important son, other or another i can't quite remember. 

the current objective is to server the feast but I'm not certain, i have a memory of goldfish...

perhaps they spawned out of the map, that homeless guy behind the mare banner only had his head above the ground.

Edited September 24, 2021 by zhuguannan123

[wscjwdxjj]

Thanks for answering. I came across another problem: In the quest "Wrong Bruiser", how can I collect all the ingredients?

[Foster66]

Hey there, Is it safe to add this mod if i want to play Thief mod as well ? Its that russian mod with branching story and many sexy events. As this mod looks to add bunch of quests and characters did anyone tried these two mods together ? Thanks in advance

[Terrafide]

13 minutes ago, Foster66 said:

Hey there, Is it safe to add this mod if i want to play Thief mod as well ? Its that russian mod with branching story and many sexy events. As this mod looks to add bunch of quests and characters did anyone tried these two mods together ? Thanks in advance

I used both mods for a time, and uninstalled thief after completing it. It seemed not to cause any issues in my game. But being Skyrim, ya never know lol

Edited September 25, 2021 by Terrafide

[Foster66]

2 minutes ago, Terrafide said:

I used both mods for a time, and uninstalled thief after completing it. It seemed not to cause any issues in my game. But being Skyrim, ya never know lol

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

[DSHV]

 

On 9/24/2021 at 3:28 PM, Electric Aether said:

Also Carlotta dialogues are still not showing up,

If she has already done this, then the objective does not appear. You need to talk to her daughter - Mila. 

On 9/24/2021 at 4:08 PM, peterkenway said:

About bugs/perfomance in olfina quest:

I cut out some phrases that I didn't know how to cram. I usually do it - sometimes it looks good "on paper", but during the implementation it turns out that I did not take into account something.
Faster than a regular update, although I still have to do Non-ZAZ version.

It's OK.

On 9/24/2021 at 4:20 PM, Dojo_dude said:

And the dialogue exits and nothing happens...

An animation should start. Maybe there are no animations with the necessary tags (Handjob, Foreplay)? But even without animations, he should have the next dialogue Are you "satisfied?". Maybe quicksave/quickload will help?

On 9/24/2021 at 4:24 PM, peterkenway said:

DS will stay in your gang

I can use his clone elsewhere. He can go out and enjoy a walk after all.

On 9/24/2021 at 5:33 PM, Shenchi said:

I was jotting down some ideas for quests that give you negative ones instead.

This is a cool idea, but I have a feeling it will cause a lot of complaints. I also tried to do it with Fattig's clothes, but it doesn't work as it should, since there are no negative enchantments in Skyrim.

19 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Good Punishment starts no animations.

You need to transform and start poking into her until the punishment begins.

16 hours ago, petronius said:

I walk everywhere in the cave and the quest simply does not proceed past the "return to the night mammoths' nest" stage...

Need to talk to Serpent in the cave.

15 hours ago, zhuguannan123 said:

important son, other or another i can't quite remember. 

You need to talk to the father, then to the son, then to the father, and so on until the objective changes, then you need to talk to other guest, and then with another one and return to the father. Perhaps you can find the necessary NPC in the console by "important".

2 hours ago, wscjwdxjj said:

how can I collect all the ingredients?

Creep Cluster in the Forgotten Regret, Frost Salts - Exit the Forgotten Regret and fight a Frost Atronach, Nirnroot should be on the coast next to the Forgotten Regret, Fly Amanita - ask Serpent.

 

Added 2.3.2 version: Minor bugs fixes.
I hope everything works as it should, Creation Kit was acting funny.

Edited September 25, 2021 by DSHV
Ninja

[lPalpatinel]

20 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

Personally I would use the slaver organization that I mentioned earlier, from what I know, theres not a lot of content for it and if @DSHV allows so, will grant you permission to do whatever you want with it.

 

I have plans on creating a female sect of the Night Mammoths, I have some names in mind (Mammoth Sluts, Night Whores) Feel free to suggest a name btw

Anyways in this female bandit gang, I have plans on making the DB the leader under Serpents Demand, this will make the DB a dom in her gang and a sub in the NM.

 

I personally have no plans on killing Bruiser yet, and the quests I write for the Night Mammoths will happen during the main questline for TOH, I have plans to use the NM for an alternative ending to the TOH Questline if DSHV Allows it.

 

so this is tricky to make our plans compatible

ok, let's go by parts:

 

About the existing slavery organization:

I thank you and DSHV, if you two want to give this organization to me, but it's not logical for an ex-slave of Lars to become the head of a slave organization that already knows the protagonist, the only way I think it could works is if the protagonist + sasha/jacob kills the current head of the organization and takes over, but even so she would have to change of base to the ''woman torment'', with all its members or if they already have one base, and if its big, there becomes the '' woman torment ''.

 

About your idea for female bandit gang:

it's a good idea, i think mammoths sluts is better, but if you want a serious name i would suggest '' Women of the Night ''

 

About Timeline ( this is where we have to pay attention ) :

My quest is inspired by a phrase here from this mod and other mods/fictions from other places, during the breaking chains quest there is a wizard/sage in riften sewers who talks about the protagonist being the new serpent, that would be one of the reasons for the protagonist becomes by nature dominant although external actions (some men in the quests I will create) can interrupt the full development of that dominant form of the protagonist.

 

Having said that, my quests take place after the breaking chains quest, the point that marks the transition and says it's post breaking chains is when the protagonist saves Carlotta and recruits her into her slave organization, from then on serpent must be dead (if he's not, the next quest doesn't start, thus making an intem necessary to proceed in my quest) about bruiser, whether he dies or not, it's optional but if he's dead, the orc (still unnamed) in my quest will deal the protagonist in a different way, respecting how strong she is but he will still treat her like a woman, if you know what I mean.

 

our common quest that involves the Double Snorre, is between my Olfina and Carlotta quest and your Night Mammoths and Forgotten Regret quests, so keeping that in mind, it's how we gonna do this quests.

 

 

 

 

[Electric Aether]

23 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

My quest is inspired by a phrase here from this mod and other mods/fictions from other places, during the breaking chains quest there is a wizard/sage in riften sewers who talks about the protagonist being the new serpent, that would be one of the reasons for the protagonist becomes by nature dominant although external actions (some men in the quests I will create) can interrupt the full development of that dominant form of the protagonist.

I haven't finished that quest yet so as of now I don't know the plot.

But by reading this.

25 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

protagonist saves Carlotta

I have plans on Carlottas Epilogue, having her joining the Mammoth sluts. maybe by the end of the NM Quest, both Serpent and NM Will be defeated by the bandit gang for the DB, perhaps the Mammoth sluts can involve into this new Slave organization if the player goes down that route?

 

27 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

Women of the Night

I like this, I'll use it for the rival gang of the NM, they'll be Mammoth sluts when we're done with them

and everything else seems compatible as of now.

 

This seems like a great Epilogue

btw I don't plan on using Oflina.

 

I do plan on using Rat, Edippa, Catherine in future quests relating to the Night Mammoths.

 

[Dojo_dude]

This mod could really benefit from sexlab privacy.... lots of arrested and belted outcomes here! XD

[Electric Aether]

@DSHV do you know Legspreaders ID?

 

ps, your last suggestion regarding Mia/Mila worked, thank you.

Edited September 25, 2021 by Electric Aether

[xyzxyz]

Why is Sasha taking the male position in a animation with a male player? She takes about showing her bitch side but than takes the dominant role? please change that.

And there are no further dialogues where she shows her bitch/submissive side. Just "Sex". At the moment she is exactly the same as the male trainer.

Would be a cool plot twist if Sashas submissive side takes over during olfinas training after a few weeks without her noticing it.

Edited September 29, 2021 by xyzxyz

[CrossDG]

Is the version that was just uploaded for SE the merged one with the dlc stuff in it?

Edited September 25, 2021 by crosser0987

[lPalpatinel]

1 hour ago, crosser0987 said:

Is the version that was just uploaded for SE the merged one with the dlc stuff in it?

No and never will be, when launching an update it is always just for the game without dlc ( troubleheroine.7zip and troubleheroineSE.7zip), when it is an update for dlc it is usually troubleheroine + the name of the dlc + addon ( troubleheroinedawnguardaddon.7zip ) or some members of the group make some files that mix the addons with the main file that these is called ''merged'' ( troubleheroineSE2.2.0Merged).

3 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Why is Sashe taking the male position in a animation with a male player? She takes about showing her bitch side but than takes the dominant role? please change that.

And there are no further dialogues where she shows her bitch/submissive side. Just "Sex". At the moment she is exactly the same as the male trainer.

Would be a cool plot twist if Sashas submissive side takes over during olfinas training after a few weeks without her noticing it.

About the animation that sasha is having the dominant role maybe it's because she's supposed to have the dominant role in relation to slaves, it can be a bug in relation to men.

Be patient, this was my first update for Woman Torment, it will develop personality and have more content in the next updates.I plan on doing bigger quests with more character involvement.

[lPalpatinel]

7 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

I haven't finished that quest yet so as of now I don't know the plot.

But by reading this.

I have plans on Carlottas Epilogue, having her joining the Mammoth sluts. maybe by the end of the NM Quest, both Serpent and NM Will be defeated by the bandit gang for the DB, perhaps the Mammoth sluts can involve into this new Slave organization if the player goes down that route?

 

I like this, I'll use it for the rival gang of the NM, they'll be Mammoth sluts when we're done with them

and everything else seems compatible as of now.

 

This seems like a great Epilogue

btw I don't plan on using Oflina.

 

I do plan on using Rat, Edippa, Catherine in future quests relating to the Night Mammoths.

 

So about Carlotta, it's something we have to talk about and reach a consensus because she would be a slave in my organization, so much so that this was one of the reasons for having the third route which is to send Carlotta to Woman Torment, in my view the only solution is to leave this character open, in this case the protagonist's choice, what to do with her and both you and I write content for her in our respective organizations, in other words, if she is in the organization/gang she is mentioned if she is not, there is a way have the quest without her being present.

 

To prevent this situation from happening in the future, I will tell the girls who will be part of my questline, they are all from the game:
whiterun- Olfina, Carlotta ( optional ), Saadia, Alfhild.
Mortal- Idgrod the Younger
Solitude- Elisif, Elenwen, Sybille, Lisette,Bryling.
Markath- Lisbet, Senna

Winterhold-Birna

These are the targets of my organization.

Also @DSHV,since Carlotta has become optional, would you be able to add Saadia to Woman Torment ?, if necessary I can rewrite her quest for independent of the protagonist choice in quest vanilla choose, she will appear in woman torment but in different ways, one voluntary and the other not.

 

 

In this case, Mammoth Sluts (MS) would enter after the quest ''breaking chains'' (epilogue) or would MS ask for support for the protagonist's organization in order to defeat serpent and night mammoths?

 

I will now help DSHV, with the follower riekling and then we can start the Double Snorre quest for the next update, what do you think?

Edited September 25, 2021 by peterkenway
Missed Winterhold

[Electric Aether]

25 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

So about Carlotta, it's something we have to talk about and reach a consensus because she would be a slave in my organization, so much so that this was one of the reasons for having the third route which is to send Carlotta to Woman Torment, in my view the only solution is to leave this character open, in this case the protagonist's choice, what to do with her and both you and I write content for her in our respective organizations, in other words, if she is in the organization/gang she is mentioned if she is not, there is a way have the quest without her being present.

Sounds good, and to make it more Immersive, if the DB goes the NM Path, then as I said before, the Mammoth sluts will evolve to your slave organization once the story is done.

33 minutes ago, peterkenway said:

To prevent this situation from happening in the future, I will tell the girls who will be part of my questline, they are all from the game:
whiterun- Olfina, Carlotta ( optional ), Saadia, Alfhild.
Mortal- Idgrod the Younger
Solitude- Elisif, Elenwen, Sybille, Lisette
Markath- Lisbet, Senna

These are the targets of my organization.

Looks good!

Don't have any plans for them.

 

[cernik]

Does anyone try the new Studying of the Dwemer quest? I can start the quest talking to Grym, but then Calcelmo doesn't have a dialougue. Tried to setstaging it but that doesn't work either.

[Electric Aether]

@DSHV I downloaded the recent update and Buster is still trying to leave Night Mammoth Nest

[Klordix]

For some reason i cant see the specific lines for from Companions or greybeards. Im guessing that they are suppoes to be sexist in some way? Dont know if its my mod load order or anything else thats wrong. im using version 2.3.1 SE and everything else seems to be fine but its just this thats missing. 

 

 

edit: I did enable AAANoSexistFaction to 0 but it still doesn't work

Edited September 26, 2021 by Klordix
forgot to add informaton

[gspaz]

On 9/25/2021 at 10:09 AM, Foster66 said:

Hey there, Is it safe to add this mod if i want to play Thief mod as well ? Its that russian mod with branching story and many sexy events. As this mod looks to add bunch of quests and characters did anyone tried these two mods together ? Thanks in advance

 

You'll want to disable Shoeshiner in the Markarth market (to the right of the stands by the entrance) at least temporarily. There is an optional scene very late into the Thief story that pulls nearby NPCs to your character and Shoeshiner breaks it so it won't complete. That's the only conflict I've run into.

[Rob_J]

just found this last night, should so ask if it could be included in the mod https://www.deviantart.com/wossarem/art/72850-20180301144721-1-733363948