AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[logyboy77]

So, for some reason, even after installing Rufgt's anims, cunnilingus anims aren't playing, and there's no load message either. Do I need to have it in any particular place in my load order?

[Tentacus]

11 hours ago, logyboy77 said:

So, for some reason, even after installing Rufgt's anims, cunnilingus anims aren't playing, and there's no load message either. Do I need to have it in any particular place in my load order?

You did Reinstall Hardship after installing Rufgt right? Do you mean you didn't get the message about Cunnilingus and kissing being available, or no initialization message at all?

[Tentacus]

Okay so making furniture is hella hard. Not the actual Nif making... It's pretty easy to kitbash some cool stuff, but all this subgraph nonsense and having to have entry and exit anims no matter what is just... ergh. I'm not gonna get into doing this right now or perhaps I'll make something that's just an activator that plays AAF anims.

[logyboy77]

I reinstalled both mods multiple times, and the most recent time, I got the kissing and cunnilingus animations loaded, but whenever I got an NPC that wanted that, no animations would play and I could just run around.

[Tentacus]

25 minutes ago, logyboy77 said:

I reinstalled both mods multiple times, and the most recent time, I got the kissing and cunnilingus animations loaded, but whenever I got an NPC that wanted that, no animations would play and I could just run around.

Hmmmm Gimme a minute I mighta done something stupid

 

Edit: Yeah... I forgot to include the updated Rufgt positiondata with the new tags in the installer. I'll have an update up soon.

 

Sorry about that.

[logyboy77]

Ahh, thanks for the info on that one, I'll keep an eye out for that update.

[Tentacus]

1 hour ago, logyboy77 said:

Ahh, thanks for the info on that one, I'll keep an eye out for that update.

It'll be a minute cause I keep finding small problems... Like the BP70 lick pointing at the wrong animation

[Tentacus]

Update 1.5.9G_Fixed is up!

 

What's New:

-Fixed missing XML tags.

-Fixed position pointing to wrong animation.

-Rotated _T_BP70 Lick to face same way as _T_Cunnilingus.

 

[Slorm]

This might just be the shitty RNG but I've noticed that every request for vaginal sex leads to a request for anal again, so I was wondering if the vanilla correction was in.

 

Might just be bad luck on my part but thought I'd check

[Malphias]

Well, hot diggity damn ...back to playin'. Tentacus, thanks for fixing some Leito anims for me. Early today I installed AAF and Leito plus the necessary bitsy bits.  Then spent a considerable amount of time goin' thru every animation and removing those that didn't work.

 

Then I found your own Leito XML fix and installed it.  A number of anims I had dumped you fixed. Positions were off a bit, bothers the shit out of me when a penis is rubbing a bitch's belly instead of being inside of her. This was a big problem for most of the cowgirl/reverse cowgirl anims.

 

How'd you do that? I need to know as I have most anim packs installed now and I will have to go thru each and every one to exnay the crapay. As I do that, I may be able to fix some if I can nudge the actors into position...like, for instance, I do know a BP70 blowjob just...blows. He's fucking her face between the nose and upper lip...he needs to be adjusted down.

 

I was gonna go and do that with every one of 'em but man, that is a lot of work and I wanna play so...I guess I'll do this incrementally.

 

And for you and any animators out there...if ya wanna spill your secrets I'd love to learn. I want animations like the medieval rack, chick bound to it getting screwed by a mob. Or hanging from the ceiling, hands tied together over her head, getting backdoored by a Raider.

 

But only if it uses free tools like Blender, I don't want or need 3DMax. I know my way around Blender and gonna stick to that.

 

I figure I can create meshes and models, but how would I create an animation in there, that can be imported into the game? It's like Blender speaks Spanish and F4 Speaks French...and me without a translator

 

 

PS...Back into Bodyslide ...I just can't seem to create a form for my girl that is satisfying...it looks one way in Bodyslide but ...not quiet the same in game.   It's been frusterating.

 

 

[Tentacus]

4 hours ago, Slorm said:

This might just be the shitty RNG but I've noticed that every request for vaginal sex leads to a request for anal again, so I was wondering if the vanilla correction was in.

 

Might just be bad luck on my part but thought I'd check

It should be fixed but knowing my luck lately... Let me look...

 

Yeah it's fixed... It's just RNG.

[Tentacus]

2 hours ago, Malphias said:

Well, hot diggity damn ...back to playin'. Tentacus, thanks for fixing some Leito anims for me. Early today I installed AAF and Leito plus the necessary bitsy bits.  Then spent a considerable amount of time goin' thru every animation and removing those that didn't work.

 

Then I found your own Leito XML fix and installed it.  A number of anims I had dumped you fixed. Positions were off a bit, bothers the shit out of me when a penis is rubbing a bitch's belly instead of being inside of her. This was a big problem for most of the cowgirl/reverse cowgirl anims.

 

How'd you do that? I need to know as I have most anim packs installed now and I will have to go thru each and every one to exnay the crapay. As I do that, I may be able to fix some if I can nudge the actors into position...like, for instance, I do know a BP70 blowjob just...blows. He's fucking her face between the nose and upper lip...he needs to be adjusted down.

It's easy you just apply xyz(plus rotation) offsets for each actor in the animation Data XML. (Or in the position data if you want the same offset to be applied in every position) It appears the Leito anims were originally made for actors scaled to equal size as were the BP70 anims... Meanwhile Savage Cabbage uses Vanilla scales... so you only have to adjust those for gay and lesbian anims. It's just a matter of trial and error. I prefer to not artificially alter the actor scale so I fixed the offsets.

 

And yes the Reverse Cowgirl anims were a fucking nightmare of trial and error.

 

Anyway the current Hardship uses it's own BP70 XMLs which are corrected. 

2 hours ago, Malphias said:

I figure I can create meshes and models, but how would I create an animation in there, that can be imported into the game? It's like Blender speaks Spanish and F4 Speaks French...and me without a translator

There are tutorials in the forum here. It's not easy, you need a very particular version of 3DS Max and the proper Havok tools. I'm not gonna fuck with learning max for that. I've had some success editing existing HkX anims using the app HkX Poser from the Nexus. You still need the Havok tools for that but it's very simple... BUT you can't keyframe... only change the position of limbs over the entire anim so it's very limited in it's usefulness... Mostly good for static pooses, though I've created several AAF Cunnilingus, analingus, and facesitting positions with it (In a future Hardship.)

 

[Tentacus]

I had thought about doing a bondage furniture mod as a palate cleanser but the fact is that's some hardcore shit. Don't worry I still want to do it but I've thought of more interesting non vanilla ways to do it. Unfortunately I feel like these ideas will need TSEX to be out so this falls back into the queue of mods that I'll make after 1.6 comes out. 

[justforcensor]

what do you think about adding a gangbang event in the tree. like character tells prices for her services and client ask her to do his very shy friend who afraid of talking to girls just down the alley (for extra money).sometimes client lure character in the trap where she can resist and whole group will take turns one by one or agree and make it quick in one 3-9some animation. and sometimes shy friend is real end she just gets extra caps.

[Tentacus]

7 hours ago, justforcensor said:

what do you think about adding a gangbang event in the tree. like character tells prices for her services and client ask her to do his very shy friend who afraid of talking to girls just down the alley (for extra money).sometimes client lure character in the trap where she can resist and whole group will take turns one by one or agree and make it quick in one 3-9some animation. and sometimes shy friend is real end she just gets extra caps.

It's been planned for a while. The Raider rape ones have been in 1.6 for months If I ever get a chance to finish it ? . Whenever I add the consensual ones they will only happen at House Parties/Rexford.

[Malphias]

140 pages....that's too much to sift thru looking for answers. You need a FAQ sticky, Tentacus.

 

This has been the easiest install I've done in, like, forever. 185 mods and everything 'appears' fine.

 

All this adult stuff has always been a nightmare but this time it was a snap. Installed a few mods, and everyone has dicks, and they are erect when they need to be.

 

But I can't understand your installer...you give three options on the first tab for 'staged', 'extended' and 'middle' and I've tried all three now. But Hardship scenes won't end. They progress to the last 'section' and stays there. I have to open AAF and "End" the scene.

 

I have most all animation packs as I like a variety and some are for activities your mod won't be covering. The only patch I have is yours and UAF as described on the front page.  I assume I need UAF for all things that are not Hardship.

 

No biggie at the moment as I am experimenting with settlement building. I have seen the huge settlements some people have created on Youtube and wonder how the fuck they can do that without their system dropping to a crawl or getting a CTD. This is not the most stable game engine so high specs don't matter to it. Mine are high.

 

But I can't even get close. I think it may be "Scrap Everything". It breaks precombines. Once I build up a settlement and add decorations and all, I can walk up to it and have to wait 2 or 3 minutes for all the graphics to load. Once loaded, I am fine.

 

Would suck if it's 'Scrap Everything' I've always played with that and it is great! Clears out Sanctuary nicely. Never realized until now just how fucked up Bethesda was in designing the environment. What...I can scrap the toilet but not the shower stall? I can scrap the cabinets in other houses, but not in Nora's? FUCK ...it's a nightmare!

 

I'm trying to deal with it *sigh* But I need caps to make Stores so I'm off fucking raiders to earn some...which is where I found Hardship scenes don't want to conclude.

 

I'm sure an answer is here but goddamn, that's a lot of pages to read.

 

 

[Tentacus]

1 hour ago, Malphias said:

But Hardship scenes won't end. They progress to the last 'section' and stays there. I have to open AAF and "End" the scene.

You must not have the latest Hardship. That issue was fixed a few days ago. This is a universal problem with AAF 154 and any mod that was compiled on older versions that uses stopscene.

1 hour ago, Malphias said:

 

I have most all animation packs as I like a variety and some are for activities your mod won't be covering. The only patch I have is yours and UAF as described on the front page.  I assume I need UAF for all things that are not Hardship.

 

Do you mean UAP? No. For Hardship you just need the animation packs, Staged Leito Plus, and themes... You can install UAP for other mods now if you want, as long as you don't install his Leito XMLs.

[Malphias]

1 hour ago, Tentacus said:

You must not have the latest Hardship. That issue was fixed a few days ago. This is a universal problem with AAF 154 and any mod that was compiled on older versions that uses stopscene.

Do you mean UAP? No. For Hardship you just need the animation packs, Staged Leito Plus, and themes... You can install UAP for other mods now if you want, as long as you don't install his Leito XMLs.

Just installed everything yesterday. Hardship 1.5.9G_Fixed

 

And no, not UAP's Leito.

[KitKatKseniya]

1 hour ago, Malphias said:

Just installed everything yesterday. Hardship 1.5.9G_Fixed

 

And no, not UAP's Leito.

You up to date with AAF too? I had the same problem with animations not finishing but once I updated my aaf it was fine

[Tentacus]

2 minutes ago, KitKatKseniya said:

You up to date with AAF too? I had the same problem with animations not finishing but once I updated my aaf it was fine

Interesting... It reverses the bug if AAF is not up to date  Yes AAF 154 > is required now. I thought I put that in the instructions but maybe I just put it in the file description.

[Malphias]

1 hour ago, Tentacus said:

Interesting... It reverses the bug if AAF is not up to date  Yes AAF 154 > is required now. I thought I put that in the instructions but maybe I just put it in the file description.

Yes, you did...and yes, I do. Aaf 154 and the latest Hardship. As far as other mods go...just AAF Violate,  Raider Pet and Random Shenanigans from this place, all but two or 3 mod packs.

[Tentacus]

My initial experiments doing Bondage "furniture" with AAF, avoiding the vanilla furniture system and all it's fiddly bullshit altogether seems promising. My basic idea is that if the player clicks on it it plays the bondage pose and the player will be in it until they hit the end key to get up. If an NPC hits it they will also be put in bondage, but if the player then activates it they will get a menu with options like "Fondle the victim, frighten the victim, torture the victim, free the victim"... etc... It will also put the NPC back in bondage when the game loads (hopefully) as AAF animations end when you exit the game.

 

I haven't tested it works yet but I did make the script and the idea seems sound. That said my idea of making a Palate cleanser furniture mod before getting back to Hardship 1.6/Tsex seems out the window since the features I just described would benefit from TSEX.

[Malphias]

I've uninstalled and reinstalled Hardship. Was really blowing beets this morning. One question: Before or after Leito Plus? In Vortex mod conficts are auto-detected and you can set up rules for which comes first...so should Leito be before or after Hardship? I just put it after.

 

 

[Tentacus]

21 minutes ago, Malphias said:

I've uninstalled and reinstalled Hardship. Was really blowing beets this morning. One question: Before or after Leito Plus? In Vortex mod conficts are auto-detected and you can set up rules for which comes first...so should Leito be before or after Hardship? I just put it after.

 

 

Load order shouldn't matter between them. The only real Load order issues with Hardship is to make sure Real Handcuffs is above it since it's a master for Hardship and any mods that change Hotel Rexford (Like Fixed Rexford) should go below it, because of the one edit I made to add the basement Mattress. 

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, Tentacus said:

Load order shouldn't matter between them. The only real Load order issues with Hardship is to make sure Real Handcuffs is above it since it's a master for Hardship and any mods that change Hotel Rexford (Like Fixed Rexford) should go below it, because of the one edit I made to add the basement Mattress. 

But as far as file overwrites go, the aaf\_t_actiondata.xml and aaf\_t_mfgsetdata.xml files contained in both SLP and Hardship are identical so it doesn't matter which pair overwrites the other?