OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, D3vilizeR said:

As you can see, when I reinstalled the previous version, everything works fine again.

 

After compare my old and new scripts, seems like the fix that use the MFG for the Mood is in fact new on this version.

 

So isn't a bug or something different on the configuration or the installed Mods. 

Is just that the new function behaves different with the same values and you will have to set a bigger OpenMouth %, that by the way is in fact the value of the Mood for the OpenMouth expression.

 

 

The previous versions of SLU+ and SexLab, use the function "SetExpressionPhoneme" that comes with the "SKSE" by default. But apparently is broken at least on SE so I had to use the alternative function that comes with the MFG to prevent the errors caused by the old function that by the way is fatal for the scene.

 

But this change also allow me set values bigger than 100% so the next version will allow way bigger OpenMouth than previous versions. At least when you be using the MFG.

 

 

 

 

For now just change the advanced configuration of the Open Mouth. Because this is not a bug.

Edited February 20, 2023 by OsmelMC

[D3vilizeR]

7 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

 

A régi és az új szkriptjeim összehasonlítása után úgy tűnik, hogy az MFG for the Mood-t használó javítás valójában új ezen a verzión.

 

Tehát nem hiba vagy valami más a konfigurációban vagy a telepített modokban. 

Csak annyi, hogy az új függvény ugyanazokkal az értékekkel másképp viselkedik, és nagyobb OpenMouth%-ot kell beállítani, ez egyébként valójában a Mood értéke az OpenMouth kifejezéshez.

 

 

Az SLU+ és a SexLab korábbi verziói a "SetExpressionPhoneme" funkciót használják, amely alapértelmezés szerint az "SKSE"-hez tartozik. De úgy tűnik, legalább SE-n elromlott, így az MFG-hez mellékelt alternatív funkciót kellett használnom, hogy megelőzzem a régi, a jelenetre egyébként végzetes funkció okozta hibákat.

 

De ez a változtatás lehetővé teszi, hogy 100%-nál nagyobb értékeket állítsak be, így a következő verzió sokkal nagyobb OpenMouth-ot tesz lehetővé, mint az előző verziók. Legalábbis ha az MFG-t használja.

 

 

 

 

Egyelőre csak módosítsa az Open Mouth speciális konfigurációját. Mert ez nem hiba.

 

Thanks for the answer and the help.

[OsmelMC]

I'm planning to make the Open Mouth of the next version more intuitive in a way that smaller actors get a bigger OpenMouth when are with bigger actors as partners.

 

This isn't required for the vanilla Skyrim because the actors have more or less the same scale. But I'm using "FK's Diverse Racial Skeletons" that changes the actor scales in some cases very extreme so a Blowjob scene between a Female Breton and the "Sanguine" of "Sanguines Debauchery" is now impossible

 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2023 by OsmelMC

[Neitiri]

22 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

No!

 

If you are worry about the speed of the scene start up, I'm using "Papyrus Tweak NG" and my start up is almost instantaneous.

 

And I have to test the grass patch, because the function use there is known to cause misalignment. I just had to roll back a change on the Necro treatment for a similar problem with the alignment.

Interesting, well, grass patch from Alex works perfectly for me, there were slight misalignment at the start, however if you start from NG and reset all the positions in SexLab, it fixes that, however once animation start, if any left, resetting to stage 1 (actors try to re-align) fixes it completely and with 3BAv2 almost perfect alignments can be achieved with newer animations. Leito's and Baka Factory's are mostly misaligned, but it was always the case with or without a mod. One thing grass patch broke for me is a facial expressions, well, actors do have expressions however only on eyes and brows, mouth is always the same (except blowjob scenes).

 

P.S idk if you have fixed that, but furniture animations were pretty messed up and rotated incorrectly also was not filtered out and can be triggered in non-furniture situations.

 

I hope my info can help in any way, amazing mod !

[OsmelMC]

45 minutes ago, Neitiri said:

idk if you have fixed that, but furniture animations were pretty messed up and rotated incorrectly also was not filtered out and can be triggered in non-furniture situations.

The furniture system is fine. If you find any issue, send me the "papyrus.0.log".

[D3vilizeR]

Is it also normal that OpenMouth is the same at 40% and 100%? The slider doesn't seem to work at all right now. All values look like the 85% I linked yesterday.

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by D3vilizeR

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, D3vilizeR said:

Is it also normal that OpenMouth is the same at 40% and 100%? The slider doesn't seem to work at all right now. All values look like the 85% I linked yesterday.

 

I'm checking that. Seems like the Mood isn't working for some reason. I remember check it with the Console after made the changes and was working. But now isn't working anywhere.

 

I will release a hotfix on the next 24 hours. In the worse of the cases is enough with roll back to the vanilla function.

Edited February 21, 2023 by OsmelMC

[Talesien]

Ever since updating from the 1229 to 0218 version I have the problem that often (but not always) tongues will get equipped despite all my settings being "None". Anything I can do, those monster tongues creep me out, they might befit an ant-eater, but certainly not a human (or mer). Already did a "Clean System" (actually did one right after upgrading), but to no avail.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Talesien

[OsmelMC]

11 hours ago, Talesien said:

Ever since updating from the 1229 to 0218 version I have the problem that often (but not always) tongues will get equipped despite all my settings being "None". Anything I can do, those monster tongues creep me out, they might befit an ant-eater, but certainly not a human (or mer). Already did a "Clean System" (actually did one right after upgrading), but to no avail.

The tongues won't be placed on the inventory if you disable the "Use Face Items" option on the "Animations Settings" page.

 

When some Mod is forcing one of the items to stay equipped, the system will trigger a redress event each time some equippable item be added to the inventory. That can force the tongues to get equipped. Except my Mods, almost all the Ahegao Tongues and Wardrobes or Outfit Managers use the function to prevent the unstriped of the item.

 

The only monster tongues are the ones of the Argonians and seems to me that fit very well for that race. You can't set the monster tongues to another race unless you change the meshes.

[OsmelMC]

This is the fix for the expressions. Probably need restart the expression registry, since one of the bugs disable all the options that keep the lips open while the tongue is showed.

 

 

SexLab Utility Plus Expression_Hotfix (20230105).7z

Edited February 22, 2023 by OsmelMC

[D3vilizeR]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

This is the fix for the expressions. Probably need restart the expression registry, since one of the bugs disable all the options that keep the lips open while the tongue is showed.

 

 

SexLab Utility Plus Expression_Hotfix (20230105).7z 12.31 kB · 9 downloads

 

Thank you for the fix, now everything works perfectly and the mouth opening is correct.

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by D3vilizeR

[Ragsinn]

Howdy OsmelMC I hope this post finds you well and in good spirits. Thanks for the recent updates. I have a question if its not to much trouble. 

When I have lip sync enabled the only moans I get are on Orgasm. Is there some setting or slider I am not seeing in the lip sync part of expressions?

If I do not enable lip sync the moans play as normal. 

 

I do use slso and its not an slso voice pack . I also use sexlab extra voices.

 

Thanks in advance.

[OsmelMC]

53 minutes ago, Ragsinn said:

Howdy OsmelMC I hope this post finds you well and in good spirits. Thanks for the recent updates. I have a question if its not to much trouble. 

When I have lip sync enabled the only moans I get are on Orgasm. Is there some setting or slider I am not seeing in the lip sync part of expressions?

If I do not enable lip sync the moans play as normal. 

 

I do use slso and its not an slso voice pack . I also use sexlab extra voices.

 

Thanks in advance.

If you hear the moans, you should be able to see the lips movements.

 

Few things to take in consideration:

1. The Lips Sync is basically a lot of different sounds played randomly and a small lips movements for each sound file.

 

2. All the sound Files have different durations and some times are more than one moan in the same file. So the lip sync isn't synchronized at all .

 

3. On the "Expression Editor" page you can find the option "Advanced OpenMouth & Lips Sync configuration" that will show you the options to configure the lips sync. The you can configure the duration of the movement and how much will be open the mouth for the moans.

 

4. The voices have the moaning sounds grouped by types and the types are basically "normal, victim and orgasm" so one voice can come just with the moans for the orgasm and is also different for each gender so one gender can have have only orgasm while the other have all the types or none. This means that you should check what voice is being used for the actor, because the actor can be using the same voice always and that voice probably have just orgasms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Send me the "papyrus.0.log" if you need more specific help.

[Ragsinn]

4 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

If you hear the moans, you should be able to see the lips movements.

 

Few things to take in consideration:

1. The Lips Sync is basically a lot of different sounds played randomly and a small lips movements for each sound file.

 

2. All the sound Files have different durations and some times are more than one moan in the same file. So the lip sync isn't synchronized at all .

 

3. On the "Expression Editor" page you can find the option "Advanced OpenMouth & Lips Sync configuration" that will show you the options to configure the lips sync. The you can configure the duration of the movement and how much will be open the mouth for the moans.

 

4. The voices have the moaning sounds grouped by types and the types are basically "normal, victim and orgasm" so one voice can come just with the moans for the orgasm and is also different for each gender so one gender can have have only orgasm while the other have all the types or none. This means that you should check what voice is being used for the actor, because the actor can be using the same voice always and that voice probably have just orgasms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Send me the "papyrus.0.log" if you need more specific help.

For what ever reason I can not create the log ..its enabled in the ini ..but just not showing up . Have restarted the game several times. Sorry to have wasted your time.

 

Doh ..The papyrus settings were in skyrim.ini and skyrimcustom.in had to fix that . Also lips move fine not hearing the moans is the trouble. Only moan has been on orgasim.

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited February 23, 2023 by Ragsinn
added log

[NicoleDragoness]

1 hour ago, iDREIS MAD said:

@OsmelMCis that possible to delete original animation pack from SexLabFrameework? 

I just want use my downloaded animation only (and keep animation installed in small numbers)

thanks

Yes, it is.

@Nymra has a mod for this purpose (and there are also some SLAL packs to restore them as sla packages).

 

[NicoleDragoness]

Right.

[zhuguannan123]

I still don't quite understand what this mod fixes, oh my shitty english

[OsmelMC]

9 hours ago, iDREIS MAD said:

@OsmelMCis that possible to delete original animation pack from SexLabFrameework? 

I just want use my downloaded animation only (and keep animation installed in small numbers)

thanks

Is not the best idea but is possible.

 

The default animations don't get registered on SexLab unless the package be registered on FNIS. So you can remove the FNIS files that comes with the SexLab and that should be enough to prevent the registration.

 

You don't even need a patch for that.

 

Another way to prevent the registration of animations is using the Black List of SexLab on the last page of the SexLab MCM. But the blacklist don't remove the animations from FNIS is good only to ignore one or few animations of a big animation pack that you use to keep updated. For example my black list have the small dragon animations and few other animations that are senseless for my game but comes with big animation packs i use and is annoying disable it each time I update the package of animations.

 

 

 

By the way, i don't like the idea of remove the default animations because some Mods relays on those animations for specific scenes, like kissing.

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by OsmelMC

[NicoleDragoness]

6 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Mods relays on those animations for specific scenes, like kissing.

Old mods NEED to be updated, then.

Billyy has two wonderful kissing animations (MF and FF) that are million light years better than the ones coming with SL.

 

BTW: removed default animations CAN be re-added later as SLAL packs with all the advantages of this system.

Edited February 25, 2023 by NicoleDragoness

[NicoleDragoness]

It seems there is a problem with the "Advanced Furniture" option.

It is faster than the standard one (not much but faster) but it doesn't work for "Wall" type furnitures.

 

To deep check it, I prepared a room with one table (Table), one front chair (Chair), one noble high chair (throne), one high noble library (Wall), one tanning rack (Wall) and a couple of noble bed (single and double).

The system highlights correctly every single piece and the pop-up lists all them.

Choosing "Wall", indeed, result always into a chair animation (into a chair furniture, of course).

All the other choices, instead, work as espected.

 

I'm using the latest SLU+ into LE 32bit environment.

 

Note that the above "Wall" type furnitures are correctly used (randomly but they are sometimes) using the "Standard" furniture system so it is not a furniture problem but something related to the scripts (or the messages, or whatever) inside the "Adavanced" one.

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

It seems there is a problem with the "Advanced Furniture" option.

It is faster than the standard one (not much but faster) but it doesn't work for "Wall" type furnitures.

 

To deep check it, I prepared a room with one table (Table), one front chair (Chair), one noble high chair (throne), one high noble library (Wall), one tanning rack (Wall) and a couple of noble bed (single and double).

The system highlights correctly every single piece and the pop-up lists all them.

Choosing "Wall", indeed, result always into a chair animation (into a chair furniture, of course).

All the other choices, instead, work as espected.

 

I'm using the latest SLU+ into LE 32bit environment.

 

Note that the above "Wall" type furnitures are correctly used (randomly but they are sometimes) using the "Standard" furniture system so it is not a furniture problem but something related to the scripts (or the messages, or whatever) inside the "Adavanced" one.

 

 Send me the "papyrus.0.log" and make sure of use the click of the mouse to select the furniture, because the keyboard can hit buttons that are hidden.

Edited February 26, 2023 by OsmelMC

[NicoleDragoness]

I always use mouse click on those asking messages.

Tried again three times, no luck. This time three furnitures highlighted: Library (as Wall), Table (as Table) and High Chair (as Throne). Every time selected "Wall" clicking on it with mouse.

Every time the resulting animation was a standard on on place (floor). No other furnitures involved.

 

Papyrus Log attached.Papyrus.0.log

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

I always use mouse click on those asking messages.

Tried again three times, no luck. This time three furnitures highlighted: Library (as Wall), Table (as Table) and High Chair (as Throne). Every time selected "Wall" clicking on it with mouse.

Every time the resulting animation was a standard on on place (floor). No other furnitures involved.

 

Papyrus Log attached.Papyrus.0.log

Need another log. That one was too short and apparently the DebugMode of the SexLab was disabled because I can't see any SexLab log except for one error with the furniture 4C007C89 that don't have 3D Loaded.

 

Enable the DebugMode, send me another log and let me know which Mod is the 4C on your plugins load order 

Edited February 26, 2023 by OsmelMC

[NicoleDragoness]

That's very strange because the DebugMode of SexLab WAS enabled.

 

4C is about Breezehome by Lupus mod. The error could be because I deleted some useless clutters but, infact, the ID you gave me, 4C007C89, is the noble doublebed coming with the mod (Base ID Skyrim.esm: FURN 0003B6E8). So the error is strange too because that bed is in place and working.

Edited February 26, 2023 by NicoleDragoness

[wiffe]

after i update from the 1229 to 0218, i cant equip tongue again.. and whn try to change tongue 1 to 2 my settings being "None"..
any chance to fix it?