Dark Arena

[Browo]

Hi, thanks for this amazing mod, I install this together with Pama's Prison and Simple Slavery, everything run as it supposed to be,

had lots of lag when first time arrive in the arena, but after 5-7 minutes the lags were only happens occasionally, especially in the bar area.

 

At first, all the animations are not playing, it turns out i haven't start the Sex Lab in MCM,

after turning it on, all animation runs perfectly, except when my character stand to close to a wall, the animation still run, but both my character and the client are clipping through the walls.

 

Also the whore job only require my character to serve 3 person, while in the journal it was stated 5 person.

 

And my character doesn't wear the slave collar, even though its in the inventory.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Browo
Little typo

[Delzaron]

On 9/27/2021 at 5:29 AM, Browo said:

Hi, thanks for this amazing mod, I install this together with Pama's Prison and Simple Slavery, everything run as it supposed to be,

had lots of lag when first time arrive in the arena, but after 5-7 minutes the lags were only happens occasionally, especially in the bar area.

 

At first, all the animations are not playing, it turns out i haven't start the Sex Lab in MCM,

after turning it on, all animation runs perfectly, except when my character stand to close to a wall, the animation still run, but both my character and the client are clipping through the walls.

 

Also the whore job only require my character to serve 3 person, while in the journal it was stated 5 person.

 

And my character doesn't wear the slave collar, even though its in the inventory.

 

I don't master anims at all...

 

I know, there is some text errors missed (It was 5 first, but I reduced to 3 because it was too long).

[bcstv]

Would be nice if with the SS++ integration events, you can just bail yourself out by pitfighting (or either one of the three jobs that would fit your PC's character) and not forced to go through all three activities. Also would be very nice if rape is not the only outcome for the loser... maybe a choice for other forms of humiliation, like whipping, hanging/restraining (ZaZ stuff), or stripping (in case you go in armored), instead? Just so the mod can be more varied to other playstyles depending on how sexual you want to be, more choices really.

 

Just a suggession, if you're still working on this mod.

[TheArchlich]

I'm stuck with the quest.

I have a quest to investigate the in in Riften, but there is nothing there. There is no quest marker either.

I started the mod in the Whiterun in and that's it. Very confusing. What do I need to find in the Riften inn?

I tried asking the barkeeper but the is no dialogue from this mod.

[Delzaron]

On 11/2/2021 at 9:28 AM, bcstv said:

Would be nice if with the SS++ integration events, you can just bail yourself out by pitfighting (or either one of the three jobs that would fit your PC's character) and not forced to go through all three activities. Also would be very nice if rape is not the only outcome for the loser... maybe a choice for other forms of humiliation, like whipping, hanging/restraining (ZaZ stuff), or stripping (in case you go in armored), instead? Just so the mod can be more varied to other playstyles depending on how sexual you want to be, more choices really.

 

Just a suggession, if you're still working on this mod.

 

Hum, it can be a nice addition.. but i can see also some problems.

- i didn't tried SS+ fro long, it crashed all my saves... so I don't know if a SS+ integration in DA is possible.

- restrains can be difficult in such a mod... it will forbid you others activites, and there is no keys or npc who can unlock you in the dark arena. being stripped in the arena can be simply added. whipping... i don't know, it's not my taste.

 

15 hours ago, TheArchlich said:

I'm stuck with the quest.

I have a quest to investigate the in in Riften, but there is nothing there. There is no quest marker either.

I started the mod in the Whiterun in and that's it. Very confusing. What do I need to find in the Riften inn?

I tried asking the barkeeper but the is no dialogue from this mod.

 

You can get a script error : retry.

The dark arena is not indicated by purpose. Explore the sewers (forst level, before the ragging flaggon). The entry door is discreet.

[naber88]

As soon as I enter through the door of the dark arena, the game suddenly closes. Do you think I have the problem or is there something else? It doesn't give any errors, it just throws it.

[bcstv]

On 11/7/2021 at 6:09 PM, Delzaron said:

 

Hum, it can be a nice addition.. but i can see also some problems.

- i didn't tried SS+ fro long, it crashed all my saves... so I don't know if a SS+ integration in DA is possible.

- restrains can be difficult in such a mod... it will forbid you others activites, and there is no keys or npc who can unlock you in the dark arena. being stripped in the arena can be simply added. whipping... i don't know, it's not my taste.

 

- I can confirm that SS+ integration works fine, but if that means difficulty on your end then I understand your choice not to harm your system. Although at the same time, I'm also pretty sure that SS+ integrated scenario is basically just the sual 'DA's slave' route that you'd get if you're in debt from gambling. So I think you can just work on that, and don't mind about SS+, if you wish to do (which I would appreciate).

 

- I meant 'restraints' as in general english term, not as in Devious Devices stuff (not a big fan of thos either). ZaZ stuff don't require keys or anything as they're just for idles for roleplay's sake. Maybe have you get hanged up for a while, while fights go on/people cheering in the arena, kinda like in movies? would be cool and dynamic, as fights would go on even if you dont trigger them by placing a bet. Just an idea.

 

And might I also suggest a type of match where both are always unarmed?

 

Other than that, I can respect your taste. Thanks for hearing me out anyway. Cheers and great job.

Edited November 10, 2021 by bcstv

[Delzaron]

On 11/9/2021 at 8:31 AM, naber88 said:

As soon as I enter through the door of the dark arena, the game suddenly closes. Do you think I have the problem or is there something else? It doesn't give any errors, it just throws it.

check the logs.

Or go into CK, and remove/change the dancers clothe.

[Spectre5342]

The performance inside Dark Arena is unusually demanding. And when I save the game it crashes to desktop before the save can be made. I do have a generally powerful PC but I do have some texture mods installed don't see how those could be affecting Dark Arena this heavily though. Even with a minimal load order and settings lowered as far as they'll go performance is still glitchy and it still crashes when saving the game.

[Delzaron]

1 minute ago, Spectre5342 said:

The performance inside Dark Arena is unusually demanding. And when I save the game it crashes to desktop before the save can be made. I do have a generally powerful PC but I do have some texture mods installed don't see how those could be affecting Dark Arena this heavily though. Even with a minimal load order and settings lowered as far as they'll go performance is still glitchy and it still crashes when saving the game.

The question is : why ?

The cell is small...

[Delzaron]

A thing to try : try to supress al the lights in CK, and try to entrer in the dark arena in game.

[Delzaron]

By the way, do you know where I can a more appropriate music ambiance ? skyrim inn music doesn't not fit very well the place...

I wish something... darker, something which fit a dark alley bar...

Edited November 10, 2021 by Delzaron

[Spectre5342]

6 hours ago, Delzaron said:

By the way, do you know where I can a more appropriate music ambiance ? skyrim inn music doesn't not fit very well the place...

I wish something... darker, something which fit a dark alley bar...

The only "dark ambience" I can think of are some dungeons or Castle Volkihar but that doesn't really fit. I probably have some candidates some where I'll get back to you on that just don't know their names right now. As far as changing lights in CK luckily I have experience doing that in in Fallout 4 once spent dozens of hours in a cell probably won't be as hard this time since its just light sources. 

[Delzaron]

5 hours ago, Spectre5342 said:

The only "dark ambience" I can think of are some dungeons or Castle Volkihar but that doesn't really fit. I probably have some candidates some where I'll get back to you on that just don't know their names right now. As far as changing lights in CK luckily I have experience doing that in in Fallout 4 once spent dozens of hours in a cell probably won't be as hard this time since its just light sources. 

I'm working on dark arena. I removed all the lights and replaced some of them by simply camplights.

I also modified the blackjack script, more POO (hope it will work), and properly implement the paydept in the game results, if player gain money.

 

For the pitfight, i could implement this : if player is not fighting nude, player is tripped of her outfit instead of being raped.

The outfit could be given to the loaner, and you'll need to pay a fee to take it back.

[Spectre5342]

8 hours ago, Delzaron said:

I'm working on dark arena. I removed all the lights and replaced some of them by simply camplights.

I also modified the blackjack script, more POO (hope it will work), and properly implement the paydept in the game results, if player gain money.

 

For the pitfight, i could implement this : if player is not fighting nude, player is tripped of her outfit instead of being raped.

The outfit could be given to the loaner, and you'll need to pay a fee to take it back.

I was gonna fix the lights myself but having some odd issues with installing Creation Kit will spare you the details on that cause holy shit idk what's going on. Anyways I'll just wait since you're all ready doing the lights and other parts of the mod really big fan of your work by the way keep up the good work. Did you ever have any issues installing CK for Skyrim and Fallout 4? I didn't in the past for Fallout 4 but this time for some reason I am. Just gonna uninstall the whole launcher and try again. I can get more specific on my issues but gonna wait a bit.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Spectre5342

[Delzaron]

1 hour ago, Spectre5342 said:

I was gonna fix the lights myself but having some odd issues with installing Creation Kit will spare you the details on that cause holy shit idk what's going on. Anyways I'll just wait since you're all ready doing the lights and other parts of the mod really big fan of your work by the way keep up the good work. Did you ever have any issues installing CK for Skyrim and Fallout 4? I didn't in the past for Fallout 4 but this time for some reason I am. Just gonna uninstall the whole launcher and try again. I can get more specific on my issues but gonna wait a bit.

 

Never tried for fallout 4.

Yes, I could get problems with skyrim. You need to install it with a precise order (skse, skuui, all this).

[pinkfluf]

Are these candlelights that are causing an issue? When I do the break of dawn quest and before the boss fight (in the room with loads of candles) my fps tanks. What I did to alleviate this is... (assuming you have an enb)

 

in enbseries.ini change from true to false

 

[COMPLEXPARTICLELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

[COMPLEXFIRELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

Hope it helps.

[Spectre5342]

2 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

Never tried for fallout 4.

Yes, I could get problems with skyrim. You need to install it with a precise order (skse, skuui, all this).

I wasn't reading correctly the CK I was using was for Special Edition Oldrim's is in Steam. Also had to reinstall Bethesda net itself to get Fallout 4's CK working again. Still busy trying to get some other stuff working but I'll go in and delete some of the lights later its gonna look goofey though as I just delete but don't add new things.

[Spectre5342]

39 minutes ago, pinkfluf said:

Are these candlelights that are causing an issue? When I do the break of dawn quest and before the boss fight (in the room with loads of candles) my fps tanks. What I did to alleviate this is... (assuming you have an enb)

 

in enbseries.ini change from true to false

 

[COMPLEXPARTICLELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

[COMPLEXFIRELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

Hope it helps.

I was just turning off the enb when inside Dark Arena since it can be done at any time in game but I'll look into that. My PC is pretty decent but Skyrim isn't exactly optimized thanks Bethesda.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Spectre5342

[Wut1969]

My previous PC got sold to the Dark Arena and she had to fight in the pit. But as she was a thief with almost no fighting experience -and- under the influence of Seblab Survival, she had no chance at all. So after a few seconds of pointless performance, she screen faded to black and she was back at Sexlab Slavery++.

I have no idea if that was supposed to happen (I guess not), but the effect was that the DA fight was never properly ended and everytime my PC got into fights Dark Arena kept tried to interfer with Defeat and everything broke down a bit.

I think it had to do with Survival lowering the stats and either Defeat or Dark Arena not recognising that, so my PC died because of low health but acturally didn't.

 

It is possible that nobody else will ever run into this, but maybe it is an idea that Dark Arena fights get a time limit? So that if anything goes wrong, the quest ends itself after an hour or so?

 

[SexyTop69]

I have a question, Is anyone still converting this mod for SSE? Went through the forums searching not sure exactly is going on.

[Spectre5342]

Just tried the new version and its looking and running great. There are a few issues I noticed though like after Liskit lets you out of the cell turn right and look at the floor there's a gap between the rocks in the hallway allowing you to see outside the cell. The blackjack cards also look like they are missing textures. Just minor stuff though you've done such great work on the mod I loved it. Dumb question though who do I talk to in order to leave Dark Arena once I've paid my debt? There isn't a door to enter or leave Dark Arena as far as I can tell so must be a person that initiates teleporting in and out of the cell.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Spectre5342

[Delzaron]

On 11/11/2021 at 9:47 PM, pinkfluf said:

Are these candlelights that are causing an issue? When I do the break of dawn quest and before the boss fight (in the room with loads of candles) my fps tanks. What I did to alleviate this is... (assuming you have an enb)

 

in enbseries.ini change from true to false

 

[COMPLEXPARTICLELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

[COMPLEXFIRELIGHTS]
EnableBigRange=false

 

Hope it helps.

 

Interesting. I'll supress them and upload a new verion, we'll see the change.

 

On 11/11/2021 at 10:26 PM, Spectre5342 said:

I was just turning off the enb when inside Dark Arena since it can be done at any time in game but I'll look into that. My PC is pretty decent but Skyrim isn't exactly optimized thanks Bethesda.

I use and enb, default settings.

[Delzaron]

20 hours ago, Spectre5342 said:

Just tried the new version and its looking and running great. There are a few issues I noticed though like after Liskit lets you out of the cell turn right and look at the floor there's a gap between the rocks in the hallway allowing you to see outside the cell. The blackjack cards also look like they are missing textures. Just minor stuff though you've done such great work on the mod I loved it. Dumb question though who do I talk to in order to leave Dark Arena once I've paid my debt? There isn't a door to enter or leave Dark Arena as far as I can tell so must be a person that initiates teleporting in and out of the cell.

pic please for the missing/gaps ?

 

When you payed all your depts in the dark arena, just talk to the argonian guard at the exit (there is only one).

But if you want to take back your gear, you need to talk to the moneylender (an argonian, again), and give him 2000 septims. I know you were also stripped of your money... you can recover it by working and gambling !

[bcstv]

On 11/12/2021 at 9:45 PM, Wut1969 said:

My previous PC got sold to the Dark Arena and she had to fight in the pit. But as she was a thief with almost no fighting experience -and- under the influence of Seblab Survival, she had no chance at all. So after a few seconds of pointless performance, she screen faded to black and she was back at Sexlab Slavery++.

I have no idea if that was supposed to happen (I guess not), but the effect was that the DA fight was never properly ended and everytime my PC got into fights Dark Arena kept tried to interfer with Defeat and everything broke down a bit.

I think it had to do with Survival lowering the stats and either Defeat or Dark Arena not recognising that, so my PC died because of low health but acturally didn't.

 

It is possible that nobody else will ever run into this, but maybe it is an idea that Dark Arena fights get a time limit? So that if anything goes wrong, the quest ends itself after an hour or so?

 

 

I've had something similar to this, but in my case I was sent to a different scenario instead of SS+ and I simply reloaded a quicksave pre-fight so never noticed that issue. But the point is that this mod seems to be a bit too extreme when it comes to the actual gameplay ie too lethal so that you'd fuck the loser or get fucked. Especially since weapons are randomaised (with a chance of getting none while going against a sledgehammer lol). Thats why I'm suggesting an 'unarmed' mode to give a fairer chance to all types of playstyle.