Dark Arena

[bcstv]

Is this mod incompatible with any other mods? I've noticed sinve the old version some objects overlapping (flashing between two textures) mainly on some floors and ceiling in between rooms. Also on the walls of the main pit area there's a lighting glitch. Like a shadow flashing on and off.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2021 by bcstv

[bcstv]

Also, I'm encountering quite an annoying glitch.

In the quest where I'm supposed to talk to the lead dancer to get a job. I talked to her, but she kept on dancing and doesn't walk to the private room. I can't progress.

Same goes if you're hiring for a private show while the dancer is dancing.

[Betaaa]

On 7/20/2021 at 5:18 PM, Delzaron said:

 

Sounds like the dress problem. Try to remove it from the dancers in CK (just delete or replace the dress by something else, like wench outfit), and reload. See if it make a change.

thank you. I dont know how to use Creation Kit but i try to figure it out

[Iceslave]

On 7/23/2021 at 11:50 AM, bcstv said:

EDIT: Nevermind, got it working now. I don't know how to package the port for sharing tho so I guess it's actually easier to do it on your own.

 

Same here !

[Delzaron]

17 hours ago, Betaaa said:

thank you. I dont know how to use Creation Kit but i try to figure it out

 

On 7/23/2021 at 3:22 PM, bcstv said:

Is this mod incompatible with any other mods? I've noticed sinve the old version some objects overlapping (flashing between two textures) mainly on some floors and ceiling in between rooms. Also on the walls of the main pit area there's a lighting glitch. Like a shadow flashing on and off.

 

 

 

Again ? The quest package is supposed to take the lead and put her away from the dancing pole...

I'll see what I can do.

 

 

Ye,s there is some textures overlapping. The doors entries for example. I tried to hide that with some rugs. It's due to the arena structure : the riften stuff is not designed to set two big halls strutures nearby, it should there be some corridors between.

[bcstv]

4 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

Again ? The quest package is supposed to take the lead and put her away from the dancing pole...

I'll see what I can do.

 

 

Ye,s there is some textures overlapping. The doors entries for example. I tried to hide that with some rugs. It's due to the arena structure : the riften stuff is not designed to set two big halls strutures nearby, it should there be some corridors between.

I've managed to work around that by, iirc, using Puppet Master spells on her so I could have some control over her, then release. (or maybe I spawned a clone of her, i can't remember for sure but both solutions worked). She still seems broken, though, as right now after her role in the 'private' room she just stands there and never come out to do her job anymore. Another way is to use command 'recycleactor', but then she's just completely broken and have to use moveto command to move her into the room. Immersion breaking.

The visual clipping in the video only happens in the 1.33+ version. Not sure if because the adjusted lighting, or just a glitch from my end, porting to SE myself. Not too worrying.

Anyway, the more concerning glitch is what I originally posted in #423. I'm stuck after winning the blackjack game. No quest updates, and setstaging doesn't work. The same for both 1.2+ and 1.33+ version. A lot of times, the blackjack game won't start at all, for that matter. When I sit on the chair, my PC immediately stands up, and the nobles don't start their dialogue. I have to repeatedly quickload to before the quest start to just rarely get it properly running.

You should try moving Vlad away from right beside the seat, too. His idle monologues is very interrupting.

Thanks. Very nice concept. Execution is almost there.
 

Edited July 25, 2021 by bcstv

[Delzaron]

Tested Maede package ; no prlblem, she walk to the meetin g point.

The problem is : if she engages in a dance, you need to wait she finish the dance animation (the character will fall on ground).

 

If Maede is engaged in prostitution activity with the loaner, that's a problem. Just kill and resurrect her by console. I'll add a blocker to the Loaner to avoid that.

 

Played the blackjack game. No problem at all.

 

Some minor stuff : the container on Raelag desk, which in floating in air... and a small void between a wall and a stair.

 

 

Anybody could help me to fix the lights ? the solution I made is not very sucessfull.

 

[bcstv]

15 hours ago, Delzaron said:

Tested Maede package ; no prlblem, she walk to the meetin g point.

The problem is : if she engages in a dance, you need to wait she finish the dance animation (the character will fall on ground).

 

If Maede is engaged in prostitution activity with the loaner, that's a problem. Just kill and resurrect her by console. I'll add a blocker to the Loaner to avoid that.

 

Played the blackjack game. No problem at all.

 

Some minor stuff : the container on Raelag desk, which in floating in air... and a small void between a wall and a stair.

 

 

Anybody could help me to fix the lights ? the solution I made is not very sucessfull.

 

Sorry for the confusion, but I was actually talking about Alarvyne. Maede's fine. Still, though I suggest there should be a debug menu to make dancers exit their animations because I've tried waiting for hours (both idling and 'T') and they're still dancing.

Blackjack's a huge problem in my game. Which is why I'm trying the 'work' route instead atm. Can you please explain a little further, if I win the blackjack game, what is supposed to happen? In my case I did receive 12000 and the blackjack quest ends, but the main questline is still 'Get Details from Raelag', which is me asking him 'What exactly as I supposed to do' and he talks about blackjack and VIP visitor. This is where I'm stuck right now.

I'm on SE, though. If that helps anything.

EDIT: Nevermind. For some reason Setstaging works just one time, and I completed the quest.

FEEDBACK after finishing the quest: I still wish there was more to the winning outcome though, just for extra twist, like maybe the boss lied and he let Fredis go but you are now forced to work as a slave in place of her, or something. We don't get NSFW mods expecting such a happy ending, do we? Also, would be way cooler if you actually first met Fredis by seeing her come in the arena as a pitgirl and, and have Irillen introduces her to the whole room, rather than getting all info from Maede.

One question, though. I kinda have the blackjack quest 'GameTable' quest stuck in my journal, and setstaging 70 always leads to SS+/SkWh outcome therefore I can't just remove the quest without consequences. Any idea to debug that?
 

Edited July 28, 2021 by bcstv

[Shinobi7]

Fps totally drops as I enter Dark Arena cell. Becomes so low that i can't even hit escape.  Is there a fix?

[Delzaron]

14 hours ago, bcstv said:

Sorry for the confusion, but I was actually talking about Alarvyne. Maede's fine. Still, though I suggest there should be a debug menu to make dancers exit their animations because I've tried waiting for hours (both idling and 'T') and they're still dancing.

Blackjack's a huge problem in my game. Which is why I'm trying the 'work' route instead atm. Can you please explain a little further, if I win the blackjack game, what is supposed to happen? In my case I did receive 12000 and the blackjack quest ends, but the main questline is still 'Get Details from Raelag', which is me asking him 'What exactly as I supposed to do' and he talks about blackjack and VIP visitor. This is where I'm stuck right now.

I'm on SE, though. If that helps anything.

EDIT: Nevermind. For some reason Setstaging works just one time, and I completed the quest.

FEEDBACK after finishing the quest: I still wish there was more to the winning outcome though, just for extra twist, like maybe the boss lied and he let Fredis go but you are now forced to work as a slave in place of her, or something. We don't get NSFW mods expecting such a happy ending, do we? Also, would be way cooler if you actually first met Fredis by seeing her come in the arena as a pitgirl and, and have Irillen introduces her to the whole room, rather than getting all info from Maede.

One question, though. I kinda have the blackjack quest 'GameTable' quest stuck in my journal, and setstaging 70 always leads to SS+/SkWh outcome therefore I can't just remove the quest without consequences. Any idea to debug that?
 

 

I thought about an alternative scenario to deal with Raelag, more sexual (the "entertain a noble and get infos").

 

I like your idea to get the info from an event like the Arena, than just gamble and work in the arena.

 

It seems your blocked by the fonction "playerfate" which lead to stage 100, the end of the black jack quest.

 

Function PlayerFate()
    Int Roll = utility.randomint(1, 2)
    int i = 0
    
    If roll == 1
        bool SimpleSlaverymodInstalled = Game.GetModByName("SimpleSlavery.esp")
        if SimpleSlaverymodInstalled == true
            debug.messagebox("They deciced to sold me to a slave market!")
              sendModEvent("SSLV Entry")
        elseif SimpleSlaverymodInstalled == false
            PlayerFate()
        endIf
    elseIf roll == 2
        bool SexLabSkoomaWhoremodInstalled = Game.GetModByName("SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp")
        if SexLabSkoomaWhoremodInstalled == true
            debug.messagebox("They deciced to put lot of skooma in my thorat, and throw me in the sewer like a garbage!")
            while i < 11
                  playerref.equipitem(Skooma, 1)
                utility.wait(0.1)
                i += 1
            endwhile
            playerref.moveto(RatwayTriggerRef)
        elseif SexLabSkoomaWhoremodInstalled == false
            PlayerFate()
        endIf
    elseIf roll == 3
        (aDA_Main as aDA_MainScript).EnslavePlayer()    
    EndIf

EndFunction

 

The scrtipt is executed only oif you play the blackjack quest whitouth the main quest.

Maybe you met a problem with skoomawhore part...

 

5 hours ago, Shinobi7 said:

Fps totally drops as I enter Dark Arena cell. Becomes so low that i can't even hit escape.  Is there a fix?

 

I don't know... the lights, the dancer outfit... or the events...

I don't meet the problem, so I don't know... if somebody have an idea, his help and enlightment will be welcomed.

[Delzaron]

Ok...

 

Added an atlternative end : if you're in dept, earn too lot of money in the casino, or be a "valuable asset" (allowed to perform the private jobs), and win the blackjack, you'll free Fredis... but you'll be enslaved with 1000 septims as dept to repay. And stripped of all your gold, of course...

 

Added : being "casted" by Alarvyne

The first time you'll work in the Arena, if you fight nude, and if you're between stages 100 and 150 in aDA0_start quest, you'll face Fredis as pitgirl. aDA0_Start will update to stage 110.

 

Next plans : Maybe an alternative quest to the blackjack stuff.

 

After that, except the ligths, the mod will be considered finished... and I'll move on something else. Surely AFS.

I ask again who can help me to fix the lights ?

 

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Delzaron

[KUROLizard]

On 7/30/2021 at 12:39 AM, Delzaron said:

Ok...

 

Added an atlternative end : if you're in dept, earn too lot of money in the casino, or be a "valuable asset" (allowed to perform the private jobs), and win the blackjack, you'll free Fredis... but you'll be enslaved with 1000 septims as dept to repay. And stripped of all your gold, of course...

Wait, so if we earn too much money at the casino, we'll trigger this alternate ending?

[Delzaron]

4 hours ago, KUROLizard said:

Wait, so if we earn too much money at the casino, we'll trigger this alternate ending?

Yes. The casino wants his money back. But earning 20K septims in this mod is hard...

[KUROLizard]

2 hours ago, Delzaron said:

Yes. The casino wants his money back. But earning 20K septims in this mod is hard...

Neat. Also, I don't seem to be able to get hints from the guards. I've been asking the Ivarstead guards, should I be talking to guards in other holds? I know there's a debug option, but I want to try and make this work. 

Edited July 31, 2021 by KUROLizard

[bcstv]

On 7/31/2021 at 3:27 PM, Delzaron said:

Yes. The casino wants his money back. But earning 20K septims in this mod is hard...

I really like the idea of that, and if done to a certain completion, I think I would also happily feel that this mod is well-rounded, finished, narratively, at least. One thing, though. I think that 20K is a bit too much, even if you take the gamble route. The worker route would bepractically impossible, as for me I already feel like the worker route is tough enough just to pass the original amount to meet the boss in the first place.

From a finished-player feedback (who played both original routes), I'd say 3K-5K is already enough to get the new alternate ending, but at the same time your debt then should be way higher than 1K, because you could make up forthat very quickly by fighting nude. The timescale just don't make sense. You have to spend so much time just to get the alternate ending, which would take multiple in-game days, but a few more matches maybe just a few hours if you win all 4 matches straight. I'd say since you get 17000 from winning blackjack, You would be forced to make up for that by half, 8500, let's make it 8000 septims to ransom yourself out. Seems much more balanced.

I haven't played the current 'new' version, yet, but as I'm reading I understand that Fredis will only come in to arena only if you go fight yourself? I think she should be a pitgirl regardless of your actions,  would be better for a non-sexual playthrough where you don't want your character 'tainted' at first which would make the outcome as you're forced to be the slave even kinkier. Correct me if that is already the case, would be awesome.

Also, just a little issue I've got finishing up the old version. Fredis doens't seem to follow the player, she just stands in boss's office. I had to use console to teleport her back to Ivarstead. Not sure if that is fixed in the new version. Also I've just noticed in the description page that there was supposedto be a Money Lender? I saw his 'station' but he is sitting far behind, so I can't interact with him. Maybe check him out pls.

If the new added part is tweaked up more balancely I'd surely replay this mod!
 

Edited August 1, 2021 by bcstv

[Hexogen]

Sorry if this was addressed before, but I was sent to the dark arena via simple slavery. After a single pit fight my character was set free though which seems a bit early in my opinion. So I reloaded to maybe try different tasks which led to being a slave dancer whore. Again, my character was set free after completing a single quest (3 dances/fucks) which felt too soon. Would it be possible to add more length to the simple slavery part of this mod? If that would be too much trouble, could someone tell me where in the mod I can edit the amount of gold I need to earn or number of quests I need to complete?

[bcstv]

3 hours ago, hexofishy said:

Sorry if this was addressed before, but I was sent to the dark arena via simple slavery. After a single pit fight my character was set free though which seems a bit early in my opinion. So I reloaded to maybe try different tasks which led to being a slave dancer whore. Again, my character was set free after completing a single quest (3 dances/fucks) which felt too soon. Would it be possible to add more length to the simple slavery part of this mod? If that would be too much trouble, could someone tell me where in the mod I can edit the amount of gold I need to earn or number of quests I need to complete?

I can't confirm for sure as I played this mod by its own storyline and not Simple Slavery, but I'm pretty sure the 'debt' is probably the amount you were sold for in the Simple Slave auction, which can be adjusted in SS's MCM menu. You can try that out first while waiting for the author's reply.

[Delzaron]

19 hours ago, bcstv said:

I really like the idea of that, and if done to a certain completion, I think I would also happily feel that this mod is well-rounded, finished, narratively, at least. One thing, though. I think that 20K is a bit too much, even if you take the gamble route. The worker route would bepractically impossible, as for me I already feel like the worker route is tough enough just to pass the original amount to meet the boss in the first place.

From a finished-player feedback (who played both original routes), I'd say 3K-5K is already enough to get the new alternate ending, but at the same time your debt then should be way higher than 1K, because you could make up forthat very quickly by fighting nude. The timescale just don't make sense. You have to spend so much time just to get the alternate ending, which would take multiple in-game days, but a few more matches maybe just a few hours if you win all 4 matches straight. I'd say since you get 17000 from winning blackjack, You would be forced to make up for that by half, 8500, let's make it 8000 septims to ransom yourself out. Seems much more balanced.

I haven't played the current 'new' version, yet, but as I'm reading I understand that Fredis will only come in to arena only if you go fight yourself? I think she should be a pitgirl regardless of your actions,  would be better for a non-sexual playthrough where you don't want your character 'tainted' at first which would make the outcome as you're forced to be the slave even kinkier. Correct me if that is already the case, would be awesome.

Also, just a little issue I've got finishing up the old version. Fredis doens't seem to follow the player, she just stands in boss's office. I had to use console to teleport her back to Ivarstead. Not sure if that is fixed in the new version. Also I've just noticed in the description page that there was supposedto be a Money Lender? I saw his 'station' but he is sitting far behind, so I can't interact with him. Maybe check him out pls.

If the new added part is tweaked up more balancely I'd surely replay this mod!
 

 

Reducing the conditions for the alterntaive end could have sense, yes... I'll see what I can do.

 

For Fredis as normal pitgirl, it's easy to do : just adding her to the pitgirl list. She'll be picked by the script, player fighting or not.

 

Noted the problem with Fredis package...

 

The Money lender package is supposed to make him closer to hos office. I could remove the chair to be sure he'll stand.

 

 

5 hours ago, hexofishy said:

Sorry if this was addressed before, but I was sent to the dark arena via simple slavery. After a single pit fight my character was set free though which seems a bit early in my opinion. So I reloaded to maybe try different tasks which led to being a slave dancer whore. Again, my character was set free after completing a single quest (3 dances/fucks) which felt too soon. Would it be possible to add more length to the simple slavery part of this mod? If that would be too much trouble, could someone tell me where in the mod I can edit the amount of gold I need to earn or number of quests I need to complete?

 

Depends of your dept.

By simple slavery, you got a 1000 septims dept, which is not so big... 3 or 4 quests ar enough. I could push the limit, or add a messagebox to let the player select different amounts of dept (1000, 2500, 5000, 10000 for example).

Liskit have a dialogue to inform you how much gold you need to repay.

 

2 hours ago, bcstv said:

I can't confirm for sure as I played this mod by its own storyline and not Simple Slavery, but I'm pretty sure the 'debt' is probably the amount you were sold for in the Simple Slave auction, which can be adjusted in SS's MCM menu. You can try that out first while waiting for the author's reply.

 

The story line is simple : this mod was not supposed to have any story line in the first place, it was added after.

The dept is independant of SS MCM menu. I don't know and try yet to link the depts forward the two mods. If you have an idea how to do it...

[Delzaron]

Ok...

Money limit for alt end set to 8000 instead of 20000.

Fredis is added to pitgirls lists for player fighting in arena as free or slave.

Fredis moves to the arena corridors.

Checked Fredis package. No problem apparently... I changed a condition to be sure there will no conflict. By the way, You don't need to be followed by Fredis to get your money from her mother, and she'll move herself to Ivarstead inn.

 

Added a script at stage 0 of aDA_Slave.

If you were send in DA slavery and dept = 0 (by simple slavery by example, or other mean), you'll get a message : you can choose your dept between 1000 (default), 2500, 5000, or 10000. If somebody have an idea how I can get the amount of player selling, I'll add it as final option.

 

The loaner is on his desk now...

 

Tested : the message works. And fredis fought in the arena (but she have only a chance on 6 to be selected). You still need to fight her yourself to get the aDA0_start stage 110 (you need to be close enough to identify her).

I also tested the messagebox by sending me to da_slavery by console (setstage ada_slave 0). The messagebox appears.

Edited August 1, 2021 by Delzaron

[bcstv]

17 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

Ok...

Money limit for alt end set to 8000 instead of 20000.

Fredis is added to pitgirls lists for player fighting in arena as free or slave.

Fredis moves to the arena corridors.

Checked Fredis package. No problem apparently... I changed a condition to be sure there will no conflict. By the way, You don't need to be followed by Fredis to get your money from her mother, and she'll move herself to Ivarstead inn.

 

Added a script at stage 0 of aDA_Slave.

If you were send in DA slavery and dept = 0 (by simple slavery by example, or other mean), you'll get a message : you can choose your dept between 1000 (default), 2500, 5000, or 10000. If somebody have an idea how I can get the amount of player selling, I'll add it as final option.

 

The loaner is on his desk now...

 

Tested : the message works. And fredis fought in the arena (but she have only a chance on 6 to be selected). You still need to fight her yourself to get the aDA0_start stage 110 (you need to be close enough to identify her).

I also tested the messagebox by sending me to da_slavery by console (setstage ada_slave 0). The messagebox appears.

Nice, nice! Thanks for the thorough reply, too. I'll definitely be coming back to this mod for sure. A certified must have, for me. NSFW mods with gameplay & story that are not too "out there" are so rarely done to completion. Like if Rockstar made Skyrim, I could definitely see a more tamed version of this being a thing for sure.

[Hexogen]

2 hours ago, bcstv said:

Nice, nice! Thanks for the thorough reply, too. I'll definitely be coming back to this mod for sure. A certified must have, for me. NSFW mods with gameplay & story that are not too "out there" are so rarely done to completion. Like if Rockstar made Skyrim, I could definitely see a more tamed version of this being a thing for sure.

I definitely second this statement. This mod should be a staple for any NSFW load order.

[Aslan.]

Hey there!!

 

Thank you for the mod, it's great, i just have a little issue with lighting, i think there are too many lights sources because lights keep flickering depending on the direction i am facing, i've tried deleting some of them with jaxons positioner but if i exit and enter again in the arena they are still there.... that is the only problem i've had.

 

Apart from that this is amazing, just what i was looking for like two weeks ago but didn't find anything like this, thank you!!

[Ripstop]

If there are more than four shadow casting light sources in view of each other, they will start alternating which are active. I don't know if this is the case with this mod but it is something I have found while modeling world spaces.

[Delzaron]

On 8/3/2021 at 7:53 PM, Aslan. said:

Hey there!!

 

Thank you for the mod, it's great, i just have a little issue with lighting, i think there are too many lights sources because lights keep flickering depending on the direction i am facing, i've tried deleting some of them with jaxons positioner but if i exit and enter again in the arena they are still there.... that is the only problem i've had.

 

Apart from that this is amazing, just what i was looking for like two weeks ago but didn't find anything like this, thank you!!

 

I know... that's the last big problem remaining before I can make the release.

 

22 hours ago, Ripstop said:

If there are more than four shadow casting light sources in view of each other, they will start alternating which are active. I don't know if this is the case with this mod but it is something I have found while modeling world spaces.

Interesting, thank you

 

Problem is the zone have no truly closed spaces in the arena. I'll rework the lights based on your tip.

[gender65]

The mod is interesting,I put it,I played, BUT do something with performance, the fps drops terribly there !!!