Dark Arena

[Delzaron]

Back on modding, ina good phase for now (I'm usually depressed), I replayed this mod...

 

It deserves a basic story, and some fixex/improvements.

 

- about the story, i think something classical : find a missing person kidnaped... you'll get hints to enter in the dark arena, explore the place, meet the boss (work enought and win enough gold !), and deal a pact with him : work or him for few special tasks, in exchange of the girl dad depts clearing.

- the brawl works for player against npc... but not for npc against npc...

- too much need of circulation for player for the brawl... I need to change that.

- dance job end in bugged.

[Delzaron]

A question : what do you prefer about the pit fight ?

- public placed upper the fighters ?

- oublic placed same level of the fighters ?

[wren888]

On 7/20/2019 at 2:34 AM, stabyourit said:

Hmmm.....if this is a mod that includes slavery may I suggest looking into linking it with Simple Slavery as an outcome?

 

On 7/21/2019 at 2:13 PM, Delzaron said:

it's included.

I'm not sure what this means. If it means that Simple Slavery ++ might send you as a slave to the Arena, then I'm interested in trying your mod. However, if it only means that when you gamble and get into debt you might get sent to Simple Slavery, I'm uninterested. It's the gambling part that fails to interest me.

[ttpt]

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

 

I'm not sure what this means. If it means that Simple Slavery ++ might send you as a slave to the Arena, then I'm interested in trying your mod. However, if it only means that when you gamble and get into debt you might get sent to Simple Slavery, I'm uninterested. It's the gambling part that fails to interest me.

 

You cannot add support to get simple slavery to send you to a mod on the target mod.

 

To get simple slavery to send you to a mod, you need to ask the simple slavery maintainer, "To go the other way - sending the player to your mod from SS - pm me. That will need to be added manually."

 

 

Simple Slavery has support for things in the dark for example, which is a far older, bigger and buggier Delzaron mod, So I'm sure delzaron would allow simple slavery to send people to this mod. Delzaron themselves may have to be the one to ask in the Simple Slavery thread of PM possibly

[wren888]

8 minutes ago, ttpt said:

 

You cannot add support to get simple slavery to send you to a mod on the target mod.

 

To get simple slavery to send you to a mod, you need to ask the simple slavery maintainer, "To go the other way - sending the player to your mod from SS - pm me. That will need to be added manually."

 

 

Simple Slavery has support for things in the dark for example, which is a far older, bigger and buggier Delzaron mod, So I'm sure delzaron would allow simple slavery to send people to this mod. Delzaron themselves may have to be the one to ask in the Simple Slavery thread of PM possibly

Yes. That makes sense. Perhaps I should have thought of that. However, I will make the suggestion to HexBolt8 of Simple Slavery fame. Perhaps that will expedite the process.

[Delzaron]

16 hours ago, wren888 said:

Yes. That makes sense. Perhaps I should have thought of that. However, I will make the suggestion to HexBolt8 of Simple Slavery fame. Perhaps that will expedite the process.

 

Thanks, yes, it can be a nice addition.

 

I'll redesign the arena, making less complex (it have three levels for now, I wish to reduce to two, and to design specific quarters for easy circulation...).

For the pit, I think I need to, place public closer to the action...

 

I need to have specific and clear zones :

- the boss

- the bar

- the casino

- the pit

- the "chambers" where the dancers and whore entertain their clients

- staff zones (slaves pens for example)

- private zone, where are the best tables

 

 

[wren888]

1 hour ago, Delzaron said:

 

Thanks, yes, it can be a nice addition.

 

I'll redesign the arena, making less complex (it have three levels for now, I wish to reduce to two, and to design specific quarters for easy circulation...).

For the pit, I think I need to, place public closer to the action...

 

I need to have specific and clear zones :

- the boss

- the bar

- the casino

- the pit

- the "chambers" where the dancers and whore entertain their clients

- staff zones (slaves pens for example)

- private zone, where are the best tables

 

 

Excellent.

 

I suggested this to Hexbolt8, and she responded exactly as ttpt predicted three posts up:

"I'd need a direct request from the mod author.  Some mod makers do not want their mods started from an external source.  Also, an enslavement mod has to be set up to cleanly start with a basic mod event, StartQuest, or SetStage command.  Dark Arena might not be like that; I don't know." --Hexbolt8 4-25-21

I hope that, in my eagerness, I didn't overstep appropriate bounds. I consider you both excellent modders with creative ideas. I look forward to seeing these two mods of yours coordinate further.

[sikamikanico78]

hello there! i have a cdt when i click i want to work as a dancer... anyone info on this?

[Delzaron]

5 minutes ago, sikamikanico78 said:

hello there! i have a cdt when i click i want to work as a dancer... anyone info on this?

 

I don't get it... the dialog don't force you to wear the dress, so the case of ctd by using clothes not compatible with your body is excluded...

log please ?

[Delzaron]

On 4/26/2021 at 7:36 PM, wren888 said:

Excellent.

 

I suggested this to Hexbolt8, and she responded exactly as ttpt predicted three posts up:

"I'd need a direct request from the mod author.  Some mod makers do not want their mods started from an external source.  Also, an enslavement mod has to be set up to cleanly start with a basic mod event, StartQuest, or SetStage command.  Dark Arena might not be like that; I don't know." --Hexbolt8 4-25-21

I hope that, in my eagerness, I didn't overstep appropriate bounds. I consider you both excellent modders with creative ideas. I look forward to seeing these two mods of yours coordinate further.

 

I written to him. He's ok, if I make the quest of course !

 

I'm redisigning the casino... after several trials, the choice I made are :

- a big central room, with the bar and the arena, no true separation between these parts, like it was in the arena first version.

- I keept the casino splitted in two parts... I'll improve the surprise roulette a bit.

- adding a pawn shop, where a guy can give you coin in exchange of your equipment (he'll give you simple clothes in exchange). Ti get back your stuff, you must pay him *4 times more.

- One of the parts is reserved to the stairs to arena, and the whores beds. I also moved here the room for the private whore and dancer jobs.

- the last part need to be redone. It will contains the boss office, the slaves pen.

- arena size was reduced. 3*3 space, no place to hide from the public, who can have better view on the show.

- need to reo the navmeshes, of course...

[sikamikanico78]

28 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

 

I don't get it... the dialog don't force you to wear the dress, so the case of ctd by using clothes not compatible with your body is excluded...

log please ?

hey thanks for the quick reply!  so i gave the dancer clothes with the console and i weared them...no ctd...but when i choose to work as a dancer...the npc says to me here take this and wear...but he is not giving me the item and game CTD   here is my log!

Papyrus.0.log

[Delzaron]

3 hours ago, sikamikanico78 said:

hey thanks for the quick reply!  so i gave the dancer clothes with the console and i weared them...no ctd...but when i choose to work as a dancer...the npc says to me here take this and wear...but he is not giving me the item and game CTD   here is my log!

Papyrus.0.log 4.27 MB · 0 downloads

nothing related to that npc in the log... yu got the rep quest, a jounral entry, something except the ctd ?

[Delzaron]

Ok, I mostly redone the cell :

 

- a big main room, arena and bar

- two small rooms, casino

- room for whores beds, and a stair for the arena (blue side)

- room restricted, lisskit here, and access to slaves pens.

- gutters simplified.

[sikamikanico78]

10 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

nothing related to that npc in the log... yu got the rep quest, a jounral entry, something except the ctd ?

everything worked perfect up to the point i get the CTD i got a message that i can accept quests in the dark arena.. then i spoke tho the barman and if i choose to be a dancer i CTD after 3-5 secs  while if i choose to be (the other thing) i dont get a CTD

[Delzaron]

20 hours ago, sikamikanico78 said:

everything worked perfect up to the point i get the CTD i got a message that i can accept quests in the dark arena.. then i spoke tho the barman and if i choose to be a dancer i CTD after 3-5 secs  while if i choose to be (the other thing) i dont get a CTD

Script corrupted maybe ? sound sstrange, but I plan to change that quest (a job interview with one of the dancers). So we'll see if there is a change.

[Delzaron]

I need to rewrite all the dept system. I used tokens put in a chest... but a globalvariable will be better and more accessible.

[Delzaron]

zDA1.0
Some minor fixes
A init trigger for game table outcome scenarios.
Cell redone
aDA_Radiant_Dancer : fixes
Reworking the dept system by using a global variable
aDA_slave : option to short the slave path... but with a cost.
aDA_Slave : no return of player inventory : you'll need to purchase it back to the moneylender
adding a simple moneylender, 1000 septims for your gear. Recover it by paying 4000 septims.
aDA0_start : tranformed into a true quest line, with a story
aDA_main, guard dialog : reworking Julienne dialogue to let player entry whithout playing the story quest
Dancers dialogues now spend player money, or add dept if player don't have enough
aDA_Slave : modified Lisskit dialogue (player gear is in moneylender hands, possibility to end slavery at stage 20 for a risk to be sold to simple slavery)

[Delzaron]

Advanced a little the aDA0_start quest.

I'm also making a short audition quest for the player when she ask for work for the first time (story quest or not).

Changed dancer Abelone for Maede, with special face and relationship with Cariel.

 

On shedule : simplidy the player gain reputation scripts.

 

the rest of the DA0_Start : meet the boss, made a deal with him...

[Delzaron]

I made a very small audition quest... and some debugs.

There is onlyt the story quest to complete. I hope to finish it this week end.

[Delzaron]

fort the final quest, I wish to create real black jack game.

4 players including the player, the casino is only the dealer.

 

I made a "black jack simplified" by just using int randoms and a single option to draw a card... but this time I wish to create a "real" party.

How I could do that (

(I think I need to create an alias with all, the cards, but how to affect the cards to the players and remove them in the main alias).

 

[Delzaron]

Update done.

Also a small quest for dark arena plyer enslavement via simple slavery.

[user9120975435]

Reading the description I can't help but think of all the comments in Sexist Guards from female bandits about going into the cage with the wolf and getting fleas from them, lol.

[DevilFIN]

Pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen, but immediately when I load or start a new game I get collared and moved to the Dark arena with inventory removed. Also a quest starts telling me I have debts in there and should talk to Lisskit.

[mikesolo1975]

Thanks for the amazing work. 

The SSE version are go update too ? 

[Delzaron]

1 hour ago, DevilFIN said:

Pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen, but immediately when I load or start a new game I get collared and moved to the Dark arena with inventory removed. Also a quest starts telling me I have debts in there and should talk to Lisskit.

Ok, I know why : the quest managing the player enslavement.

I'll change it right away, the mod will be unplayable with that bug.