devious Devious Body Alteration

[Krazyone]

4 hours ago, Cerral said:

it does not work for me. I unlisted my character and then registered again but nothing to do. I do not know what to test anymore.

 

You can check for limiters in mods, that limit breast size. Milk Mod Economy does this, check that Beeing Female isn't limiting the breast size.

 

Milk Mod Economy... it will tell you in [4] brackets, your characters breast size limit. 4 is 4 milk units max, also it has visual breast size in the MCM options.

Beeing female... it has a limit to breast expansion, in its MCM.

 

You can also have multiple mods, that fight to control the breast size. If these are installed...

Beeing female has a switch to switch it off.

Deviously Cursed Loot, has MCM setting to turn on and off breast expansion. Along with Breast control, when wearing Chastity Bra's and Corsets.

Devious Training has some breast training options, although... you shouldn't have that switched on with this mod.

 

There are other mods that fight for control of the breasts, that can work against the breast growth. Having some crazy results.

 

Worst case scenario... your game has glitched out. Something that I've had a few times, when certain features stop working or just go crazy. Loading an earlier save can fix it.

You can try loading an earlier save, and see if the problem is still there.

 

 

That's why I do a new save, every couple of hours.

 

[Cerral]

19 hours ago, Krazyone said:

You can check for limiters in mods, that limit breast size. Milk Mod Economy does this, check that Beeing Female isn't limiting the breast size.

 

Milk Mod Economy... it will tell you in [4] brackets, your characters breast size limit. 4 is 4 milk units max, also it has visual breast size in the MCM options.

Beeing female... it has a limit to breast expansion, in its MCM.

 

You can also have multiple mods, that fight to control the breast size. If these are installed...

Beeing female has a switch to switch it off.

Deviously Cursed Loot, has MCM setting to turn on and off breast expansion. Along with Breast control, when wearing Chastity Bra's and Corsets.

Devious Training has some breast training options, although... you shouldn't have that switched on with this mod.

 

There are other mods that fight for control of the breasts, that can work against the breast growth. Having some crazy results.

 

Worst case scenario... your game has glitched out. Something that I've had a few times, when certain features stop working or just go crazy. Loading an earlier save can fix it.

You can try loading an earlier save, and see if the problem is still there.

 

 

That's why I do a new save, every couple of hours.

 

I don't have Milk mode economy and beeing female in my load order. The only other mod that modify the breast size is estrus chaurus and spider add on. I don't use the option from devious cursed loot for the breast size.

For a previous save, no need, i have this problem since the begining. the other mods that I have that can modify the corpulence of the body are:  Fiil her up, sexlab survival, estrus chaurus and all works fine.

 

But what I do not understand, SLIF detects that devious body works because I have the message of slif that informs me that my character is registered for devious body, but do not take into account the values. I will take a screenshot.

 

some scrren:

 

before starting

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I put a chastity bra and wait. we can see the message from SLIF

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[Krazyone]

That's one badly fitted Chastity Bra, it inflating and your character body is not, could be a bodyslide problem. I don't know if you have or have not done it already, but try Rebuilding your Characters body, in Bodyslide.

Failing that, try reinstalling Bodyslide. Then rebuilding your characters body, in bodyslide.

Try reinstalling your main characters, body. Making sure you select the correct physics.

Try reinstalling HDT physics extension.

Try reinstalling your XP32 Maximum skeleton extended mod, if you use it.

 

 

You could also go into Bodyslide, checking the high and low weight slider on your character, to see the difference between the high and low breast sizes are there.

 

Last thing you could try is, backing up your stuff. Then trying a new game, seeing if the breasts expand, then trying a new game without Devious Body Alteration and seeing if they expand.

Then trying a new game, without SLIF to see if there is expansion. But you don't have many mods, that effect breast size.

 

Also check for double entries, of the same mod. I had 2 of the same mod running together, having not deleted the previous version. The Mod Organizer 2 Profile option, activating them both.

You could check if SLIF is to blame, uninstall Sexlab Inflation Framework and see if it fixed the problem.

From the screenshots, it looks like your SLIF is only barely working on 1 mod, not even showing 1 on the size. Check to see if you have more than 1 mod it should be working on, along with what it is actually working on, in the SLIF MCM menu. By clicking on the List of Mods, drop down menu. On the last screenshot.

 

If you are using Mod Organizer 2, then you could see if the mod is being overwritten and by what. Changing the load order for the mod, and plugins order. That's what I love about Mod Organizer, it makes problem finding, a lot easier.

 

 

There are tons of things that can go wrong, I've been testing out a COSHD and UUNP body type setup for my play - throughs. I succeeded with them both, but my system was too weak for the COSHD body type ( Clams Of Skyrim HD body ), with CTD's happening a lot.

 

I've just done a 100% clean install of Skyrim, 2 weeks ago, after I destroy my game with too much modding. But it gave me the chance to switch to Mod Organizer 2, from Mod Organizer 1, for Skyrim.

 

[Cerral]

On 3/7/2019 at 1:38 PM, Krazyone said:

That's one badly fitted Chastity Bra, it inflating and your character body is not, could be a bodyslide problem. I don't know if you have or have not done it already, but try Rebuilding your Characters body, in Bodyslide.

Failing that, try reinstalling Bodyslide. Then rebuilding your characters body, in bodyslide.

Try reinstalling your main characters, body. Making sure you select the correct physics.

Try reinstalling HDT physics extension.

Try reinstalling your XP32 Maximum skeleton extended mod, if you use it.

 

 

You could also go into Bodyslide, checking the high and low weight slider on your character, to see the difference between the high and low breast sizes are there.

 

Last thing you could try is, backing up your stuff. Then trying a new game, seeing if the breasts expand, then trying a new game without Devious Body Alteration and seeing if they expand.

Then trying a new game, without SLIF to see if there is expansion. But you don't have many mods, that effect breast size.

 

Also check for double entries, of the same mod. I had 2 of the same mod running together, having not deleted the previous version. The Mod Organizer 2 Profile option, activating them both.

You could check if SLIF is to blame, uninstall Sexlab Inflation Framework and see if it fixed the problem.

From the screenshots, it looks like your SLIF is only barely working on 1 mod, not even showing 1 on the size. Check to see if you have more than 1 mod it should be working on, along with what it is actually working on, in the SLIF MCM menu. By clicking on the List of Mods, drop down menu. On the last screenshot.

 

If you are using Mod Organizer 2, then you could see if the mod is being overwritten and by what. Changing the load order for the mod, and plugins order. That's what I love about Mod Organizer, it makes problem finding, a lot easier.

 

 

There are tons of things that can go wrong, I've been testing out a COSHD and UUNP body type setup for my play - throughs. I succeeded with them both, but my system was too weak for the COSHD body type ( Clams Of Skyrim HD body ), with CTD's happening a lot.

 

I've just done a 100% clean install of Skyrim, 2 weeks ago, after I destroy my game with too much modding. But it gave me the chance to switch to Mod Organizer 2, from Mod Organizer 1, for Skyrim.

 

Sorry not answer before but i was a bit busy and it was very difficult to connect to the site.

I already reinstall bodyslide, xpmse, hdt et rebuild my body. Until now I never had problem. I saw my body change and that was enough for me. I use estrus chaurus for a long time and the breasts sometimes became very big with the option "residual growth". To see the changes is good but it is not enough now. I use MO1 but I not sure if I build my body correctly. Since I can not find a recent guide to correctly use  bodyslide with mod organizer, I do it a little tedious according to different guide I saw.

 

I will reinstall bodyslide, again, to be sure, and I will build the body differently. I really want to solve this problem. I want to be able to use DBA SLIF and disparity correctly.

[Krazyone]

5 hours ago, Cerral said:

Sorry not answer before but i was a bit busy and it was very difficult to connect to the site.

I already reinstall bodyslide, xpmse, hdt et rebuild my body. Until now I never had problem. I saw my body change and that was enough for me. I use estrus chaurus for a long time and the breasts sometimes became very big with the option "residual growth". To see the changes is good but it is not enough now. I use MO1 but I not sure if I build my body correctly. Since I can not find a recent guide to correctly use  bodyslide with mod organizer, I do it a little tedious according to different guide I saw.

 

I will reinstall bodyslide, again, to be sure, and I will build the body differently. I really want to solve this problem. I want to be able to use DBA SLIF and disparity correctly.

Mod Organizer 2 is great, but tough to set up. Mod Organizer 1 has to be set up differently than Mod Organizer 2. Youtube has great videos on it.

To set up the bodyslide after its installed, the easiest way is to do it all in one go.

 

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Set up... BATCH BUILDING all the stuff...

 

1. Press Preview button

2. Press at bottom left, BUILD MORPHS

3. PRESET... select your body type, CBBE Curvy is best with Devious Devices.

4. OUTFIT/BODY select your body type for in game. I use COS, but you will be best with CBBE Body HDT or CBBE Body TBBP. They've got Jiggle physics, if you have HDT Physics Extensions installed.

5. In the PREVIEW window, slide the 0 - 100 slider up and down, to make sure the body is scaling up and down with the slider. ( weight slider )

6. Hit BATCH BUILD

7. Select the slider sets, I untick the NEVER NUDE and CalUndies stuff. Which means you will get a naked body first time.

8. Select the various choices, they will be for body used, and various outfit alternate versions, or varying bodyslides for outfits and bodies.

 

Building single items...

1. Press Preview button

2. Press at bottom left, BUILD MORPHS

3. PRESET... select your body type, CBBE Curvy is best with Devious Devices.

4. OUTFIT/BODY   select your body or outfit that you want to alter, check the PREVIEW window, and slide the weight slider up and down to check the weights.

5. BUILD    this will build a single item.

 

Exit out of Bodyslide, start game and see if you have any success.

 

There is a lot that can go wrong, in a normal game.

1. CBBE can get messed up, and need reinstalling.

2. Stuff can overwrite your mods, 1 mod in the wrong place, can mess everything up. Frostfall is bad for this, the warmth rating not working if its not set up in the correct order. That's where Mod Organizer shines...

3. Game, save files and mod files can get corrupted. I've had that just recently, twice, with my over modded game.

 

 

Just some ideas for possible fixes...

 

 

 

[Cerral]

I reinstalled bodyslide, build new body with ccbe hdt instead of all in one that I usually use. without SLIF and DBA, I used estrus chaurus to make the breasts bigger and  it works perfectly. with SLIF and estrus chaurus no problem. and DBA always the same problem.

 

So i tried an another mod to make breasts bigger: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6781-arousal-based-breast-adjuster-for-oldrim-cbbe-abba/

 

I have the same problem. Visually the breast growth, but in SLIF nothing.

 

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I really think that the problem comes from SLIF but there I do not know what to do.

[Krazyone]

4 hours ago, Cerral said:

I reinstalled bodyslide, build new body with ccbe hdt instead of all in one that I usually use. without SLIF and DBA, I used estrus chaurus to make the breasts bigger and  it works perfectly. with SLIF and estrus chaurus no problem. and DBA always the same problem.

 

So i tried an another mod to make breasts bigger: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6781-arousal-based-breast-adjuster-for-oldrim-cbbe-abba/

 

I have the same problem. Visually the breast growth, but in SLIF nothing.

 

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I really think that the problem comes from SLIF but there I do not know what to do.

If its working visually, I don't see the problem.

But if there is a problem, you could try changing your load order of both the mods and plugins, in Mod Organizer. Move the Plugin to the top of the list, try your game, then try it with it at the bottom of the list. Do this one at a time, with both the plugins and mods.

 

SlIF also has a setting for heirachy, which mods get to highest priority. 

Inflation type

Calculation Type

Top X

It's on the bottom of the first page, and these alter which mods it prioritises.

[Cerral]

23 hours ago, Krazyone said:

If its working visually, I don't see the problem.

But if there is a problem, you could try changing your load order of both the mods and plugins, in Mod Organizer. Move the Plugin to the top of the list, try your game, then try it with it at the bottom of the list. Do this one at a time, with both the plugins and mods.

 

SlIF also has a setting for heirachy, which mods get to highest priority. 

Inflation type

Calculation Type

Top X

It's on the bottom of the first page, and these alter which mods it prioritises.

The problem is not for the visual side but functional. Since SLIF does not react properly, sexlab disparity does not react either. I'm going to go to the slif help topic, I think it will be more appropriate. At first I thought it came from dba, which is why I asked for help here. If I have an answer that solves my problem I would let him know here also for the case.

 

In any case, thank you for your help.

[Zaflis]

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Depending on what restraints you are wearing your body will transform over time. Rubbersuit or hobbleskirt will pinch your waist and make you loose weight, but not as much as a corset will. Try to eat, when your stomach is constricted with iron.

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Because there is a bodyweight option, food is no longer useless. You will have to eat to replenish your weightloss during your devious alteration journey.

 

I don't have realistic needs mods so i don't ever use food. However my bodyweight keeps increasing over 30-40 and i don't know how to control that. I will need to wear rubber suits to make it go down? Any tips? I noticed that wearing corsets didn't really help in it, i was getting big boobed and small waisted character, which looks a bit out of proportions 

[Rogwar002]

3 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I don't have realistic needs mods so i don't ever use food. However my bodyweight keeps increasing over 30-40 and i don't know how to control that. I will need to wear rubber suits to make it go down? Any tips? I noticed that wearing corsets didn't really help in it, i was getting big boobed and small waisted character, which looks a bit out of proportions 

hihi... sorry, but this is reading funny.

I thought not wearing restraints and normal diet will keep you well feed and therefore most people tend to get ... bigger ?

If you want to stop the weight gain or loss, you have to disable it.

Yes, wearing things that will make movement difficult will decrease your weight. A corset is decreasing the amount you can breathe in but will not decrease your bodyweight.

[Rogwar002]

Some serious gaming was done.

I just published the Version 1.0 of Devious Body Alteration.

 

Changelog Version 1.0
fixed: breast size increase resulting in torpedo boobs
changed: slowed weight gain/loss
changed: alternative-waist-scaling influence on breast
added: Yps-Immersive Fashion support (respect heel training)

 

There is a real lack of time the last weeks. I decided to give what is in my opinion working solid.

I´ll do my best to keep this mod working fine with the updates of the supported mods.

Maybe I´ll share working bits and pieces here and then. But this little one is doing the trick I wanted it to do. There are many mods out there making buffs and debuffs depending on the look of the toon. For now they will complement my mod (hopefully). Actually I have very less time to play Skyrim and even worse less time to code. Real life is annoying if you want to play games

[MellowDrama]

On 1/25/2019 at 8:38 PM, Rogwar002 said:

Devious Body Alteration

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Devious Body Alteration was inspired by Devious Training from Skyrimfet and Devious Cursed Loot from Kimy. Both transformed the body beeing aroused or while wearing Devious Devices. I would like to mention Emily and her YPS Devious & Immersive Fashion, too. The Cinderella feet made me think about a shortend achilles sinew and implement a foot feature.

Because I disliked the scriptheavy "onEvent" monitoring from some other mods I loved to use, I decided to write my own. Hopefully I will make a good job.

Thank you to my inspiration

This mod is a basic one right know.

Maybe I will Implement buffs, debuffs, SlaveTats, etc. but that is not on my to do list right now, because there is a lack of time. Many hours of working showed no issues. No Errors spamed from DBA in any of my logs. I consider this working as my first idea was.

What´s the meaning of this: Don´t expect to much right now.

 

What does this mod:

Depending on what restraints you are wearing your body will transform over time. Rubbersuit or hobbleskirt will pinch your waist and make you loose weight, but not as much as a corset will. Try to eat, when your stomach is constricted with iron. Legcuffs or boots will alter your legs, armcuffs and gloves your arms, a collar your neck... You get the idea. One thing I almost forgot: shortening your achilles will disable you to wear normal boots or shoes. You will get the meaning over time.

I wrote already a lot of MCM tips with numbers for you. You can figure out the time settings and updatetimers on your own, if you read the MCM hints.

This mod has no dependency or connection to ZAZ Animation Pack. Neither version 7 nor 8. I did this, because there are so many bugs in there, that I didn´t want it in my loadorder anymore. Perhaps I will change that over time. Should be easy, because my detection functions are keyword dependent.

This mod will only work with Devious Devices Integration and the complementary mods, which are based on this mod.

Because there is a bodyweight option, food is no longer useless. You will have to eat to replenish your weightloss during your devious alteration journey.

 

Conflicts:

Who knows...

 

If there is a real weight morph mod in your loadorder, I recommend to deactivate the weightmoprhing of my mod, because they will do a better job than mine (hopefully ? ). I just monitor the eating event (there is no eating event... in fact a slice of bread in skyrim is a potion O_o) and calculate the weight gain using the effects like healing or stamina gain or whatever positive effect is given. I did no matrix of food, because I was lazy and it is not the goal of the mod, to simulate eating habits. But it could...perhaps in future

Immersive First Person View will prevent some body transformations to happen. I wanted to prevent a visible twitch during the body alteration procedure. I have an Idea in mind to make a workaround. But lack of time is preventing the updates I want to make.

Requirements:

Skyui v5.0 or higher

Devious Devices Integration 4.2 or higher

Racemenu v3.4.5 (you´ll need the Nioverridefeature implemented in there)

BodySlide v4.4 or higher (you´ll need the provided esp active in your load order for the ingame sliders)

SexLab v1.62

and of course all the mods needed to run the above.

 

Installation:

1. Install all requirements
2. Install Devious Body Alteration
3. Start Skyrim
4. Enjoy.

Nothing fancy right now.

 

Users of any beta can just update to version 1 without any cleaning. There is no new game needed. It should just work out of the box.

If you want to uninstall ,I recommend to disable the mod in game and just delete it in your load order. Without cleaning the first startup without DBA will spam some errors in your log file, but nothing serious or save crashing.

 

First time I write credits. If I forgot someone, please don´t rip my head off. Just tell me I made a mistake and I´ll apologize.

 

Thank you Skyrimfet. Your idea made me work on this.

Thank you Kimy, Min, Feuertin and El Duderino for your inspiration and the Devious framework, making my mod possible.

Thank you Xinafay for letting the community (and this way me too) use his barefoot meshes.

Thank you Emily. I used to love your Cinderella feet feature. I now have a reason to use my own approach.

Thanks to all the good people offering their free time to help, to mod, to code, to do whatever people ask them to do and still have the patience to calm down, even if there are loud people out there

 

Disclaimer:

If there is any rule violation in making this mod public, please tell me. I´ll put it down if necessary.

Don´t upload this mod to any other site, because I don´t have the time to watch every site.

If you want to use my mod for your own good and change code: Do whatever you feel is necessary, but you still have to keep the code and the mod public and free. No paywall! I made this mod having in mind to share it with the Skyrim community for free. This will never change.

Suggestions are welcome. But I´m only one grown man, working for money in a real life. Don´t expect wonders.

 

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• Submitter
  Rogwar002
• Submitted
  01/25/2019
• Category
  WIP / Beta
• Requires
  SkyUI, RaceMenu, Devious Devices Integration, BodySlide
• Special Edition Compatible
  No

 

hello, 

i'm wondering if you're still actively working on it and if you are I have a suggestion for you.

there's is a mechanic in "devious training" that when you are fully trained (wearing something for a very long time) with blindfolds the effects of the blindfold will disappear.

but after testing this I noticed that when you then remove the blindfold you see just like you did before which I dislike there are supposed to be negative consequences as well as positive consequences so instead of that I would like to see a system that when you have been wearing a blindfold for that amount of time you should need it because your vision would be blurred and to bright so you would have to keep it on at the very least when you're outside. maybe in some dungeons you would be okay and even be able to see better than before.

if it's a bit unclear what I mean just tell me English is not my first language.

 

[Rogwar002]

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3 hours ago, lucakro said:

hello, 

i'm wondering if you're still actively working on it and if you are I have a suggestion for you.

there's is a mechanic in "devious training" that when you are fully trained (wearing something for a very long time) with blindfolds the effects of the blindfold will disappear.

but after testing this I noticed that when you then remove the blindfold you see just like you did before which I dislike there are supposed to be negative consequences as well as positive consequences so instead of that I would like to see a system that when you have been wearing a blindfold for that amount of time you should need it because your vision would be blurred and to bright so you would have to keep it on at the very least when you're outside. maybe in some dungeons you would be okay and even be able to see better than before.

if it's a bit unclear what I mean just tell me English is not my first language.

 

Hi Lucakro,

 

I´m not a native English talking/writing guy myself. But I get the meaning

If you´re asking if I´m coding on a regular basis: no. There is almost no time left in my awake daytime currently. RL is a headache right now.

Rule 1: At least get a six hour nap, or I´ll become grumpy. The world doesn´t like me grumpy. Ask my colleguaes. They volunteer to share coffee if I´m grumpy in the morning  

Am I active on LL and do I look in the threads here: Yes. Will I make some new stuff in DBA over time? Yes. But I´m not fast and have not much time left. I made it to LL today, and it is getting dark outside already. Only one hour left before I´ll hit the cushion.

To be honest: I´ll just enjoy the work of others and my own the last hour sparetime today and give my...Lea ... the name was Lea this time... a little corsettraining. I decided to give you what I have, because it is working well. Feel free to change it, Feel free to blind the toon in your deviation of my work. It is for you, and it is free. If you decide you want to share it, do it. But keep the disclaimer in mind. You have to do it for free  I did almost the same, as I didn´t like some things a mod does in my game (I just started from scratch... with a blank paper and a pencil to write down the idea).

 

Still I am thinking of a buff / debuff system. I want it to be modular as I wanted the body changes modular. Currently I have an idea in mind how to do it, but I´m not a professional and have to do it slow, because I have to RTFM... and I hate every manual. In every manual you can find the page: You just have to push the button and the thingy is working. Push it, and nothing will happen ?

 

Regards

Rogwar

[MellowDrama]

15 minutes ago, Rogwar002 said:

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Hi Lucakro,

 

I´m not a native English talking/writing guy myself. But I get the meaning

If you´re asking if I´m coding on a regular basis: no. There is almost no time left in my awake daytime currently. RL is a headache right now.

Rule 1: At least get a six hour nap, or I´ll become grumpy. The world doesn´t like me grumpy. Ask my colleguaes. They volunteer to share coffee if I´m grumpy in the morning  

Am I active on LL and do I look in the threads here: Yes. Will I make some new stuff in DBA over time? Yes. But I´m not fast and have not much time left. I made it to LL today, and it is getting dark outside already. Only one hour left before I´ll hit the cushion.

To be honest: I´ll just enjoy the work of others and my own the last hour sparetime today and give my...Lea ... the name was Lea this time... a little corsettraining. I decided to give you what I have, because it is working well. Feel free to change it, Feel free to blind the toon in your deviation of my work. It is for you, and it is free. If you decide you want to share it, do it. But keep the disclaimer in mind. You have to do it for free  I did almost the same, as I didn´t like some things a mod does in my game (I just started from scratch... with a blank paper and a pencil to write down the idea).

 

Still I am thinking of a buff / debuff system. I want it to be modular as I wanted the body changes modular. Currently I have an idea in mind how to do it, but I´m not a professional and have to do it slow, because I have to RTFM... and I hate every manual. In every manual you can find the page: You just have to push the button and the thingy is working. Push it, and nothing will happen ?

 

Regards

Rogwar

thanks for the reply,

I guess im gonna have to learn how to use the creation kit now, haha. 

and I appreciate you releasing things when It works, really do. there are too many unfinished half mods on this site already.

bye.

[Lupine00]

I've been using this for a few months now, and it never gives any trouble. It just works quietly and effectively, and does "exactly what it says on the tin".

I recommend it for SLD users.

 

I should set up the SLD morph defaults to match it, but I haven't. Maybe one day...

 

It's rare to find a mod that causes so few problems, with a clear objective that it achieves nicely.

 

All the options I want are already there. I think...

 

The new fixes improve breast shape, which is nice.

 

Thanks @Rogwar002 for a great mod.

 

 

I guess if I was thinking of things that could be added - though I don't really need them - first on my list would be a way to control how weight gain/loss operates. I guess in my "ideal" mod-world, eating lots of sweets and fatty things like horker meat would be more prone to add weight than living on apples, salmon and grilled leeks. Not a realistic simulation, just something basic.

[godscat]

Hi there. Someone have solution to rescaling player  head/hands everytime save game is loaded ?

Its like first ECE load saved character customizations the DBA alter it after ? Without this mod everything works well. (put DBA before ECE load order?)

NetImmerse solution ? thx

[llokii70]

Does this work on SE or is there an SE port

[Krazyone]

On 7/4/2019 at 3:23 PM, coffe said:

Hi there. Someone have solution to rescaling player  head/hands everytime save game is loaded ?

Its like first ECE load saved character customizations the DBA alter it after ? Without this mod everything works well. (put DBA before ECE load order?)

NetImmerse solution ? thx

I had that problem, my character looked like a Chibi character. With a huge head, it was the mod I was using called Devious Training. It was scaling up, what the Devious Body mod was doing with the Deviously Cursed Loot's collar.

With Devious Training, my characters neck was scaled with a Devious Collar. With the Devious Body mod, it was also scaling the head. That was an older version though, v0.3, its now version 1.

 

 

If you don't have that mod installed, then disregard what I am saying.

 

[Rogwar002]

3 hours ago, Krazyone said:

I had that problem, my character looked like a Chibi character. With a huge head, it was the mod I was using called Devious Training. It was scaling up, what the Devious Body mod was doing with the Deviously Cursed Loot's collar.

With Devious Training, my characters neck was scaled with a Devious Collar. With the Devious Body mod, it was also scaling the head. That was an older version though, v0.3, its now version 1.

 

 

If you don't have that mod installed, then disregard what I am saying.

 

This was a problem that oocured in an early version. I made a small fix. Every time you load a game, the mod should reset itself and set the correct alteration status. This was something, that annoyed me most in DT and was the main reason, why I made this mod. The calculation in DT was done wrong in my opinion and I as a matter of fact my mod does a different calculation approach.

Technical explanation: To make the neck look longer, you have to change the bone scale of the neck. But every bone depending on the neck will now calculate with the changed neck bone. If you add 0.5 to the neck, the head will scale 1.5, because it is depending on the neck. Ok. We know what will happen. But what is the correct scaling of the head, if the neck is elongating? Assuming we have always 1 as neck length, we have to calculate the correct head size in comparision to the body. So the head has to be 1, too. But 1 compared to (divided)  the neck change: 1/(1+0.5)= 0.66

As a matter of fact this process can be overdone. If you change first the waist, calcuate the breast (upper body), elongate the neck and will than try to calculate the head, there is a small rounding issue

I´m not a math guru. My explanation may lack the proper wording, but this is how the bones correspond to each other. It is working

 

My toon is now level 65, was two times a Damsel in Distress, had plenty bondage adventures, found uncountable traps and still has no issue with missmatching body scaling nor has the save any script issues.

Everything is working as intended and currently I´m happy (maybe this is part of the fucking painkiller I have to swallow every day).

 

[Krazyone]

 

On 7/4/2019 at 3:23 PM, coffe said:

Hi there. Someone have solution to rescaling player  head/hands everytime save game is loaded ?

Its like first ECE load saved character customizations the DBA alter it after ? Without this mod everything works well. (put DBA before ECE load order?)

NetImmerse solution ? thx

4 hours ago, Krazyone said:

I had that problem, my character looked like a Chibi character. With a huge head, it was the mod I was using called Devious Training. It was scaling up, what the Devious Body mod was doing with the Deviously Cursed Loot's collar.

With Devious Training, my characters neck was scaled with a Devious Collar. With the Devious Body mod, it was also scaling the head. That was an older version though, v0.3, its now version 1.

 

 

If you don't have that mod installed, then disregard what I am saying.

 

1 hour ago, Rogwar002 said:

This was a problem that oocured in an early version. I made a small fix. Every time you load a game, the mod should reset itself and set the correct alteration status. This was something, that annoyed me most in DT and was the main reason, why I made this mod. The calculation in DT was done wrong in my opinion and I as a matter of fact my mod does a different calculation approach.

Technical explanation: To make the neck look longer, you have to change the bone scale of the neck. But every bone depending on the neck will now calculate with the changed neck bone. If you add 0.5 to the neck, the head will scale 1.5, because it is depending on the neck. Ok. We know what will happen. But what is the correct scaling of the head, if the neck is elongating? Assuming we have always 1 as neck length, we have to calculate the correct head size in comparision to the body. So the head has to be 1, too. But 1 compared to (divided)  the neck change: 1/(1+0.5)= 0.66

As a matter of fact this process can be overdone. If you change first the waist, calcuate the breast (upper body), elongate the neck and will than try to calculate the head, there is a small rounding issue

I´m not a math guru. My explanation may lack the proper wording, but this is how the bones correspond to each other. It is working

 

My toon is now level 65, was two times a Damsel in Distress, had plenty bondage adventures, found uncountable traps and still has no issue with missmatching body scaling nor has the save any script issues.

Everything is working as intended and currently I´m happy (maybe this is part of the fucking painkiller I have to swallow every day).

 

Sorry... but you replied to the wrong person, Coffe is the one with the problem. Devious Body Alteration, always works perfectly for me. After I discovered the problem it had with Devious Training, in the earlier version. That's why I wrote v0.3...

 

 

Sorry to hear of your problems with painkillers, much like yourself. I am happy, overjoyed in fact. I just got the follow up to Ark ( a Dinosaur survival game ), called Atlas. For £8 in a sale, and they added in a single player game in the latest update.

 

I've had really high level characters once, but I found them to a bit boring. So I spiced up the game with tons of reality mods, and difficulty mods. Along with adding spawns and better AI in the game.

My game time is over 5200 hours, most of them with Deviously Cursed Loot, or other nasty mods. She's been tied up more than Betty Page... 

 

 

Keep up the good work... 

[godscat]

On 7/4/2019 at 4:23 PM, coffe said:

Hi there. Someone have solution to rescaling player  head/hands everytime save game is loaded ?

Its like first ECE load saved character customizations the DBA alter it after ? Without this mod everything works well. (put DBA before ECE load order?)

NetImmerse solution ? thx

 

Dosent have installed devious trening. Mostly its about overwriting scales from ECE (I always reduce shoulders to be a little smaller). Have the latest Devious Body Alteration version.

After deleting the mod everything is ok, and yes I have Sexlab Inflation Framework and its working fine especially with morph method.

Devious Body Alteration have god potential and I don't want to disable the mod. Must find solution ? I read somewhere there is something in NiOverride settings

that can put priority between the mods, and put the most important in front of... dunno. Ok cheers.

[Krazyone]

42 minutes ago, coffe said:

 

Dosent have installed devious trening. Mostly its about overwriting scales from ECE (I always reduce shoulders to be a little smaller). Have the latest Devious Body Alteration version.

After deleting the mod everything is ok, and yes I have Sexlab Inflation Framework and its working fine especially with morph method.

Devious Body Alteration have god potential and I don't want to disable the mod. Must find solution ? I read somewhere there is something in NiOverride settings

that can put priority between the mods, and put the most important in front of... dunno. Ok cheers.

You could try disabling Sexlab Inflation Framework mod, turn it off or disable it. If your character resizes correctly. Then you could re enable it and change the MCM settings in Sexlab Inflation Framework, that deal with priority of scaling. CALCULATION TYPE, its the one that has stuff like TOP X.

  For me, it fixed the problems I had with other mods all working on the same area.  I had 3 mods, all working on breast scaling. Turning small breasts into huge ones.

 

You could try in Sexlab Inflation Framework, in the MCM menu. REGISTER PLAYER, and REGISTER ALL ACTORS. Unless you've already tried it.

 

 

Nice looking character... my character had the same problem, she had a large head like your character, and she looked adorable. Although, it wasn't what was wanted.

 

[llokii70]

Has anyone tried using this on SSE

[Rogwar002]

I don´t know mods on SSE for now, because I never played a modded SE. From the way I make use of NIO, I don´t think it will work without porting it.

You can try it, of course, but on the download page SSE support is ticked with no.

[llokii70]

SE has NIO its built into Racemenu