Sexlab Eager NPC's SE (SLEN)

[GSDFen]

Hey, my mod is working great and has been for some time, but I'm having one issue.  Even though I've plenty of NPC's that should populate the party list, there are still a number of {????} in various slots.  I'm not looking for certain NPC's, I just want to have the max available.

 

Has anyone else run into this?  Or am I missing something obvious?

[ShamusTheThird]

Quick question from a SL rookie... I can't seem to find Aroused SE.  Can I use Aroused Redux SSE?  

[gregaaz]

On 11/8/2021 at 12:32 PM, gregaaz said:

 

No problem, just getting confirmation here is very valuable. I'll root around in the relevant files to see the most efficient way to overcome this limitation.

 

Looks like there was an arbitrary limit set at 20 SOS objects. I need to do a little more analysis, but I think this could be expanded fairly easily (though it requires some upstream edits to the array sizes in some of the MCM stuff). If I get it working, I'll share the patched script.

 

 

 

Just following up on this, I've rewritten the script, but I'm having some issues getting scripts that rely on Sexlab to compile properly. Once I solve that problem, I'll be able to recompile the script and test it.

[PippinTom]

29 minutes ago, gregaaz said:

 

Just following up on this, I've rewritten the script, but I'm having some issues getting scripts that rely on Sexlab to compile properly. Once I solve that problem, I'll be able to recompile the script and test it.

 

Actually for me it's not really a big issue, that list limitation, simply because that part of SLEN (proper detection and SL Gender update based on currently assigned schlong addon) does not work, at least not with SLFb9. Chicks with dicks - if their role is not previously (and manually) set in SLF animations section to male - all plays as chicks in animations, I mean - in roles of chicks, and SLEN supposed to properly detect them and "change on the fly" SL role if it does not match SOS addon character.

 

EDIT:

So main issue for me with "SLEN-SOS integration" is that SL seems to ignore it completely and selects wrong animations, ones based on it's own settings.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by PippinTom

[dage7416]

Was curious if anyone had any experience with this mod and sisterhood of dibella being used together? Would they be conflicting? Thank you.

[Fredfish]

On 11/10/2021 at 2:26 AM, ShamusTheThird said:

Quick question from a SL rookie... I can't seem to find Aroused SE.  Can I use Aroused Redux SSE?  

Yes

 

 

[Pfiffy]

3 hours ago, dage7416 said:

Was curious if anyone had any experience with this mod and sisterhood of dibella being used together? Would they be conflicting? Thank you.

One will break the quests of the other. I suggest to load SOB after this and disable the Dibella quest in SLEN. the other features should work.

[dage7416]

Greatly appreciate the response, Thank you.

[WinterWolverine]

6 hours ago, dage7416 said:

Was curious if anyone had any experience with this mod and sisterhood of dibella being used together? Would they be conflicting? Thank you.

 I've been running both SoD and SLEN since LE (two must have mods for me), I've never had anything bad happen with either mod when used together, there aren't many mods at all that can't be run along side Slen (in my experience at least).

 Slen's quest makes a good finish to the overall "Dibella story" if you have it ticked in the mcm and wait on reading the letter you get till SoD is finished. And unless the newest update of sisterhood broke something I haven't seen yet, they've always played nice with each other for me.

 

3 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

One will break the quests of the other. I suggest to load SOB after this and disable the Dibella quest in SLEN. the other features should work.

 I've never had either of these mods break each others quests.

 

 As far as I know, this mod doesn't interfere with anything in sisterhood of Dibella mod (unless something really new has come up, or a glitch I've yet to experience), I have this mod and the updated DB sisterhood (these are two must haves for me since LE, thousands of hours of game time), they don't conflict at all, never have that I'm aware of (or at least vortex doesn't yell at me lol).

 At best Slen's quest might break "immersion" due to the story presented, as you know, Slen's quest starts after you complete the vanilla Dibella quest and you have to have at least 25 relationship increases using slen, then you get a note and it won't start till read, however, it barely touches anything at all as far as the game proper.

 My experienced with this mod is, slen does not break any quests at all in anything (again, unless it's a new issue), I run Amorous adventures stories as a reason to go to Markarth and start the sisterhood story as well (and a decent amount of other sl mods), no issues other than a slight break in story immersion when called "champion" by slen's npc's in the sanctuary if you go there before finishing SoD.

 As far as I know, there's no interaction between either mods actual locations/quests.

(if wrong please tell me, I use and test/break mods, I don't make mods, It's just that I have never had this mod break anything... at least nothing noticeable or obviously caused by this mod.)

 

Anyways, blessings to both of you and yours in these strange and trying times, peace.

 

p.s. to anyone reading this who uses both Sisterhood of Dibella and SLEN: For immersion, just wait till you're done with the sisterhood's story line, then go do Slen's quest... either way, I've never had it break anything, however, I haven't fully completed this newest updated-version of sisterhood as of writing this, so maybe I just haven't experienced a conflict yet, but, I have been using both of these mods for a long time together, on both platforms, and have never had issues.

[dage7416]

Thank you both for the input  I am currently playing through right now. No issues as far as I can tell.  I had one more question whenever you have the time regarding SL Romance. Would it be redundant to be running Romance if I am running this mod since they both have the chat function to initiate sex? Also, I saw I can disable the chat in SLEN, but if I do that will it disable ALL chat functions such as sex for training or the more advanced topics such as the orgies or just the one chat/minigame function? I am going to check that out later today hopefully, just currently converting some more mods to SSE.

 

I am referring to the "Sex Dialogues" option on the first page of the MCM, would that effectively disable all dialogue options? If so, I'll probably just go without SL Romance for the time being.

Edited November 13, 2021 by dage7416

[ShamusTheThird]

On 11/13/2021 at 6:45 AM, Fredfish said:

Yes

 

 

Thanks!

[PippinTom]

12 minutes ago, argenteum said:

Any idea why I might not be getting group dialogue options? They show up as enabled in the MCM but never appear in dialogue menus.

 

Because there is noone else in the area who fits the criteria of being lover and/or is aroused enough?

[Benmc20]

On 8/19/2021 at 10:17 PM, Davenby said:

I do know of those commands and they're what I used to use, to put a NPC down a relationship rank then charm then again and hope some luck gets me the "SLEN Relationship increases"

The "SLEN Relationship increases" requires:

25 = To start the "Dibella's Refuge" quest (provided you have also completed "Dragon Rising" and "Heart of Dibella" quests from the main game)

50 = To learn final word of "Thrill of the Tempest" shout ( I can't remember requirements for first two words)
125 = Legendary in "SLEN Level" on player stats page in MCM

 

Using player.setfactionrank xx008967 # is will definitely be my go to command to skip that grind.

Well, with alternate start mods, the first quest may be a problem. How to force start the dibella quests (and the reception of this letter) ?

[NicoleDragoness]

@Pfiffy

I'm still an LE 32bit user but the original author is vanished and doesn't provide support at all.

 

Sometimes I'm not happy with the animation choices by the SLEN's options (dialogues) and I found the they should be ruled by the skse plugin "SLEN DialogueChoice.json".

I wish to edit this for my personal tastes but my problem is I'm not sure what all those values mean.

 

Could you, or someone, kindly give me a deep explanation?

[Pfiffy]

1 hour ago, NicoleDragoness said:

@Pfiffy

I'm still an LE 32bit user but the original author is vanished and doesn't provide support at all.

 

Sometimes I'm not happy with the animation choices by the SLEN's options (dialogues) and I found the they should be ruled by the skse plugin "SLEN DialogueChoice.json".

I wish to edit this for my personal tastes but my problem is I'm not sure what all those values mean.

 

Could you, or someone, kindly give me a deep explanation?

I just converted the mod. I never looked at the scripts. For me it was just important to make sure it doesn't crash....sorry, that I can't help you here....

[dage7416]

Are there any defining features that anyone is aware of from Romance that are not in SLEN? Would it be redundant to run both or would we be missing out if we don't use romance at all? Thank you.

[WinterWolverine]

8 hours ago, dage7416 said:

Are there any defining features that anyone is aware of from Romance that are not in SLEN? Would it be redundant to run both or would we be missing out if we don't use romance at all? Thank you.

Not really, if you go to page 14 of the comments and grab ignotum's follow-addon so they can follow you somewhere else before starting the act, as far as I remember (been a while since I used Romance) this has everything romance has and more.

 

Blessings to you and yours in these strange and trying times, peace.

[dage7416]

4 hours ago, WinterWolverine said:

Not really, if you go to page 14 of the comments and grab ignotum's follow-addon so they can follow you somewhere else before starting the act, as far as I remember (been a while since I used Romance) this has everything romance has and more.

 

Blessings to you and yours in these strange and trying times, peace.

Thank you so much for the reply. I did indeed get the follow add-on. Gonna double check my dependencies but will most likely remove Romance on my next save. I read somewhere that the only real difference is the implementation of the animation tags and that romance has more animations pop up but looking through what they both actually do.. They both add the possibility to engage npc's but SLEN has threesome and orgy possibilities so SLEN does offer more capability in dialog sex.

[Will55]

On 10/25/2021 at 10:03 AM, Aethernaut1899 said:

Has anyone else ever had SLEN seduction dialogues just time out? They're taking a very long time to page through, and even when successful, the Sexlab scene doesn't initiate, eventually the other character just wanders away. The dungeon clear/dragon orgies are working correctly. This issue seems to have started for me when I updated to Beta 9. I'm not having any script load issues that I'd normally think would explain it. ?

Yes it happens on occasions.

I find that when you press the option ("this is a good place etc." in the TDF mod OR the SLEN option on what you wish to do to her) the image of the line goes grey but the line just sticks there, and nothing happens even if you wait a while. So then pressing tab becomes automatic and you rinse /repeat. But now I find if I tab and wait it often kicks in eventually.

So the animation wind up pause seems to be the problem not only the failure of the line to fade.

[AlreadyFree]

For some reason now the charm dialogue doesn't seem to work with anyone. The response is always "You must think you're all that. I'm not that easy." And then even if i offer to bribe they say, "Do i look like a whore. Get out of my face before i call the guards." That's all i get no matter what the charm level is set to. I think it was still working after updating to sexlab beta9 so that's not it but some mod is apparently conflicting but i can't figure out what it is. Anybody have any ideas?

[aurreth]

Is there any way to convert the aphrodisiac potions into a permanent effect?  I want to add a permanent effect to the player that slowly raises the arousal level of everyone around, the same way the aphrodisiac potion does, but that doesn't wear off.  So like "Champion of Dibella" adds the "Scent of Dibella" which raises arousal around her all the time.

[PippinTom]

54 minutes ago, aurreth said:

I want to add a permanent effect to the player that slowly raises the arousal level of everyone around

 

So you basically want another mod that adds what is already possible with accordingly configured SLA/SLAR/SLAX and optionally - PC's pants dropped - is that correct? ?

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by PippinTom

[aurreth]

33 minutes ago, PippinTom said:

 

So you basically want another mod that adds what is already possible with accordingly configured SLA/SLAR/SLAX and optionally - PC's pants dropped - is that correct? ?

 

 

Well I've never figured out how to confiture SLA so that the character's presence affects EVERYONE ELSE.  I'll take another look, but I don't think it does that.

 

What I want is something simple, like the aphrodisiac potions, that can be applied and doesn't wear off.  So it can be used as a plot device.  But thank you for the snarky answer.  It was so much easier than, you know, helping me find what you are referring to.

 

[PippinTom]

31 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

Well I've never figured out how to confiture SLA so that the character's presence affects EVERYONE ELSE.  I'll take another look, but I don't think it does that.

 

What I want is something simple, like the aphrodisiac potions, that can be applied and doesn't wear off.  So it can be used as a plot device.  But thank you for the snarky answer.  It was so much easier than, you know, helping me find what you are referring to.

 

 

Well - the only thing that SLA_ cannot do it terms of NPC's arousal is racial profiling that aphrodisiacs offer (it's possible to create pure or multi-culti ones), but since you didn't mention it then I guess you don't care about that feature.

 

And YES - SLA_ does (have a potential to) affect arousal of everyone in the area - it is the main purpose of that mod. And since you already have it (because it's hard requirement for dozens of other mods) why don't you just set it up to your preferences? However factory defaults should work just fine for that, assuming that mod in itself is working at all in your game (if not, then it's completely different issue for separate topic).

 

I hope I'm not "sarky" again.

 

[aurreth]

14 minutes ago, PippinTom said:

 

Well - the only thing that SLA_ cannot do it terms of NPC's arousal is racial profiling that aphrodisiacs offer (it's possible to create pure or multi-culti ones), but since you didn't mention it then I guess you don't care about that feature.

 

And YES - SLA_ does (have a potential to) affect arousal of everyone in the area - it is the main purpose of that mod. And since you already have it (because it's hard requirement for dozens of other mods) why don't you just set it up to your preferences? However factory defaults should work just fine for that, assuming that mod in itself is working at all in your game (if not, then it's completely different issue for separate topic).

 

I hope I'm not "sarky" again.

 

 

SLA can't accomplish the same effect.  You can use it to change rates for every single thing in the game, all at the same time, or one NPC at a time, but you can't fine tune it to only affect NPC's within a certain range of character.  With the aphrodisiac potions you can actually see it hit people as they come close to you.  Try one in a large inn.  People close to you will be affected and arousal will increase, people on the other end of the room won't be affected.  That's the effect I want.

 

Scent of Sex also can't do this, because it can run rules based on current arousal level, but it can't alter that level.  It can only trigger a scene, which will cause SLA to handle reducing arousal, but not increasing it.  Scent of Sex also does not allow customization of messages, so it can say "I like you", but not "Wow you smell good".

 

I duplicated the potion of the appropriate strength and gave it a duration of roughly 1000 years.  It does what I want it to do enough for testing, but it's not quite right, because I (a) don't want to have to figure out a way to make the character drink a potion, and (b) shows the time remaining in the active effects list, which breaks the immersion of what I'm trying to do.