Apropos 2

[forsited]

Yeah I give up man I don't know how to fix this. I've literally went into the files and made it to where I should take 0 wear and tear, and even if it gets past that for some reason should have 0 effects if I somehow gain wear and tear and it still just pulls bullshit from the void. I even checked the console to see if the values are edited and they all say 0.0 next to their associated sources (I.E Troll, werewolf, spriggen etc etc..), but after a rape I'm at 100 with the annoying effects that just make it unfun to play. Such a shame, this was one of my favorite mods too.

[Hex Bolt]

8 minutes ago, forsited said:

I've literally went into the files and made it to where I should take 0 wear and tear, and even if it gets past that for some reason should have 0 effects if I somehow gain wear and tear and it still just pulls bullshit from the void.

Just checking, after your edits did you click "Refresh from database" in the MCM to load your changes?

[forsited]

16 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Just checking, after your edits did you click "Refresh from database" in the MCM to load your changes?

Yeah, and when it refreshes in the console it shows my changes to where it's all set to 0. I've made new games and it's still the same. Also what's strange is the things that heal wear and tear don't do anything for me. If they healed then I wouldn't mind having to deal with wear and tear as much. See I edited the values so I don't know where the game could be pulling the original values from.

[forsited]

Also here's the console. It says it should be doing no dmg but after rape my character recieves full damage.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

On 1/24/2022 at 3:02 AM, gooser said:

 

Sorry for the long wait. IRL & trying to de stress from this headache. I just installed BethINI & forgot to chk if Papyrus is set to 1. Here's the apropos2 log. I hope it contains everything you're looking for.

Just a refresher: My issue was Go Backs were triggered despite being disabled.

Apropos2.0.log

Edited February 11, 2022 by Lyman the Lunatic
add a refresher.

[Lilzt3hcat]

Is there any easy way to add more races as recognized for unique descriptions? Being able to define "Racename" as unique somewhere (akin to how unique animations can be defined) could allow for much more customization with all the racemods (mihail, demonic creature compilation, ect) out there that have been patched for SL compatibility. (Though atm I'd settle for Dremora's/vampires being considered unique and not just "generic human".)

Edited February 11, 2022 by Lilzt3hcat

[gooser]

6 hours ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

Sorry for the long wait. IRL & trying to de stress from this headache. I just installed BethINI & forgot to chk if Papyrus is set to 1. Here's the apropos2 log. I hope it contains everything you're looking for.

Just a refresher: My issue was Go Backs were triggered despite being disabled.

Apropos2.0.log 2 MB · 1 download

 

Ok, I think you can rule out Apropos moving animation stages. If you have Debug turned on (not even Trace is required to see it), you will see:

"Aggressor moving animation back one stage."

This is not in this log file.

Furthermore, if Trace is enabled you would see:

"DisplayFemaleActorGoBackDescriptions: ... "

...in the log file as well.  

Also, if Apropos were moving the stage back, it also displays a message:

 "{ACTIVE} wants to {FUCK} my {FAROUSAL} {PUSSY} more!"

etc.

[gooser]

23 hours ago, forsited said:

Also here's the console. It says it should be doing no dmg but after rape my character recieves full damage.

 

Please enable Papyrus logging, go into Apropos MCM, enable Debug and Trace level logging, re-run your scenarios in game, and then post the Apropos0.log file that is generated.

Screen shot of the console is not helpful.

[gooser]

49 minutes ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

Is there any easy way to add more races as recognized for unique descriptions? Being able to define "Racename" as unique somewhere (akin to how unique animations can be defined) could allow for much more customization with all the racemods (mihail, demonic creature compilation, ect) out there that have been patched for SL compatibility. (Though atm I'd settle for Dremora's/vampires being considered unique and not just "generic human".)

 

No

[Lyman the Lunatic]

2 hours ago, gooser said:

 

 "{ACTIVE} wants to {FUCK} my {FAROUSAL} {PUSSY} more!"

So it's never was Apropos at all? Thanks for taking the time to take a crack at my issue. I honestly don't know what other mods could control animation stages, though. Maybe I'll find it eventually. I really hope I'll find it out soon, the thing is super annoying.

Just a question now: Does anyone knows what mod that likes to use the descriptor of "...Desires More?"

Edited February 11, 2022 by Lyman the Lunatic

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

So it's never was Apropos at all?

SL Horrible Harassment has a repeat stage setting.

 

1 hour ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

Does anyone knows what mod that likes to use the descriptor of "...Desires More?"

This mod has that string in a block of unused script that's commented out (deactivated, can't run).  Are you perhaps using an older version?

[Lilzt3hcat]

1 hour ago, gooser said:

 

No

Well.. that's frustrating. Thanks for taking the time to reply though ?

[Lyman the Lunatic]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

SL Horrible Harassment has a repeat stage setting.

 

This mod has that string in a block of unused script that's commented out (deactivated, can't run).  Are you perhaps using an older version?

I don't have Horrible Harassment on at the time & it was on MO2.
And I think I have the latest version of Apropos 2. But to be fair, I have installed Apropos 1 manually, Apropos 2 with MO2. But I just tried to manually uninstall Apropos 1 & manually install Apropos 2 just to see if it works.
I have not enabled the esp of Apropos 1 at all. Is it possible the scripts from Apropos 1 that I may have missed decided to run & override Apropos 2?

[gooser]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

SL Horrible Harassment has a repeat stage setting.

 

This mod has that string in a block of unused script that's commented out (deactivated, can't run).  Are you perhaps using an older version?

 

That sounds like the culprit.  That commented out code was copied from another mod, years ago, and I used it to model some code that would eventually be part of the "go back" feature in A2. The copied commented-out code was never active. So you have the original mod, but I can't remember that name off hand. I seem to remember it was one of the mods that would cause NPC's to rape the PC if arousal was high enough...

Edited February 11, 2022 by gooser

[Lyman the Lunatic]

11 hours ago, gooser said:

 

That sounds like the culprit.  That commented out code was copied from another mod, years ago, and I used it to model some code that would eventually be part of the "go back" feature in A2. The copied commented-out code was never active. So you have the original mod, but I can't remember that name off hand. I seem to remember it was one of the mods that would cause NPC's to rape the PC if arousal was high enough...

 Sorry, let me if I understand this correctly. A mod that is installed via MO2 & is not activated still conflicts with Apropos 2 that is manually installed & enabled?

[gooser]

8 hours ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

 Sorry, let me if I understand this correctly. A mod that is installed via MO2 & is not activated still conflicts with Apropos 2 that is manually installed & enabled?

 

No. There is another mod that is activated that is producing the "Desires more" messages that you see. At least I understood that you are seeing that message? If so, then there is a mod, that I used to model the logic in Apropos, but that code was never active in Apropos, on available as comments. I merely had it as a reference, and should have trimmed it out since it is no longer needed. So maybe if you post your load order, the mod will ring a bell.

[the.witcher]

Hi.

I guess I'm running into the same problem as few before me, but can't seem to find a way to fix.  The problem is that I have `active effects` from Wear & Tear, despite lowering the levels through MCM and the ` Current Player Wear and Tear Effects ` do not seem to degrade with time.

Using ` Clean System ` and ` Clean JContainers ` doesn't seem to fix it either.

I have SlaveTats installed, but not sure how is that a problem here? Load order (I'm using Loot)?

Ok, Im also running SLSO 1.7.7. Is there no way to make these 2 work together?

 

The only thing that seems to help/work here in fixing the active effects and decreasing the values is eating consumables like chaurus egg.

 

I'd appreciate help with this, if possible.

Edited February 13, 2022 by the.witcher

[forsited]

On 2/11/2022 at 11:41 AM, gooser said:

 

Please enable Papyrus logging, go into Apropos MCM, enable Debug and Trace level logging, re-run your scenarios in game, and then post the Apropos0.log file that is generated.

Screen shot of the console is not helpful.

Hopefully this helps. It plays the wrong scene for the cat, but I can fix that myself. The problem is that I'm still somehow recieving wear amd tear as well as negative effects.

Apropos2.0.log

[gooser]

7 hours ago, the.witcher said:

Hi.

I guess I'm running into the same problem as few before me, but can't seem to find a way to fix.  The problem is that I have `active effects` from Wear & Tear, despite lowering the levels through MCM and the ` Current Player Wear and Tear Effects ` do not seem to degrade with time.

Using ` Clean System ` and ` Clean JContainers ` doesn't seem to fix it either.

I have SlaveTats installed, but not sure how is that a problem here? Load order (I'm using Loot)?

Ok, Im also running SLSO 1.7.7. Is there no way to make these 2 work together?

 

The only thing that seems to help/work here in fixing the active effects and decreasing the values is eating consumables like chaurus egg.

 

I'd appreciate help with this, if possible.

 

In Apropos MCM, do you have any actors listed under the tab "Wear and Tear Actors" ?

[gooser]

7 hours ago, forsited said:

Hopefully this helps. It plays the wrong scene for the cat, but I can fix that myself. The problem is that I'm still somehow recieving wear amd tear as well as negative effects.

Apropos2.0.log 55.33 kB · 1 download

 

I don't see the usual  log statements about Wear and tear.

 

This is an example of a log file containing evidence that Wear and Tear is being computed, applied, along with messaging about the W&T and Abuse Textures being applied:

 

Spoiler

[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: Animation: 'B_B_CSide' not listed as unique or not found. Falling back...
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: Fullpath: Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Vaginal_Rape_Orgasm.txt
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: AproposDescriptionDb.GetStringFromArray() returning: The huge deposit {ACTIVE} has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: AproposDescriptionDb.ReplaceTokens returned : The huge deposit "Landlord" has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptions: Apropos2Descriptions.PresentMessage('The huge deposit "Landlord" has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.', HasPlayer
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoApplyWearAndTear
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoApplyWearAndTear(Claudette,human,TRUE)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: Found Apropos2ActorAlias the represents Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: GetWearTearDamage(damageClass=human,isRapeOrAggressive=TRUE)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette IncreaseVaginalWearAndTear(22)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(22,916)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette Vaginal Wear & Tear = 936 (value) 9 (state)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.IncreaseVaginalAbuseWearAndTear(22,TRUE,False,False)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(22,805)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette abuse-vaginal Wear & Tear = 826 (value) 9 (state)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoUpdateEffectsAndTats
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: Found Apropos2ActorAlias the represents Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Vaginal=9(936)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseVaginal=9(826)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseVaginal=7(294)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseVaginal=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Anal=7(loose)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseAnal=7(361)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseAnal=6(241)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseAnal=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Oral=1(snug)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseOral=1(1)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseOral=1(1)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseOral=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Abuse = 6
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Creature Abuse = 7
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Daedric Abuse = 0
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette UpdateWearTearEffects for actor
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Removing debuff spells from Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: vaginalSHRegenDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Vaginal.level9.shregen
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: vaginalMovementDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Vaginal.level9.movement
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: analSHRegenDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Anal.level7.shregen
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: analMovementDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Anal.level7.movement
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added vaginal WT S&H Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=30
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added vaginal WT Speed Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=20
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added anal WT S&H Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=20
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added anal WT Speed Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=15
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveAfterEffectsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveTearsSobsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveMascaraSmearTextures
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveCutsScratchesTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveDaedricScarsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AddTattoo, calling add_tattoo
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... section : Tears
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... area : face
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... name : Tears 3
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... texture : Sob Tears\tears_3.dds
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... slot : -1
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... color: 10027059
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... actor : Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2periodicplayerdescriptions: CheckCanRun: OrgasmEnd
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework: ---- OrgasmEnd ----
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework: Actors [2] >>
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AddTattoo, calling add_tattoo
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... section : Cuts
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... area : BODY
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... name : Cuts 2
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... texture : After Effects\cuts_2.dds
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... slot : -1
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... color: 10027059
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... actor : Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework:     [0]: [Claudette \ [Actor < (00000014)>]], female (Victim) <lewd> <enjoyment:58> <pain:63> <arousal:0>
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework:     [1]: ["Landlord" \ [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (8100BC38)>]], male  <enjoyment:58> <pain:33> <arousal:40>

If you don't see that sort of thing in your log, then I don't see how Apropos is applying debuffs ?

Can you provide a screenshot of your Active Effects and also check the "Wear and Tear Actors" tab under Apropos MCM ?

[forsited]

2 hours ago, gooser said:

 

I don't see the usual  log statements about Wear and tear.

 

This is an example of a log file containing evidence that Wear and Tear is being computed, applied, along with messaging about the W&T and Abuse Textures being applied:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: Animation: 'B_B_CSide' not listed as unique or not found. Falling back...
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: Fullpath: Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Vaginal_Rape_Orgasm.txt
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: AproposDescriptionDb.GetStringFromArray() returning: The huge deposit {ACTIVE} has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptionDb: AproposDescriptionDb.ReplaceTokens returned : The huge deposit "Landlord" has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- AproposDescriptions: Apropos2Descriptions.PresentMessage('The huge deposit "Landlord" has made inside me splatters about with each wet slap of him fucking me.', HasPlayer
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoApplyWearAndTear
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoApplyWearAndTear(Claudette,human,TRUE)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: Found Apropos2ActorAlias the represents Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: GetWearTearDamage(damageClass=human,isRapeOrAggressive=TRUE)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette IncreaseVaginalWearAndTear(22)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(22,916)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette Vaginal Wear & Tear = 936 (value) 9 (state)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.IncreaseVaginalAbuseWearAndTear(22,TRUE,False,False)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(22,805)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette abuse-vaginal Wear & Tear = 826 (value) 9 (state)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: DoUpdateEffectsAndTats
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2Actors: Found Apropos2ActorAlias the represents Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Vaginal=9(936)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseVaginal=9(826)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseVaginal=7(294)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseVaginal=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Anal=7(loose)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseAnal=7(361)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseAnal=6(241)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseAnal=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Oral=1(snug)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - AbuseOral=1(1)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - CreatureAbuseOral=1(1)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - DaedricAbuseOral=0(0)
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Abuse = 6
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Creature Abuse = 7
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: - avg Daedric Abuse = 0
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Claudette UpdateWearTearEffects for actor
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:02PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Removing debuff spells from Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: vaginalSHRegenDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Vaginal.level9.shregen
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: vaginalMovementDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Vaginal.level9.movement
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: analSHRegenDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Anal.level7.shregen
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: analMovementDebuffKey = .apropos2_wearteareffects.Anal.level7.movement
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added vaginal WT S&H Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=30
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added vaginal WT Speed Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=20
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added anal WT S&H Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=20
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: Added anal WT Speed Debuff spell to actor with magnitude=15
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveAfterEffectsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveTearsSobsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveMascaraSmearTextures
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveCutsScratchesTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AproposActorAlias.RemoveDaedricScarsTexture
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AddTattoo, calling add_tattoo
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... section : Tears
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... area : face
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... name : Tears 3
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... texture : Sob Tears\tears_3.dds
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... slot : -1
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... color: 10027059
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... actor : Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2periodicplayerdescriptions: CheckCanRun: OrgasmEnd
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework: ---- OrgasmEnd ----
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework: Actors [2] >>
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: AddTattoo, calling add_tattoo
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... section : Cuts
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... area : BODY
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... name : Cuts 2
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... texture : After Effects\cuts_2.dds
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... slot : -1
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... color: 10027059
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- Apropos2ActorAlias: ... actor : Claudette
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework:     [0]: [Claudette \ [Actor < (00000014)>]], female (Victim) <lewd> <enjoyment:58> <pain:63> <arousal:0>
[02/10/2022 - 03:50:03PM] -- apropos2framework:     [1]: ["Landlord" \ [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (8100BC38)>]], male  <enjoyment:58> <pain:33> <arousal:40>

If you don't see that sort of thing in your log, then I don't see how Apropos is applying debuffs ?

Can you provide a screenshot of your Active Effects and also check the "Wear and Tear Actors" tab under Apropos MCM ?

 

Yeah strange it doesn't show me as an actor.

ScreenShot5.bmp ScreenShot7.bmp

Edited February 13, 2022 by forsited

[the.witcher]

5 hours ago, gooser said:

 

In Apropos MCM, do you have any actors listed under the tab "Wear and Tear Actors" ?

Nope. Reference screenshot.
I do get gains in the abuse tho, i got the effect applied - again, the problem is that i don't seem to heal at all with time unless using consumables.

 

The session for the logs i: loaded game, went to sleep, had sex with my dudes after waking up via SLEN, then rested for 8 hours to allow WT heal over time function to do its thing - which it didn't

EDIT: Also attaching my load order.

EDIT2: Also attaching papyrus logScript.zips in `Script.zip` archive.

loadorder.txt

Edited February 13, 2022 by the.witcher

[gooser]

11 hours ago, forsited said:

 

Yeah strange it doesn't show me as an actor.

ScreenShot5.bmp 5.93 MB · 2 downloads ScreenShot7.bmp 5.93 MB · 2 downloads

Those Active Effects are not from Apropos, I'm afraid.  I never debuff weight capacity or sneak. You have something else in your load order that is inflicting wear and tear. 

Pretty sure @the.witcher you have the same thing happening. Attach your Active Effects screenshot like @forsited to be sure.

 

For reference here are the Apropos debuffs. In summary: Stamina, Health, Magicka regen, speech, and speed. 

 

Spoiler

Oral
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% magicka regen
Level 5 - -10% magicka regen -5 Speech
Level 6 - -15% magicka regen -10 Speech
Level 7 - 20% magicka regen -15 Speech
Level 8 - 25% magicka regen -20 Speech
Level 9 - 30% magicka regen -25 Speech

 

Vaginal
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen
Level 6 - -15% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 7 - -20% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 8 - -25% s/h regen -15% movement
Level 9 - -30% s/h regen -20% movement

 

Anal
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 6 - -15% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 7 - -20% s/h regen -15% movement
level 8 - -25% s/h regen -20% movement
level 9 - -30% s/h regen -25% movement

 

Oral-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% magicka regen
Level 5 - -10% magicka regen -5 Speech
Level 6 - -20% magicka regen -10 Speech
Level 7 - -30% magicka regen -20 Speech
Level 8 - -40% magicka regen -30 Speech
Level 8 - -50% magicka regen -40 Speech

 

Vaginal-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen
Level 6 - -20% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 7 - -30% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 8 - -40% s/h regen -20% movement
Level 9 - -50% s/h regen -30% movement

 

Anal-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 6 - -20% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 7 - -30% s/h regen -20% movement
level 8 - -40% s/h regen -30% movement
Level 9 - -50% s/h regen -35% movement

 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by gooser

[Lyman the Lunatic]

On 2/12/2022 at 10:53 PM, gooser said:

 

No. There is another mod that is activated that is producing the "Desires more" messages that you see. At least I understood that you are seeing that message? If so, then there is a mod, that I used to model the logic in Apropos, but that code was never active in Apropos, on available as comments. I merely had it as a reference, and should have trimmed it out since it is no longer needed. So maybe if you post your load order, the mod will ring a bell.

MO 2 has been an absolute ass to me for 3 or so months now, some of these mods are actually NOT enabled but it is shown on the log regardless. I'm trying to find a way to find a way to make them show only the activated ones. Maybe this will be an opportuned time to delete some of them.

PS. I also noticed my game still create Apropos 1 logs despite me already uninstalled it. I'm pretty sure I removed everything. Is there a process I missed?
 

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[forsited]

2 hours ago, gooser said:

Those Active Effects are not from Apropos, I'm afraid.  I never debuff weight capacity or sneak. You have something else in your load order that is inflicting wear and tear. 

Pretty sure @the.witcher you have the same thing happening. Attach your Active Effects screenshot like @forsited to be sure.

 

For reference here are the Apropos debuffs. In summary: Stamina, Health, Magicka regen, speech, and speed. 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Oral
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% magicka regen
Level 5 - -10% magicka regen -5 Speech
Level 6 - -15% magicka regen -10 Speech
Level 7 - 20% magicka regen -15 Speech
Level 8 - 25% magicka regen -20 Speech
Level 9 - 30% magicka regen -25 Speech

 

Vaginal
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen
Level 6 - -15% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 7 - -20% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 8 - -25% s/h regen -15% movement
Level 9 - -30% s/h regen -20% movement

 

Anal
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 6 - -15% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 7 - -20% s/h regen -15% movement
level 8 - -25% s/h regen -20% movement
level 9 - -30% s/h regen -25% movement

 

Oral-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% magicka regen
Level 5 - -10% magicka regen -5 Speech
Level 6 - -20% magicka regen -10 Speech
Level 7 - -30% magicka regen -20 Speech
Level 8 - -40% magicka regen -30 Speech
Level 8 - -50% magicka regen -40 Speech

 

Vaginal-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen
Level 6 - -20% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 7 - -30% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 8 - -40% s/h regen -20% movement
Level 9 - -50% s/h regen -30% movement

 

Anal-hardcoremode
Level 0 - no stats
Level 1 - no stats
Level 2 - no stats
Level 3 - no stats
Level 4 - - 5% stamina/health regen
Level 5 - -10% s/h regen -5% movement
Level 6 - -20% s/h regen -10% movement
Level 7 - -30% s/h regen -20% movement
level 8 - -40% s/h regen -30% movement
Level 9 - -50% s/h regen -35% movement

 

 

 

Strange, the only other sexlab things I have are aroused, sexlab, and defeat. I don't know what could be overriding everything to amp my wear to 100 and give me the effects. Skyrim modding is crazy man.