IreneSlave Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 I played this mod first about a year ago, and liked it. I saw the update last fall, downloaded it, and never got around to playing it again. A couple days ago though I decided to give it another go, and ran all the way through it, and besides the guard issue and having to restart Origins after installing the Alpha (twice, the Helgen bug got me the first time I got to the end.), I really enjoyed it. I did encounter one other bug when playing through the quests, but I don't think it's related to LBS, since it only appeared when moving to a new PC. (Direct copy of game files though, so not due to Steam updating me). If hobble dresses get my carry weight under 0, I cannot move at all. If I use another mod to get my carry weight up, and use CapsLock to walk, works as expected. I'll put a bit of spoilery feedback in a spoiler. Spoiler I really liked how you brought back Jade. She felt like such a throwaway in the last version. She's still mysterious, somehow also connected in with Sloane, but she's no longer a straight-up bad guy, and I get the feeling we've not seen the last of her, nor of that potion. The thotium too...Jade knows a lot more than she's said so far. Glad to see it going somewhere too, it seemed like a dead-end before. The perfect girl. This is getting interesting, and though I combed the thread, I couldn't find anyone else stating the same thought I had reading Jade's book. Multiple times through history it seems, possibly divine, ...this sounds like mantling. Then with the idea of Hilde BECOMING the perfect girl... There's the offer the player can make early on to go to Sloane, which is refused. You are an excellent writer, and that looks like an unfired Chekhov's gun. Yes, we get a taste with Origin, which in itself is quite interesting cause we see Darius being evil and Sloane, not good, but certainly less evil than she seems now. Then again, you've managed to surprise me almost ever turn of the way, which, good job. I often can tell where a poorly written story is going, and like those where I can't, and you've gotten me almost ever time. I saw the Embershard chest trap though, that was obvious. Did scare me with the blackscreen a few meters into Embershard though, I thought my game was crashing. I figured out pretty quick when known bandits were missing what you'd done. I liked everything new, Origins was my least favorite, partly due to how much subtitle reading it was, and probably partly due to the fact I had to replay it one and a half times. The ending though? Perfect. I know, 'character pulls weapon, cocks gun, etc and it fades to black' is an overused trope, but here it fits perfect. We know what happened next, we've been told it. Also, that sound of the sword being drawn is the end of Glemme's horrors, so we've reached the end of what her totem captured. I did notice the same totem on Laura's dresser... Overall, very well done, I eagerly anticipate the next version. I hope I'll be able to continue, but honestly even if it doesn't need a new save I'll probably render the save unloadable due to other mod changes first. It's a good story though, so I don't mind replaying it. Thank you. 3
aurreth Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) On 4/25/2022 at 10:31 AM, Taki17 said: That was in reply to another user's issue. The MoveTo function that's supposed to port them whenever they should be has some inherent oddities in all game edititions, however they are more prone to manifest on SSE. Backporting the same workaround used for the linked SSE version might be a solution, however I've been wanting to take a look at all instances like this and make them operate safer and tighter in all cases. I backported the Alpha Test changes to LE, and while I don't know if they fix anything (the issue was previously only reported on SE) they certainly don't break anything either. The current plan is to make those changes to the LE code base for the next release so that they will be carried forward to SE/AE during the conversion. On 4/23/2022 at 1:54 PM, Tetras66 said: If Laura used aliases for her scenes and I'm 99% sure she would have, then changing the NPC used for a scene should be pretty simple. You just change the alias record once and the quest (and all scenes) will update that reference automatically. If you need two Dorans in the same quest, then you could create an additional alias (like you said above "DoranHouse and DoranInn" and make the scenes use different ones. Yeah, that's what I meant. I can add a new alias for a second Doran, but then I have to edit scenes to make sure they use the right Doran. I don't know how to do that ? Edit: The scripts have to be changed to use the second Doran as well, but I can do that since I know where the change over from inn to house is. But when the script starts the scene it doesn't pass-by-reference. The scene itself uses the same alias the script does, or potentially an entirely different alias. The scene isn't a subroutine of the script, it's an entirely separate process. That's one reason I brought up the "don't paralyze Doran in the first place" possibility. That only requires moving a Marker, so that Doran ends up further away and hence out of sight, and removing the paralyzing effect (or just not casting the spell). Oh, and delaying the bandits a second or two to prevent collision at the kitchen doorway. Those are simple changes, just less satisfying because it introduces a minor plot hole as to what happened to Doran in the first place when he left the kitchen. Edited April 27, 2022 by aurreth 1
MountainDewGod Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Can someone help I cant get sex animations to play here is the papyrus log Papyrus.0.log
Taki17 Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 5 hours ago, carlos spicy wiener said: Can someone help I cant get sex animations to play here is the papyrus log This is definitely not an LBS issue. You need to sort out your Sexlab install, either by resetting or reinstalling it, potentially on a new game. 2
MountainDewGod Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Taki17 said: This is definitely not an LBS issue. You need to sort out your Sexlab install, either by resetting or reinstalling it, potentially on a new game. Thanks I had to Uninstall Everything and reinstall everything to get it to work but it works now
ArcaneWhore Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 4:00 AM, ArcaneWhore said: Hey I've encountered an issue with the quest line(I'm reckon I'm not the 1st one but I'm too lazy to read 200+ pages sorry :c). So after the 'flashback' I needed to return to the shop, but no matter how fast I get there Laura and Kat always leave the place and stand on last flashback location. And you can't talk to them about the quest line only the usual stuff. Does anybody know how I can fix that? (I kinda saved at the wrong time and now I'm stuck with this outcome ?) So it would seem that this happens when control is returned right after you finish the flashback as opposed to character taking three steps from the river and then control returns. At least that is what I noticed in my case. 2
disagree11 Posted April 29, 2022 Posted April 29, 2022 This may be an odd question to ask, but from a "lore of the mod" perspective (a. k. a. the idea your head), do males come to this shop? I know the story quests generally have a female PC in mind, but I'm asking because I am trying to do a playthrough where a lot of people, regardless of gender or race, are just kind of into bondage and things. And Laura's shop seems like a good place for them to go to for their consensual bondage needs, without being forced upon, without people suddenly pulling a "force into slavery" on them. And I'm just wondering if I should leave male followers outside when I enter the shop. There's probably nothing forcing me either way, but you know, immersion. 1
rdbaby13 Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 1:15 PM, Taki17 said: Make sure the logging in DD is enabled and share your DDi log (located in the game's root folder). It might just have the answer for it, if an equip is failing. After doing some review, according to my download and NMM I have Devious Devices LE 5.1.7z installed... however according to FNIS its reading DD V4.0.0 Could this by why The quest are not equipping item and I remain nude? Also, Where does one find Papyrus.0.log?
CaptainJ03 Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 7:46 AM, disagree11 said: This may be an odd question to ask, but from a "lore of the mod" perspective (a. k. a. the idea your head), do males come to this shop? (...) And I'm just wondering if I should leave male followers outside when I enter the shop. There's probably nothing forcing me either way, but you know, immersion. I don't see why they shouldn't. There are, although poorly implemented, Devices For Him, so your male PC, or male sub follower, might so some shopping for himself. Or if a male follower acts as your Master (Lola, DFC or just roleplaying it in your mind) he would want to see you struggle in your new restraints, maybe test an outfit or two. I don't think that the main quest would be fitting for a male PC though, but that's for Laura to answer. 1
CaptainJ03 Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 9 hours ago, rdbaby13 said: After doing some review, according to my download and NMM I have Devious Devices LE 5.1.7z installed... however according to FNIS its reading DD V4.0.0 Could this by why The quest are not equipping item and I remain nude? No. Kimy just can't be bothered to update the version number in the behaviour files. ? 9 hours ago, rdbaby13 said: Where does one find Papyrus.0.log? $USER\documents\my games\skyrim\logs\script 1
Tetras66 Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, rdbaby13 said: After doing some review, according to my download and NMM I have Devious Devices LE 5.1.7z installed... however according to FNIS its reading DD V4.0.0 Could this by why The quest are not equipping item and I remain nude? Also, Where does one find Papyrus.0.log? In my experience, you might want to look at if sexlab (and requirements), FNIS, fuz and your body/bodyslide are all installed and functioning properly, since DD relies on these to work properly. In my games, DD needs 3 or 4 saves and reloads (with about 5 minutes in-between) to operate once sexlab is installed. Also check if you have any conflicts that are overwriting the DD slots and devices. How up-to-date is Skyrim LE itself? Edited April 30, 2022 by Tetras66
Laura Posted April 30, 2022 Author Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 7:46 AM, disagree11 said: This may be an odd question to ask, but from a "lore of the mod" perspective (a. k. a. the idea your head), do males come to this shop? I know the story quests generally have a female PC in mind, but I'm asking because I am trying to do a playthrough where a lot of people, regardless of gender or race, are just kind of into bondage and things. And Laura's shop seems like a good place for them to go to for their consensual bondage needs, without being forced upon, without people suddenly pulling a "force into slavery" on them. And I'm just wondering if I should leave male followers outside when I enter the shop. There's probably nothing forcing me either way, but you know, immersion. Of course men can enter the shop, I don't see why not. Everyone can be into bondage. 4
chaimhewast Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 I just finished the story quests, and I can see why people are excited for the next installment. 3.30 left me wanting more. My thoughts: Spoiler A Strange Rock and What She Deserves both felt like pretty normal Skyrim gofer quests with devious twists; a good introduction to the mod. Blending In was a satisfying puzzle. I ran into a minor compatibility problem because Mortal Weapons & Armor was removing food from the world, so I had to console in a drink so I could progress. The Lost Merchant, The Broken Warrior, The Trapped Hunter, and Ghosts of the Past had some good moments, although my other mods made me not care for them much - The Lost Merchant had me fighting level 25 bandits in the cold when I only had about 100 health and no armor, and all of them had me bouncing between the shop and the ends of the world without any fast travel available. A Familiar Face was another satisfying puzzle, although I'm not sure that Glemme's totem spawned properly. Origin offered good insight into the past. I was smart with this one and turned off MWA's food removal, so the only compatibility that I had to deal with was MWA not treating the clothes as fitting my character (not terribly important, and solved with a couple clicks in the MCM) and iNeed adding its water to the stew recipe (solvable with the console). I did run into that issue with having to disable and enable Doran before he would do his second scene, though. It was refreshing to have quests not focused around combat, even if it meant my poor girl was repeatedly locked up. Vanilla sends me to fight enough people - quests that ask me to do other things are few and far between. 5
Newtothis91 Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 Hey, I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or there’s a cross in my mods, but I’m getting devices stuck on me and not able to take them off at all, when I am successful it just puts me back into the “unlock, try to escape, carry on” menu and the devices is still on, please help, I can’t do anything in the game anymore
Zardiack Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Newtothis91 said: Hey, I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or there’s a cross in my mods, but I’m getting devices stuck on me and not able to take them off at all, when I am successful it just puts me back into the “unlock, try to escape, carry on” menu and the devices is still on, please help, I can’t do anything in the game anymore I don`t know which Skyrim version (LE / SE) you use and what other devious mods you have installed. I know that Unforgiving Devices (the Abadon plug mod) caused exactly this problem for me and I never faced this loop after uninstalling Unforgiving Devices ever.
kurotatsu Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 @Zardiack - looks like messed up load order to me. UD works quite well with LBS, especially when patch is applied.
Newtothis91 Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Zardiack said: I don`t know which Skyrim version (LE / SE) you use and what other devious mods you have installed. I know that Unforgiving Devices (the Abadon plug mod) caused exactly this problem for me and I never faced this loop after uninstalling Unforgiving Devices ever. i have devious cidhna, devices-contraptions, intergration, lore patch 2, struggle, lauras bondage, devious lore, all for SE, im not sure iv im missing a required mod, i used to be able to struggle free, but i just dont know if im just not doing the mini game enough or its a bug,
Tetras66 Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Newtothis91 said: i have devious cidhna, devices-contraptions, intergration, lore patch 2, struggle, lauras bondage, devious lore, all for SE, im not sure iv im missing a required mod, i used to be able to struggle free, but i just dont know if im just not doing the mini game enough or its a bug, Devious contraptions and integration are part of the new builds of DD aren't they? What version of DD are you using? What is 'struggle'? This sounds like something that would conflict.
Newtothis91 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Tetras66 said: Devious contraptions and integration are part of the new builds of DD aren't they? What version of DD are you using? What is 'struggle'? This sounds like something that would conflict. 11 hours ago, Tetras66 said: Devious contraptions and integration are part of the new builds of DD aren't they? What version of DD are you using? What is 'struggle'? This sounds like something that would conflict. Devices contraptions 1.5b.7z intergration 4.3.a.7z lore patch 2.04.rar escape overhaul 0.6.3 devious devices SE & VR 5.1.7z lore 2.3.0 devious cursed loot 2.3.0 i think there must be a serious issue, since I started a new game and gear will not unlock or remove, even in the set scenes with NPCs, I am just bound with no escape
Taki17 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Newtothis91 said: Devices contraptions 1.5b.7z intergration 4.3.a.7z lore patch 2.04.rar escape overhaul 0.6.3 devious devices SE & VR 5.1.7z lore 2.3.0 devious cursed loot 2.3.0 This looks all sorts of fucked. You have DD5.1 installed, while also having DDi 4.3 and DDc 1.5 because why? Also, you are using a version of DCL from SEVEN versions prior? Edited May 3, 2022 by Taki17 2
Newtothis91 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, Taki17 said: This looks all sorts of fucked. You have DD5.1 installed, while also having DDi 4.3 and DDc 1.5 because why? Also, you are using a version of DCL from SEVEN versions prior? im very new to moding like this, and they are the only versions i could find, if there's a way to get the current versions i will take it. i only just learned how to mod from loverslab (im an idiot)
Taki17 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Newtothis91 said: im very new to moding like this, and they are the only versions i could find, if there's a way to get the current versions i will take it. This guide ain't perfect, however will tell you all the basic stuff you need for DD modding:
Newtothis91 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Taki17 said: This guide ain't perfect, however will tell you all the basic stuff you need for DD modding: i just dont understand, it keeps sending me to DD5.1 and no current versions, where can i find the updated versions?
kurotatsu Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 DD 5.1 is current, DD5.2 is in beta. Contraptions is redundant, and part of DD now. 1
Tetras66 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Newtothis91 said: im very new to moding like this, and they are the only versions i could find, if there's a way to get the current versions i will take it. i only just learned how to mod from loverslab (im an idiot) In short, you just need to uninstall contraptions and integration, because they're redundant when you have DD 5.1 installed. I'm actually surprised your mod manager didn't tell you this. DD 5.1 is only compatible with SE prior to the AE update, by the way, you'll need the latest beta if you're using AE and I believe Sexlab and Fuz would also need updating.
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