Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[aurreth]

2 minutes ago, aihara111 said:

is it posible because i'm not doing the main quest before come to fort hraggstad ? if it's posible i'm gonna try with the old savegame that's already done the main quest line

 

Oh, no, I never do the main quest these days.  As long as the quest from this mod is active the other one shouldn't make a difference.

[aihara111]

7 hours ago, aurreth said:

 

Actually I'm doing the hunting, not Laura, and I have plenty of time   

 

And you are right, it's not this mod.  But I'm curious about what other mod is causing the conflict, or if it's a borked save.  Knowing that will help address other people's questions or issues in the future.  It might also lead to more stable code for a future release.  And again, I'm the one stabilizing things, then providing my suggested fixes to Laura for her review (along with absolute volumes of explanations that she's probably tired of lol  Sorry Laura, I don't get out much and tend to get a bit loquacious when I actually have someone to communicate with.)

 

I'm leaning towards bad save, given that the quest marker is missing.  Plus all the error messages in the papyrus log.  So right now I'd recommend @aihara111 clean the save to get rid of any left over cruft or broken scripts that may be messing things up, and try again.

 

Ok will try to clean the savegame and try with other character, gonna send the result ASAP

[1337DragonWolf]

There's a certain... kindness and depth in your mod that you very rarely see in quest and character mods, especially on this site. I think it's obvious why, but I'll let other people come to the conclusion on their own.

[Laura]

22 minutes ago, 1337DragonWolf said:

There's a certain... kindness and depth in your mod that you very rarely see in quest and character mods, especially on this site. I think it's obvious why, but I'll let other people come to the conclusion on their own.

[aihara111]

On 1/9/2022 at 6:01 AM, aurreth said:

 

Oh, no, I never do the main quest these days.  As long as the quest from this mod is active the other one shouldn't make a difference.

 

On 1/9/2022 at 1:36 AM, Laura said:

There is no actual potion used. It's all fake. Just a bunch of stuff that tricks you into thinking it makes sense. It's just a line to disable controls and then an effect to make it look like the chest did it and a text box telling you what you're supposed to think happened. I also don't think potion resistance would do anything. There is no potion or anything, just the effect to make it look better.

Pretty much all games just trick you.

 

100% agree.

Cleaning the savegame did nothing, the CTD still happened, trying with other savegame is worse, bug came when interacting with xayah, after the potiont stolen xayah stuck sitting on chair not go to near wardrobe and call character

[Tetras66]

1 hour ago, aihara111 said:

 

Cleaning the savegame did nothing, the CTD still happened, trying with other savegame is worse, bug came when interacting with xayah, after the potiont stolen xayah stuck sitting on chair not go to near wardrobe and call character

 

I seem to recall this happening before, but I can't remember how it was fixed ? By the way, I think your version of Fuz SE may be out of date.

[aurreth]

2 hours ago, aihara111 said:

 

Cleaning the savegame did nothing, the CTD still happened, trying with other savegame is worse, bug came when interacting with xayah, after the potiont stolen xayah stuck sitting on chair not go to near wardrobe and call character

 

Hmmm... are you sure you are using the correct version, i.e. the LE version for LE, the new Alpha Test version for SE?  I usually get unpredictable results like these when I use an LE mod that is supposedly good for SE too, when it really isn't.

 

[aurreth]

44 minutes ago, Tetras66 said:

 

I seem to recall this happening before, but I can't remember how it was fixed ? By the way, I think your version of Fuz SE may be out of date.

 

I did a complete reinstall recently and found the most recent version of Fuz was broken.  Conversations went by too fast to see, no matter what tweaks I tried.  Going back one version fixed the problem.  Long story short, if it's working don't mess with it, just to have the latest and greatest.  

[kylexf]

Was having an issue in the "Origin" Quest (SSE) where the 2nd time I go to sleep in the bed, in slonae's room, i actually get into the bed, and can't get out (pressing E gets you out, but then I just get right back in.  Installed the alpha fix, and now Sloanne's husband (forget his name) doesn't show up at all, and I'm stuck right before where I'd get into the bed for the second time

[aurreth]

3 minutes ago, kylexf said:

Was having an issue in the "Origin" Quest (SSE) where the 2nd time I go to sleep in the bed, in slonae's room, i actually get into the bed, and can't get out (pressing E gets you out, but then I just get right back in.  Installed the alpha fix, and now Sloanne's husband (forget his name) doesn't show up at all, and I'm stuck right before where I'd get into the bed for the second time

 

You aren't supposed to get out of bed the 2nd time, the scene takes care of that.  You get in to bed, Sloane and Darius have some discussion, Darius comes into the cell, Sloane chases him out, and so on.  Eventually you will automatically stand up.  Yes, it is a bit prolonged and awkward, Laura said she'd tweak it later.  Just wait it out, and you'll end up back downstairs in a cell, where you take control of your character again.

 

If you installed the alpha fix after you already started Origin it will mess up, because your save expects Darius to be in one place and the fix moves him someplace else.  The fix only works if you continue with a save from before Origin begins, i.e. before you give Glemme her sword back.  The fix alters the Origin quest script, so you can't install it on a save where that script is already running.

 

[kylexf]

1 hour ago, aurreth said:

 

You aren't supposed to get out of bed the 2nd time, the scene takes care of that.  You get in to bed, Sloane and Darius have some discussion, Darius comes into the cell, Sloane chases him out, and so on.  Eventually you will automatically stand up.  Yes, it is a bit prolonged and awkward, Laura said she'd tweak it later.  Just wait it out, and you'll end up back downstairs in a cell, where you take control of your character again.

 

If you installed the alpha fix after you already started Origin it will mess up, because your save expects Darius to be in one place and the fix moves him someplace else.  The fix only works if you continue with a save from before Origin begins, i.e. before you give Glemme her sword back.  The fix alters the Origin quest script, so you can't install it on a save where that script is already running.

 

Very helpful, thank you!!

[remodel]

I'm trying out the mod for the first time.  I have DD5.1 loaded and built in BodySlide.   Laura is in her catsuit and Katrina is standing guard.  When I ask Laura what she has for sale and the trade item window comes up, there's nothing for sale.  I'm trying to figure out why but don't know where to start.  All other merchants trade menus work.

 

 

 

I have installed all the requirements: SexLab Animation Framework v1.62, SexLab Aroused Redux Baka Edition, Devious Devices LE 5.1, Fuz Ro D-oh V61, and SkyUI.

 

 

Any Ideas? 

[Taki17]

8 hours ago, remodel said:

Any Ideas? 

Did you happen to start through an alterate start mod?

[aihara111]

18 hours ago, aurreth said:

 

Hmmm... are you sure you are using the correct version, i.e. the LE version for LE, the new Alpha Test version for SE?  I usually get unpredictable results like these when I use an LE mod that is supposedly good for SE too, when it really isn't.

 

everything checked, no mods that shouldn't be installed for SE beside i use ECE not Racemenu

[CaptainJ03]

11 hours ago, remodel said:

Laura is in her catsuit and Katrina is standing guard.  When I ask Laura what she has for sale and the trade item window comes up, there's nothing for sale.

 

Any Ideas? 

Did you try to exit an re-enter the shop? I've had the same problem with Cursed Loot's Whip&Chain inn, (never with Laura) and that helped.

Maybe even exit shop, exit game, retry.

[DayTri]

12 hours ago, remodel said:

I'm trying out the mod for the first time.  I have DD5.1 loaded and built in BodySlide.   Laura is in her catsuit and Katrina is standing guard.  When I ask Laura what she has for sale and the trade item window comes up, there's nothing for sale.  I'm trying to figure out why but don't know where to start.  All other merchants trade menus work.

 

 

 

I have installed all the requirements: SexLab Animation Framework v1.62, SexLab Aroused Redux Baka Edition, Devious Devices LE 5.1, Fuz Ro D-oh V61, and SkyUI.

 

 

Any Ideas? 

 

I think the way merchants in skyrim work is that they all have a chest filled with their inventory, so I guess her chest is empty for some reason. Do you have some kind of mod that changes the way merchants or the economy works?

[remodel]

5 hours ago, Taki17 said:

Did you happen to start through an alterate start mod?

Yes, I use camping in the woods from alternate start.  How could alternat start affect this?

 

2 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Did you try to exit an re-enter the shop? I've had the same problem with Cursed Loot's Whip&Chain inn, (never with Laura) and that helped.

Maybe even exit shop, exit game, retry.

I tried all those.  No Inventory.

 

1 hour ago, DayTri said:

I think the way merchants in skyrim work is that they all have a chest filled with their inventory, so I guess her chest is empty for some reason. Do you have some kind of mod that changes the way merchants or the economy works?

I've read that too.  I'm wondering if it's in my load order and the chest is being overwritten by something.  I guess my next check is to check for conflicting mods in SSEEdit.

 

First time PC went into shop I had forgotten to build the DD5.1 BodySlide output and Laura's outfit was invisible.  Since I'm just testing and correcting my load order right now, I'll start a new game after rebuilding my Bashed Patch and see if that works.

 

Thanks for the responses.

 

[DayTri]

8 hours ago, remodel said:

Yes, I use camping in the woods from alternate start.  How could alternat start affect this?

 

I tried all those.  No Inventory.

 

I've read that too.  I'm wondering if it's in my load order and the chest is being overwritten by something.  I guess my next check is to check for conflicting mods in SSEEdit.

 

First time PC went into shop I had forgotten to build the DD5.1 BodySlide output and Laura's outfit was invisible.  Since I'm just testing and correcting my load order right now, I'll start a new game after rebuilding my Bashed Patch and see if that works.

 

Thanks for the responses.

 

 

 

Do you have a Wyre Bash patch?

 

I just noticed that the Wyre Bash contents checker edits some of the containers in the bondage shop, including one called "Strongbox" - maybe this is emptying out the store's inventory?

[Zaflis]

Playing on SE, followup quest to "Ghosts of the past" isn't starting. Laura has no dialog options and i have no quests ongoing.

[pete6124]

On 1/11/2022 at 2:18 PM, aurreth said:

 

You aren't supposed to get out of bed the 2nd time, the scene takes care of that.  You get in to bed, Sloane and Darius have some discussion, Darius comes into the cell, Sloane chases him out, and so on.  Eventually you will automatically stand up.  Yes, it is a bit prolonged and awkward, Laura said she'd tweak it later.  Just wait it out, and you'll end up back downstairs in a cell, where you take control of your character again.

 

If you installed the alpha fix after you already started Origin it will mess up, because your save expects Darius to be in one place and the fix moves him someplace else.  The fix only works if you continue with a save from before Origin begins, i.e. before you give Glemme her sword back.  The fix alters the Origin quest script, so you can't install it on a save where that script is already running.

 

Hm, so prior to the alpha patch, I got to the cell and darius never came in, never got in the bed the first time, it just kind of stalled. So, then I installed the alpha update and loaded a save prior to origin starting, then played through again. This time Darius did appear, stuff happened, but the second time I went to bed, I just kept lying there instead of getting up. Probably been waiting 6-8 minutes now, tried loading a save, still no dice. Any ideas?

[Laura]

10 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Playing on SE, followup quest to "Ghosts of the past" isn't starting. Laura has no dialog options and i have no quests ongoing.

Did you leave as soon as they did or did you wait for the dialogue to end?

[1337DragonWolf]

Hey, a bit of a recommendation/request: in-shop modelling. A prospective customer comes in, and requests the "cute [insert your race here/whatever she is(if using a race mod)] model the gear for me". Laura then begs you to go along with it, perhaps to Katarina's chagrin since she's asking a customer(albeit one who is also a friend) to model for a customer. From then on, you can request to model for visiting customers.

[aurreth]

15 hours ago, pete6124 said:

Hm, so prior to the alpha patch, I got to the cell and darius never came in, never got in the bed the first time, it just kind of stalled. So, then I installed the alpha update and loaded a save prior to origin starting, then played through again. This time Darius did appear, stuff happened, but the second time I went to bed, I just kept lying there instead of getting up. Probably been waiting 6-8 minutes now, tried loading a save, still no dice. Any ideas?

 

When you lie down on the bed do Sloane and Darius go to bed as well and have a conversation?  Does Darius come into the cell and stand over you while you are lying in bed?  Do Sloane and Darius leave the bedroom?

 

There is a lot of stuff that happens during that "sleep", and you spend a lot of time just lying on the bed while NPCs move and talk around you.  There aren't any fade-to-blacks to break things up, and overall the pacing is a bit awkward.  That also, unfortunately, makes diagnosing the problem difficult:  knowing what the player is doing doesn't help, we need to know what the NPCs are saying, because pretty much the entire scene is you just listening to them.

[Zaflis]

9 hours ago, Laura said:

Did you leave as soon as they did or did you wait for the dialogue to end?

I did wait and since then did some other shop quests, saved and even restarted Skyrim inbetween. Just no followup available for main quest.

[Laura]

1 hour ago, Zaflis said:

I did wait and since then did some other shop quests, saved and even restarted Skyrim inbetween. Just no followup available for main quest.

You also said you don't have dialogue options. You meant no new dialogue option for the new quest, right? If that's the case, use command 'GetStage Laura_SQ07_Quest' and let me know what it says.