SexLab Inflation Framework SE

[gghhjj666]

I was thinking about trying to find a body preset and then try to use it as my settings in SLIF and therefore I was wondering how exactly the percentage values in slif bodymorph page works. Will a value of lets say 100% for some breast value be different if my base body already changed that value? My guess is yes. And if so how does it change so I know how to choose my values in order for it to match the preset I'm trying to replicate. Lastly anyone have any big good looking presets that could fit?

[GranolaLord]

I would like to know what each of these sections actually do.  For anyone still around that is, I realize the mod is probably not looked after.

I understand only one of them and thats the "Values and Sliders" sections. You can see how much something like Fill Her Up has done to your character, and then you can set custom values like a racemenu slider outside of the racemenu.... that you would want to do for .... some reason???

What does "Bodymorphs" do ?
I adjust the values and nothing happens set several of them to 1000%, what do these things mean?

What does "Presets" do?

What does "Set list category" do?

There seems to be a lack of documentation actually explaining anything and a lot of dead ends or required tulius json for 3bbb ...   its a mess. For anyone that can break some of this stuff down.

 

[UsernameTaken666]

4 hours ago, GranolaLord said:

I would like to know what each of these sections actually do.  For anyone still around that is, I realize the mod is probably not looked after.

I understand only one of them and thats the "Values and Sliders" sections. You can see how much something like Fill Her Up has done to your character, and then you can set custom values like a racemenu slider outside of the racemenu.... that you would want to do for .... some reason???

What does "Bodymorphs" do ?
I adjust the values and nothing happens set several of them to 1000%, what do these things mean?

What does "Presets" do?

What does "Set list category" do?

There seems to be a lack of documentation actually explaining anything and a lot of dead ends or required tulius json for 3bbb ...   its a mess. For anyone that can break some of this stuff down.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/2043-sexlab-inflation-framework-documentation/

Try there ^^

[MrNok]

I'm having difficulties trying to get SLIF to work with FHU, specifically the oral inflation. Vag and anal (PregnancyBelly) work fine

I set oral morph to BigBelly in FHU. I can see that when oral values go up in FHU the morph applies in SLIF, but then instantly goes back to zero. I then tried to manually change morph value in SLIF MCM and upon exiting the menu I can again see that the morph applies, belly gets big, but then immediately resets,

 

I'm also not sure where to check logs. I enabled logging in MCM, but couldn't find any log files

Edited August 26, 2024 by MrNok

[Watson152]

anyone have some slider values i can plug in for morph that work to make nice breasts and ass? tried playing with them myself and made a horror of an abomination instead of shapely bimbos 

[NeonSword]

After quite a bit of effort I finally have this mod working with 3BA and looking halfway decent so I thought I would share my notes.

 

SLIF Morphed Character

Spoiler

 

I have attached the value file below. You can install this like a normal mod and it will add another option to the Bodymorphs tab in SLIF. You will need the 3BA SLIF bodymorph config. A few things to know:

1. The way SLIF works is additive to your character's existing body meaning that if you use my morphs with a different body preset or with a different weight you will get different results. I am assuming this is why people are hesitant to share SLIF bodymorph values. I used Lust of the Gods at 100 weight for the screenshots. Any other preset that has similar proportions should work well enough.
2. One great thing about SLIF is that you can limit how extreme existing bodymorphs get without having to change the percentages in the Bodymorphs tab. You can do this by choosing Maximum as the Category in the Bodymorphs tab and lowering the number for each slider. The downside of this is that it means morphs have to be "calibrated" for a certain maximum. If you took morphs which were made with a max of 10 in mind and then increased the max to 30 or 40, things would start looking eldritch horror-y pretty quickly.
   1. My morphs are based a maximum of 20, meaning that you will only see the morphs in the screenshots once the values of the different nodes (Breasts, Belly, Butt) are 20 in the "Values and Sliders" tab. Essentially all the mods that contribute to morphing your character would need to math up to 20.
   2. If my morphs are too extreme you can limit them by changing the Maximum to something lower like 10 for each of the morphs in the Bodymorphs tab. If you want the breast maximum to be smaller you could set all the morphs that contribute to the Breasts Bodymorph to 15 or 10.
3. Currently my morphs have values input for both Butt and Belly. Because there are morphs which overlap in these two nodes you could get essentially double the result in the screenshots if you have mods which scale the Belly and Butt nodes. To solve this, simply zero out the Percentage for the morphs you don't want. I personally wanted mods which scale the belly to affect the butt/legs as well.
4. If you don't want the pregnancy belly you can just zero the morph which controls that. (It is only the PregnancyBelly one).
5. You can have multiple bodymorph files and can switch between them at any time using the dropdown in the Bodymorphs tab. In fact I highly recommend making a copy of the morph file you want to tweak before you start because SLIF will immediately save the file when you start changing percentages. Accidentally click the Set default value button? Yeah all your values are now gone.
   1. It doesn't seem to matter what you name this file either so you can make it make sense to you. I stuck with the convention of numbering them though.
6. If you find that you get to a value of 20 too quickly for your morphing mods, you might have to change the math settings in SLIF.
7. The names of the morphs in the Bodymorphs tab correspond to the names of the morphs for the body though, confusingly, not the names shown in Bodyslide. In the spoilers below are the "translations" of the names to what shows in Bodyslide.

Breasts - SLIF to Bodyslide morph names

Spoiler

SLIF => Bodyslide
Breasts => Size
BreastsSmall => Smaller 1
BreastsSmall2 => Smaller 2
BreastsNewSH => Silly Huge
BreastsFantasy => Fantasy
DoubleMelon => Melons
BreastsTogether => Push Together
BreastCenter => Center
BreastCenterBig => Center Big
BreastTopSlope => Top Slope
BreastCleavage => Cleavage
BreastFlatness2 => Flatness
BreastsGone => Gone
BreastGravity2 => Gravity
PushUp => Push Up
BreastHeight => Height
BreastPerkiness => Perkiness
BreastWidth => Width

AreolaSize => Areola Size
NippleUp => Point Up
NippleDown => Point Down
NippleSize => Size
NippleLength => Length
NippleManga => Defined
NipplePerkiness => Perky
NipplePerkManga => Puffy
NippleTip => Tip
NippleDistance => Distance
NippleDip => Dip
NipBGone => Gone

 

Butt - SLIF to Bodyslide morph names

Spoiler

SLIF => Bodyslide

ChestDepth => Chest Depth
ChestWidth => Chest Width
RibsProminance => Ribs
SternumDepth => Sternum Depth
SternumHeight => Sternum Height
BigTorso => Size
Waist => Waist Size
WaistHeight => Waist Height
WideWaistLine => Waist Line
ChubbyWaist => Chubby Waist
ButtClassic => Shape Classic
ButtShape2 => Shape Lower
ButtCrack => Crack
Butt => Size
ButtSmall => Smaller
BigButt => Big
ChubbyButt => Chubby
AppleCheeks => Apple
RoundAss => Round
Groin => Groin
LegShapeClassic => Shape Classic
LegsThin => Thin
SlimThighs => Slim
Thighs => Thighs
ChubbyLegs => Chubby
KneeHeight => Knee Height
KneeShape => Knee Shape
CalfSize => Calf Size
CalfSmooth => Calf Smooth

 

Belly - SLIF to Bodyslide morph names

Spoiler

SLIF => Bodyslide

Belly => Size
BigBelly => Big
PregnancyBelly => Pregnant
TummyTuck => Tuck

 

Anyway, I hope this helps some people. At the least it is a place to start for making your own morphs. I know the pain of trying to get all this to work.

SLIF Slicc to Thicc bodymorphs.zip

Edited October 10, 2024 by NeonSword

[effrenatus]

Hello!

When loading into my savegame, i see the correct belly inflation only for a short moment, if at all, and then the size gets completely reset like to 0. Only after some minutes when a mod updates the inflation, it gets the size it should.

I have that for some time now. Sometimes i have temporarily funkiness due to my modlist, but this one persists...

I wonder if that began when i updated SL Parasites to ParasitesSE20230226.

Is a script stuck or something? Do you have an idea what i could look for? Please  

 

EDIT: Is my XPMSE 4.8 too old, is that the reason? (Weird, the XPMSE mcm still sais 4.2.) Please tell me, i can only install stuff manually so i'd like to avoid to go through this update if i can.

Edited October 31, 2024 by effrenatus

[Robert T]

On 4/25/2024 at 12:52 PM, xtro334 said:

 

SLIF has pretty much always worked after installation for everything but Milk Mod Economy.

For it to work with Milk Mod Economy and 3BA, one have to install patch for 3BA (Is linked to it in Milk Mod Economy thread), and be careful to follow the settings EXACTLY as in pictures in the Milk Mod Economy threads.

Do any deviation and it will not work.

 

Is this the patch you're referring to?

 

 

[ahsdg]

What is difference between default and morph modus?

 

[safado]

On 11/5/2024 at 9:27 PM, ahsdg said:

What is difference between default and morph modus?

 

 

SLIF default basically converts specific belly, butt, breast nodes scales to specific morphs combinations to make it more visually "correct", when applied to the body mesh, SLIF-morph just keep track, no need to convert.  The morph only applies if the body mesh has an entry with the exact morph name in it embedded .tri files.  All node scales or bodymorphs are done by Racemenu NIO. SLIF is just a converter aggregator helper.
 

Spoiler

NIO-nodescales is the original inflation that basically scales over 1 the character skeleton nodes, it needs a custom skeleton like xp32 versions to do belly.  An example of basic scaling of the nodes is the character's height.  The NIO-morphs instead work on the character's 3d mesh polygons, and that why it looks mush better. The morphs are arrays of offsets values applied to specific regions of the mesh. The names and visual effect of the morphs need to match between different meshes to make it consistent visually, that why the meshes need to re-built in Bodyslide with built morph enabled and the same preset.

 

If a mod that does body parts inflation effects using Racemenu's NIO and also has code to be aware of SLIF, it can send NIO-nodescales modifications to SLIF-Default, or it can send NIO-morph modification to SLIF-morph.  SLIF will take all SLIF-default values, aggregate, and convert them to NIO-morphs them based on config. SLIF-morphs just aggregates, send to NIO-morph, keep tracks of morphs. 

 

Originally (skyrimLE), mods will overwrite the inflation effects of other mods and create runtime conflict of effects like belly inflated and a few seconds later deflated in a constant loop, SLIF framework work out the conflict.  Newer NIO solved that with better integrated aggregation, but SLIF help keep tracks of morph using SKyUI.  There are some "bugs" in SLIF and mods, like Obody sending 0 value morphs to NIO instead of removing the morph.  Zero (or very small fraction) morph to NIO will make the mesh section disappear.  I think if a morph is 0.01 or -0.99 (not sure yet about range)  should be removed instead of calculated.  Still working that out in my game by disabling obody refit and making some mods like ABBA use NIO-morph instead of slif.

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by safado

[DJShamrock]

Hey all having an issue that Im curiois if anyone has seen or can help with. For some reason when I should be having belly node scaling (all slif mods show this to be true) it is instead scaling Anus2 and not scaling any belly node at all. Ive never seen this happen in the past and am really stumped! Breasts seem to scale on the right nodes.

[mlgcancanrandom]

I can't seem to get the scrotum inflation thing in extra settings to work, I've been up and down the mcm and forums looking for an answer but everyone seems to have no problems with it. Is there anything else to select to activate it in the MCM aside from ticking the activator for the setting? Do I have to change a morph somewhere or fiddle with whatever the hell a "modus" is?

[thesilverwalnut]

On 6/25/2024 at 5:30 PM, Neyri LL said:

Is it possible to assign new sliders to SLIF? I want to tell it to morph breasts to a specific preference shape, but the available sliders are a bit lacking!

I was wanting to know this as well, did you find out anything or does anyone else know how to add sliders?

[Stibidibapbap]

Hi,

I have a strange issue where one specific slider doesn't work in game. Every slider works but "BreastsNewSH". It works in Bodyslide but I can't update it in game via SLIF.

Any suggestion why it could be so?

[Nethertale]

Can I ask what other mods besides SLIF & Fill her up (I use Baka one) can inflate body?

I'm having an issue that what ever i do, Reset, Update, Uninstall & ... it does nothing and my character's belly is still inflated

Edited February 7, 2025 by Nethertale

[XarisZ]

On 8/26/2024 at 11:22 AM, MrNok said:

I'm having difficulties trying to get SLIF to work with FHU, specifically the oral inflation. Vag and anal (PregnancyBelly) work fine

I set oral morph to BigBelly in FHU. I can see that when oral values go up in FHU the morph applies in SLIF, but then instantly goes back to zero. I then tried to manually change morph value in SLIF MCM and upon exiting the menu I can again see that the morph applies, belly gets big, but then immediately resets,

 

How exactly did you do that? Im trying to do the same but idk where to start

[KillJoyTROV]

Does anyone know why SLIF keep the MC's belly at 3.0 even when none of the mods it is using have it inflated at all?

[NCLord]

Does anyone know how I can uninstall SLIF without it breaking my save? The MCM unistall function just makes it stay in "working" status forever, and disabling the mod via vortex leaves the save broken (you can load the save, but you cannot do anything else to cause loading, as it leads to an instant crash)

I want to remove it because it does not work for me with the Being Female addon, and in fact stops any inflation from showing (while the inflation due to pregnancy shows when the mod is disabled). I would realy like to know how I can solve this. Anyone able to help at all?

[XarisZ]

Is there a way to make different mods use different nodes as well as the the same ones?

Lets say a preg mod for the PregBelly node and FHU to BigBelly

[XXXiveXXX]

I have a question - is there a way to get sex to inflate breasts? Like FHU does with belly? Let's say all categories listed in SLIF - Breasts and Butt, Belly being handled by FHU.

 

As far as I understand, SLIF is just a framework, it doesn't apply any bodymorph changes on its own. Yet from people's posts I get a (probably false) sense that they manage their whole bodies to inflate from sex, not just bellies.

 

NOT using MME, or being female, not using any of those mods. Just basic sex with people and creatures, is it possible for SLIF to inflate all the morphs it lists in MCM?

 

Followup question - if that is not the case, how possible would it be for me to get in contact with a modder who would create a FHU-style mod that affects the rest of the body nodes - Breasts, Butt, Thighs.

 

I'm still troubleshooting my SLIF build but either I'm really dense and y'all are enjoying glorious body cum inflation while I'm stuck with just the FHU belly or I'm misunderstanding what can be done with just SLIF itself.

[UsernameTaken666]

5 hours ago, XXXiveXXX said:

I have a question - is there a way to get sex to inflate breasts? Like FHU does with belly? Let's say all categories listed in SLIF - Breasts and Butt, Belly being handled by FHU.

 

As far as I understand, SLIF is just a framework, it doesn't apply any bodymorph changes on its own. Yet from people's posts I get a (probably false) sense that they manage their whole bodies to inflate from sex, not just bellies.

 

NOT using MME, or being female, not using any of those mods. Just basic sex with people and creatures, is it possible for SLIF to inflate all the morphs it lists in MCM?

 

Followup question - if that is not the case, how possible would it be for me to get in contact with a modder who would create a FHU-style mod that affects the rest of the body nodes - Breasts, Butt, Thighs.

 

I'm still troubleshooting my SLIF build but either I'm really dense and y'all are enjoying glorious body cum inflation while I'm stuck with just the FHU belly or I'm misunderstanding what can be done with just SLIF itself.

Look into Arousal Based Breast Adjuster, ABBA.

[XXXiveXXX]

8 hours ago, UsernameTaken666 said:

Look into Arousal Based Breast Adjuster, ABBA.

Yeah that is an option, thanks.

[Dendriah]

will this work with CBBE 3ba? or no 

 

[Solissix]

Yes, it works. You do however, need to download the tullius morphs patch for it; and then set slif  up properly. 

[Dokurobe]

Sorry the probably noob question but...where can i find this tullius morphs patch? I don't see it here and in CBBE 3ba download page. I can't select it in game so i don't have it. Tried googling and i can't find. Everyone recommend to use it but no one tells where to download it.