sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[Will55]

11 hours ago, Martok73 said:

But why does your screenshot look alot better and different from the screenshots on the mod page?

Probably because among the >300 mods I have running, some of them influence that mod. Prettier bandits seems to have reign over not just bandits.

Why don't you just install it and find out how they look in your game?

If you then like it: keep it. If not remove it.

Just remember that many modders who make such Skyrim/F4 female improvement mods are Asians and anime/big boob conflict is almost built in there and only with effort can they diminish both. So maybe he did just that.

 

Addendum: I just waded through my core list of 1232 Skyrim mods: the above is the ONLY female falmer mod that I have. So either use it and see or do not.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Will55

[Farsh-nuke]

4 hours ago, Will55 said:

Probably because among the >300 mods I have running, some of them influence that mod. Prettier bandits seems to have reign over not just bandits.

Why don't you just install it and find out how they look in your game?

If you then like it: keep it. If not remove it.

Just remember that many modders who make such Skyrim/F4 female improvement mods are Asians and anime/big boob conflict is almost built in there and only with effort can they diminish both. So maybe he did just that.

 

Addendum: I just waded through my core list of 1232 Skyrim mods: the above is the ONLY female falmer mod that I have. So either use it and see or do not.

In fairness Martok has explained in the past why he's so reticent to try new mods, that even when deleted some files linger and affect other things...

Will I know we disagree about a lolt of things but I assure you plenty of white American men are also into the anime and big titty look. I am not one but there are a lot out there.

[Will55]

2 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

In fairness Martok has explained in the past why he's so reticent to try new mods, that even when deleted some files linger and affect other things...

Will I know we disagree about a lolt of things but I assure you plenty of white American men are also into the anime and big titty look. I am not one but there are a lot out there.

I agree with him totally about BBLS and other complex mods that infiltrate files at all levels. SLSurvival is one infamous one.

But a limited ambition mod such as the one above and probably 60% of mods?

All he has to do is make a duplicate profile, put the mod in and test a save, If it hits the fan he can just delete the profile and post "I told you so" ?

 

WRT big boobs I find anything past C or C+ superfluous especially in young girls and while appealing to many you should see the same ones at age 30+, 40+ and 50+.

That Brazzers ad above with the silicon "enhanced" boobs shows how bad they can look but in the dark they still feel quite good. However, if done properly they can really look good and can totally restore the self-image of the owner and the only clue then is their failure to collapse into the axilla when she is lying on her. back.

I tried several times to show my idea of an ideal pair but for some reason it won't load. 

As for anime? I have no idea why people like it unless it is due to amplified ephebophilia which most males have suffered from at one time or another usually temporarily.

[Farsh-nuke]

5 hours ago, Will55 said:

I agree with him totally about BBLS and other complex mods that infiltrate files at all levels. SLSurvival is one infamous one.

But a limited ambition mod such as the one above and probably 60% of mods?

All he has to do is make a duplicate profile, put the mod in and test a save, If it hits the fan he can just delete the profile and post "I told you so" ?

 

WRT big boobs I find anything past C or C+ superfluous especially in young girls and while appealing to many you should see the same ones at age 30+, 40+ and 50+.

That Brazzers ad above with the silicon "enhanced" boobs shows how bad they can look but in the dark they still feel quite good. However, if done properly they can really look good and can totally restore the self-image of the owner and the only clue then is their failure to collapse into the axilla when she is lying on her. back.

I tried several times to show my idea of an ideal pair but for some reason it won't load. 

As for anime? I have no idea why people like it unless it is due to amplified ephebophilia which most males have suffered from at one time or another usually temporarily.

I agree with you about Martok.


The second paragraph contains a statement takes the cake for most  WTF statement from you lol I won't single it out as I know you most likely believe you have hard evidence to back it up and I really do not want to get into a discussion about it.

 

[Martok73]

20 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

Well maybe I'm wrong then maybe it's a difference of ENB or mulrtiple models like Will said. You're like the person at McDonalds convinced you got the wrong order because the glossy promo shot doesn't look like the burger you got. It's the same mod

McDonald's makes me sick everytime I try to eat that shit they try to pass off as food.

 

11 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

In fairness Martok has explained in the past why he's so reticent to try new mods, that even when deleted some files linger and affect other things...

Will I know we disagree about a lolt of things but I assure you plenty of white American men are also into the anime and big titty look. I am not one but there are a lot out there.

Thank you, and I'm not into anime and never have been, nor do I like or care for breasts larger than about a C cup. I've always been of the mindset that anything more than a mouthful is a waste ?

 

8 hours ago, Will55 said:

I agree with him totally about BBLS and other complex mods that infiltrate files at all levels. SLSurvival is one infamous one.

But a limited ambition mod such as the one above and probably 60% of mods?

All he has to do is make a duplicate profile, put the mod in and test a save, If it hits the fan he can just delete the profile and post "I told you so"

Thanks and honestly I completely forgot that I can make more profiles that are separate from each other... I'm old, have had 2 strokes, and my damn mind isn't what it used to be anymore, gimmie a break ?

 

3 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

I agree with you about Martok.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Is that a jab? WTF did I do now? Damn I'm so confused ?

 

 

[Farsh-nuke]

24 minutes ago, Martok73 said:

 

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Is that a jab? WTF did I do now? Damn I'm so confused ?

 

 

No. I was just agreeing with Will that the mod in question probably isn't one of the break your computer mods and that you could probably always test it on a separate profile.

I also hate McDonalds and personally don't like large breasts or anime but I don't body shame and people are free to eat and watch what they like to long as it's fiction

[Martok73]

1 hour ago, Farsh-nuke said:

No. I was just agreeing with Will that the mod in question probably isn't one of the break your computer mods and that you could probably always test it on a separate profile.

Oh, ok, lol.

 

1 hour ago, Farsh-nuke said:

I also hate McDonalds and personally don't like large breasts or anime but I don't body shame and people are free to eat and watch what they like to long as it's fiction

haha, something we agree on... IDC what people watch or eat real or fiction, just as long as they don't try to push it on me or down my throat, they respect me and I'll respect them, and likewise not push what I eat or watch or play down their throats, LOL. ?

[Will55]

9 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

The second paragraph contains a statement takes the cake for most  WTF statement from you lol I won't single it out as I know you most likely believe you have hard evidence to back it up and I really do not want to get into a discussion about it.

 

I also hate McDonalds and personally don't like large breasts or anime but I don't body shame and people are free to eat and watch what they like to long as it's fiction

Hey! I shamed no one!

I just posted my own feeling/personal preferences about "beauty" and the results of multiple observations of such and what happens when it becomes 'overloaded" by weight or time and yes that can be called "hard evidence" but I will not discuss how and why.

You have no idea what a girl with a C cup at 16 looks like at 50. Enough to make you and her both cry. Some women do not care about breasts, usually ones without much there. But almost all with B+ or more are breast conscious, both sexually and emotionally, and why not? But those mammoth DDDs & EEEs etc You should see what that does to them physically as they age. 

However, i admit to digression and you can blame those anime  and Brazzer ads for such.

 

WRT McDonald's garbage When I was a child my father took me to the first one in our state for a takeaway as he was working. The fries or chips were just bearable, but the "hamburger" was disgusting and thereafter it was back to Greasy Joe's bacon and egg roll. Never set foot inside a McDonald's since nor touched their garbage.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Will55

[Will55]

8 hours ago, Martok73 said:

McDonald's makes me sick everytime I try to eat that shit they try to pass off as food.

 

Thank you, and I'm not into anime and never have been, nor do I like or care for breasts larger than about a C cup. I've always been of the mindset that anything more than a mouthful is a waste ?

 

Thanks and honestly I completely forgot that I can make more profiles that are separate from each other... I'm old, have had 2 strokes, and my damn mind isn't what it used to be anymore, gimmie a break ?

 

Agree totally on 1 & 2 but you don't need a break for your health as you deserve one for the intensity with which you seek bugs for CliftonJD & Pfiffy. I could not possibly be as dedicated as you.

 

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Will55

[Farsh-nuke]

One of my best friends is a tall genius lady who likes to feel small compared to her partners and so wants a man taller than she is. Considering she is taller than I am this perspective causes a lot of men to feel upset. I respect her right to be interested in who she is interested in and I respect yours too.

And for the record I know from listening to and reading the views of women that large breasts are actually a pain to deal with practically since bras for large breasts are generally ugly and expensive and they can cause women to have back pain. 

At the same time one of the Porn Actresses I follow on twitter gleefully and proudly boasted of getting breast enlargement surgery and made clear she was doing it for herself. My opinion does not matter when it comes to what she does with her body but I was so happy for her at how happy she was with the choice she had made. People deserve to live their best lives in bodies they are comfortable in.

~Clifton, I am sorry for the digression lol

[CliftonJD]

On 8/8/2022 at 12:17 PM, Will55 said:

They come from the mod whose source I posted above. There seems to be 3 models available.

thank you, i'll take a look

On 8/8/2022 at 4:44 PM, Martok73 said:

So now the question is why do I have both Solitude and Windhelm available in the City dialog for some random generic slave hooker, but nether shows up for Oflina Gray-Mane? I checked the second char that owns both houses and is Thane, and sure enough both Solitude and Windhelm show up for random generic slave hookers, but do not show up for any of the unique non slave hookers I checked. NPCs checked were Oflina, Narri, Hroki, and Camelia. So yeah that's really strange and I have no explanation as to why either. So my slave hookers have all destinations showing available in the City dialog, but still missing the Thieves Guild from both of my chars that are GM of the Thieves Guild. Skaal village and Raven Rock is still missing form all dialog including the slave hookers tho and no Ivarsted on any of my hookers either even tho the main quest is finished. I think that's it, will check more later tonight or tomorrow when I have time to play again.

weird

On 8/8/2022 at 4:44 PM, Martok73 said:

So when clicking on the "release" button in the mcm to release her from the pahe clone cell, does that put her back into the game world or just mark her for deletion and remove her from the mcm list?

think she just gets marked for delete and removed from the list, definitely not returned to the game

On 8/8/2022 at 4:44 PM, Martok73 said:

Oh that would be so cool, I mean I just found out I could enslave falmer so having decent looking females in addition to all the ugly ass males would be really awesome.

usually i found that the mods who make pretty falmer (or draugr or dwarven)usually tend to make them like generic npc's so they would fall under the normal circumstances for enslavement instead

On 8/8/2022 at 4:44 PM, Martok73 said:

BTW, I have a question concerning slaves and their dialog. I've got two slaves at Lakeview Manor under HSH control via the permanent house cell, and for some reason their dialog is stuck. One slave is a generic forsworn warlord and the other is Salonia (forgot last name) from the Dawnguard questline the Volkihar vampire bitch that tries to kill you in Redwater Den during the quest to fill up the Bloodstone Chalice... Anyway, both slaves when activating them to talk to them do not give a dialog window at all, they just reply with "..." no audio, no dialog, no nothing, just ... via subtitles. I have not touched these slaves at all since they completed their training and they were working just fine. Their names are still there and everything looks fine when I check them via console but for whatever reason I can't talk to them at all. Since HSH doesn't have a "reset slave" button like PAHE does and all I can do with it's MCM is teleport the salve to me, do you have any ideas as to what may have caused them to loose their dialog? Or any idea how to fix them? They are walking around sandboxing like nothing is wrong but when trying to talk to them it's just "..." so I'm at a loss here.

first salonia to come to mind is salonia carvain, who tries to reach the wedding in solitude, but no idea why her or a random forsworn boss type npc would lose dialogue. certainly no help for any of them in hsh.

another modder made this (i forget who posted it here):

 PAHcommands200921-SE.zip

with that mod active you should get a new dialogue added to slaves and a different dialogue added for hsh slaves. using the new dialogue on slaves can result in new sandbaxing behaviors, while using the dialogue on hsh slaves can return them to pahe dialogues. this mod is meant to be restoring them to pahe from its own mod so it can have a new bug as if under both pahe and hsh. best is to restore them to hsh again to see if that fixes their dialogue and continue using the traditional hsh dialogue for permanent removal. sometimes it might also help to move them to a new home or to the restless hunter before returning them to hsh

 

 

[Martok73]

5 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

weird

IKR, it's like uber strange... but yeah, Skaal Village, Raven Rock, and the Thieves Guild is still not showing up for either of the 2 test chars that have both finished the dragonborn dlc, owns sevrin manor, and is gm of the thieves guild, so not sure what's going on with that at this point as I have absolutely nothing that touches either of those installed so there should be 0 conflicts with anything for those places. TDF still shows 0 conflicts with any mod I have installed.

 

8 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

think she just gets marked for delete and removed from the list, definitely not returned to the game

That's cool, didn't wanna happen to run into her somewhere in game before she got "removed" ?

 

9 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

usually i found that the mods who make pretty falmer (or draugr or dwarven)usually tend to make them like generic npc's so they would fall under the normal circumstances for enslavement instead

huh, well that kinda sucks in a way, but in a way kinda makes sense as to my knowledge there are no female falmer animations. I've seen the mod that adds female drauger that look alot like vanilla drauger and I've seen the mod that makes female dragur use strap-ons, which is kinda weird but ok. Kinda sad tho that to have pretty falmer/snow elves, they have to be regular npcs and not creatures like their male counterpart. But it does make sense from available animations point of view. Still hopefully you'll be able to work your magic with them so we can "play" with them in the near future. ?

 

15 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

first salonia to come to mind is salonia carvain, who tries to reach the wedding in solitude, but no idea why her or a random forsworn boss type npc would lose dialogue. certainly no help for any of them in hsh.

The one I'm referring to is Salonia Caelia the vampire chick that tries to kill the player during the Vampire side Dawnguard quest to fill the Bloodchalice at the blood pool in Redwater Den. She had been working just fine right up to the point of her "trainer" coming to me telling me they had trained this slave as far as they could. I was able to talk to her normally one time after she finished her training, now she just shows "..." where the subtitles are and the dialog window doesn't appear at all. Her trainer still works fine, but for whatever reason she's bugged. Wonder if it has something to do with the fact that during the quest to fill the Bloodchalice in Dawnguard that she kills the other vampire there, then becomes hostile and tries to kill you resulting in her death? I chose to enslave her when her health got low rather than kill her so wonder if that has anything to do with why she's bugged out now?

 

19 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

PAHcommands200921-SE.zip 22.37 kB · 0 downloads

with that mod active you should get a new dialogue added to slaves and a different dialogue added for hsh slaves. using the new dialogue on slaves can result in new sandbaxing behaviors, while using the dialogue on hsh slaves can return them to pahe dialogues. this mod is meant to be restoring them to pahe from its own mod so it can have a new bug as if under both pahe and hsh. best is to restore them to hsh again to see if that fixes their dialogue and continue using the traditional hsh dialogue for permanent removal. sometimes it might also help to move them to a new home or to the restless hunter before returning them to hsh

I've never seen this and have no idea what it is nor what it does, so I'm abit confused as to if you are suggesting I download it and see if it restores her dialog or if you think it caused it? I'm just confused, and nether of the two slaves in question have any dialog at all, the window doesn't even popup and they are both listed in the HSH MCM at the cell I have at Lakeview Manor so I have no way to move them to a new home/cell before returning them to HSH cause they are already in HSH. So yeah I'm confused as to what you're suggesting sorry.

[CliftonJD]

On 7/31/2022 at 8:21 AM, Pfiffy said:

About the training ig et a little step forward: The ast 3 Hookers are missing the dialog condition that checkes for the cool down effect. Adding it makes at least all Hookers behave in the same way, but it is still not working properly.  

On 8/1/2022 at 9:28 AM, CliftonJD said:

after reading your post i've added the magic effect condition to the added 3 hookers:

think i've responded again since that post, something about a bug between the cooldown of hooker 4 and hooker 1 or 2, but unable to find my other post...anyhow having narrowed it down to that i took another look at the dialogue conditions and found some of the property aliases in the hooker training for hooker 4 and i think 5 too, not sure..i made the changes right away after realizing it, but didn't believe it would have such an impact for those particular property aliases so i tested the new changes before posting it. seems to me all the hooker training cooldowns are now acting as intended:

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

[CliftonJD]

19 minutes ago, Martok73 said:

huh, well that kinda sucks in a way, but in a way kinda makes sense as to my knowledge there are no female falmer animations. I've seen the mod that adds female drauger that look alot like vanilla drauger and I've seen the mod that makes female dragur use strap-ons, which is kinda weird but ok. Kinda sad tho that to have pretty falmer/snow elves, they have to be regular npcs and not creatures like their male counterpart.

that i think tends to be more on the mod author's preference that some mods might make female falmers as female creatures, i think immersive creatures might do that. but usually mods that aim to make them pretty tend to make them human

 

1 hour ago, Martok73 said:

've never seen this and have no idea what it is nor what it does, so I'm abit confused as to if you are suggesting I download it and see if it restores her dialog or if you think it caused it? I'm just confused, and nether of the two slaves in question have any dialog at all, the window doesn't even popup and they are both listed in the HSH MCM at the cell I have at Lakeview Manor so I have no way to move them to a new home/cell before returning them to HSH cause they are already in HSH. So yeah I'm confused as to what you're suggesting sorry.

just a suggestion to try it, no idea if it'll help but only a second to try it

On 8/8/2022 at 4:44 PM, Martok73 said:

On 8/8/2022 at 12:13 PM, CliftonJD said:

i'm familiar enough modding another mod similar to it that if that mod don't put those in place of falmer i could easily make a patch for it once we confirm the appearance or where she comes from

Oh that would be so cool, I mean I just found out I could enslave falmer so having decent looking females in addition to all the ugly ass males would be really awesome.

only seems to be missing a few spawns of the mod i was using before so its an easy fix, are you looking for a full replacer version or a mix of the new pretty variant with the old ugly. i was previously using a mix of snow elf darkness of the mod "fresh women darkness" with the vanilla variant and set to mostly spawn the snow elf darkness variant, but that's also with them modified to level with the player

[Martok73]

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

that i think tends to be more on the mod author's preference that some mods might make female falmers as female creatures, i think immersive creatures might do that. but usually mods that aim to make them pretty tend to make them human

Yeah makes sense I guess, and given that so far I have not found any female falmer creature animations, it makes sense that female falmer are human/ish.

 

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

just a suggestion to try it, no idea if it'll help but only a second to try it

I will give it a try then and see what happens.

 

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

only seems to be missing a few spawns of the mod i was using before so its an easy fix, are you looking for a full replacer version or a mix of the new pretty variant with the old ugly. i was previously using a mix of snow elf darkness of the mod "fresh women darkness" with the vanilla variant and set to mostly spawn the snow elf darkness variant, but that's also with them modified to level with the player

Not sure by what you mean by a mix of new pretty with old ugly? Only the males are ugly from what I can tell. Is there ugly female ones? What is snow elf darkness? I'm confused now. I've never seen vanilla female falmer, and I don't think I've ever seen female drauger in vanilla either.

[idynaloak]

Long time no see. I am the one who previously said that PAH and Elysium Estate were not working at the same time.

I have deleted all the NSFW mods and re-installed them since then, but the MCM for PAH still does not seem to be displayed properly. seem to be causing the problem.

I am using the latest version of SKY_UI and SKSE that is appropriate for the version of the game I am using (SE, not AE). ...... I have no idea what to do next to solve the problem on my own and would appreciate your help.

I will attach the LOG. If you notice anything, please comment.

Papyrus.1.log

[Pfiffy]

12 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

think i've responded again since that post, something about a bug between the cooldown of hooker 4 and hooker 1 or 2, but unable to find my other post...anyhow having narrowed it down to that i took another look at the dialogue conditions and found some of the property aliases in the hooker training for hooker 4 and i think 5 too, not sure..i made the changes right away after realizing it, but didn't believe it would have such an impact for those particular property aliases so i tested the new changes before posting it. seems to me all the hooker training cooldowns are now acting as intended:

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 956.74 kB · 1 download

I had some trouble with one of my dirves and wasn't able to do anything here.

Thank you again!

 

I'm downloading ZAZ 9 now.... T.ara's monster...

[Will55]

 

My Wartimes profile has been copied and cleansed of all wartimes, sanguine, amputator, display model material. It helped that none of the latter 3 had been involved in game.

But still my PAH MCM is dead and I cannot enslave anyone in bleedout or paralyzed unless I slip them the devious enslavement rope.

I have spent 3 nights spare time in cleaning and moving my lev 90 char to this profile but I cannot get PAH to work at all as intended and I have no AYGAS/HSH installed.

 

I will try mod elimination tonight. If I transfer the save to a profile where PAH works it locks up on loading.

IMHO only proteus can save this char and I have only the mod author's saying that is possible as proof. ☹️

 

I remembered that I saved the profile 2 days ago and something I did since then ruined it. At least I can now check.

Edited August 11, 2022 by Will55

[redeyesandlonghair]

Hi I'd like all my slaves to be able to die from other npcs, is there an option for the mod to not set them as protected?

 

EDIT: On the assumption that the answer is no, I've taken this mod, changed the script so it sets the protected flag to false instead, because I dunno maybe that will also make the slaves not protected.  Should work.

Edited August 12, 2022 by redeyesandlonghair

[Will55]

I used a minimal profile with some 85 mods only. I used 8.1.2 and the previous one that had worked so well before.

In both cases I could not enslave a paralysed Belethor/stormclaok or anyone.

The MCM option show nothing under toggles while  debug show status and if I restart PAH even that goes.

The MCM enslavement page is utterly blank.

I went back to basics and checked and installed all the prerequisites and only added the mods that i needed to maintain the looks of my char (quite a few)

I cannot use PAH in any form. I no longer think that it is my fault as it spread to every profile even this bare bones one.

Tomorrow, I will strip off the looks mods and absolutely everything that is not a PAH requisite but I doubt that will do anything.

I apologize for whinging over it but I have tried multiple profiles and permutations of such for over 2 weeks now and it is nearing time to give up.

[Farsh-nuke]

47 minutes ago, Will55 said:

I used a minimal profile with some 85 mods only. I used 8.1.2 and the previous one that had worked so well before.

In both cases I could not enslave a paralysed Belethor/stormclaok or anyone.

The MCM option show nothing under toggles while  debug show status and if I restart PAH even that goes.

The MCM enslavement page is utterly blank.

I went back to basics and checked and installed all the prerequisites and only added the mods that i needed to maintain the looks of my char (quite a few)

I cannot use PAH in any form. I no longer think that it is my fault as it spread to every profile even this bare bones one.

Tomorrow, I will strip off the looks mods and absolutely everything that is not a PAH requisite but I doubt that will do anything.

I apologize for whinging over it but I have tried multiple profiles and permutations of such for over 2 weeks now and it is nearing time to give up.

1. Is this the same save?

2. Have you tried reinstalling skyrim?

[CliftonJD]

On 8/10/2022 at 5:29 PM, Martok73 said:

Not sure by what you mean by a mix of new pretty with old ugly? Only the males are ugly from what I can tell. Is there ugly female ones? What is snow elf darkness?

no, there aren't vanilla female falmer. that means these women will mix with the existing falmer males as random chance which will spawn or they can be set to completely replace the vanilla falmer

snow elf darkness are the falmer variant in fresh women darkness:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18602

On 8/11/2022 at 4:14 AM, idynaloak said:

Long time no see. I am the one who previously said that PAH and Elysium Estate were not working at the same time.

I have deleted all the NSFW mods and re-installed them since then, but the MCM for PAH still does not seem to be displayed properly. seem to be causing the problem.

I am using the latest version of SKY_UI and SKSE that is appropriate for the version of the game I am using (SE, not AE). ...... I have no idea what to do next to solve the problem on my own and would appreciate your help.

I will attach the LOG. If you notice anything, please comment.

Papyrus.1.log 3.14 MB · 0 downloads

if you've decompressed the paradise halls bsa, you need to also decompress the sl extension bsa

[Will55]

8 minutes ago, Farsh-nuke said:

1. Is this the same save?

No, it is a new game and a stripped profile that I use for testing
2. Have you tried reinstalling skyrim?

As I have a horror of letting Bethesda touch my games by "updating" I have not but I do have a virgin copy so that might be the WTG tomorrow.

Does anyone know what they are trying to do to SSE as I aware of a pending update held at arms' length for some weeks?

Nevertheless, a good suggestion as I was about to post a list of my plugins just in case someone knew.

 

[Farsh-nuke]

2 minutes ago, Will55 said:

 

There's a downgrade patcher on the nexus that works reliably

[CliftonJD]

12 hours ago, redeyesandlonghair said:

Hi I'd like all my slaves to be able to die from other npcs, is there an option for the mod to not set them as protected?

so far that i know of the protected status is hard coded into the quest alias so i can't make it optional. either always on or always off so if i disable protected mode, others won't be able to have their slaves protected