Guest Omega1084 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Best unban ever: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1552903-drutalbildo-banned/ So apparently Dark0ne's got a better sense of humor now ...wait what? .-. EVERYTHING I'VE EVER KNOWN IS COMING UNDONE AT THE SEAMS!! What even is this!? Q - Q Seriously, though... wtf? Does DrutalBildo give some great head through PMs or something?
Guest Omega1084 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Maybe it made Dark0ne laugh? But the other "inappropriate" usernames were way funnier and many used the same gimmick .-.
Kendo 2 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Less likely a sense of humor and more likely a sense of self preservation. I have NEVER known Dark0ne to be reasonable unless it serves an end that benefits him. The amount of back-lash Nexus and Dark0ne receives for how the staff acts is bound to hit home, no matter what THEY say or the occasional Nexus pom-pom shaker that weasels in here once in a while. If enough people point out the obvious and voice their opinions there WILL BE a push to correct what is going on. Nexus is staffed by power-tripping dorks. That is a fact. People are talking about it (and not in a good way). That is a fact too. It was only a matter of time until Dark0ne would be FORCED (yes FORCED) to do something about it, if only on the surface to protect the dying reputation his fucktard forum has now. One dubious post by Dark0ne does not undo the 900 pages of snarky pathetic Hall-of-Shame Banned bullshit he and his staff giggle about in their little chat room.
Melly Bxtch Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Less likely a sense of humor and more likely a sense of self preservation. I have NEVER known Dark0ne to be reasonable unless it serves an end that benefits him. The amount of back-lash Nexus and Dark0ne receives for how the staff acts is bound to hit home, no matter what THEY say or the occasional Nexus pom-pom shaker that weasels in here once in a while. If enough people point out the obvious and voice their opinions there WILL BE a push to correct what is going on. Nexus is staffed by power-tripping dorks. That is a fact. People are talking about it (and not in a good way). That is a fact too. It was only a matter of time until Dark0ne would be FORCED (yes FORCED) to do something about it, if only on the surface to protect the dying reputation his fucktard forum has now. One dubious post by Dark0ne does not undo the 900 pages of snarky pathetic Hall-of-Shame Banned bullshit he and his staff giggle about in their little chat room. To be fair, I saw exactly why you were banned: You deserved it. Or at LEAST a hefty warning. BUT, to be fair to you, I 100% agree with you. All of those cunts over there are WAY too happy with the fucking ban hammer. I've gone through FOUR accounts there because of those pricks and their idiotic "Laws" I mean, for fuck's sake, Dante banned me for DELETING A CONVERSATION THAT I FUCKING STARTED! Every single one of them are complete pricks. tl;dr: you deserved the ban, or a warning at least, Kendo, [And don't take this for hate, I actually LIKED your mods, but sometimes respect for modding and respect for not being an ass collide.] but yes, Nexus has retarded staff. I could run that place better on my own than they can combined.
Kendo 2 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Unless you read the PMs I sent to the staff you don't really know why I was banned. Did I tell them they're full shit? YES. Did I tell them how to do their phoney-baloney jobs? You're goddamned right I did. Someone needs to. I handled them the way they handle everyone else and they DID NOT like it. Regardless, my being an asshole has nothintg to do with how the Nexus staff conducts themselves. Did I deserve the ban? No. I abided by the TOS Dark0ne and I agreed to in 2006. I'm allowed to disagree with them. The TOS said so. 'The TESSource staff are not golden icons and can be disagreed with, etc.' The TOS I agreed to when Dark0ne happily took my 60 bucks for a lifetime membership stated that. In fact, you can look at my post history in the Kendo Girl mod for Oblivion and SEE ME doing it to LHammonds and Dark0ne. I abided by the agreement, I never went outside of it. THEY are the ones in the wrong and THEY KNOW IT. Dark0ne's sissy little parting jab in my banned topic proves my point. BTW, I'm the way I am on-line just like I am in real life. I live in the man's world. Mincing, fiddel-fart-fucking-around, and not being able to communicate a point can literally cost people their lives or do MILLIONS of dollars worth of damage. If I come off as an asshole...oh well. It is better than the contrived and fake courtesy 'polite' on-line types use and readily abandon. I don't say anything on-line that I wouldn't say to someone's face. That's why I have issue with how chickenshit the Nexus staff is.
Rayblue Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Dumbfucks such as this one in the pic are one of the reasons it's even hazardous to reply: either spoonfeed this troll or call him names and get flagged.
Guest Ragna_Rok Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 well, i had lots of work the last weeks. there was a chick, a little more bacon on the hips than i usually prefer, but ffs, she couldve sucked a golfball through a garden hose... just thought to share that in case folks wonder what i do when im not online here naggin about nexus
Guest xthejester Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 well, i had lots of work the last weeks. there was a chick, a little more bacon on the hips than i usually prefer, but ffs, she couldve sucked a golfball through a garden hose... just thought to share that in case folks wonder what i do when im not online here naggin about nexus I support these activities.
blabba Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 I have come upon a recent enlightenment that really shows a huge deal breaker to me personally on uploading mods onto skyrim nexus. I have found that Nexus moderators CAN AND WILL edit the CREDITS section of your modpage AND NOT EVEN NOTIFY YOU THAT CHANGES WERE MADE. This is an extreme breach of trust I believe on the part of nexus as it can easily be misused. Also, If I ever decided to try and rightly credit the forums/members here in MY mod page's credits section IT WILL/CAN get EDITED OUT without my notification. While their at it, they can make any other sort of terrible changes without you even noticing. I am a STRONG believer in giving credit where credit is due. I also believe having good Alpha/Beta testing feedback and users giving detailed error reports and such to be A HUGE effort to the creation and release of a mod. I have made numerous Alpha/Beta's of my mods in threads here in LL and received amazing feedback from multiple users. I've even recieved great help from Ashal and mod team here. So if I decide to CREDIT them in MY modpage on nexus. Those credits can just get removed without any warning/prior notice? Everyone has a line, and Nexus has crossed mine with this. I believe I can speak for all modders on this: THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BEING UNABLE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE!
DespairSyndrome Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon.
blabba Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon. I just did a quick search and nope, I personally cannot find any mention to (IMO) the MUCH better FNIS support threads here. Also, for those interested I actually got riled up enough about this issue to actually write a support ticket/letter to Dark0ne about this. Here's to hoping he will seriously reconsider the wording of the TOS and redact the part at least for the credits section. Here's the full letter for your perusal pleasure: 'Nexus staff reserve the right to edit details relating to your file (but not the uploaded files themselves) or remove it completely without warning or reason at their own discretion.' Hello Dark0ne, I present to you with something that I think is a MAJOR concern for potential Mod Authors and may have even affected Mod Authors without them knowing. I have recently found out that your moderators CAN AND WILL change the CREDITS section of a mod page uploaded here on the Nexus without prior warning or even a notification after the fact. I say this is a distressing issue because I was potentially going to upload a mod here, but this above fact will prevent me from ever doing so. I understand their may be reasons for this. BUT I cannot find ANY reasons as to giving moderators (Admin level is fine, I assume admins are the people who actually run and maintain this site so they should be allowed to edit any and all things uploaded here, even then I would prefer at least a notification) the free reign over a mod's CREDIT page. The credit's section is a 'holy' section in that it is space to dedicate/give thanks to those that have helped the modder/publisher to get the mod out there to the people. Now I understand that this website for whatever reasons cannot permissibly give links or mention the full nam's of other modding communities suchs Lovers.Lab, V.G.U. network and T.E.S. Renewal, ModDB etc... HOWEVER, I personally am a member of Lovers.Lab and TESRenewal and the help and support I recieved for my own mod making and such has been enormous from the wonderful communities over there (I understand their is bad blood but really, we're all grown ups and can get over that). What I'm coming to here is that if I decide to publish a mod here and write in the credits something like 'Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback' (No direct links or full name given) And then the next day or few hours later I find that section/mention gone I'd feel that almost everything that proper modding stands for has been violated with. To add salt to the wound I don't even get a notification that such changes were made? These changes are effectively not allowing me to go behind a major rule of thumb in the modding scene: Give Credit Where Credit Is Due Personally, I believe this is absolutely inexcusable and inconsiderate to the mod authors/users and everyone else in the modding community. All I ask is for a simple revision/guarantee for the highlighted part of the TOS to be changed so that ONLY the CREDITS section of a mod page will not/can not be changed (except of course by an admin level). If such a change were to be implemented I would rest easy and be able to upload mods here to the Nexus, I not only speak for myself in this matter but I am sure that even other Mod authors might re-consider and upload to the Nexus or that new talent does not instead look to other forum communities (such as I had to) but that Nexus is a place where it respects the individual and the talent of Mod Authors as well as it's user base. If the simple reform request cannot be met, then I am afraid that I will stay forever a leecher here and will actively advocate for mod authors to refuse uploading to here on the Nexus and try via petition or other means to get this pushed through. (Though being the pessimist I am, I doubt that even anything like this will change your mind) I have said what I wanted to say, and I really do appreciate your time if you read through this whole thing (It's pretty long I'm afraid to admit). Thanks, Blabba Dark0ne's response: Hello Blabba, I have no idea what specific event you're referencing when you are talking about changes being made to credit sections. Can you clarify that one please? In regards to not mentioning other modding networks you have it wrong. The rule of thumb is that we do not allow the mentioning or linking of sites that contain copyright or otherwise illegal content. Mentioning and linking to ModDB, for instance, would be absolutely fine. We do have a blanket ban on Lovers Lab, irrespective of whether they do, or did, host illegal content, simply because their openly vitriolic hatred and bile they have for the Nexus, and indeed myself and the staff here, is so pathetic I simply have no wish to perpetuate their moronic stance on Nexus bashing. Rather than stoop to their level I simply choose to ignore their existence entirely. I understand and respect if you find being unable to thank the users of Lovers Lab is reason enough not to host your mods here, but in the same vein I ask that you respect that those are our rules on the matter. I have a lot more respect for someone, such as yourself, saying you cannot host your mods here because of our rules rather than someone who hosts their mods here and then flat-out complains about the rules despite the fact they agreed to them when registering their account and submitting each file to our database! The line you've referenced in our Terms of Service is a blanket "cover all" term that enables us to edit or remove content that we do not agree with or do not want to host. I cannot and will not remove that line simply because it covers us, if not legally than at least formally, in any and all events. If you look at the terms of service for pretty much any other major service out there you'll find very similar terms are contained in their TOS (including, and probably especially, Steam's). It's a term that basically says "we reserve the right to remove content at any time for any reason". It's a pretty bog-standard term for most terms and conditions of major community-generated content hosts (other notable services with such terms include YouTube and Facebook). Moderators and Admins are almost one and the same thing, though Admins have slightly more functionality over moderators it's important to only have a few admins for security reasons (less chances of being compromised). However, moderators and admins, except myself, work under the same moderating system and ethos. Having said that, as you rightly point out, if a moderator has changed something on your file page then they should have contacted you to let you know what and why. If you can provide me with more information about the file in question, what was edited and essentially what happened in more detail then I will surely investigate this for you and, if necessary, send a formal reminder to the staff member in question letting them know of their indiscretion. None of the staff here will ever claim to be infallible and it's very likely they made a mistake. If, for example, your credits section had "Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback" in it then I think I'd be inclined to let it slide. While I have a dislike of Lovers Lab, I don't care that much about simple lines like this. I would be interested in finding out more about the situation, if there was a situation, as I cannot ascertain whether your message alludes to an event that has already occurred or whether it simply alludes to a theoretical event that you've thought up based on that line you've seen in our TOS. While not what I exactly wished for, the guarantee/promise that Dark0ne will uphold the not changing of a credits section of a modpage without at least a message to the mod uploader is good enough for me. As well as his willingness to look at a case where this did already happen is another bonus. I post this here, to just show for the others of the more 'middle ground' route about feelings of dislike against the nexus is that they are at least reasonable with if you ask politely enough. Though the sad part is, that you might even have to submit a ticket like mines to rightfully protect your credits section is a little saddening.
mkprovince Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon. I just did a quick search and nope, I personally cannot find any mention to (IMO) the MUCH better FNIS support threads here. Also, for those interested I actually got riled up enough about this issue to actually write a support ticket/letter to Dark0ne about this. Here's to hoping he will seriously reconsider the wording of the TOS and redact the part at least for the credits section. Here's the full letter for your perusal pleasure: 'Nexus staff reserve the right to edit details relating to your file (but not the uploaded files themselves) or remove it completely without warning or reason at their own discretion.' Hello Dark0ne, I present to you with something that I think is a MAJOR concern for potential Mod Authors and may have even affected Mod Authors without them knowing. I have recently found out that your moderators CAN AND WILL change the CREDITS section of a mod page uploaded here on the Nexus without prior warning or even a notification after the fact.I say this is a distressing issue because I was potentially going to upload a mod here, but this above fact will prevent me from ever doing so. I understand their may be reasons for this. BUT I cannot find ANY reasons as to giving moderators (Admin level is fine, I assume admins are the people who actually run and maintain this site so they should be allowed to edit any and all things uploaded here, even then I would prefer at least a notification) the free reign over a mod's CREDIT page. The credit's section is a 'holy' section in that it is space to dedicate/give thanks to those that have helped the modder/publisher to get the mod out there to the people. Now I understand that this website for whatever reasons cannot permissibly give links or mention the full nam's of other modding communities suchs Lovers.Lab, V.G.U. network and T.E.S. Renewal, ModDB etc... HOWEVER, I personally am a member of Lovers.Lab and TESRenewal and the help and support I recieved for my own mod making and such has been enormous from the wonderful communities over there (I understand their is bad blood but really, we're all grown ups and can get over that). What I'm coming to here is that if I decide to publish a mod here and write in the credits something like 'Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback' (No direct links or full name given)And then the next day or few hours later I find that section/mention gone I'd feel that almost everything that proper modding stands for has been violated with.To add salt to the wound I don't even get a notification that such changes were made?These changes are effectively not allowing me to go behind a major rule of thumb in the modding scene: Give Credit Where Credit Is Due Personally, I believe this is absolutely inexcusable and inconsiderate to the mod authors/users and everyone else in the modding community. All I ask is for a simple revision/guarantee for the highlighted part of the TOS to be changed so that ONLY the CREDITS section of a mod page will not/can not be changed (except of course by an admin level).If such a change were to be implemented I would rest easy and be able to upload mods here to the Nexus, I not only speak for myself in this matter but I am sure that even other Mod authors might re-consider and upload to the Nexus or that new talent does not instead look to other forum communities (such as I had to) but that Nexus is a place where it respects the individual and the talent of Mod Authors as well as it's user base. If the simple reform request cannot be met, then I am afraid that I will stay forever a leecher here and will actively advocate for mod authors to refuse uploading to here on the Nexus and try via petition or other means to get this pushed through. (Though being the pessimist I am, I doubt that even anything like this will change your mind) I have said what I wanted to say, and I really do appreciate your time if you read through this whole thing (It's pretty long I'm afraid to admit). Thanks,Blabba Wow... now I'm itching to see how he responds.
Guest GuyWhoAbruptlyDisappeared Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon. I just did a quick search and nope, I personally cannot find any mention to (IMO) the MUCH better FNIS support threads here. Also, for those interested I actually got riled up enough about this issue to actually write a support ticket/letter to Dark0ne about this. Here's to hoping he will seriously reconsider the wording of the TOS and redact the part at least for the credits section. Here's the full letter for your perusal pleasure: 'Nexus staff reserve the right to edit details relating to your file (but not the uploaded files themselves) or remove it completely without warning or reason at their own discretion.' Hello Dark0ne, I present to you with something that I think is a MAJOR concern for potential Mod Authors and may have even affected Mod Authors without them knowing. I have recently found out that your moderators CAN AND WILL change the CREDITS section of a mod page uploaded here on the Nexus without prior warning or even a notification after the fact. I say this is a distressing issue because I was potentially going to upload a mod here, but this above fact will prevent me from ever doing so. I understand their may be reasons for this. BUT I cannot find ANY reasons as to giving moderators (Admin level is fine, I assume admins are the people who actually run and maintain this site so they should be allowed to edit any and all things uploaded here, even then I would prefer at least a notification) the free reign over a mod's CREDIT page. The credit's section is a 'holy' section in that it is space to dedicate/give thanks to those that have helped the modder/publisher to get the mod out there to the people. Now I understand that this website for whatever reasons cannot permissibly give links or mention the full nam's of other modding communities suchs Lovers.Lab, V.G.U. network and T.E.S. Renewal, ModDB etc... HOWEVER, I personally am a member of Lovers.Lab and TESRenewal and the help and support I recieved for my own mod making and such has been enormous from the wonderful communities over there (I understand their is bad blood but really, we're all grown ups and can get over that). What I'm coming to here is that if I decide to publish a mod here and write in the credits something like 'Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback' (No direct links or full name given) And then the next day or few hours later I find that section/mention gone I'd feel that almost everything that proper modding stands for has been violated with. To add salt to the wound I don't even get a notification that such changes were made? These changes are effectively not allowing me to go behind a major rule of thumb in the modding scene: Give Credit Where Credit Is Due Personally, I believe this is absolutely inexcusable and inconsiderate to the mod authors/users and everyone else in the modding community. All I ask is for a simple revision/guarantee for the highlighted part of the TOS to be changed so that ONLY the CREDITS section of a mod page will not/can not be changed (except of course by an admin level). If such a change were to be implemented I would rest easy and be able to upload mods here to the Nexus, I not only speak for myself in this matter but I am sure that even other Mod authors might re-consider and upload to the Nexus or that new talent does not instead look to other forum communities (such as I had to) but that Nexus is a place where it respects the individual and the talent of Mod Authors as well as it's user base. If the simple reform request cannot be met, then I am afraid that I will stay forever a leecher here and will actively advocate for mod authors to refuse uploading to here on the Nexus and try via petition or other means to get this pushed through. (Though being the pessimist I am, I doubt that even anything like this will change your mind) I have said what I wanted to say, and I really do appreciate your time if you read through this whole thing (It's pretty long I'm afraid to admit). Thanks, Blabba That's actually well written enough that it just might work.
teitogun Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Holy shit. This thread reminds me of that Skyrim book about a mad king who kills his citizens, then kills all his followers until locking himself up in a room with no windows and doors. I believe it was Myths of Sheogorath or something.
limbo Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon. this has been available for a few days now... Whore sisters look to the list of required mods.... /shrug
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't the FNIS page still displaying stuff related to this place as samples of how it can be used? It's not even like LL is going to become a major competitor to them anytime soon. this has been available for a few days now... Whore sisters look to the list of required mods.... /shrug Hahaha! Normally I'd say "He's so fuckin' doomed!", but it's been there for a bit, so all those links to LL must be: ~Tolerated 'cause he's pals with staff ~Overlooked (doubtful) ~A ban-in-progress (likely) Sup with that mod anyway? Don't install, just paste the save??.......Anyway... Some funny shit! AwfulArchdemon
Kendo 2 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Nexus is too big for the staff to catch it. Someone will have to report it or (the more likely scenario) one of the staff will see us laughing about it here and remove it.
D_ManXX2 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 What happened to the mod author of GOS Gangs of skyrim ?? The page is no longer there and deleted from nexus database has this user been banned ??
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Nexus is too big for the staff to catch it. Someone will have to report it or (the more likely scenario) one of the staff will see us laughing about it here and remove it. You have to wonder how often they log on to LL. AwfulArchdemon's disguise (different pic) has been compromised ! HEY! OVER HERE! @Nexus: If you're reading this, I'll go ahead and post a message to you. Not everyone will like it. Some are certain to disagree, but I understand how you feel. Your opinions are not lost on me. That said... I joined ages ago, and posted a fair amount. I have gotten some excellent responses from members of (Skyrim) Nexus [*problem 1]. I have also posted help of my own. Staff has responded quickly, and professionally. My experience there is a good one, though a bit lonely. I would avoid the chat room, as it would start to feel too comfortable to say "whatever I want". When people feel at home they tell jokes. That's where people immediately get offended. Almost all jokes are funny because they offend someone. "The best comedy is tragedy". Members get banned right away; as soon as someone takes offense to a reply. I suggest an 'adult' chat, where +18 (agree to rules...etc) members can say anything they want, as long as is it doesn't directly attack another member [*problem 2]. Just a chat room for certified +18 members, where you won't get banned unless you are threatening or purposefully offending or insulting another member. Also, about the "no links" policy...[*problem 3]. * I have gotten much faster responses on LoversLab.com because people can speak without fear of offending someone and being banned Your chat room is for 'all members'. You should expect problems, since Bethesda games (most popular among all ages right now) are M for Mature [17+]. Create a separate chat room for people who just want to "let it all hang out". Where we can say FTW, without censorship, take a deep breath, and feel welcomed Links are our friend. If it's a link to adult content, it should be posted on an adult thread, in the adult section. If it's not, use your 'warning points' and a PM to warn someone when they've broken rules in your TOS. If members can not be reasoned with, and simply disobey site rules, then ban them from the site, as they are clearly not willing to abide by the site's rules and regulations AwfulArchdemon
blabba Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 I just did a quick search and nope, I personally cannot find any mention to (IMO) the MUCH better FNIS support threads here. Also, for those interested I actually got riled up enough about this issue to actually write a support ticket/letter to Dark0ne about this. Here's to hoping he will seriously reconsider the wording of the TOS and redact the part at least for the credits section. Here's the full letter for your perusal pleasure: 'Nexus staff reserve the right to edit details relating to your file (but not the uploaded files themselves) or remove it completely without warning or reason at their own discretion.' Hello Dark0ne, I present to you with something that I think is a MAJOR concern for potential Mod Authors and may have even affected Mod Authors without them knowing. I have recently found out that your moderators CAN AND WILL change the CREDITS section of a mod page uploaded here on the Nexus without prior warning or even a notification after the fact. I say this is a distressing issue because I was potentially going to upload a mod here, but this above fact will prevent me from ever doing so. I understand their may be reasons for this. BUT I cannot find ANY reasons as to giving moderators (Admin level is fine, I assume admins are the people who actually run and maintain this site so they should be allowed to edit any and all things uploaded here, even then I would prefer at least a notification) the free reign over a mod's CREDIT page. The credit's section is a 'holy' section in that it is space to dedicate/give thanks to those that have helped the modder/publisher to get the mod out there to the people. Now I understand that this website for whatever reasons cannot permissibly give links or mention the full nam's of other modding communities suchs Lovers.Lab, V.G.U. network and T.E.S. Renewal, ModDB etc... HOWEVER, I personally am a member of Lovers.Lab and TESRenewal and the help and support I recieved for my own mod making and such has been enormous from the wonderful communities over there (I understand their is bad blood but really, we're all grown ups and can get over that). What I'm coming to here is that if I decide to publish a mod here and write in the credits something like 'Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback' (No direct links or full name given) And then the next day or few hours later I find that section/mention gone I'd feel that almost everything that proper modding stands for has been violated with. To add salt to the wound I don't even get a notification that such changes were made? These changes are effectively not allowing me to go behind a major rule of thumb in the modding scene: Give Credit Where Credit Is Due Personally, I believe this is absolutely inexcusable and inconsiderate to the mod authors/users and everyone else in the modding community. All I ask is for a simple revision/guarantee for the highlighted part of the TOS to be changed so that ONLY the CREDITS section of a mod page will not/can not be changed (except of course by an admin level). If such a change were to be implemented I would rest easy and be able to upload mods here to the Nexus, I not only speak for myself in this matter but I am sure that even other Mod authors might re-consider and upload to the Nexus or that new talent does not instead look to other forum communities (such as I had to) but that Nexus is a place where it respects the individual and the talent of Mod Authors as well as it's user base. If the simple reform request cannot be met, then I am afraid that I will stay forever a leecher here and will actively advocate for mod authors to refuse uploading to here on the Nexus and try via petition or other means to get this pushed through. (Though being the pessimist I am, I doubt that even anything like this will change your mind) I have said what I wanted to say, and I really do appreciate your time if you read through this whole thing (It's pretty long I'm afraid to admit). Thanks, Blabba Dark0ne's response: Hello Blabba, I have no idea what specific event you're referencing when you are talking about changes being made to credit sections. Can you clarify that one please? In regards to not mentioning other modding networks you have it wrong. The rule of thumb is that we do not allow the mentioning or linking of sites that contain copyright or otherwise illegal content. Mentioning and linking to ModDB, for instance, would be absolutely fine. We do have a blanket ban on Lovers Lab, irrespective of whether they do, or did, host illegal content, simply because their openly vitriolic hatred and bile they have for the Nexus, and indeed myself and the staff here, is so pathetic I simply have no wish to perpetuate their moronic stance on Nexus bashing. Rather than stoop to their level I simply choose to ignore their existence entirely. I understand and respect if you find being unable to thank the users of Lovers Lab is reason enough not to host your mods here, but in the same vein I ask that you respect that those are our rules on the matter. I have a lot more respect for someone, such as yourself, saying you cannot host your mods here because of our rules rather than someone who hosts their mods here and then flat-out complains about the rules despite the fact they agreed to them when registering their account and submitting each file to our database! The line you've referenced in our Terms of Service is a blanket "cover all" term that enables us to edit or remove content that we do not agree with or do not want to host. I cannot and will not remove that line simply because it covers us, if not legally than at least formally, in any and all events. If you look at the terms of service for pretty much any other major service out there you'll find very similar terms are contained in their TOS (including, and probably especially, Steam's). It's a term that basically says "we reserve the right to remove content at any time for any reason". It's a pretty bog-standard term for most terms and conditions of major community-generated content hosts (other notable services with such terms include YouTube and Facebook). Moderators and Admins are almost one and the same thing, though Admins have slightly more functionality over moderators it's important to only have a few admins for security reasons (less chances of being compromised). However, moderators and admins, except myself, work under the same moderating system and ethos. Having said that, as you rightly point out, if a moderator has changed something on your file page then they should have contacted you to let you know what and why. If you can provide me with more information about the file in question, what was edited and essentially what happened in more detail then I will surely investigate this for you and, if necessary, send a formal reminder to the staff member in question letting them know of their indiscretion. None of the staff here will ever claim to be infallible and it's very likely they made a mistake. If, for example, your credits section had "Thanks to the LL/TESR/VGU/MDB community for beta testing and feedback" in it then I think I'd be inclined to let it slide. While I have a dislike of Lovers Lab, I don't care that much about simple lines like this. I would be interested in finding out more about the situation, if there was a situation, as I cannot ascertain whether your message alludes to an event that has already occurred or whether it simply alludes to a theoretical event that you've thought up based on that line you've seen in our TOS. While not what I exactly wished for, the guarantee/promise that Dark0ne will uphold the not changing of a credits section of a modpage without at least a message to the mod uploader is good enough for me. As well as his willingness to look at a case where this did already happen is another bonus. I post this here, to just show for the others of the more 'middle ground' route about feelings of dislike against the nexus is that they are at least reasonable with if you ask politely enough. Though the sad part is, that you might even have to submit a ticket like mines to rightfully protect your credits section is a little saddening. Sorry if this is sort of a thread bump/advertisement. Thought I'd just post that I added in Dark0ne's response to my 'complaint' so for those of you interested you may read and interpret as you will. I already added in my thoughts on the response their.
Kendo 2 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 @blabba “We do have a blanket ban on Lovers Lab, irrespective of whether they do, or did, host illegal content,...” That’s a lie. I guess he thinks you’re too stupid to know that LL is banned at Nexus due to the type of sexual content featured in mods here. “...if a moderator has changed something on your file page then they should have contacted you to let you know what and why. If you can provide me with more information about the file in question, what was edited and essentially what happened in more detail then I will surely investigate this for you and, if necessary, send a formal reminder to the staff member in question letting them know of their indiscretion...” He admits he doesn’t know what his staff is doing. He admits they do not communicate. One of his staff edited a file and DID NOT TELL HIM. “None of the staff here will ever claim to be infallible...” And that’s just fucking funny.
Nerdy Skyrim Fan Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Hello, I was also banned from the nexus and I would like to get back in. Has anyone here succesfully bypassed a ban? If so, how? The funniest thing is, I followed all of the rules and everything and still got banned. About 6 months into my account I was in the chat and The Vampire Dante noticed that I had two accounts. I must've accidentily made the second one, as I had no knowledge of it. Regardless, TVD banned me on the spot without letting me explain myself and that was that. I properly explained myself in the ban appeal but never got a response of any kind. Then, I personally contacted Dark0ne and he never responded either. Thanks for the silent treatment nexus. The greatest thing is that if TVD would've even looked at the second account, he would've noticed that it hadn't been active since the day it was made (because I had no clue it was even there).
gvman3670 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Hello, I was also banned from the nexus and I would like to get back in. Has anyone here succesfully bypassed a ban? If so, how? The funniest thing is, I followed all of the rules and everything and still got banned. About 6 months into my account I was in the chat and The Vampire Dante noticed that I had two accounts. I must've accidentily made the second one, as I had no knowledge of it. Regardless, TVD banned me on the spot without letting me explain myself and that was that. I properly explained myself in the ban appeal but never got a response of any kind. Then, I personally contacted Dark0ne and he never responded either. Thanks for the silent treatment nexus. The greatest thing is that if TVD would've even looked at the second account, he would've noticed that it hadn't been active since the day it was made (because I had no clue it was even there). Just use a different screen name here and there. No biggie. Don't post in the forums since help here is 1000X easier (and quicker) to come by. This community is very helpful and friendly. Don't go in the Nexus chat since it's more a trap than anything else. And don't upload your creations to Nexus. Instead, you can upload them here and several other sites if you want them seen. I was banned for talking about game saves between XBox and PC, and they are interchangeable by merely changing the extension, and that was all it took. And it's nice to know if you want to fix a broken game save from your XBox Skyrim game. I was never mean or disrespectful to anyone at all. I've since started two other accounts and they're like ghosts. No forums, no chats and adblockers running full steam. If you don't make waves they probably won't even notice you there.
LunaOP Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Banned from nexus? Enjoy your "freedom of speech".
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