Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Elsidia]

14 minutes ago, Marajade said:

I put on chastity gear but like I said above, NPC interactions were still getting my character raped which reset the timer...

You can wait in home this time if no rush on speed. Press wait button select max hours and do it while 20 days gone.

 

Or you can turn off all rape outcomes in MCM.

Or to stop do it legally you need chastity set on you and no one keys form belts in pockets. Chastity bra and chastity belt - then NPC can't rape you. i recommend timed belt what can be buy from dollmaker and any bra. Then you are defended from rapers because for belt no keys but for bra is big chance that NPC have no keys. Or you can live in place where no rapers. Also own home is safe from rapers and in home arousal goes on very slow.

UPD: Note: If you put on bra with manipulated keys, rapers can take it off.

UPD2: if you set in MCM that full anti rape set need ballgag - then ballgag you need too without keys put on.

 

Edited October 7, 2021 by Elsidia

[Marajade]

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

You can wait in home this time if no rush on speed. Press wait button select max hours and do it while 20 days gone.

 

Or you can turn off all rape outcomes in MCM.

Or to stop do it legally you need chastity set on you and no one keys form belts in pockets. Chastity bra and chastity belt - then NPC can't rape you. i recommend timed belt what can be buy from dollmaker and any bra. Then you are defended from rapers because for belt no keys but for bra is big chance that NPC have no keys. Or you can live in place where no rapers. Also own home is safe from rapers and in home arousal goes on very slow.

UPD: Note: If you put on bra with manipulated keys, rapers can take it off.

UPD2: if you set in MCM that full anti rape set need ballgag - then ballgag you need too without keys put on.

 

I did all of this but the rape scenes still play, they just clip through the chastity belts. This was rape triggered by 'NPC action'

[Elsidia]

33 minutes ago, Marajade said:

I did all of this but the rape scenes still play, they just clip through the chastity belts. This was rape triggered by 'NPC action'

Maybe you have another rape mod as DCL - only DCL protect from rape with belts.

[Marajade]

22 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Maybe you have another rape mod as DCL - only DCL protect from rape with belts.

Nope, I don't have any other rape mods.

[Marajade]

Ok, the slut collar seems to be bugged for me. I waited 8 in game days and the maximum time set for the collar is only 4 days in my menu. It didn't come off on its own and there is no option to remove it.

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, Marajade said:

I waited 8 in game days and the maximum time set for the collar is only 4 days in my menu. It didn't come off on its own and there is no option to remove it.

After wait main hero masturbate? It reset a timer. need do it chastity belt to avoid it.

UPD: Not sleep, but wait - sleep timer is reset because to avoid cheating.

UPD2:

Ok there is system:

1) Enter in safe house

2) Put on chastity belt

3) prepare many frigid wash

4) Wait max hours - not sleep

5) After this wait more than 30 sec. in real time. It will trigger dcur timed script what check condition of collar. It can be seen by debug messages in left corner. If you don't want 30 sec. then even is collar is ready to put off, it's not goes off.

6) if collar not gone off, wait next portion of time

 

Also you can check quest variables in console:

sqv dcur_slavecollarquest

::sexlessdaysneeded_var - days what you need spend in collar

::sexlessdays_var - days spend without sex

::lastcheckpoint_var - last checkpoint updated 9there will contain Skyrim day value in real. Like 234.256210

 

This value must change (increase). if you after wait not wait 30 sec, this value not change. Also not change value ::sexlessdays_var - there must be 1 after wait 24 hours.

When this value is bigger as ::sexlessdaysneeded_var - slut collar goes off.

if you masturbate of have sex this value resets to zero

 

UPD3: after wait and when triggers a timer script you need wait a little more to update a values - then in console will be new. Then you can wait next 24 hours portion.

UPD4: If this not help then i will made short Skyrim video with example of it. Fell free to ask.

UPD5: My test show, if you are in place, where not other people and arousal is low - no need chastity belt. belt increases a arousal what not recommend.  Then main check if all good is message in left corner My desires is satisfied - that means arousal is low and you not need a belt. Also it's says that 30 sec. DCL timer is triggered and after few seconds you can check is values is change and wait next day.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Elsidia

[YojimboRatchet]

10 hours ago, Elsidia said:

no need chastity belt. belt increases a arousal what not recommend.

 

Could also set the belt arousal settings in the MCM to "zero" for both values, which would help if the belt is used.

[DeWired]

Small "bug" report. Not a bug per se, but an inconvinience, born from unexpected mod interaction. Namely, "Working girl" collar doesn't check if it is equipped on player or on NPC. When using Sexlab Clone VR patch to make a clone NPC take place in animations instead of player, it causes "Working girl" quest to restart on every animation start. Also, now that I think about it, it probably can happen with many other custom restraints too... Guess I would need to reassemble my compiler environment after all...

 

EDIT. Well, it probably applies to Whore Collar effect, Tavern Whore (Working girl collar effect) and Rubber Doll attraction. I added a condition to those effects in xEdit to only work on Player, would need to test if it helped... As for other custom restraints, I guess all of them would require recompilation, I've looked at Cursed set and Dollmaker's Billboard Catsuit at least, it seems no checks were made.

Edited October 8, 2021 by DeWired
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[Nathala]

I've go an issue where standard item events apply items I have turned off (chance slider set to 0) in the devices tab. For example, I have chastity belts and bras turned off as applicable devices during a standard item event and the maximum amount of items being 3 but when a standard item event occurs my character was equipped with 7 devices, including a chastity bra and belt. Just wondering how to fix it!

[CommunistNinja]

On 7/1/2020 at 7:51 PM, Tohm29 said:

I have a weird bug going on that I'm pretty sure I narrowed it down this mod. I don't have access to my computer right now,  so I can't post a load order but I can later if needed. so here goes:

 

I'm going through MCM activating mods after a new game. No problem. Then I come to Devious Loot and start editing settings. Itll occasionally freeze and not let me edit a setting (rape parameters, etc). Then I wil back out if Devious Loot to retry editing settings but I click on it and NO settings show up. So I move on to other mods and it won't let me edit those settings either. Only cure is to start a new game. 

 

Start a new game and I can go to MCM and setup every mod and leave Devious Loot for last. Works fine until I click on its MCM and then the same bug will happen. 

 

Also I noted the mechanics wont work either. Mainly solicitation. I'll click the option and the NPC will only say the first line of dialogue and nothing else. 

 

The next thing I'll try is to reinstall the mod, but I wanted to quickly ask and see if anyone else has had experience with this problem? Thanks for any input

Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm having the same issue. When setting up a new game, I do cursed loot's mcm last for this same reason. Once I get all the other MCMs set up, I'll go into cursed loot's MCM to set it up, but once I get done with it, the CL MCM is forever dead. There is no way to open it. It just freezes up whenever trying to open it at any later point in the game. I'm wondering if it would help to just pack the entire mod (except animation) into BSA.

[Marajade]

I'm having an issue where the Golden Chastity Bra is invisible when equipped on my character and can be equipped/unequipped at will with no locking. No idea what's going on with this device, all the others seem to be working fine. Anyone run into this issue? It basically doesn't exist, all it does is make nipple piercings disappear when equipped.

 

If I drop the item it shows up properly on the ground, so I know the model is in the game. Any tips?

Edit: Most other devices are working for me, but specifically this one is not... Is there a way to reset it? It used to work just fine.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Marajade

[Marajade]

Also having an issue with boots: Slave boots aren't giving me a movement speed penalty. They used to, but I'm not sure what changed. Does anyone know how to test this? I run at full speed in devices such as "White Leather Pony Boots" and other boots. These are supposed to slow you down, right?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Marajade said:

I'm having an issue where the Golden Chastity Bra is invisible when equipped on my character and can be equipped/unequipped at will with no locking. No idea what's going on with this device, all the others seem to be working fine. Anyone run into this issue? It basically doesn't exist, all it does is make nipple piercings disappear when equipped.

 

If I drop the item it shows up properly on the ground, so I know the model is in the game. Any tips?

 

Did you console it in or use additem menu?

 

Go through the troubleshooting post and verify your bodyslide is configured right (invisible devices) and you don't have any of the known problem mods. All dropping it tells you is that the ground model is in the game, not the worn model. Two different things.

 

If you have any patches overwriting DD or DCL, try without them. Old patches WILL break things.

 

[zarantha]

32 minutes ago, Marajade said:

Also having an issue with boots: Slave boots aren't giving me a movement speed penalty. They used to, but I'm not sure what changed. Does anyone know how to test this? I run at full speed in devices such as "White Leather Pony Boots" and other boots. These are supposed to slow you down, right?

 

Did you check boot slowdown in the DD MCM?

How are you adding devices?

 

If you're manually consoling them in or adding them with additem menu from DDa, that won't work. Use the items from DDx as the scripts will attach properly to those items. Manually adding items from DDa just gets the item with no scripts attached, which means they don't lock, they don't have effects applied and they don't put you into an animation when appropriate.

 

Edit: Another way to break the speed penalty is if you've got a mod that adjust carry weight. try checking what your current/max carry weight is. slowdowns are usually done by adding encumbrance so you're way over your max allowed weight.

Edited October 10, 2021 by zarantha

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, CommunistNinja said:

Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm having the same issue. When setting up a new game, I do cursed loot's mcm last for this same reason. Once I get all the other MCMs set up, I'll go into cursed loot's MCM to set it up, but once I get done with it, the CL MCM is forever dead. There is no way to open it. It just freezes up whenever trying to open it at any later point in the game. I'm wondering if it would help to just pack the entire mod (except animation) into BSA.

 

This is a skyui issue with heavy load orders or when you have a lot of MCMs. Do one of 3 things:

1. Kimy's method:
 

Quote

Kimy DCL MCM initialization: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3205086
1. Start a new game.
2. Wait 30 secs, or not at all. It's really just telling Skyrim that you MEAN it. Or so.
3. Quit to menu.
4. Start another new game.
5. Enjoy.

 

2. Load first.
Load DD and DCL and their requirements first, NO other mods. Set everything up, then add the rest of your mods.

 

3. Load last.

Don't enable the DCL mod (the entire mod must be disabled, not just the esp) until you have set up everything else. After that, enable DCL and set it up normally. You may need to use Kimy's method as well if you go this route, but at least your character is set up as well as everything else as you exit and reload to try to get the MCM to load.

[Marajade]

43 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Did you console it in or use additem menu?

 

Go through the troubleshooting post and verify your bodyslide is configured right (invisible devices) and you don't have any of the known problem mods. All dropping it tells you is that the ground model is in the game, not the worn model. Two different things.

 

If you have any patches overwriting DD or DCL, try without them. Old patches WILL break things.

 

 

Thanks for this! I don't think it's just that it's invisible, though. When I select to equip it from the inventory it doesn't give me the same "popup" text window that devices usually do, asking if you want to put it on or leave it be. It just lists itself as 'equipped', and can be freely equipped/unequipped at will with no consequences.

 

Encumbrance is affected when it's equipped vs in inventory, though. Does that shed any light on this?

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, Marajade said:

I don't think it's just that it's invisible, though.

Do you have no enchantment restrictions mod? If yes then you don't read troubleshooting page what zarantha recommend.  Read it and configure this mod correctly or remove it. It's incompatible with DD.

 

[Marajade]

I think I figured out why my boots aren't slowing me down anymore. I have the 'Experienced Slave' tag now, which says I've spent so long wearing restraints that they weigh nothing when equipped. Does anyone know how to reset that or disable it? I think that's what it causing me to move normally when in restrictive boots.

 

Maybe that's even intended, and my character has learned how to walk normally in those lol.

[Marajade]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Do you have no enchantment restrictions mod? If yes then you don't read troubleshooting page what zarantha recommend.  Read it and configure this mod correctly or remove it. It's incompatible with DD.

 

 

No I don't have that active. I do currently have the 'Bound Queen' quest active and have several of the items in my inventory, including the chastity bra from that quest. Since those items are visually the same as the gold chastity bra could that be causing a conflict from wearing them? 

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, Marajade said:

and have several of the items in my inventory, including the chastity bra from that quest.

You can test:

Can you wear any other bra?

Can you wear Queen's quest bra?

When you equip golden bra, it's shows popup menu?

Can you sent golden bra console id or full name of this item to check it?

[Marajade]

3 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

You can test:

Can you wear any other bra?

Can you wear Queen's quest bra?

When you equip golden bra, it's shows popup menu?

Can you sent golden bra console id or full name of this item to check it?

 

I can wear other bras. I cannot wear the Queen's quest bra, the game pops up a dialogue box saying that your character won't put it on because it's a bad idea.

[Elsidia]

38 minutes ago, Marajade said:

that your character won't put it on because it's a bad idea.

Oh my god.... That's right - you can't wear a queen's bra because it's definitely bad idea.

See quest spoiler:

Spoiler

This is quest item, because you can't wear it.

When you collect all queen's items those items equip on you automatically and quest continues.

After quest end when you find a keys you can wear this bra as normal bra because you have a keys.

UPD: ok i check the game before this quest - you can wear a bra manually, but if in your game says, that is bad idea: you have some mod what blocks equip it or this bra isn't from DCL.

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

38 minutes ago, Marajade said:

I cannot wear the Queen's quest bra,

This is queen bra: dcur_royalchastity_Bra "Queen Sarah's Chastity Bra" [ARMO:10084289]

UPD: here:

Spoiler

UPD: Lead to my previous post - in DCL 9.0 it's block wear a queen sarah bra if you not complete a quest.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Elsidia

[Marajade]

7 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This is queen bra: dcur_royalchastity_Bra "Queen Sarah's Chastity Bra" [ARMO:10084289]

If you have another name in "" or id (unless first two letters) - this isn't queens bra from DCL.

 

Ok, I checked in the console. The item says "Queen Sarah's Chastity Bra" and when you click on it in the console it's ID is "ff0012c1".

[Elsidia]

6 minutes ago, Marajade said:

Ok, I checked in the console. The item says "Queen Sarah's Chastity Bra" and when you click on it in the console it's ID is "ff0012c1".

This id definitely not from DD or DCL

Check this post to see how bra is blocked to wear while you not complete a quest -

This bra can't wear while you complete this quest.

This is last word. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Elsidia