Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Marajade]

4 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This id definitely not from DD or DCL

Check this post to see how bra is blocked to wear while you not complete a quest -

This bra can't wear while you complete this quest.

This is last word. 

 

Thanks! I'll complete the quest before trying anything else then.

 

One other question: Is there a way to reset your 'experience' wearing restraints? My character has reached 'experienced slave' and I think that's making restraints weigh nothing which means boots don't slow down my character.

[Elsidia]

57 minutes ago, Marajade said:

One other question: Is there a way to reset your 'experience' wearing restraints? My character has reached 'experienced slave' and I think that's making restraints weigh nothing which means boots don't slow down my character.

Sorry this isn't from DCL, but from another mod, what i not use.

[Marajade]

50 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Sorry this isn't from DCL, but from another mod, what i not use.

Oh, is it? Thanks for letting me know... I wonder which mod it is from, I thought it was from DCL.

[Elsidia]

29 minutes ago, Marajade said:

Oh, is it? Thanks for letting me know... I wonder which mod it is from, I thought it was from DCL.

No i see this mod earlier but can't remember this name - something like devious devices training. It's check equipped DD keywords and train player if it's locked into devices. Also i remember i see if you wear a corset long time it's deform body shape.

Probably this mod:

 

[Marajade]

5 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

No i see this mod earlier but can't remember this name - something like devious devices training. It's check equipped DD keywords and train player if it's locked into devices. Also i remember i see if you wear a corset long time it's deform body shape.

Probably this mod:

 

 

I don't have that mod installed. I have Devious Lore installed, but that doesn't say anything about training either... Can't think of what else it could be.

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, Marajade said:

My character has reached 'experienced slave'

How you find that you are 'experienced slave'?

and what  modlist you have?

[YojimboRatchet]

46 minutes ago, Marajade said:

 

I don't have that mod installed. I have Devious Lore installed, but that doesn't say anything about training either... Can't think of what else it could be.

 

6 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

How you find that you are 'experienced slave'?

and what  modlist you have?

 

SD+ ?

 

Only mod I can think of that would do this. Either that or DDEquip, but I've never seen that message in DDe. Maybe also Slaverun ?

[ventus69]

I'm having an issue with the hopping animation, and I think it's related to 360 Walk and Run Plus. Basically I can sometimes move a character when they're bound in a way that forces the hop for a bit, but eventually, generally after going through a door or somesuch, I will only be able to turn in circles and no longer do the hopping animation. The closest workaround I've found is to teleport the character around, but, understandably, that is frustrating. Am I just SoL? Or is there a better workaround? Maybe it would be less fun, but is there a way to disable the hopping and just make it a normal walk animation? Lately if a character is forced to hop I either console the item off or load a previous save.

[zarantha]

26 minutes ago, ventus69 said:

I'm having an issue with the hopping animation, and I think it's related to 360 Walk and Run Plus. Basically I can sometimes move a character when they're bound in a way that forces the hop for a bit, but eventually, generally after going through a door or somesuch, I will only be able to turn in circles and no longer do the hopping animation. The closest workaround I've found is to teleport the character around, but, understandably, that is frustrating. Am I just SoL? Or is there a better workaround? Maybe it would be less fun, but is there a way to disable the hopping and just make it a normal walk animation? Lately if a character is forced to hop I either console the item off or load a previous save.

 

Don't use nemesis, or yeah, you're SOL.

[Kuand]

Hey, hope this is ok to ask here. I've been really enjoying Alternate Perspective recently and was wondering if there was any way I could go through the Bound in Skyrim questline without going through MQ101 and the escape from Helgen (non dragonborn playthrough)? I assume it would involve some edits to the associated scripts? I'm only beginning to touch scripting but am comfortable editing in and navigating CK, and XEdit so I can go through and do any necessary changes myself. 
Since Bound in Skyrim begins with dcur_ChloeQuest (if not using the LAL addon) which triggers in Helen keep after MQ101 starts, I've been looking through the associated psc files. However, I cannot for the life of me figure what I need to change to trigger the quest to start. Scarab's patches for CC and TUDM include "Quest Property MQ101  Auto", is something like this needed or am I missing the obvious? 

[Marajade]

23 hours ago, Elsidia said:

How you find that you are 'experienced slave'?

and what  modlist you have?

 

I've been playing around with different mods and removing some to try and figure out which it is. I think it's from 'Devious Devices'. 'Experienced Slave' shows up under magical effects with all of your other effects.

[Elsidia]

54 minutes ago, Marajade said:

Experienced Slave'

No no and no
I check in xedit dda, ddi, dde, ddx, ddc, dcl and no one have effect experienced slave

Also in console help "experienced slave" returns zero.
You can do this command in console and first two letter will be mod load hex order. If you check your mod load order in xedit or loot you will find what mod added this effect.

And what source is for this effect?

Spoiler

UPD: mod hex load order in loot:

Spoiler

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Elsidia

[Rabo]

I think I found a small bug with the Solicitation feature: in particular the "Innkeeper's share" setting. No money was actually removed from the inventory despite setting the slider to various values. Only at 100% would the innkeeper's share be removed. Looking through the source files, I wonder, could the problem be in dcur_scquest_payment.psc where the value to be deducted is calculated as (reward * (dcumenu.solicitationinnkeepershare / 100)). I have no scripting experience but if skyrim scripting uses integer division this value would always come out as 0 (unless dcumenu.solicitationinnkeepershare is 100).

[CommunistNinja]

On 10/10/2021 at 1:00 AM, zarantha said:

 

This is a skyui issue with heavy load orders or when you have a lot of MCMs. Do one of 3 things:

1. Kimy's method:
 

 

2. Load first.
Load DD and DCL and their requirements first, NO other mods. Set everything up, then add the rest of your mods.

 

3. Load last.

Don't enable the DCL mod (the entire mod must be disabled, not just the esp) until you have set up everything else. After that, enable DCL and set it up normally. You may need to use Kimy's method as well if you go this route, but at least your character is set up as well as everything else as you exit and reload to try to get the MCM to load.

Yeah, I don't think this is a DCL issue. It probably is a skyui issue. 

So, I did option 1--Kimy's method. I started a whole new save. I'm running 1400+ plugins and it takes me a little over an hour to get through all the MCM settings--DCL and SL Survival taking the longest to set-up...because there is a fortune of tweaks to be made. Everything worked fine until I got to the last one--XPMS. I literally spent an hour setting up a new game, get to the very last MCM menu for adjustments, and it's frozen. LOL

So, I remove xpms, load the save, make a new one, run re-saver...re-install xpms...it's still frozen. I roll back to an earlier save made in the alt-start area (one before the xpms mcm froze). It was a save made prior to setting up SL Survival. Initially, I set up SL Survival by importing the settings. This time, I set it up without importing the settings and now everything is working fine. So long as I set up SL Survival by hand (rather than importing), none of the mcm menus freeze up.

[YojimboRatchet]

FYI and pass it on

 

 

[zarantha]

On 10/11/2021 at 12:29 AM, Kuand said:

Hey, hope this is ok to ask here. I've been really enjoying Alternate Perspective recently and was wondering if there was any way I could go through the Bound in Skyrim questline without going through MQ101 and the escape from Helgen (non dragonborn playthrough)? I assume it would involve some edits to the associated scripts? I'm only beginning to touch scripting but am comfortable editing in and navigating CK, and XEdit so I can go through and do any necessary changes myself. 
Since Bound in Skyrim begins with dcur_ChloeQuest (if not using the LAL addon) which triggers in Helen keep after MQ101 starts, I've been looking through the associated psc files. However, I cannot for the life of me figure what I need to change to trigger the quest to start. Scarab's patches for CC and TUDM include "Quest Property MQ101  Auto", is something like this needed or am I missing the obvious? 

 

It probably would be a script edit and possibly edit the quest in the esp, but i don't think anyone here can help you with that. Cutting out Chloe because you never went through the 'starting' sequence would cut out a fair amount of the quest.

 

Really, I'd just recommend starting the MQ whenever you're ready to do bound in skyrim. There are a lot of things that are dependent on the MQ starting, and I don't think it's a good idea to bypass it forever.

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, CommunistNinja said:

Yeah, I don't think this is a DCL issue. It probably is a skyui issue. 

So, I did option 1--Kimy's method. I started a whole new save. I'm running 1400+ plugins and it takes me a little over an hour to get through all the MCM settings--DCL and SL Survival taking the longest to set-up...because there is a fortune of tweaks to be made. Everything worked fine until I got to the last one--XPMS. I literally spent an hour setting up a new game, get to the very last MCM menu for adjustments, and it's frozen. LOL

So, I remove xpms, load the save, make a new one, run re-saver...re-install xpms...it's still frozen. I roll back to an earlier save made in the alt-start area (one before the xpms mcm froze). It was a save made prior to setting up SL Survival. Initially, I set up SL Survival by importing the settings. This time, I set it up without importing the settings and now everything is working fine. So long as I set up SL Survival by hand (rather than importing), none of the mcm menus freeze up.

 

Yeah, SL Survival is picky on how it gets set up. You need to wait for a couple of notifications before entering the menu again, or it will bork things and not just MCMs. One of the discords i'm in, people can't even leave the starting cell unless it's set up just right.

[Kuand]

20 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It probably would be a script edit and possibly edit the quest in the esp, but i don't think anyone here can help you with that. Cutting out Chloe because you never went through the 'starting' sequence would cut out a fair amount of the quest.

 

Really, I'd just recommend starting the MQ whenever you're ready to do bound in skyrim. There are a lot of things that are dependent on the MQ starting, and I don't think it's a good idea to bypass it forever.

Fair enough, it's probably more trouble than it's worth. I can always use B.U.G.S and Helgen rebuilt. Thanks anyway. I at least got the captured princess start working with AP so that's something. 

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Kuand said:

Fair enough, it's probably more trouble than it's worth. I can always use B.U.G.S and Helgen rebuilt. Thanks anyway. I at least got the captured princess start working with AP so that's something. 

 

Do you mind sharing that? I started looking at making it work for myself, but had to place it on hold while I work on updating the bodyslides for the next version.

[Kuand]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Do you mind sharing that? I started looking at making it work for myself, but had to place it on hold while I work on updating the bodyslides for the next version.

Here you go. This replaces the LAL addon plugin. It contains a single quest to register the captured princess quest with The Messenger. The display text can be easily changed in XEdit under Properties "mainHeadline" and "subHeadlines" if desired. 

Looking forward to the new bodyslides.

DCL AP addon.7z

Edited October 14, 2021 by Kuand
Clarification

[Kimy]

On 10/4/2021 at 4:44 PM, YojimboRatchet said:

 

I've not found a way to stop them at all, since it's the faction they belong to. I normally just speak to the Slaver while they're attacking to get the selling option, and that usually works anyway. sometimes they die and sometimes they don't.

 

The only really solution here that I can think of, would be to have a way that the mod changes the faction of the bandit to the ZaZ slave faction, once you capture them, which would stop the constant aggro. Not sure that can be done though.

 

@Kimy

 

Any thoughts on this ?

 

I thought I fixed this a while ago. I will have a look at it again.

 

I cannot add them to the ZaZ faction though. DD has no dependency on ZaZ and does not assume it to be installed.

[JBRP]

I have a question of a, "What the <expletive deleted> am I doing wrong," nature.

 

Nothing is failing I just can't figure something out because I'm an imbecile apparently ... On the Bound in Skyrim Quest doing the jobs for Vekel I'm on the cleaning up garbage stage and I can't find any garbage to clean up? What am I looking for and where? Throw me a freakin' bone here please !!! I've been wandering around Riften in rubber and chains (entertaining though that is to watch) and cannot find anything. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, JBRP said:

I have a question of a, "What the <expletive deleted> am I doing wrong," nature.

 

Nothing is failing I just can't figure something out because I'm an imbecile apparently ... On the Bound in Skyrim Quest doing the jobs for Vekel I'm on the cleaning up garbage stage and I can't find any garbage to clean up? What am I looking for and where? Throw me a freakin' bone here please !!! I've been wandering around Riften in rubber and chains (entertaining though that is to watch) and cannot find anything. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks

 

Do you have a city replacer for riften? the garbage can be inside walls or under ground if the change was extensive enough. The garbage was placed in and for vanilla riften.

Maybe try tcl and try peeking in walls and under the ground? or temporarily disable your city mod?

[Shadowbroker3495]

6 hours ago, JBRP said:

I can't find any garbage to clean up

Marked with a blue color. Long time since i played that quest but i remember that the majority of them are around the canal in Riften.

 

Yeah, whole Riften quest is rather annoying.

 

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