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  1. Devious Followers - Continued View File Devious Followers - Continued What Is It? Devious Followers is a mod that turns regular Skyrim followers intro tricky hirelings that want to lure you into slavery. The follower charges you for their services, and if you cannot pay, you can instead take "deals" that involve bondage and humiliation for the follower's amusement. Over time, the deals tend to erode your willpower, so it becomes harder to resist the follower's influence. If you can't clear your debts quickly enough, the follower may take payment in kind and enslave you. If you are able to pay the follower, they can provide some help escaping from devious devices, play gambling games that might allow you access to extra cash or device keys, and at times they may also initiate bondage games based simply on you wearing certain devices. Gameplay Mechanics Your follower charges on a daily basis. You can configure how much they charge. You must regularly pay them - some debt is allowed - and interest can accrue. If you you are in too much debt, you must resolve the problem by taking deals, otherwise the follower may force you into deals, or take items from you to reduce the debt, or ultimately force you into slavery. Each deal relieves a certain amount of debt and provides a discount to further expenses (you can limit the discount). You can pay off deals if you have enough money, thus getting rid of the deal. Deals have a minimum period. Deals cost more to pay off before their minimum period. Most deals involve bondage or humiliation. Some involve both. Deals have three (or four) levels, the higher levels are significantly more severe than the low levels. Try to avoid higher levels if you can. There are two basic kinds of deal: regular deals, added in the 1.X series of the mod, and modular deals added in the 2.X series. The regular deals are hand crafted, with specific progression. The modular deals are semi-random. You can configure what deals are available. While deals can be intrusive, they are designed not to totally stop you playing normal Skyrim. Things that happen to the PC can reduce a new stat called Willpower. If the PC's willpower gets too low, it becomes harder to avoid bad deals or resist arbitrary demands from the follower. High willpower characters can pick and choose their deals (for a price), lower willpower characters must take what they get. If you end up in devious devices, sometimes the follower will accept payment to help you out. The follower can play a (somewhat unfair) gambling game where you can win (or lose) money. The follower can play a (somewhat unfair) gambling game where they offer restraint keys in exchange for debt. Sometimes, the follower will take advantage of your mishaps with devices and add more, settings tasks you must complete before release. Wearing the wrong device in the wrong place can be hazardous, and the follower is more likely to begin a "game" in those cases. The follower has a number of "lives" that are lost when they enter bleedout, or perform certain tasks for you. Followers become very grumpy and unhelpful when their lives reach zero. Restore follower lives by sleeping for at least six hours. If the player opts into it, or the PC gets into too much debt, the follower may take control of the PC's gold. This is both a mechanism to mitigate theft from the player, and to make it worse. Any time you can pay off all your debts, the follower doesn't control your gold, and have enough willpower, you can get rid of the follower. If you have deals, or owe money, or have very low willpower, you cannot get rid of the follower. Characters with very low willpower may automatically gain a follower. There is an optional minimum contract period. The follower is essential and cannot simply be killed to get rid of them. Multiple followers are supported, though only one will be devious at a time, you can configure how much extra you are charged. There is an MCM lockout for the truly hardcore that is vicious. Use at your peril. It's OFF by default (once turned on, there is no OFF switch). Each day there aren't enough deals to amuse the follower, the follower becomes more Bored. Bored followers charge extra for their services. Thus daily expenses tend to increase over time. You can get spanked to reduce the follower's boredom. Each time you pay your debts, you lose a little bit of your ability to resist the follower's attacks on your willpower. Pay off deals or make cash donations to priests to improve your resistance again. If you get into too much debt, you can be enslaved (optional). The enslavement should still let you play Skyrim, up to a point, but there's a lot of bondage, sex and humiliation. DF slavery does not have beatings, but there are other punishments. The follower may eventually dispose of you, via Simple Slavery, or a built-in DF mechanism (optional configuration). If you don't enable slavery the worst outcome is some harsh bondage. There is a "weird potion" quest that can clear all your deals and debt, but introduces new problems and limitations. Requirements Dawnguard DLC SexLab 1.62 https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/150-skyrim-sexlab-sex-animation-framework-v162-updated-jun-3rd-2016/ SexLab Aroused V28b or SLAX V29+ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/10461-sexlab-aroused-extended/ Devious Devices - Assets 3.0e https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/269-devious-devices-assets/ Devious Devices - Integration 4.2+ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-43a-2019-09-10/ Devious Devices - Expansion 4.2+ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1305-devious-devices-expansion/ USLEEP is recommended, but shouldn't be required. Install the DF Spank SLAL mini-pack if you want spanking support. You are not obliged to install it. It does not require Spank that Ass, that is optional (but preferred). Highly Recommended Mods Spank that Ass - improves spanking in various ways Simple Slavery - PC can be bought and sold by Devious Followers Slave Tats + Rape Tattoos - get tattoos for punishment and on enslavement Frostfall - follower can give you something to help you keep warm SexLab Survival - various willpower interactions Devious Lore - more ways to get into devious devices Laura's Bondage Shop - more ways to get into devious devices Deviously Enchanted Chests or Deviously Cursed Loot - even more ways to get into devious devices NFF, EFF, or AFT - allow multiple followers Installing Use a mod-manager if possible. If STA is installed, ensure that DF is allowed to overwrite (or lower in left-pane in MO than) your install of Spank that Ass. If you install STA after DFC, do not allow STA to overwrite DFC. If you want spanking, you must install the DF Spank SLAL mini-pack. Enable and register all the animations in it. Don't forget to FNIS. You can install custom whore armor in a special folder (see below). The default whore armor is UUNP and needs to be built in Bodyslide. Make sure that DF is after USLEEP and your follower framework (if you have one) in Load Order and, if using MO, in MO left-pane. If using NMM, ensure that DF is allowed to overwrite follower-framework scripts. DF needs to overwrite and load after follower-frameworks. Other than that, its ordering is not so important. It may conflict with some mods that modify followers or hirelings. It changes the default room rental price, so if that isn't 100, your DF is getting overwritten by another mod. Do not install any follower-framework patches for DF. The old AFT/EFF patches will only break newer DF installs - they are no longer distributed for a reason - you don't need them. You do not require a follower framework, but if you want multiple followers, you will need one regardless of DF. Do not install old patches on new versions. If any patch, from any source, doesn't say it supports a particular version, it likely doesn't support it. See notes on current version for more information on patching. Typically I try to avoid patching. There are no patches for 2.12 Upgrading You can upgrade to 2.12 from any version from 2.02 upwards, without a new game or clean save, just drop it in. Remove any old patches when upgrading. In particular, make sure any AFT/EFF patching is removed. Compatibility DFC's spanking support integrates closely with Spank that Ass to provide redness on bum and boobs, maintain your masochism/pain levels and provide new ways to get spanked. Spank that Ass is not required, but does make the experience much better. Devious Followers Continued (DFC) works with most regular followers and follower frameworks. It does not work with special custom followers that have standalone AI. DFC has built in support for AFT, EFF, and NFF. It's not perfect, and never can be, but your game shouldn't explode. DO NOT use the old EFF or AFT patches with the current release. While DF can work with the vanilla housecarls and mercenaries, it is best played using follower mods that add new followers to the game, as it feels more immersive that way. It's possible to exempt followers from being handled by DF, and you can do this with your housecarls or spouse if you want. DFC dialog seems a bit strange on a spouse follower, but it still works. DFC sort-of works with Pet Project, with or without the spouse as a devious follower. If the spouse is in DF, it's a bit odd, but shouldn't fail too much. Some chastity belt content in DF may break. DFC works with a PC enslaved via Slaverun, but it will seem like nonsense. It will work fine for a slaver character, though there may be some oddities with the follower in some places, requiring you to manually pause the mod. DFC slavery is supported as an outcome in Simple Slavery 6+ versions. SD+ crawl-stance animation keys break DF crawling. (To be fixed). DF slavery interacts a bit strangely with SD+ slavery. It's probably best not to use both at once, but I've tried it and the world didn't end. Gold control works well with SexLab Survival tolls and licenses, if you set it up appropriately. DFC works well with Deviously Cursed Loot, or some other source of bondage mishaps, such as Deviously Enslaved Continued, Naked Dungeons or Deviously Enchanted Chests. UFO is not supported by DF. If you use UFO with DF, you will likely have several problems when dismissing followers. NFF, EFF and AFT are the only supported follower frameworks. No patch is required to use them, support is built-in to DF. About the Latest Version The latest version (2.12) is massively updated from 2.11 in terms of MCM, cash management and configuration. It also contains may useful fixes over 2.11. Many mod authors would probably have released this as a new "major" version, but I feel that would be confusing in this case. The way you configure how debt obligations vary as you level up is very different, and more complete than before. The way that Chaos Mode works is greatly improved, no longer modifies your settings directly, and provides better control over randomization and ranges. Spanking is added as a new major feature. It does not require Spank that Ass, but it's better with it. DFC patches Spank that Ass, and the patch is included/built-in to the 2.12 release. If you have STA, you need to ensure that DFC files overwrite STA files. If you installed the old EFF or AFT patches for DF, please get rid of them. Those old patches will straight out break your new DF install. Do not use them. If you have them installed, remove them and make sure latest DF overwrites your follower framework. If you have follower problems, make sure you do not have those patches still set up in your MO, etc. WARNING for users of non-English DF The SKSE translation files for anything except English are now all exact copies of the ENGLISH file. Information for Old Devious Followers Users Known Bugs Unfortunately, Devious Followers has many bugs, and I have not fixed anywhere close to all of them, though with 2.12 they tend to be confined to special games and events. The enslavement mode whoring can still (rarely) cause the whore quest to crash, requiring a special ritual to make DF work again. I need to rewrite the scanning system completely as it adds scripts that are too heavy to everything it scans. Modular deals are still not shown when you ask about deals but you can now see all your deals in the MCM, and that is now the best way to see them. This will likely never be "fixed" as the message box method of reporting deals is awkward and as unimmersive as using the MCM. Bogus 'Use bed' prompts may appear in some scenes. You can turn the bed prompt off entirely in SexLab to mask this issue. Future Plans See my LL blog for info: The Lupine Collection How to Install Custom Whore Armor Please post about any bugs you find, as one of the reasons for putting this post up is to begin to capture a bug list on a clean slate. Credits Notes for Modders Submitter Lupine00 Submitted 09/28/2019 Category Other Requires SKSE, SkyUI, SexLab 1.62, DD 4.1+ Special Edition Compatible No
  2. First, some context: I've mentioned this on several occasions, but I raised it again recently, in the context of a discussion about Skyrim economics: This triggered a long response by @HexBolt8 that you can find here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/130527-devious-followers-continued/?do=findComment&comment=2936344 I'll summarize that as: Which in this case refers to a class of loot object. It's got pros and cons vs an existing item like soul gems. I won't dig into HexBolt's "rare trinkets" idea here, because while it's an interesting idea, it seems more interesting as an augmentation to other mechanics rather than a true paradigm shift in follower payment. As a concept it's just not visceral enough. It doesn't immediately resonate. It's not a strong basis for a relationship. What bothers me is that ... it just feels manufactured ... and that's true of soul gems and the other objects too. @Darkwing241 also made an interesting response, which got closer to my thinking, but addressed the issue more generally: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99955-sexlab-survival/?do=findComment&comment=2936294 To clarify: What I'm looking for is something that makes sense for a follower you are already connected to, such as a housecarl, or a spouse, a "something" that would justify them treating you like a slave if you don't deliver it. i.e. It's not for a new mod, it's a feature for Devious Followers, and it has to work with most of the existing dialogs. That doesn't mean no dialog changes. I think some dialogs would swap based on the payment 'mode', but it would be too tiresome to make all of them conditional. There would also likely be additions specific to the mode, and some little tweaks in some mechanics - such as device removal. I think the best thing would be something you do, not something you have. The key is to then make that 'thing you do' appropriate enough, interesting enough, time-consuming enough, and yet also troublesome enough, that it is lore-friendly, immersive, and good-gameplay. I'll list those points again, and number them: appropriate (it just makes sense lore and RP wise) - feels like the basis for a strong relationship immersive - feels like an event, not just a mechanic interesting - sufficient complexity time-consuming - usually easy to adjust troublesome - some effort required on the player's part, some risk of failure gameplay - choices have consequences, some risk of failure The obvious first try candidate for this is sex. It's appropriate and immersive, but it's not very interesting, and generally not troublesome or delivering any gameplay, without building a complex system around prostitution, addiction, etc. The follower could expect sex with others, or just with the follower. Their reaction to non-delivery could then be treated as either frustration that you aren't satisfying them, or a natural outcome of them acting like a pimp and treating you like a whore. The core problem with sex is that it would require a lot of new mechanics to make it work well. There is no existing prostitution mod that does the job appropriately in this context. Most of those mods lack any satisfying gameplay, or any real risk, and are just easy ways to get money if you don't mind watching SexLab scenes over and over again. Only ME ever went beyond this, and it's not compatible with anything else and had many bugs besides. It also has some 'logic' problems. Why would a housecarl do this? Why would a spouse who locks you in a chastity belt also whore you out? It feels a bit awkward. You can make up answers but they won't suit everyone. So, sex is a "maybe", but not really a great solution without a lot of extra work that would block delivering the DF feature. The spouse scenario I keep coming back to is my "running joke" vegetable stall. It's more like a grimly realistic alternate start than a solution for DF. Nevertheless, the idea of a spouse follower (or even housecarl) seeing the PC as merely a support character (regardless of the actuality) and acting accordingly is really a common story-basis for DF scenarios. It's not the only story, but it's one story you can use to rationalize what's happening in DF. In this setting, the follower demanding cash seems strange. If we turn on gold control, it makes sense that they no longer demand cash but simply control it. That still leaves a very loot oriented game, which can be boring, and doesn't quite fit with spouse followers. What could a spouse reasonably expect, either item or action? One possibility is the opposite of sex. The PC just needs not to have sex with others. This is appropriate, immersive, but not interesting, time-consuming, or necessarily good gameplay. Maybe too easy if wearing a belt, and as the only involuntary sex mod that isn't a straight-out rape mod is HH, it's pretty limiting. Suffice to say, there's something there, but it would need a lot more work to make it viable. Another possibility is that the spouse makes arbitrary and variable demands: a mixture of radiant quests and Submissive Lola type demands for items. This is probably achievable. It's pretty close to what @Darkwing241 suggested, and very, very close to what Sex Slaves - Mia's Lair - Dominant Andrew does. Andrew has a plotline and progression mixed into his radiant quests, but it really is the same thing. What Andrew does is perfect for a possessive spouse. The downside of this mix-and-match approach is that it isn't an obvious replacement for cash. There is no easy way to create an exchange rate between these different actions and cash, though you could assign values to each one. As this fits in with the radiant quest mechanics I was thinking of for enslavement, there's some efficiency there, on the downside, it makes the normal non-enslaved experience more like being enslaved, which reduces the variety of experience. I suppose it may be possible to have similar mechanics yet still make it different enough. This could be adopted with slightly different dialogs for a bossy housecarl, or other "involved" follower who isn't asking for money, but is making demands. Maybe mixing in something like the soul-gem mechanic, and "ancient trinkets" as well could help vary it. It's getting pretty nebulous as an idea. I was looking for a simple answer, and I guess there isn't one? The only "obvious" action is sex, and the drawbacks with that approach are already noted. It comes back to a handful of simple questions: What would be interesting for your housecarl to demand you do? Why would your housecarl think it's OK to try and enslave you? What would be interesting for your spouse to demand you do or give them? Why would your spouse think it's necessary/useful to enslave you?
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    Devious Followers - Continued What Is It? Devious Followers is a mod that turns regular Skyrim followers intro tricky hirelings that want to lure you into slavery. The follower charges you for their services, and if you cannot pay, you can instead take "deals" that involve bondage and humiliation for the follower's amusement. Over time, the deals tend to erode your willpower, so it becomes harder to resist the follower's influence. If you can't clear your debts quickly enough, the follower may take payment in kind and enslave you. If you are able to pay the follower, they can provide some help escaping from devious devices, play gambling games that might allow you access to extra cash or device keys, and at times they may also initiate bondage games based simply on you wearing certain devices. Gameplay Mechanics Your follower charges on a daily basis. You can configure how much they charge. You must regularly pay them - some debt is allowed - and interest can accrue. If you you are in too much debt, you must resolve the problem by taking deals, otherwise the follower may force you into deals, or take items from you to reduce the debt, or ultimately force you into slavery. Each deal relieves a certain amount of debt and provides a discount to further expenses (you can limit the discount). You can pay off deals if you have enough money, thus getting rid of the deal. Deals have a minimum period. Deals cost more to pay off before their minimum period. Most deals involve bondage or humiliation. Some involve both. Deals have three (or four) levels, the higher levels are significantly more severe than the low levels. Try to avoid higher levels if you can. There are two basic kinds of deal: regular deals, added in the 1.X series of the mod, and modular deals added in the 2.X series. The regular deals are hand crafted, with specific progression. The modular deals are semi-random. You can configure what deals are available. While deals can be intrusive, they are designed not to totally stop you playing normal Skyrim. Things that happen to the PC can reduce a new stat called Willpower. If the PC's willpower gets too low, it becomes harder to avoid bad deals or resist arbitrary demands from the follower. High willpower characters can pick and choose their deals (for a price), lower willpower characters must take what they get. If you end up in devious devices, sometimes the follower will accept payment to help you out. The follower can play a (somewhat unfair) gambling game where you can win (or lose) money. The follower can play a (somewhat unfair) gambling game where they offer restraint keys in exchange for debt. Sometimes, the follower will take advantage of your mishaps with devices and add more, settings tasks you must complete before release. Wearing the wrong device in the wrong place can be hazardous, and the follower is more likely to begin a "game" in those cases. The follower has a number of "lives" that are lost when they enter bleedout, or perform certain tasks for you. Followers become very grumpy and unhelpful when their lives reach zero. Restore follower lives by sleeping for at least six hours. If the player opts into it, or the PC gets into too much debt, the follower may take control of the PC's gold. This is both a mechanism to mitigate theft from the player, and to make it worse. Any time you can pay off all your debts, the follower doesn't control your gold, and have enough willpower, you can get rid of the follower. If you have deals, or owe money, or have very low willpower, you cannot get rid of the follower. Characters with very low willpower may automatically gain a follower. There is an optional minimum contract period. The follower is essential and cannot simply be killed to get rid of them. Multiple followers are supported, though only one will be devious at a time, you can configure how much extra you are charged. There is an MCM lockout for the truly hardcore that is vicious. Use at your peril. It's OFF by default (once turned on, there is no OFF switch). Each day there aren't enough deals to amuse the follower, the follower becomes more Bored. Bored followers charge extra for their services. Thus daily expenses tend to increase over time. You can get spanked to reduce the follower's boredom. Each time you pay your debts, you lose a little bit of your ability to resist the follower's attacks on your willpower. Pay off deals or make cash donations to priests to improve your resistance again. If you get into too much debt, you can be enslaved (optional). The enslavement should still let you play Skyrim, up to a point, but there's a lot of bondage, sex and humiliation. DF slavery does not have beatings, but there are other punishments. The follower may eventually dispose of you, via Simple Slavery, or a built-in DF mechanism (optional configuration). If you don't enable slavery the worst outcome is some harsh bondage. There is a "weird potion" quest that can clear all your deals and debt, but introduces new problems and limitations. Requirements Dawnguard DLC SexLab 1.62 https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/150-skyrim-sexlab-sex-animation-framework-v162-updated-jun-3rd-2016/ SexLab Aroused V28b or SLAX V29+ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/10461-sexlab-aroused-extended/ Devious Devices - Assets 3.0e https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/269-devious-devices-assets/ Devious Devices - Integration 4.2+ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-43a-2019-09-10/ Devious Devices - Expansion 4.2+ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1305-devious-devices-expansion/ USLEEP is recommended, but shouldn't be required. Install the DF Spank SLAL mini-pack if you want spanking support. You are not obliged to install it. It does not require Spank that Ass, that is optional (but preferred). Highly Recommended Mods Spank that Ass - improves spanking in various ways Simple Slavery - PC can be bought and sold by Devious Followers Slave Tats + Rape Tattoos - get tattoos for punishment and on enslavement Frostfall - follower can give you something to help you keep warm SexLab Survival - various willpower interactions Devious Lore - more ways to get into devious devices Laura's Bondage Shop - more ways to get into devious devices Deviously Enchanted Chests or Deviously Cursed Loot - even more ways to get into devious devices NFF, EFF, or AFT - allow multiple followers Installing Use a mod-manager if possible. If STA is installed, ensure that DF is allowed to overwrite (or lower in left-pane in MO than) your install of Spank that Ass. If you install STA after DFC, do not allow STA to overwrite DFC. If you want spanking, you must install the DF Spank SLAL mini-pack. Enable and register all the animations in it. Don't forget to FNIS. You can install custom whore armor in a special folder (see below). The default whore armor is UUNP and needs to be built in Bodyslide. Make sure that DF is after USLEEP and your follower framework (if you have one) in Load Order and, if using MO, in MO left-pane. If using NMM, ensure that DF is allowed to overwrite follower-framework scripts. DF needs to overwrite and load after follower-frameworks. Other than that, its ordering is not so important. It may conflict with some mods that modify followers or hirelings. It changes the default room rental price, so if that isn't 100, your DF is getting overwritten by another mod. Do not install any follower-framework patches for DF. The old AFT/EFF patches will only break newer DF installs - they are no longer distributed for a reason - you don't need them. You do not require a follower framework, but if you want multiple followers, you will need one regardless of DF. Do not install old patches on new versions. If any patch, from any source, doesn't say it supports a particular version, it likely doesn't support it. See notes on current version for more information on patching. Typically I try to avoid patching. There are no patches for 2.12 Upgrading You can upgrade to 2.12 from any version from 2.02 upwards, without a new game or clean save, just drop it in. Remove any old patches when upgrading. In particular, make sure any AFT/EFF patching is removed. Compatibility DFC's spanking support integrates closely with Spank that Ass to provide redness on bum and boobs, maintain your masochism/pain levels and provide new ways to get spanked. Spank that Ass is not required, but does make the experience much better. Devious Followers Continued (DFC) works with most regular followers and follower frameworks. It does not work with special custom followers that have standalone AI. DFC has built in support for AFT, EFF, and NFF. It's not perfect, and never can be, but your game shouldn't explode. DO NOT use the old EFF or AFT patches with the current release. While DF can work with the vanilla housecarls and mercenaries, it is best played using follower mods that add new followers to the game, as it feels more immersive that way. It's possible to exempt followers from being handled by DF, and you can do this with your housecarls or spouse if you want. DFC dialog seems a bit strange on a spouse follower, but it still works. DFC sort-of works with Pet Project, with or without the spouse as a devious follower. If the spouse is in DF, it's a bit odd, but shouldn't fail too much. Some chastity belt content in DF may break. DFC works with a PC enslaved via Slaverun, but it will seem like nonsense. It will work fine for a slaver character, though there may be some oddities with the follower in some places, requiring you to manually pause the mod. DFC slavery is supported as an outcome in Simple Slavery 6+ versions. SD+ crawl-stance animation keys break DF crawling. (To be fixed). DF slavery interacts a bit strangely with SD+ slavery. It's probably best not to use both at once, but I've tried it and the world didn't end. Gold control works well with SexLab Survival tolls and licenses, if you set it up appropriately. DFC works well with Deviously Cursed Loot, or some other source of bondage mishaps, such as Deviously Enslaved Continued, Naked Dungeons or Deviously Enchanted Chests. UFO is not supported by DF. If you use UFO with DF, you will likely have several problems when dismissing followers. NFF, EFF and AFT are the only supported follower frameworks. No patch is required to use them, support is built-in to DF. About the Latest Version The latest version (2.12) is massively updated from 2.11 in terms of MCM, cash management and configuration. It also contains may useful fixes over 2.11. Many mod authors would probably have released this as a new "major" version, but I feel that would be confusing in this case. The way you configure how debt obligations vary as you level up is very different, and more complete than before. The way that Chaos Mode works is greatly improved, no longer modifies your settings directly, and provides better control over randomization and ranges. Spanking is added as a new major feature. It does not require Spank that Ass, but it's better with it. DFC patches Spank that Ass, and the patch is included/built-in to the 2.12 release. If you have STA, you need to ensure that DFC files overwrite STA files. If you installed the old EFF or AFT patches for DF, please get rid of them. Those old patches will straight out break your new DF install. Do not use them. If you have them installed, remove them and make sure latest DF overwrites your follower framework. If you have follower problems, make sure you do not have those patches still set up in your MO, etc. WARNING for users of non-English DF The SKSE translation files for anything except English are now all exact copies of the ENGLISH file. Information for Old Devious Followers Users Known Bugs Unfortunately, Devious Followers has many bugs, and I have not fixed anywhere close to all of them, though with 2.12 they tend to be confined to special games and events. The enslavement mode whoring can still (rarely) cause the whore quest to crash, requiring a special ritual to make DF work again. I need to rewrite the scanning system completely as it adds scripts that are too heavy to everything it scans. Modular deals are still not shown when you ask about deals but you can now see all your deals in the MCM, and that is now the best way to see them. This will likely never be "fixed" as the message box method of reporting deals is awkward and as unimmersive as using the MCM. Bogus 'Use bed' prompts may appear in some scenes. You can turn the bed prompt off entirely in SexLab to mask this issue. Future Plans See my LL blog for info: The Lupine Collection How to Install Custom Whore Armor Please post about any bugs you find, as one of the reasons for putting this post up is to begin to capture a bug list on a clean slate. Credits Notes for Modders
  4. View File All You Need Is Whores ALL YOU NEED IS WHORES!! Is your lustful galactic empire suffering from a lack of resources?? Are you torn between building more brothels, sex cities, milk farms VS things your advisors are demanding like alloy refinerrerebies... or whatever they are called? Do you get the feeling your economy should have more things to it then call girls, escorts and whores? BUT YOU JUST DONT WANNA?! Is your species genetically modified sex maniacs? Or maybe sex dolls that became sentient? OR all of the Above?! Well, welcome to my first ever mod. Which because Paradox can't make a useful mod installer I can't get running on my system. BUT! I assure you!! One guy with a trick mustache helped me get it working on this system! Sooooo... Give it a try! Or bitch at me in the comments and maybe we can figure out how to get it working for everyone. Meant to be run with Lustful Void ❤️ and Event Replacer1 ❤️ And like all the other dirty nasty slut mods you pervs love so so much! What do's? Add's new trade policy that takes trade and makes it balanced across food, minerals, energy and Alloys!!! A respective 0.45/0.25/0.45/0.1 No consumer good cause... Milk farms. Add's some flavor text to said trade policy to set the mood. Caused me weeks of frustration. >.< Might allow me to watch you fap. (Starting to get crowded over here... seriously... Theres Zone-tan, Sanguine, Cathulu, Eros, Min, Bastet... Just to name a few. Perms. PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!! HELP ME TO GET IT RUNNING!!! T_T But like seriously if anyone thinks that can do it better go nut!! Pic from Hyperdef on pintest, which is prolly not the real artist. So if you know let me know. or submit any scifi looking brothels that look sexy. I'm not gonna turn down free prawns. Submitter Sybian Submitted 01/19/2020 Category Stellaris Requires Nothing!  
  5. I think I've, finally, settled on a configuration for Devious Followers-centered Skyrim that works pretty much as I want it to (as I laid out previously). The relevant settings being: Trade and Barter: fBarterMax 8.00, fBarterMin 2.00 Scarcity: 2x loot rarity .esp SexLab Survival: 50g toll, non level-based Devious Followers Continued: 500/50 base/level-based debt, 50% interest, 1000/1000 deal agreement/removal Perseids Inns and Taverns: 50% of default rental I was on the right track before - using Trade and Barter to tune down the prices vendors were willing to give was the key. Offloading loot in town does kind of feel a bit unsastifying now as I get basically peanuts for most items sold, but it's probably the least unsatisfying compromise. To balance Skyrim's loot economy to my liking, it seems like one of three things must be true: recurring resource sinks must be tuned very high, the amount of loot must be severely reduced, or vendors must pay a lot less for loot. But the payoff in the kind of game environment it creates is so worth it. For the first time in... maybe ever, I don't feel like I have to vigorously DM my own Skyrim playthrough just to not completely break the immersion. With a few small exceptions (no carriages), I'm finding myself actually trying my best and using all available (in-universe) tools to solve problems the game throws at me. It's also had positive effects on the Devious Followers side of things. When I took my first deal on the road to Markarth after realizing I didn't have enough daylight to reduce my 2K debt before the day's interest kicked in, it genuinely felt like a defeat. Speaking of DF. I've been running with Belrand (spellsword merc at the Winking Skeever) as my Devious Follower this playthrough. He fits the role surprisingly well. My original intent was to hire him to clear Ahtar's mission, then replace him with Ahtar as a long-term follower, but I ended up deciding to stick with Belrand. He is kinda charming in an old-man kind of way and he has that balding, lanky hairstyle that fits the "creepy uncle" trope to a tee. That plus him being an old mercenary hanging out in a bar suggest a certain kind of dynamic that is quite different from the one my other characters had with Sven. In my mind my hedge mage character initially latched on to him as a sort of father figure, though (of course) the wily old merc had other designs on his hapless ingénue. I also envision him as a bit of a drunk, which is a good excuse to handwave all the random times the follower AI will shit itself. Belrand stuck somewhere not helping out in this bandit fight? Oh, he's just shitfaced again. And with follower needs turned on in iNeed he just goes through all the booze I offload to him super quick, and he complains when he's out of drinks, which would normally be a little annoying but is a fortuitous bit of mechanical storytelling in this case. (As an unrelated aside, I've been moving away from the original pure healslut character concept and going into Destruction magic, and goddamn. Having some offensive capability bypasses so much frustration related to the follower AI being dumb as bricks sometimes. Follower inexplicably ignoring an enemy archer taking potshots at him? That's okay, I can deal with them myself.)
  6. Quick follow-up from my previous post, having played a new game for about six hours. So, of course, the in-hindsight entirely predictable outcome of removing/gutting all other major resource faucets in my game except for alchemy is, alchemy is even more relatively profitable than before. And it really is shockingly profitable once you discover the high-value potions. (For instance, blue butterfly wing plus blue mountain flower, both cheap and relatively common ingredients, make a two-effect potion that sells for 80-100g.) The house rule I set to not loot bodies feels bad. It feels like leaving money on the table. Plus there's a certain lizard-brain satisfaction to running through a dungeon and coming out laden with the possessions of your vanquished enemy. That satisfaction feels like a core appeal of Skyrim, and taking it away lessens the thrill of dungeon diving. I think the obvious solution of a mod that blanket nerfs the rates merchants are willing to give you, while inelegant, might be the way to go. I always kind of dislike that in RPGs merchants will give you like 20g for an item ostensibly worth 100g, but I see the necessity here. Trade and Barter looks good. I also really liked the idea of Trade Routes but apparently it has some unpredictable interaction with Ordinator perk trees. I've set the Devious Follower debt to a base of 500 daily, with a level-based increase of 100 per level (previous I went with 1000 base and 50 level-based). I'm not sure yet as the effects haven't kicked in, but I think this should have the desired effect of cranking up the financial pressure as I start to level up. Live Another Life is great. I started arriving on a boat to Solitude, which actually works really well. I come through the gates, and get to witness Roggvir's execution, a dramatic introduction to Skyrim and the Imperial/Stormcloak subplot. Though a bit later I did find a couple of radiant encounters on the road that would have made a lot more sense in Whiterun - the Honningbrew revelers and the two Alik'r harassing a random Redguard woman. I always assumed they were tied to a location, but apparently they are chained to the player character, wherever she might be. ----- At this point, with a few restarts under my belt, I want to try to codify what I feel is the "ideal" playthrough, for me. What kind of experience do I want out of a playthrough of Skyrim + Devious Followers? In a nutshell, I want to be put in the mindset of a struggling adventurer living hand-to-mouth. dungeon-clearing should be lucrative but not excessively so - ideally I should come out of a daily dungeon loop (kill-loot-return-craft-sell) with roughly enough to pay the follower, the toll collector plus a room at the inn. Sometimes I should come out ahead, other times I should make a loss. If anything goes wrong, like if the follower gets downed a few times or I don't plan my trips well enough, that should put me in the red unless I've had a long streak of moderate success beforehand and built up a nice nest egg. the various money sinks: inns, tolls, food etc., and alternate money faucets like waitressing, begging and performing should remain relatively relevant. financial ruin ideally shouldn't be reliant on big RNG "nukes" that I have no control over such as everything being stolen while I sleep. If/when I go into debt, it should be by incremental cuts and failures. I should be able to see it coming and either fail despite my best efforts or pull through to fail another day. I should feel comfortable enough to really actually do my best within the confines of the game mechanics, without relying on limiting myself with house-rules so as to not break the game. in a similar vein, I want to not have to constantly fiddle with the MCM mid-game to adjust settings, either in my favor or otherwise. the Devious Follower's demands should escalate steadily at roughly the rate or slightly above the rate of my increasing ability to make money (due to higher Speech, better potions, more valuable loot). At some point I should be pressured by economic necessity to start taking deals. Is such an experience even possible to configure for? And more importantly, will I get there before my interest runs out? I don't think I have an unlimited amount of restarts in me. At some point (soon, I suspect) the novelty of replaying the first dozen hours over and over again is going to run thin.
  7. Not strictly speaking a topic for LL, but eh. I'm here. I've been thinking about the economy loop for Skyrim. The very core of the problem here is that it is really easy to make lots of money in vanilla Skyrim - you very quickly get into a post-scarcity situation where you have so much gold and nice things that you have no more compelling reasons to engage in the game's "kill-loot-sell" core gameplay loop except for its own sake. And every aspect of Skyrim seems designed to funnel you into and facilitate this kill-loot-sell cycle, so when it breaks, the game can start to feel quite hollow. So getting that economy balance right is, to put it mildly, Quite Important. There's actually two distinct sub-problems here: the resource faucets are too generous. You can clear a couple of dungeons and come away thousands of gold richer, potentially, not to mention all the other lucrative things the game lets you do like alchemy, ore transmutation and smithing. there are not enough recurring resource sinks. You don't actually need to eat, sleep or heal. You can get through the game never buying a single piece of gear. You don't need to pay followers more than once. You can buy property, but why? You don't need a place to sleep, and safe barrels to stash your stuff are everywhere. (I don't really like training as it feels basically like paying to bypass level progression.) So far I've been playing with mods that tackle this latter sub-problem. Making it so that you have to eat and sleep in proper beds. Making sure your followers need to get paid. Introducing city tolls and taxes. I've come to the growing realization though that it's only a partial solution, because if you really want to put your nose to the grindstone, the game gives you multiple ways to make a shocking amount of gold in a really short time, so these sink mods all have to be tuned absurdly high to even have a hope of keeping up: licenses in SexLab Survival cost thousands. My Devious Follower demands over a thousand gold a day. I could tune these resource sinks even higher, but even at this level it's already kind of distorting the game's incentives. Sure I could run all the way up Dragonsreach to claim the 100 gold bounty from Proventus Avenicci, but the time it takes to do that already cost me more than 100 gold in recurring costs. They also completely overshadow more modest sinks like inn, food and gear repair costs, as well as making features like begging from SLS or performing from Ordinator less viable than they might otherwise be. So it's clearer to me now that the other half of the solution is tackling that first problem - the resource faucets. My first instinct is to just download a mod that guts the loot tables like Scarcity and be done with it, but thinking about it some more, a big chunk of my looted income actually comes from selling armors and weapons looted from bandits, which I don't think Scarcity touches. It might make more sense to also have a house-rule that I can't strip the armor and weapons off bandits (it always felt kind of unrealistic, anyway). I'm not 100% sure this is the way to go - what might end up happening is that dungeon-diving becomes so unrewarding it no longer makes sense for my timid civilian character to want to do so, which is not something I want. Another house rule I'll probably go with is to not use the transmute spell, when I find it. It is really strange that this this is not a bigger thing in the lore, anyway - for instance no one seems to think about transmuting all that mined silver to gold in Markarth (yeah, I know they're called the Silver-Bloods but still). Alchemy, the last big faucet, I will probably leave as is. I really like having a reason to tinker with the ingredients and discover various combos. Unrelated but I'm excited to try out Live Another Life, which I just downloaded, for my next start. Will probably go with the shipwreck or just the ship arrival start. The escape from Helgen is pretty dramatic but there's only so many times I can run through the exact same narrative beats in a short span of time without my eyes glazing over ("yes yes, mead with juniper berries in it; oh look here goes that horse thief; the dragon is gonna burst through this wall in 3..2..."). I'm interested to see if the flow of the early game still makes sense when starting not in Helgen-Riverwood-Whiterun.
  8. Version 0.0.1

    2,037 downloads

    ALL YOU NEED IS WHORES!! Is your lustful galactic empire suffering from a lack of resources?? Are you torn between building more brothels, sex cities, milk farms VS things your advisors are demanding like alloy refinerrerebies... or whatever they are called? Do you get the feeling your economy should have more things to it then call girls, escorts and whores? BUT YOU JUST DONT WANNA?! Is your species genetically modified sex maniacs? Or maybe sex dolls that became sentient? OR all of the Above?! Well, welcome to my first ever mod. Which because Paradox can't make a useful mod installer I can't get running on my system. BUT! I assure you!! One guy with a trick mustache helped me get it working on this system! Sooooo... Give it a try! Or bitch at me in the comments and maybe we can figure out how to get it working for everyone. Meant to be run with Lustful Void ❤️ and Event Replacer1 ❤️ And like all the other dirty nasty slut mods you pervs love so so much! What do's? Add's new trade policy that takes trade and makes it balanced across food, minerals, energy and Alloys!!! A respective 0.45/0.25/0.45/0.1 No consumer good cause... Milk farms. Add's some flavor text to said trade policy to set the mood. Caused me weeks of frustration. >.< Might allow me to watch you fap. (Starting to get crowded over here... seriously... Theres Zone-tan, Sanguine, Cathulu, Eros, Min, Bastet... Just to name a few. Perms. PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!! HELP ME TO GET IT RUNNING!!! T_T But like seriously if anyone thinks that can do it better go nut!! Pic from Hyperdef on pintest, which is prolly not the real artist. So if you know let me know. or submit any scifi looking brothels that look sexy. I'm not gonna turn down free prawns.
  9. Version 2.0

    244 downloads

    No longer abandoned. If anyone decided to try to pick up the project, you have permission to continue, as the direction we each will take with it will likely be completely different. Just please give your project a new name. Thanks. Welcome to Open Skies Trading Post. This is a player home turned business property. The goal is to make the player the crafter/vendor, and let Skyrim buy from the player. Near future plans -Possibly make the player buy the property from the Jarl -Navmesh the perimiter of the building to keep followers from getting stuck against the outside walls -Investigate cloning NPCs and generating generic NPCs -Write quests and dialogue -Remove the supplies from the outside chests Two people have offered to help get some of these plans accomplished. We will see if they even have the time. If not, then this may be a long time in coming. There isn't much to say other than check out my blog that better states my goal with OSTP. Have fun, folks. http://www.loverslab.com/blog/152-gitchegumees-development-blog/
  10. Slave Framework Not a modder myself but have an idea I would like to share. That is about slavery mod. we have so many slavery mods we can install many of them at once and play but it gets slowly boring and that because they lack diversity. what we need to put more love to this kind of mods Idea: So different slavery mods can work together to give more immersive experience to the player. think you can buy slaves from simple slavery and sell it to slaverun masters to make money or defeat enemy and take them as slaves and make them your follower. make your own slave market or even your own slave milk farm (MME), make them sell stuff harvest put them as plaything in cities, train your slaves at mia's dungeon and so on. think of the possibility it can unlock and what more we can do with it! with the varieties of mod we already have, it can result in a slave economy inside the game. sex scenarios, body shape change etc have there own framework like sexlab, disparity, SLIF, Devious framework, (animal) SOS, SLAL etc. A slavery framework will be a great addition to handle npcs in general not just slaves but slave handling would be a good start. Explanation: the idea is not to change a mod dramatically or make a big mod out of it. Let me explain it using some example. lets start using two simple mod defeat and simple slavery. concept: in defeat mod PC can knock an enemy out in combat then interacting with it gives multiple option. with the slavery framework mod one more additional option would be "take as slave" which will bind the character/put in a sack and send the npc to the framework remove any spell added by the defeat mod and the framework will take full control. now you go to auction house at simple slavery and the 'npc that make the announcement at auction house' will get an additional option to put pc's slave at auction. simple slavery mod will take the npc from the framework and put that npc at auction then sequence will happen as usual then pc get the coin, end of story. coding: now here the two mod mentioned here, only need one small changes to each mod. defeat mod need small coding to proceed npcs to the slave framework and remove any defeat effect from it, now the framework simply is a store the npc for any other mod to use. in this case pc go to the auction house at simple slavery, this mod need small coding to withdraw a npc stored in the framework and a little coding to make npc auction possible. the framework will only serve as a temporary hold for npc. this way any mod can work with any other mod without compatibility coding and the player can have even more immersive game play. LL have a lots of small and huge mod that can make use of a system like this without any heavy coding change. I will give some example how even a big mod can use it without changing what the mod stand for or any code rewrite. example of SlaveRun 1. slave master pike gives the pc some quest to complete(existing feature). one of them could be that, pike wants pc to bring new slaves. now the pc will buy slave from market or defeat npc and make them slave and bring them to pike 2. roaming slaver at cites wants pc to bring new slave tho them because when they can have so many why have only one? process: depending on other mod installed >> pc generate slave [eg: defeat mod(make slave), simple slavery auction(buy)] > the framework keeps them >other mod take the slave from framework and do whatever it like for role-play. [eg: Slaverun, simple slavery auction(sell)] step 1: any mod write small code and add capability to a 'already existing feature of that mod' to simply pass the npc to the framework what happens to the npc is not that mods responsibility any more. step 2: framework take the npc and store it to a secure place regardless of which mod it came from. step 3: one mod will write small code to receive the npc from the framework (which mod framework gets the npc from is not important) and write a bunch of code to make awesome role-play metrical. Possibility: transferring slave: a slavery mod have spare slave or way to produce slave can sell/move slave to other mod using the framework, receiving mod will take the the slave and use it as they like, even free them (more about it later) Interaction: slaves from any mod will be recognized by any other mod as slave and comment on it, rape them, put devious devices or whatever, one framework to handle it instead of script from different mod for same things, making game script heavy. but it will limited to basic things every slavery mod should have and each mod will handle 'there slaves' by themselves unless handed to other mod. framework will manage which slave is from where using tags or something. economy: quite few mods out out there that feature buy, sell,capture and make slave but none of them truly appealed to me because what they can do is very limited. player can capture npc using ways given to that mod and do what that mod offer, that is it. with a framework you can use a combat mod (already out there) to knock and capture and sell them to slave marketmod (already out there), take them to mia's castle and train them, send them to slave-master pike (slaverun), use them as display in cites next to hydra slavegirls, make slave milkmaid and sell there milk to market (MME), sell slave at simple slavery (why only get sold as slave?) so many possibility. dominent gameplay: with slave come slavers or dominant pc. It will open more possibility on role-play as dominent slaver or free woman, which no need of explanation. rescue slaves, hostages from random encounter at path, or at verious bandit camp and free them or sell them or send them to your sex dungeon for your grand orgy (depending on different mod installed). slave hate friction: not everyone on skyrim support slavery and many willing to take necessary steps to end or atleast cripple the system. they will free/rescue slaves. ask pc to help them, attack slavers etc and it can be used with interaction with other mods. the main Idea of the framework is simply increase the fun of the slave system by allowing verious mod react and respond to other mods. It will also help any modder to add many interesting misc. thing that will make it existing big slavery mod like SD+, slaverun and may more to come mode fun, and make use more out of npc mods like immersive wenches, slavegirls, slave market mods, kidnap mods, battle outcome mod etc. just like any sex mod thanks to sexlab framework.
  11. Hello I wanted to find more vic.. means testers so that I could get my mod to be tested, also to get some suggestion to it's choice in art/language/mechanics etc. So while I usually would put down some screens of my mod, since I just write it before works, I would post screens after work. Features: - For now 9 new jobs for our pops, that is in three different categories (Dairy cows jobs, whores jobs, sexy miners jobs). Each category has 3 jobs that belongs to different strata. The middle strata job requires > 3 pop of lower strata doing their jobs whilst upper strata job require > 6 lower strata and > 3 middle strata pops doing their jobs - New buildings and techs that allows player to build required buildings for having his pop doing those extra jobs. - For each category there is a nine events which add flavor for game, their bonuses are only planet wide and not much game-breaking, but can fire at max every month and at least every year for country, which in results affect random planet with pop doing a job (5 events are for lower strata, 3 events for middle strata and 1 for upper strata) - There is also new colony categories but it's not yet working well, it's a subject to fixing - new 18 sexual traits inspired from Sexual Gameplay. - Traits can affect effectiveness of different jobs, although they are not game-breaking (at least for normal amount of traits). Most of effects of those traits are either hidden or not developed yet - Even vanilla traits affects new jobs, for example Charismatic species would make a better escort - It has a new planet modifiers that are used by job events with icons Fun Facts: - A dairy cows jobs has around 1500 lines of "code" another files has also similar amount of code. - There is an average 5 planet modifiers per event each one depends on choice in event (which is ethic based) so there is around 150 planet modifiers which burn my mind writing description for them, since english isn't my language - What comes next more sexy economy meaning that rare feature and more jobs are planned next. Thanks for reading my post and I hope you will like my alpha mod and take your time by telling me your suggestions to it. ps. The mod is for Stellaris 2.2.2 (but also I played with 2.2.3 but the market was broken in this version) sexy_economy.7z
  12. So I was looking on here and I can't seem to find a mod that adds in slave trade or a slave market or anything like that. Does such a mod exist? Idc for my character to become a slave, just a simple mod. (somewhere to go or someone to talk to that buys or sells slaves, etc) Sorry if I missed something obvious but I even looked on the index and couldn't really find anything like this.
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