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Street Sluts


mangalo

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=== Street Sluts ===

Looking for a better name !

 

This is where you'll start.  After your training, you'll be put on the streets of Whiterun where you can perform various tasks for tokens.  For details on the training, see the "Story" blog entry.

 

You must bring back 10 tokens per day to the Masters. 

 

Tasks :

  • Prostitute yourself (1 token),
  • Relieve an animal (2 tokens),
  • Eat scrubs/feces on the ground (1 token),
  • Agree to equip an additional Device (4 tokens),
  • Bring gold to the Masters (1 token per 200 gold - 3 tokens per day max),
  • (External mod) Pee and Fart : Act as a pisspot (1 token),
  • (External mod) Slavetats : Agree to get tattooed (2 tokens),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to be fully shaved (1 token),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to get a piercing (1 token)
  • < your idea ?>

 

Limitations :

  • Masturbating without authorization is forbidden (behavior penalty),
  • You can not leave the city without authorization (behavior penalty),
  • You can only wear Devious Devices
  • You cannot hold more than X gold (no behavior penalty, gold confiscated)
  • < your idea ?>

 

Perk Tree :

  • Anal Enthusiast : You'll get an additional token when prostituting anally, (permanent)
  • Gold Digger : You'll get 1 token per 100 gold instead of 200, (permanent)
  • Team Spirit : Taking part in a orgy with two or more citizens will grant you 2 tokens, (permanent)
  • Team Spirit + : Taking part in a orgy with two or more citizens will grant you 3 tokens, (permanent)
  • < your idea ?>

 

 

Behavior penalties

 

As a Slave, any forbidden action will hold heavy consequences :

- If you hit someone, you'll get beaten and your tokens will be seized, no drug dose will be given that day,

- If you kill someone (while seen), in addition to your crime free,

- If you steal something (while seen), you'll get beaten, your tokens will be seized,

- (External mod) Amputator Framework Tweaked : If you steal something and get caught twice, one of your hands will be amputated.

 

 

You'll have to present yourself to the Masters every day between 7PM and 12PM. 

 

If you present yourself but can't prove your good work on the streets with enough tokens :

- If happened only once in the last three days : Beating,

- If happened twice in the last three days : Beating, no drug dose and additional restraints,

- If happened thrice in the last three days : Your training starts over.

 

 

< your idea ?>
 

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Agree to equip an additional Device (4 tokens),

The overuse of Devious Devices in a lot of mods on this site is a personal pet peeve of mine. I find it often breaks immersion. For example, in "Wolf Club" the PC has to wear a yoke during the first part of the enslavement. The duties at that point include waitressing. How on earth is a waitress supposed to bring your meal while wearing a bloody yoke. The thing is, when picking restraints for a slave, you'd pick something that impedes undesirable behaviour, while minimally impacting their duties. So, for everyday wear, that would be ankle chains, and a slave collar.

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Relieve an animal (2 tokens),

I have to wonder, why does seemingly every modder throw in bestiality? Maybe there's just way more people into it than I thought.

 

Also shows another world building problem, the world makes only sense if we assume that everybody has the same fetish as the author has. It's a quite common problem in porn. Applies to basically every entry on the list. Problem could be alleviated by making it so that only some npc's are willing to give you tokens for fucking animals.

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5 hours ago, Sidewasy said:

The overuse of Devious Devices in a lot of mods on this site is a personal pet peeve of mine. I find it often breaks immersion. For example, in "Wolf Club" the PC has to wear a yoke during the first part of the enslavement. The duties at that point include waitressing. How on earth is a waitress supposed to bring your meal while wearing a bloody yoke. The thing is, when picking restraints for a slave, you'd pick something that impedes undesirable behaviour, while minimally impacting their duties. So, for everyday wear, that would be ankle chains, and a slave collar.

I have to wonder, why does seemingly every modder throw in bestiality? Maybe there's just way more people into it than I thought.

 

Also shows another world building problem, the world makes only sense if we assume that everybody has the same fetish as the author has. It's a quite common problem in porn. Applies to basically every entry on the list. Problem could be alleviated by making it so that only some npc's are willing to give you tokens for fucking animals.

 

1)  It is a voluntary use of Devices, I'm not enforcing anything here.  The list of outfits can be fine-tuned not to restrict the gameplay too much.  I understand how they can break some scenarios, I think a way around that is to temporarily unlock/remove devices for certain tasks.

 

2)  Not into bestiality myself, but into degradation.  I think degradation plays a huge part for many players.  I agree that it makes no sense that fucking any animal would give you tokens, though, and agree that it should be limited to animals owned by vicious NPCs. 

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1)  It is a voluntary use of Devices, I'm not enforcing anything here.  The list of outfits can be fine-tuned not to restrict the gameplay too much.  I understand how they can break some scenarios, I think a way around that is to temporarily unlock/remove devices for certain tasks.

But why would a slave get a choice in the first place?

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1 hour ago, Sidewasy said:

But why would a slave get a choice in the first place?

 

In my optic, behavior beyond expectations (asking for additional devices) should be rewarded.  Of course it's not completely realistic because a real slave shouldn't have to make choices, but it keeps the implementation simple, while keeping the game "playable" and still have the player take decisions.

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If you want to let the devices and the shit related stuff optionnal (and I'll definitly avoid this one !), please increase the prostitution reward (2 tokens ?).

Maybe, at the beginning of mod or in MCM, you can add an option to activate/desactivate these contents.

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Street slut is maybe not the best designation for the lower ranks slaves. And not all the sex orkers, even slaves, are sluts...

 

For example, in the ottoman harems, the lower slaves in the harem hierarchy were called Odalisques (they were virgins).

 

Skavens use "meat walls" term for their slaves regiments.

 

Maybe "low rank slave" or "common slave", or "slave servant" could more reflect this rank status.

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1 hour ago, Delzaron said:

If you want to let the devices and the shit related stuff optionnal (and I'll definitly avoid this one !), please increase the prostitution reward (2 tokens ?).

Maybe, at the beginning of mod or in MCM, you can add an option to activate/desactivate these contents.

 

1 hour ago, Delzaron said:

Street slut is maybe not the best designation for the lower ranks slaves. And not all the sex orkers, even slaves, are sluts...

 

For example, in the ottoman harems, the lower slaves in the harem hierarchy were called Odalisques (they were virgins).

 

Skavens use "meat walls" term for their slaves regiments.

 

Maybe "low rank slave" or "common slave", or "slave servant" could more reflect this rank status.

 

The basic principle is that tasks aren't mandatory in general.  You don't HAVE to ask for extra devices, and you don't HAVE to ask to get shaved.  It's your choice, but you'll get a reward if you agree.

 

I agree that Street Slut is imperfect as a name.  I'm still looking for better but I want it to be degrading and descriptive of the function.  They basically are meat holes wandering the streets.  It's more degrading for a slave to admit she's a "street whore" than a "common slave".

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Haven't you thought about taking over the "Slaverun" project? I don't think anyone will blame this since the original author disappeared over two years ago. And as for the proposal of this mod. I am willing to wait for the test version.

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3 hours ago, killer905 said:

Haven't you thought about taking over the "Slaverun" project? I don't think anyone will blame this since the original author disappeared over two years ago. And as for the proposal of this mod. I am willing to wait for the test version.

 

I have, and the policy on abandonned mods recently changed to allow people to take them over.  But to fix Slaverun would mean keeping it the way it is, and fixing its scenario flaws.  It wouldn't allow for a lot of things I have in mind.
If anyone is up to it, however, it'd be a good initiative.

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1 hour ago, mangalo said:

 

I have, and the policy on abandonned mods recently changed to allow people to take them over.  But to fix Slaverun would mean keeping it the way it is, and fixing its scenario flaws.  It wouldn't allow for a lot of things I have in mind.
If anyone is up to it, however, it'd be a good initiative.

You can always finish the functions of version 3.0 (?) Probably related to training your own slave and a few other things. And give own mod priority as the main project.
 

Regardless of your decision, I will be watching the project.

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Street slut seems like a good idea.  One thing to have them do, is a little like parading the slave and ranting them.  Prostitution should be made important here. 

 

In slave run anyone can just take the women, then why bother with buying a slave?  Just take the first girl you see and have fun.  This could be used as a punishment (girl toss around for a time), but beside that they must be use for money by the slaver. 

 

Paraded in the city, but maybe also between city.  Example, a group of 4-5 slaves are prostituted in Whiterun for a week, walked around then brought to the Bannered Mare, then they prostitute there for the nights.  The one bringing the least income is whipped. 

 

Then at the end of the week or a short period of time, two or three slaves are taken to a different town, the PC could be one of them and the same amount of  new slave are replacing the departing one.  This would bring variety.  So this would mean the PC would be stuck in a city for up to two round. 

 

In the new city same thing.  Occasionally some slave could be sold to reach adventurer or owner.  Or they just move with each caravans until the PC reach the next level in slavery.  All that decided through the MCM with an element of randomness.

 

When they sleep it would be like from 3 am to 10 am in a cage or chained to the ground.  Then a quick bath and back to work.

 

Just an idea like that, hope you like it.  Thanks for reading.

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Regarding the task list i would like to comment on the highlighted Task

 

Tasks :

  • Prostitute yourself (1 token),
  • Relieve an animal (2 tokens),
  • Eat scrubs/feces on the ground (1 token),
  • Agree to equip an additional Device (4 tokens),
  • Bring gold to the Masters (1 token per 200 gold - 3 tokens per day max),
  • (External mod) Pee and Fart : Act as a pisspot (1 token),
  • (External mod) Slavetats : Agree to get tattooed (2 tokens),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to be fully shaved (1 token),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to get a piercing (1 token)
  • < your idea ?>

My suggestion
- add an additional Device for the whole working day instead and when you report back to whom ever you report to; they will remove it. That being said, it would break the idea which you proposed about having a common Uniform for all slaves (or even color of the unfiorm). 

 

For example, A street slut wears heels, gloves and collar in a Uniform manner, if you just agreed to add the device like for ever, it would break Uniformity which you want to implement. Therefore, an east way to bypass it would be setting a time limit for the added device or to be removed after reporting. In a general, it would be a Temporary Device.

 

Thanks for taking by my advice :)

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Regarding the task list i would recommend extra tasks; feel free to use whatever you want :)

 

Tasks :

  • Prostitute yourself (1 token),
  • Relieve an animal (2 tokens),
  • Eat scrubs/feces on the ground (1 token),
  • Agree to equip an additional Device (4 tokens),
  • Bring gold to the Masters (1 token per 200 gold - 3 tokens per day max),
  • (External mod) Pee and Fart : Act as a pisspot (1 token),
  • (External mod) Slavetats : Agree to get tattooed (2 tokens),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to be fully shaved (1 token),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to get a piercing (1 token)
  • < your idea ?>

My suggestions

- Dancing (which increases arousal).
- Degrading your self by dirty talks.

- Not sex linked ideas such as mining, chopping wood, Delivery, Smithing, etc. ( Boring/dull in my opinion?)

- (External mod) Spank That Ass: get a slap.

- I will add more to this list whenever i catch up on something new (by Quoting)

 

regarding the token, i will keep it to your liking mangalo.

 

Thanks for taking by my advice :)

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5 hours ago, Selena Glazer said:

Regarding the task list i would like to comment on the highlighted Task

 

Tasks :

  • Prostitute yourself (1 token),
  • Relieve an animal (2 tokens),
  • Eat scrubs/feces on the ground (1 token),
  • Agree to equip an additional Device (4 tokens),
  • Bring gold to the Masters (1 token per 200 gold - 3 tokens per day max),
  • (External mod) Pee and Fart : Act as a pisspot (1 token),
  • (External mod) Slavetats : Agree to get tattooed (2 tokens),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to be fully shaved (1 token),
  • (External mod) Immersive Fashion : Ask to get a piercing (1 token)
  • < your idea ?>

My suggestion
- add an additional Device for the whole working day instead and when you report back to whom ever you report to; they will remove it. That being said, it would break the idea which you proposed about having a common Uniform for all slaves (or even color of the unfiorm). 

 

For example, A street slut wears heels, gloves and collar in a Uniform manner, if you just agreed to add the device like for ever, it would break Uniformity which you want to implement. Therefore, an east way to bypass it would be setting a time limit for the added device or to be removed after reporting. In a general, it would be a Temporary Device.

 

Thanks for taking by my advice :)

 

Thanks for the feedback.  I think I need to polish the part about devices and uniform in general.

Basically, I'd like to keep an horizontal uniformity but a vertical diversity.  A slave rank gets a device color and a few "mandatory" devices.

For example:

- Street sluts (current name but could change) : Black color, basic devices : Collar X + Boots Y

- Maid Slaves : White color, basic devices : Chastity belt A + Latex suit B

...

 

If you ask for additional devices, ideally they'd be the color of your rank (when applicable) so you don't break the uniform.

 

You could still recognize a slave by the basic devices she wears and the color of her devices.  But I agree that a temporary wear of those devices could be a better way of doing things.  I'll reflect on it.

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Hi,

 

If ever you decide to provide a rotation of slave in various cities, maybe add also a rotation of slave cattle for Castle Volkihar.  No need to have those poor girl killed, just bleed a little, fuck in the mean time, and if one present some interesting quality (through quest), maybe you could have the Succubus curse implemented there to keep her as Pet (a way to replace the need to become a vampire). 

 

It could be considered like "inside the castle street slut" (feed and fuck the vampire for token).

 

Hope you like the idea.

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7 hours ago, mangalo said:

 

Thanks for the feedback.  I think I need to polish the part about devices and uniform in general.

Basically, I'd like to keep an horizontal uniformity but a vertical diversity.  A slave rank gets a device color and a few "mandatory" devices.

For example:

- Street sluts (current name but could change) : Black color, basic devices : Collar X + Boots Y

- Maid Slaves : White color, basic devices : Chastity belt A + Latex suit B

...

 

If you ask for additional devices, ideally they'd be the color of your rank (when applicable) so you don't break the uniform.

 

You could still recognize a slave by the basic devices she wears and the color of her devices.  But I agree that a temporary wear of those devices could be a better way of doing things.  I'll reflect on it.

Got your point about the unifromity in the color of the devices and the basic devices. It would be great if you reflect on the temporary wear of those devices; as you mentioned in your last point.

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I have some ideas regarding the penalties you listed there:

  • Hitting street slave (be you slave or not) carry no penalties.
    • Hitting anyone else is a crime.
  • Stealing from another street slave carry no penalties (be you slave or not). You successfully steal the item no matter what, but if you're found out the victim might try to fight you (brawl) to get back what you stole (uninvolved citizens spectates, maybe?), but only if robber is a slave herself of the same rank (street). If you're a higher ranking slave or free female/man they won't dare do anything.
    • Could potentially be another source for tokens?
    • Stealing from anyone else is considered a crime.

The reason why hitting and stealing from street slaves as slave is "allowed" is to enforce (for lack of a better word) rivalries between the slaves and make sure no friendships are formed. If they sympathize with each other they might try organize and rebel.

Perhaps throughout this whole mod, seeing other slaves as rivals might be actively encouraged?

  • Killing a street slave as a slave: You get punished severely and is forced to pay reparations (whatever that entails) to the slavers/owners.
  • Killing a street slave as a male or free female: You only have to pay reparations to the slavers/owners.
  • Killing a house slave as a slave: You get punished severely and is forced to pay reparations (whatever that entails) to the owner(s).
  • Killing a house slave as a male or free female: You only have to pay reparations to the owner(s).
  • Etcetera...

No matter your slave rank, you're still just a thing. A possession. And possessions can be replaced.

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53 minutes ago, Syntonic said:

I have some ideas regarding the penalties you listed there:

  • Hitting street slave (be you slave or not) carry no penalties.
    • Hitting anyone else is a crime.
  • Stealing from another street slave carry no penalties (be you slave or not). You successfully steal the item no matter what, but if you're found out the victim might try to fight you (brawl) to get back what you stole (uninvolved citizens spectates, maybe?), but only if robber is a slave herself of the same rank (street). If you're a higher ranking slave or free female/man they won't dare do anything.
    • Could potentially be another source for tokens?
    • Stealing from anyone else is considered a crime.

The reason why hitting and stealing from street slaves as slave is "allowed" is to enforce (for lack of a better word) rivalries between the slaves and make sure no friendships are formed. If they sympathize with each other they might try organize and rebel.

Perhaps throughout this whole mod, seeing other slaves as rivals might be actively encouraged?

  • Killing a street slave as a slave: You get punished severely and is forced to pay reparations (whatever that entails) to the slavers/owners.
  • Killing a street slave as a male or free female: You only have to pay reparations to the slavers/owners.
  • Killing a house slave as a slave: You get punished severely and is forced to pay reparations (whatever that entails) to the owner(s).
  • Killing a house slave as a male or free female: You only have to pay reparations to the owner(s).
  • Etcetera...

No matter your slave rank, you're still just a thing. A possession. And possessions can be replaced.

 

I like the idea.  We'll have to see what is possible to do with the vanilla crime system and if bypassing it is possible.

 

@Snook001

Well it's a nice idea, but it's a very specific use case and probably won't be in the scope of development at short and medium term.  But once the groundwork is done, we'll see what can be done with the framework :)

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On 4/10/2021 at 7:34 PM, Sidewasy said:

I have to wonder, why does seemingly every modder throw in bestiality? Maybe there's just way more people into it than I thought.

 

Also shows another world building problem, the world makes only sense if we assume that everybody has the same fetish as the author has. It's a quite common problem in porn. Applies to basically every entry on the list. Problem could be alleviated by making it so that only some npc's are willing to give you tokens for fucking animals.

I could argue the same about pee and fart. I think Scat and piss is far worse than being a beast or animal fucker in a world full of beasts and animals.

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On 7/28/2021 at 3:51 PM, RoxDox said:

I could argue the same about pee and fart. I think Scat and piss is far worse than being a beast or animal fucker in a world full of beasts and animals.

Well, yeah, the same holds true for scat.

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10 minutes ago, Sidewasy said:

Well, yeah, the same holds true for scat.

 

On 7/28/2021 at 1:51 PM, RoxDox said:

I could argue the same about pee and fart. I think Scat and piss is far worse than being a beast or animal fucker in a world full of beasts and animals.

 

I see your point, I also found bestiality to be a bit over-the-top in SLR.  I want to hold true to the 'granularity' in this new mod, meaning that tasks aren't co-dependant.  Ideally, it would mean specific tasks (read 'fetishes') could be disabled.  Probably won't be available at first, since it depends on my learnings of the ck and scripting, tough.

 

On a side note, haven't forgotten the mod, don't worry.  I'm currently on vacation with no access to my main rig.  But I keep reading your comments :)

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