Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

Edit : Nevermind, i gave up. I'll go back to the unpatched version.

Hello everyone, let me just say that this is the best and hottest mod on Loverslab.

I have been a lurker here for a couple years and never had much issues with mods in general. I just had to fumble around, pray and slap my computer to for them work.

But i am ready to give up... i went from regular PO to POP and i can't make it work after a couple weeks of trying.

I purchased the DLCs for skyrim JUST to play this updated version of my favourite mod.

Could i get some help, please ?

My current issue :

When getting arrested, my character and the guard just stare each other's down after the dialogue. And i sometimes have the 'Not a viable captor' message.

Papyrus.0.log

Not sure if this helps : https://imgur.com/a/GSRJHF4

@Inte

Happy New Year to you. 

May 2021 be the end of the year of our Forced Incarceration

Or maybe not, if you carry on doing your thing ..... ?

Thanks for all the current updates.  As ever, much appreciated

I was just wondering if player could be the bounty hunter sending bandits to prison

has anyone made a working port for sse

2 hours ago, wrath89dragon said:

has anyone made a working port for sse

@Inte gave me permission to port the mods to Skyrim SE.

Skyrim SE ports of SUM and POP are ready - I provided them to Inte, and I am waiting to hear back from Inte on adding the SE ports to the official mod pages.

I haven't heard from Inte since last month, so I am thinking that perhaps I should post them in comments to let people begin testing them.

15 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

@Inte gave me permission to port the mods to Skyrim SE.

 

Skyrim SE ports of SUM and POP are ready - I provided them to Inte, and I am waiting to hear back from Inte on adding the SE ports to the official mod pages.

 

I haven't heard from Inte since last month, so I am thinking that perhaps I should post them in comments to let people begin testing them.

that would be awesome could u post them all hear so i dont have to go to each mod page

edit: i could be wrong but if u alrdy have permission y dont u make the official mod page

On 1/14/2021 at 10:01 PM, wrath89dragon said:

if u alrdy have permission y dont u make the official mod page

I have permission to do the Skyrim SE conversions, but I do not have permission to post them on the mod pages. Only Inte can do that.

Here is the permission that Inte gave me:

POP 4.60 requires SUM 1.60. Skyrim SE conversions for both mods are provided here.

Skyrim Utility Mod - SUM 1.60 for Skyrim SE

SUM-1-60-SE.zip

This is a combination of these download files for Skyrim LE:

• Skyrim - Utility Mod 160  LE.7z
• Skyrim - Utility Mod 160  LE - Default MCM.7z
• Skyrim - Utility Mod 160  LE - UIE Patch.7z

I left the ESM as Form 43. I typically leave things as Form 43 unless there is a reason to resave in 64-bit Creation Kit.

I made the following changes:

• Edited iSUmMain.psc to avoid CTD when using a controller by commenting the 2 lines of code consisting of:  Input.TapKey(Input.GetMappedKey("Forward"))
• Recompiled iSUmMain.psc to iSUmMain.pex
• Changed the ESM to add missing weapon critical data, so that SSEEdit now shows zero errors.

Prison Overhaul Patched - POP 4.60 for Skyrim SE

POP-4-60-SE.zip

I left the ESP as Form 43. I typically leave things as Form 43 unless there is a reason to resave in 64-bit Creation Kit.

I made the following changes:

• Used Creation Kit to export the facegen files for the added NPCs (Jailer and Jaileress). I used my KSHair FaceGen Export Rig so the generated head meshes have KS Hairdos. Please note that KS Hairdos is not required because I have included copies of the relevant textures in the download package.
• Edited xpoPatchesMain.psc to avoid CTD when using a controller by commenting the line of code consisting of: Input.TapKey(Input.GetMappedKey("Forward"))
• Recompiled xpoPatchesMain.psc to xpoPatchesMain.pex
• Changed the ESP to add missing weapon critical data, so that SSEEdit now shows zero errors.
• Changed the ESP to forward Skyrim SE waterflow record changes.
• Changed the ESP to forward USSEP changes.

2 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

I have permission to do the Skyrim SE conversions, but I do not have permission to post them on the mod pages. Only Inte can do that.

 

Here is the permission that Inte gave me:

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POP 4.60 requires SUM 1.60. Skyrim SE conversions for both mods are provided here.

 

 

SUM 1.60 for Skyrim SE

 

SUM-1-60-SE.zip 3.07 MB · 14 downloads

 

This is a combination of these 2 download files for Skyrim LE:

• Skyrim - Utility Mod 160  LE.7z
• Skyrim - Utility Mod 160  LE - UIE Patch.7z

I left the ESM as Form 43. I typically leave things as Form 43 unless there is a reason to resave in 64-bit Creation Kit.

 

I made the following changes:

• Edited iSUmMain.psc to avoid CTD when using a controller by commenting the 2 lines of code consisting of:  Input.TapKey(Input.GetMappedKey("Forward"))
• Recompiled iSUmMain.psc to iSUmMain.pex
• Changed the ESM to add missing weapon critical data, so that SSEEdit now shows zero errors.

 

POP 4.60 for Skyrim SE

 

POP-4-60-SE.zip 8.61 MB · 25 downloads

 

I left the ESM as Form 43. I typically leave things as Form 43 unless there is a reason to resave in 64-bit Creation Kit.

 

I made the following changes:

• Used Creation Kit to export the facegen files for the added NPCs (Jailer and Jaileress). I used my KSHair FaceGen Export Rig so the generated head meshes have KS Hairdos. Please note that KS Hairdos is not required because I have included copies of the relevant textures in the download package.
• Edited xpoPatchesMain.psc to avoid CTD when using a controller by commenting the line of code consisting of: Input.TapKey(Input.GetMappedKey("Forward"))
• Recompiled xpoPatchesMain.psc to xpoPatchesMain.pex
• Changed the ESM to add missing weapon critical data, so that SSEEdit now shows zero errors.
• Changed the ESM to forward Skyrim SE waterflow record changes.
• Changed the ESM to forward USSEP changes.

 

 

Thank you thank you thank you thank you.

I've been using .44 sum and pop SE for years now. Looking forward to seeing what this does. 

35 minutes ago, wrath89dragon said:

r u also working on prison overhaul and if u r when will it be done

POP is Prison Overhaul Patched, and I provided a conversion for Skyrim SE in my post above.

1 hour ago, Herowynne said:

POP is Prison Overhaul Patched, and I provided a conversion for Skyrim SE in my post above.

im a moron i just relized what it stood and went to delete the post im bad with abriveations and possibly spelling

9 hours ago, wrath89dragon said:

i just relized what it stood [for]

That is very good point. The abbreviations by themselves might be confusing. I just revised my post to add the full mod names next to the abbreviations.

For some reason. when a arrest trigger the captor only casts the spell on me and my follower, we both remain restrained on the floor and the captor stands there doing nothing and nothing happens.

My Riften prison was broken. 

Parts of the room were turning on and off as I moved around, with areas not displaying unless I was inside them.

I tracked the problem down to edits in POP.

If I disabled POP, my prison was fine.

Looking in more detail, there are some hairy conflicts between POP, USLEEP, USCP, ELFX, ELFX Enhancer, and ELFX Hardcore.

This is stuff from Cells - Block 9 - Sub-Block 7 - RiftenJail01 - Persistent and Temporary.

Mainly room bounds and portals.

Simply letting POP win everything isn't the solution.

In that case, there's less flipping on and off, but you still can't see the prison from the entrance point just after the door where the guard needs to be persuaded, and instead get a lot of black.

If I let USCP win everything, then I end up with an OK prison but the big cell at the far end of the top floor doesn't render properly unless you're in it, and there are some flickering lights downstairs (with ELFX).

Letting USLEEP win is an option I haven't tried, as USCP is claiming to do a better job - possibly doesn't?

In that case there are records USLEEP leaves vanilla that USCP changes.

As for the ELFX changes ... and the hardcore changes ... it's hard to tell whether maybe they'd fix the flickering lights.

I think hardcore removes some torches from sconces, though you can replace them in-game.

The conflicts are so complex you can really only fix them in the CK where you can see what bound is what.

It would simplify merging considerably if the POP portal and room bound edits were made to match USLEEP or USCP (pick one).

My guess is that POP really only gives a properly rendering Riften prison in unpatched vanilla?

But really, who runs unpatched vanilla? Practically every ENB expects ELFX or less often ELE.

None suggest Enhancer, but that's not causing (m)any issues. I like how it looks with SURE, so I'm using it. It's getting overwritten by Hardcore anyway.

USLEEP has the essential fix for prison escape in it, so overwriting that seems questionable, though I'm unsure to what extent the cell edits are relevant to that fix.

It's taken me several hours today to get a somewhat tolerable prison, and it still needs more work, so it's not like these edits don't have consequences for players, and quite a few of them may be significantly non-essential from POP's perspective.

For some reason the mod switches to hardcore mode after being arrested. Which I would not see as a too big problem if the guards dident stop coming into my cell after 5 rounds.

I love that there is an SE version posted here, but I still can't get this thing to work. It says that it needs DDe 4.6, but that is an LE version and the SE version of DDe hasn't been updated in years. If it has been I would love to have a link to where I can find it. Will it work anyway? Can anyone make an SE version of the current DDe?

I have suffered serveral times CTD when got arrested and the jail sends my items to the chest. Does anyone know any possible reasons of that?

20 hours ago, cerebus300 said:

I love that there is an SE version posted here, but I still can't get this thing to work. It says that it needs DDe 4.6, but that is an LE version and the SE version of DDe hasn't been updated in years. If it has been I would love to have a link to where I can find it. Will it work anyway? Can anyone make an SE version of the current DDe?

Prison Overhaul Patched (POP) does not require Devious Devices Equip (DDE). POP can optionally integrate with DDE if POP discovers that DDE is also installed.

I have made a Skyrim SE conversion of DDE, but it suffers from the problem of DDE plug effects not working. I have asked for feedback in the DDE support forum as to whether plug effects are working for other folks using DDE on Skyrim LE.

I do not want to make my Skyrim SE port of DDE available until I get an answer about whether the DDE plug effects work or are broken in Skyrim LE, to let me know whether or not I broke them in my port.

On 1/1/2021 at 11:29 AM, donkeywho said:

Happy New Year to you. 

You too. 

On 1/18/2021 at 12:53 AM, Lupine00 said:

Simply letting POP win everything isn't the solution.

It should be, as that is what I am doing, tho I am only using USLEEP from your list. Everything looks fine with that. 

On 1/19/2021 at 10:20 AM, Thornagar said:

For some reason the mod switches to hardcore mode after being arrested.

Yes, it does that for violent crimes of any kind.

On 1/19/2021 at 10:20 AM, Thornagar said:

the guards dident stop coming into my cell after 5 rounds.

Have you a log of this? 

On 1/19/2021 at 10:45 PM, bjut1101 said:

I have suffered serveral times CTD when got arrested and the jail sends my items to the chest. Does anyone know any possible reasons of that?

Sometimes that happens when you have a lot of one item (usually gold, about 5 figures or more). 

7 hours ago, Herowynne said:

I have made a Skyrim SE conversion of DDE, but it suffers from the problem of DDE plug effects not working. I have asked for feedback in the DDE support forum as to whether plug effects are working for other folks using DDE on Skyrim LE.

Still on DDf 4 and they work there. I'm yet to test them with DDf 5. 

49 minutes ago, Inte said:

It should be, as that is what I am doing, tho I am only using USLEEP from your list. Everything looks fine with that. 

ELFX, ELFX - Enhancer, and ELFX - Hardcore make edits that aren't completely overridden by PoP.

Though ELFX itself doesn't cause any trouble.

And then there's USCP.

I've had issues with a few interior locations, but in most cases simply replacing ELFX - Hardcore edits with USLEEP makes things work again, even if not as "Hardcore" as intended.

RiftenJail01 is harder though, due to USCP.

USCP claims it diligently resolves a bunch of problems in USLEEP or unfixed by it.

I guess the USCP author didn't make all those edits because they're crazy, as I find USCP does seem to improve things until you mix in ELFX Enhancer and Hardcore.

However, USCP and PoP don't get on in Riften.

As you've demonstrated, PoP needs to apply its changes against a state that USLEEP would produce, not USCP.

Thanks for clearing up what I need to base the merge on. I guess all USCP edits needs to be purged from that cell.

You might want to smuggle this information away on the main page somewhere as its an incompatibility of sorts - with a known workaround.

The PoP-ified prison with ELFX - Hardcore is substantially broken, and with USCP it's a bit broken (only the end room on the top floor).

On 1/21/2021 at 3:08 PM, Inte said:

Sometimes that happens when you have a lot of one item (usually gold, about 5 figures or more). 

Well, I have tried removing all items before trigger an event but it does not work. Also, I found nothing useful in my Papyrus log files too. I tried to adjust my mod load list but it still happens sometimes. Now at this time I have no idea why?.

On 1/21/2021 at 8:04 AM, Inte said:

Yes, it does that for violent crimes of any kind.

 

Have you a log of this? 

ill try to find the logs next time it happens.