Devious Devices SE

[LilHel]

I have a slight problem where where the hand and feet do not conform to the equipment equipped. ex. with an armbinder the armbinder renders but the arms stay outside of the armbinder as if it were never there and for the hobble dress I have installed the hopping feature but even with the base feature the dresses mesh gets stretched and the character proceeds to walk as if normally with the hobble dress slow applied another problem was that the chastity belt and bras likes to disappear when a latex suit is equipped. I am using zaz animation 8 since it was the newer one idk if I'm still supposed to use 7.

[Raine_Hyd]

6 hours ago, ShikiXNeku said:

Ok, so I have found out that the outfits can never be accessed by the player, so instead I tried adding the device as an item from a leveled list (which I was already using) and in doing so that successfully equipped the device. So that is progress.

 

But, the device is still broken, mind you this is from DDx, so the scripts should be built into the device, yet it still fails. I will do some further testing to see if I can figure something out on this front.

Corsec used to have a mod that put DD on NPC but it became script heavy and he changed it to items without DD scripts. You might be able to talk to him about it.

 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, ShikiXNeku said:

The only problem at this point, forcing it to be equipped onto the npc, of which I have no clue how to do. I could probably add a script to the device (specifically I am creating a copied device to add this script to) so that it only triggers when this mod adds it to the npc, but I can't quite figure out a way to force equip it.

 

Adding to NPCs is unreliable at best. You could also try

 

[NekuxShiki]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Adding to NPCs is unreliable at best. You could also try

 

I Yes I have this, as it was the inspiration to do this.

Edited June 19, 2023 by ShikiXNeku
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[serranna]

On 6/17/2023 at 1:38 AM, ihatemykite said:

have some ideas what might be source of issue but I will need more info. Can you per chance share the papyrus log ? I have added some logging to expression system, so it might give some info. Alternatively, can you check the save in resaver and see if there are any active papyrus threads? There is possibly something wrong with mutex.

 

I roll back to an earlier save after it happens and delete the bad saves. The next time it happens I will upload a papyrus log. As far as the resaver, where would I find if there are any active papyrus threads?

 

It doesn't happen often enough to say I'll have it soon because it's pretty inconsistent, but I'll upload one when it does.

 

Edit: Would a papyrus of an existing save suffice? After posting this I loaded up my most recent save to discover the problem going on. Unfortunately, like the genius I am, I deleted all the old papyrus logs so this log won't capture the moment the problem started. If you need that I'll have to wait until it happens again. I did however equip and unequip gags to characters during this session to see if any errors fire. It was the last thing I did before quitting so it should be toward the bottom of the log.

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Edit2: I have no idea what I'm looking at in resaver, but in the active scripts section, it's full of the same thing.

 

Spoiler

 

I would be happy to share the save file if you want to have a look at it yourself, otherwise you'll have to tell me specifically what to look for and where to find it.

Edited June 19, 2023 by serranna

[ihatemykite]

8 hours ago, serranna said:

 

I roll back to an earlier save after it happens and delete the bad saves. The next time it happens I will upload a papyrus log. As far as the resaver, where would I find if there are any active papyrus threads?

 

It doesn't happen often enough to say I'll have it soon because it's pretty inconsistent, but I'll upload one when it does.

 

Edit: Would a papyrus of an existing save suffice? After posting this I loaded up my most recent save to discover the problem going on. Unfortunately, like the genius I am, I deleted all the old papyrus logs so this log won't capture the moment the problem started. If you need that I'll have to wait until it happens again. I did however equip and unequip gags to characters during this session to see if any errors fire. It was the last thing I did before quitting so it should be toward the bottom of the log.

 

Papyrus.0.log 175.92 kB · 0 downloads

 

Edit2: I have no idea what I'm looking at in resaver, but in the active scripts section, it's full of the same thing.

 

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I would be happy to share the save file if you want to have a look at it yourself, otherwise you'll have to tell me specifically what to look for and where to find it.

That's it! Please, share the save that you opened in resaver. As I thought, it is locked in mutex, and so all threads are going on forever (and all are blocked on zadGagEffect, which is also strange). Question is why. Taking a look at the save can give my some clue tho.

Edited June 19, 2023 by ihatemykite

[VenusTrifecta]

I'm having an issue where the neck turns invisible on argonians when equipping the hoods. I'm not sure if this affects khajiit or their male counterparts yet, but I will reply/edit this once I find out. 

[serranna]

2 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Please, share the save that you opened in resaver.

 

First one is the ESS, the second one is the SKSE.

 

Save107_4CD3587D_0_41726961_RoriksteadFrostfruitInn_022106_20230618225226_100_1.ess Save107_4CD3587D_0_41726961_RoriksteadFrostfruitInn_022106_20230618225226_100_1.skse

Edited June 19, 2023 by serranna

[DailyS]

I've noticed that the rubber sounds don't seem to play anymore, even with the sound frequency set to Frequent. Does anyone else have this problem or know a solution?

[summerink]

Hi guys,

 

I was wondering whether anyone could help me with a problem i've been having. I've only just converted to SE after years of modding with LE so there may well be a well known solution to this that i'm just not aware of.

 

I've been having a problem with DD devices where I immediately get a ctd when I try to equip the handcuffs or the prisoner chains. I've been trying to work out why for hours and I cannot, for the life of me, figure it out. I had a similar problem with LE a while back but reinstalled HDT physics and it sorted it straight away. No such luck here. I've triple checked all requirements, reinstalled DD and both HDT-SMP and Faster HDT, played with bodyslide settings a bunch (I've run FNIS every time obviously) but no luck. I'm having no issue with any other aspects and also the ZAZ cuffs are having no issue. I'm using the CBBE slim body if that helps in any way. Oh also I downgraded from AE back to SE 1.5.97.0 when I found out how much of a pain AE is to mod for.

 

If anyone has a solution to this I would be very grateful. 

[Omnishade]

Is there any key that works with the slut collar or do you have to wear it until it unlocks by itself? I tried adding 3 head restraint keys, 3 restraint keys and kimy's key, but nothing worked. I might deactivate it because it's not that fun to play with, and theoretically you can just wait or sleep the time off. Actually playing with it is just RP.

[ihatemykite]

2 hours ago, serranna said:

 

First one is the ESS, the second one is the SKSE.

 

Save107_4CD3587D_0_41726961_RoriksteadFrostfruitInn_022106_20230618225226_100_1.ess 9.55 MB · 1 download Save107_4CD3587D_0_41726961_RoriksteadFrostfruitInn_022106_20230618225226_100_1.skse 1.73 MB · 0 downloads

Thanks. Looks like that for some reason, in your case it was also checking gag effect on NPC. This caused the whole papyrus engine to get clogged. Dunno why, so for now I just added some more checks which should prevent this from happening. But I'm not sure if that will solve the issue on your existing save. You can try the updated script, and if it still doesn't work, you can try to terminate the threads in resaver. But only the threads which looks like this

Spoiler

Download: DD - Gag NPC Fix 1.0.zip

 

Let me know if this helped in any way.

[archerthegrey]

new dd 5.2 items lacking brrf support
Also the heavy head harness that has existed for awhile now also lacks brrf and looks really terrible on beast races

[serranna]

7 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Looks like that for some reason, in your case it was also checking gag effect on NPC. This caused the whole papyrus engine to get clogged. Dunno why, so for now I just added some more checks which should prevent this from happening. But I'm not sure if that will solve the issue on your existing save.

 

I wonder if that's why if I kept playing on one of those saves, it wouldn't take long for other things to start breaking.

The way I play lots of NPCs end up in restraints, so it doesn't surprise me if it was calling for checks on them. I use the Devious Strike mod, which can potentially start tying up NPCs that aren't even near me but might be loaded in the distance. That in combination with the Adventurers and Travelers mod, and a mod I made that puts over 100 unique NPCs in the world that travel the roads means the roads can be very populated sometimes, which can lead to a lot of things happening to them even if I'm not in the immediate area.

I have already continued from a previous save, so I'm further along in the game for now. I can check to see if this patch fixed the bad save, but I doubt I'll mess with the resaver considering I dont know what I'm doing with it anyway.

I'll update this post a little later and let you know what happens either way when I play. I'll also give my current save a bit of a stress test to see how it handles things.

 

Thanks for the patch.

 

Edit: So the patch did not fix the already broken save, but after playing for 90 minutes or so with a good save, there were no issues. I play at least a little almost every day so I'll let you know if anything happens.

Edited June 20, 2023 by serranna

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, ShadowofVenus said:

I'm having an issue where the neck turns invisible on argonians when equipping the hoods. I'm not sure if this affects khajiit or their male counterparts yet, but I will reply/edit this once I find out. 

 

What hood is that exactly?

 

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, DailyS said:

I've noticed that the rubber sounds don't seem to play anymore, even with the sound frequency set to Frequent. Does anyone else have this problem or know a solution?

 

Rubber sounds were made optional in 5.2 due to how annoying many of the beta testers found the new sounds. There should be a toggle or option in the DD MCM for them now.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, summerink said:

Hi guys,

 

I was wondering whether anyone could help me with a problem i've been having. I've only just converted to SE after years of modding with LE so there may well be a well known solution to this that i'm just not aware of.

 

I've been having a problem with DD devices where I immediately get a ctd when I try to equip the handcuffs or the prisoner chains. I've been trying to work out why for hours and I cannot, for the life of me, figure it out. I had a similar problem with LE a while back but reinstalled HDT physics and it sorted it straight away. No such luck here. I've triple checked all requirements, reinstalled DD and both HDT-SMP and Faster HDT, played with bodyslide settings a bunch (I've run FNIS every time obviously) but no luck. I'm having no issue with any other aspects and also the ZAZ cuffs are having no issue. I'm using the CBBE slim body if that helps in any way. Oh also I downgraded from AE back to SE 1.5.97.0 when I found out how much of a pain AE is to mod for.

 

If anyone has a solution to this I would be very grateful. 

 

That's an SMP issue. Either you don't have Faster HDT SMP installed, or it is installed correctly, or the prisoner chains hate you for some other reason I've not been able to track down.

If you have FSMP installed and working correctly for other things, then build the no HDT option for the chains in bodyslide. You don't need to rerun FNIS for this issue. 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, RoninDog said:

Is there any key that works with the slut collar or do you have to wear it until it unlocks by itself? I tried adding 3 head restraint keys, 3 restraint keys and kimy's key, but nothing worked. I might deactivate it because it's not that fun to play with, and theoretically you can just wait or sleep the time off. Actually playing with it is just RP.

 

That's DCL, not DD. You need to wear it for some random number of days between the min/max days settings without having sex. You can't wait through it. Not so sure on sleeping through it. Defaults are a minimum of 5 and a max of 20 days without sex. If there's a key option, it won't let you unlock it early, it just means you need a key to take it off after the no sex requirements are met.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, archerthegrey said:

new dd 5.2 items lacking brrf support
Also the heavy head harness that has existed for awhile now also lacks brrf and looks really terrible on beast races

 

BRRF is an option you select in the installer, so support is included if you installed correctly.

 

For the heavy head harness, if you can make something better, go for it. Otherwise that's what we have. Keep in mind development is in LE still, the SE/AE version is a conversion only.

Edited June 20, 2023 by zarantha

[VenusTrifecta]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

What hood is that exactly?

 

The black ebonite hood

[serranna]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

Either you don't have Faster HDT SMP installed, or it is installed correctly, or the prisoner chains hate you for some other reason I've not been able to track down.

 

To add further confusion to the issue I'm going to tell a story that makes no logical sense at all.

A while back I downloaded 2 follower mods off the nexus. Serah and Lightning from Final Fantasy 13. I'm not even sure if they're still on there or not.

I was using them for a while, but I eventually decided it was time to clean up some mods, and they were among the list chosen to uninstall.

Well after uninstalling those and a few other mods, my game suddenly started crashing. After some testing, I noted it was crashing every time the prisoner chains, and I think handcuffs? were getting equipped.

To make a long story short, lots of testing, uninstalling, and reinstalling later, I determined that it was those 2 follower mods I uninstalled that caused the prisoner chains to crash my game. I know it makes no sense, but when they are installed, everything works fine. When they are not, it crashes. New game, existing save, doesn't matter. I don't understand it, but all I know is that I have to have those 2 mods installed or everything breaks.

I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if some of the issues people are reporting started after they removed some mod that would seemingly have no impact on anything. I would recommend asking those who have had it working in the past but not now if they uninstalled anything recently.

[Tlam99]

28 minutes ago, serranna said:

New game, existing

New game means

Exit to desktop, close organizer, restart everything.

 

Chains are applied via quest. Quest items may stay as references in the memory. If you load a save, this reference still exists in a bad state.

DO NOT load saves without exiting to desktop !

 

Watch this

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by Tlam99

[serranna]

1 hour ago, Tlam99 said:

New game means

Exit to desktop, close organizer, restart everything.

 

Chains are applied via quest. Quest items may stay as references in the memory. If you load a save, this reference still exists in a bad state.

DO NOT load saves without exiting to desktop !

 

Watch this

 

That's very interesting info, but it still doesn't explain why the chains crash the game without the mods installed and do not crash the game with them installed. I'm literally doing the exact same thing every time I test it.

 

Now I'm curious if that bug applies to loading a different save as opposed to loading the same one. Like, if I just wanted to switch characters in the middle of playing, if the bug still kicks in.

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by serranna

[Tlam99]

25 minutes ago, serranna said:

switch characters

check the last entry here

 

 

[static69]

hello, 

this is my first time installing devious devices on special edition and with mod organizer. 

the game starts fine but if the character wears a devious device it turns invisible. Also inside the bodyslide application it shows the objects with the "no image" on it. I am using nolvus mod list and don't know what paths i need to change, because it seems that some directories are not correctly selected. Attached you can see some images which show the most important information. 

also for some reason the pet suit shows correctly. 

Thank you in advance!