Devious Devices SE

[EpicGamerGame]

On 5/22/2023 at 7:39 PM, zarantha said:

 

Are you trying on a new game?
Is anything overwriting DD?

What do you have for mod install order? Plugin order looks ok, although joy of perspective has caused CTDs in the past with DD.

I did start a new game, and I don't believe anything is overwriting DD. I'll take off JoP and see if that fixes anything.

[EpicGamerGame]

59 minutes ago, EpicGamerGame said:

I did start a new game, and I don't believe anything is overwriting DD. I'll take off JoP and see if that fixes anything.

That fixed it!

[zarantha]

Just an FYI:

 

I am aware of the new CBBE update that adds more sliders. I have no plans to update DD's CBBE bodyslides until Ousinous has finished adding all the new sliders, which they alluded to doing in a future version.

[Tron91]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

Just an FYI:

 

I am aware of the new CBBE update that adds more sliders. I have no plans to update DD's CBBE bodyslides until Ousinous has finished adding all the new sliders, which they alluded to doing in a future version.

 

Hmm, good to know. For now I will refrain from updating to the new CBBE then.

[zarantha]

52 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

 

Hmm, good to know. For now I will refrain from updating to the new CBBE then.

 

The screenshot below is from his discord. As long as your preset doesn't use the extra sliders, you shouldn't have any issue with morphs and would still get the other goodies. Now if someone makes a preset using the new sliders, that will cause mismatches in shape between the body and outfit. That said, when the next update does release, it will still take me a good amount of time to update all the outfits. Not looking forward to that!  

 

(This does not apply to 3BA users)

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by zarantha

[nerdyguy8]

I've run in to an issue, DD bound animation are not playing instead its just the games default idle. I run in to this issue before and fixed it by letting DD overwrite ZAZ. it did not work this time. I've tried reinstalling DD, ZAZ and FINS, running bodyslide again, double checking requirements. oh and this is running in vr.

[Equien]

is there a mod or a cheat that removes devices without going through all the ordeal? idc about roleplaying, and i'm playing with male characters and sometimes the devices don't look good or glitch and i want to take them out, i just want to equip and unequip like any other, and the chastity key rarely works

 

nvm I just found the restrains key console command, seems to be doing the job

Edited May 30, 2023 by Equien

[kodamant]

hey so its giving me the message of devious devices being outdated and hence disabled? do i ignore that or?

[Miauzi]

Vor 14 Minuten sagte Equien:

Gibt es einen Mod oder einen Cheat, der Geräte entfernt, ohne die ganze Tortur zu durchlaufen? Ich idc über Rollenspiele, und ich spiele mit männlichen Charakteren und manchmal sehen die Geräte nicht gut aus oder haben einen Defekt und ich möchte sie herausnehmen, ich möchte mich einfach wie alle anderen ausrüsten und ausrüsten, und der Keuschheitsschlüssel funktioniert selten

this mod will NOT move you or your game char any devices by itself.

you only get this through mods that BUILDING on this one

So which of these DD based mods are you using?

How do you get the devices?

Have you ever taken a closer look at the MCM - especially the first page!

[Gh0sTG0]

On 7/22/2020 at 1:30 AM, zarantha said:

Using DD 5.0 / 5.1 with DCL or Zaz?

1. If using DCL 8.5/8.4 and/or Zaz with DD 5.0: DCL-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204.7z
2. If using DCL 9.0 and Zaz: DCL 9.0 or higher overwrites "DCL-Zaz HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204.7z

Hi. Is this still needed with what named "ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023"?

[Icanlookatstuff]

I seem to be having an issue with all of the rope armbinders. They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.). My searches haven't brought up any similar issues to find a fix. All of the other rope items seem to be the correct colors as far as I've seen so far. I've tried rebuilding just the rope items in bodyslide but that didn't change anything. What can I do to get the armbinders to be their correct respective colors?

[serranna]

I'm hoping someone could help an idiot who can never keep a stable installation.

 

So I went ahead and officially upgraded to the newest DD. I somehow managed to create a few problems when doing so but I solved all (I think) but one.

 

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire. Only the ebonite ones. Leather ones are fine and other ebonite gear is fine. When I put one on, the screen starts a light show of white light and I can't see anything while the item is supposed to be on screen. Every other item I have tried (so far at least) looks just fine.

 

Spoiler

 

The item looks fine in the menu, and it looks fine when I look at it in outfit studio, just not when worn by a character. I have rerun bodyslide to no effect. Does anyone know what could be causing this? @zarantha? Sorry to ping you but you know everything. I'm assuming it's something dumb I'm doing.

 

I really dont want to have to reinstall DD. The uninstall/reinstall process takes a good 40-45 minutes on my PC.

 

Edit: maybe some other insight/clue as to what might be the problem? I was wrong about leather armbinders. They don't cause the visual glitch, but all the leather armbinders look like black armbinders. The screenshot below won't show it but the leather texture also looks slightly different than it normally does. Either way you can see white armbinder equipped but black showing on the character.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited May 31, 2023 by serranna
Added more info

[Equien]

18 hours ago, Miauzi said:

this mod will NOT move you or your game char any devices by itself.

you only get this through mods that BUILDING on this one

So which of these DD based mods are you using?

How do you get the devices?

Have you ever taken a closer look at the MCM - especially the first page!

 

i use devious interests, but mostly I just use console commands to give me the devices, so the restrain key work to get rid of them so far. so it's all good

[zarantha]

On 5/29/2023 at 8:45 PM, nerdyguy8 said:

I've run in to an issue, DD bound animation are not playing instead its just the games default idle. I run in to this issue before and fixed it by letting DD overwrite ZAZ. it did not work this time. I've tried reinstalling DD, ZAZ and FINS, running bodyslide again, double checking requirements. oh and this is running in vr.

 

If you are using nemesis too, you can use the unsupported DAR conversion on the troubleshooting post. otherwise, remove nemesis, reinstall DD and FNIS and rerun FNIS.

 

If you don't have nemesis, delete your fnis output folder, make sure your skyrim data folder is clean (delete data and reverify if you have to) and rerun fnis.

If it's still a problem remove all your mods except DD and it's requirements and test on a new game.

Edited May 31, 2023 by zarantha

[zarantha]

21 hours ago, kodamant said:

hey so its giving me the message of devious devices being outdated and hence disabled? do i ignore that or?

 

Make sure you did not install the old LE mods on top of this one. DD SE 5.2 contains DDa, DDi, DDx, DDc, DD for Him, DD BRRF. If ANY of those are installed separately, remove them.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, Gh0sTG0 said:

Hi. Is this still needed with what named "ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023"?

 

Are you on DD 5.0 or 5.1?

It's not needed with DD 5.2.

 

If you're asking about the chains in ZAZ, I don't know if ZAZ has been updated with the SMP fixes in that patch. Go ask on that page.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Icanlookatstuff said:

I seem to be having an issue with all of the rope armbinders. They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.). My searches haven't brought up any similar issues to find a fix. All of the other rope items seem to be the correct colors as far as I've seen so far. I've tried rebuilding just the rope items in bodyslide but that didn't change anything. What can I do to get the armbinders to be their correct respective colors?

 

Are you on 3ba? There's a bodyslide patch on the troubleshooting post. 

Beyond that, make sure you have engine fixes installed and working. it fixes some issues with texture swapping iirc.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, serranna said:

I'm hoping someone could help an idiot who can never keep a stable installation.

 

So I went ahead and officially upgraded to the newest DD. I somehow managed to create a few problems when doing so but I solved all (I think) but one.

 

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire. Only the ebonite ones. Leather ones are fine and other ebonite gear is fine. When I put one on, the screen starts a light show of white light and I can't see anything while the item is supposed to be on screen. Every other item I have tried (so far at least) looks just fine.

 

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The item looks fine in the menu, and it looks fine when I look at it in outfit studio, just not when worn by a character. I have rerun bodyslide to no effect. Does anyone know what could be causing this? @zarantha? Sorry to ping you but you know everything. I'm assuming it's something dumb I'm doing.

 

I really dont want to have to reinstall DD. The uninstall/reinstall process takes a good 40-45 minutes on my PC.

 

Edit: maybe some other insight/clue as to what might be the problem? I was wrong about leather armbinders. They don't cause the visual glitch, but all the leather armbinders look like black armbinders. The screenshot below won't show it but the leather texture also looks slightly different than it normally does. Either way you can see white armbinder equipped but black showing on the character.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

I vaugely remember something similar during the beta, but i couldn't reproduce or fixed it. Make sure your racemenu is as up to date as your skyrim version will allow, and bodyslide and outfit studio are up to date. Probably need to make sure FSMP isn't a really old version too. 

 

Try going in and out of first person.

 

If you're on 3ba, make sure you grab the bodyslide patch on the troubleshooting post. 

 

If it's still a problem, you could try pulling the bodyslide folder out of the old 5.1 archive or early 5.2 beta, install them as a new mod, build the armbinders and elbowbinders, then remove the old bodyslide files from your install once they're built. What changed is there are now zaps for the lacings, and some other oddness from someone redoing the meshes in blender or whereever. But for me, it was just doing some stretching between the hands until the pose was applied, and i don't even see that anymore.

[krzp]

After getting a permission from the author himself @iivanvv, here's a little add-on to the DD to DAR conversion with some new shiny petsuit animations.

 

You still need the main file!

Load the add-on after DD to DAR, or you won't get the updated walking ... ehm, crawling animations, only the new jumping ones.

(or you can just merge the two, it's totally up to you)

 

Here's the version converted to OAR

 

 

DD_DAR_more_petsuit_animations_by_iivanvv.7z

Edited August 16, 2023 by krzp

[Elsidia]

8 hours ago, Icanlookatstuff said:

They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.).

 

3 hours ago, serranna said:

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire.

 

31 minutes ago, zarantha said:

I vaugely remember something similar during the beta, but i couldn't reproduce or fixed it. M

Only theoretical fix is: install latest bodyslide mod. I'm not tested it, but seems this is only solution. I can't install latest bodyslide as i will lost all my work. Or if not latest bodyslide, then like as bodyslide, what zarantha have. I don't have know what number of bodyslide have zarantha.

[serranna]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

What changed is there are now zaps for the lacings,

 

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Only theoretical fix is: install latest bodyslide mod.

 

So yeah, this was it. I was using a very old version of bodyslide, one that didnt support the zaps. Upgraded to newest version of bodyslide and the ebonite armbinders work fine. Safe to say if anyone else mentions this problem, this should be the recommended fix.

 

It did not fix the issue of all leather armbinder color variations showing up as black armbinders though. Things showing up as the wrong color crops up in a few other places too, like in the straitjacket catsuits, the straitjacket part is the right color but the catsuit part will always be black. As long as everything works now I'm happy, but if there is any insight as to what I could do about that I'm game.

 

Thanks, the game is back to being playable!

[Elsidia]

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one that didn't support the zaps

48 minutes ago, serranna said:

part is the right color but the catsuit part will always be black.

Can you name full name of problem items or id? I will check in my game and in xedit to found, if there is problem.

 

hmm.... not sure this is real problem (i'd say problem is in weighting as old bodyslide not apply new weights, but will check in outfitstudio, if i can fix this by removing zaps).

Edited May 31, 2023 by Elsidia

[Miauzi]

Vor 6 Stunden sagte Equien:

 

Ich verwende hinterhältige Interessen, aber meistens verwende ich nur Konsolenbefehle, um mir die Geräte zu geben, sodass die Zurückhaltungstaste bisher funktioniert, um sie loszuwerden. also ist alles gut

Well - console commands is like "cheating" - is not forbidden, but then you should also know what the game mechanics are like for the devices used.
(I do it myself for my own roll-play)

So I repeat my advice -> look at the first page of the MCM.

[Isel]

On 5/26/2023 at 4:41 PM, Failiks1 said:

Hello, I need help with animations, I've been trying to solve it for a long time but nothing comes out. When moving in combat mode or attacking with a hand restrain, the hands go beyond the limit and begin to behave like normal fists, while normal movement and attacking in stealth mode behave normally. I tried deleting saves, game data, looking for various files related to skyrim or this mod, deleting all mods, all this together and much more. I'll be completely resetting the drive soon, but I'd be interested to know what the problem might be if that doesn't help or if it doesn't happen again. I probably already wrote about this problem somewhere, but a very long time ago and since that moment I have not found a solution.

Hello all, thank you for the mod and your hard work! So I 'm having this problem as well, but in reverse - standing still and attacking does not run the armbinder animation in most armbinders including shackles, however boxbinders and straitjackets function properly, and moving with 'weapons drawn' does play the correct arms-behind-back animation.

 

The ZBF armbinder DOES function properly so I am confident in saying the game knows the animation and what is supposed to happen. It also knows to unequip weapons, so the game knows hands are tied, it just won't run the correct animations. Yokes are also broken aside from the ZBF Yoke Metal Black that I tested, as are petsuits. Granted, I have no idea how petsuits should animate, but the model just stands there and walks slowly.

 

The DD function 'enable bound fighting' to get you kicking doesn't appear to influence the animation, it just causes you to not be able to raise your fists.

 

I have tried this with a regular 'armbinder' and with 'ebonite armbinders'; somewhere in the LE thread someone said one should test wit h I have tried reinstalling DD and Sexlab multiple times; i've tried FNISsing before -and- after CBBE. I've run with and without HDT, i've run with large modlist and a small one to no avail.

What am I missing? The troubleshooting is fun, but my ideas have run out and I've been at this for a couple of days now, so please help :')

 

I have a number of screenshots to illustrate the problem, and have a modlist and FNIS rundown.

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm

Dragonborn.esm
ccbgssse001-fish.esm
ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
ccbgssse037-curios.esl
ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISspells.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
DD - BRRF_Patch - Cursed Loot.esp (turned off)
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

MCMHelper.esp
Particle Patch for ENB.esp
UIExtensions.esp

 

Address Library for SKSE Plugins
ConsoleUtilSSE
PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
powerofthree's Papyrus Extender
Mfg Fix

 

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FNIS Behavior V7.6   31/05/2023 09:58:35
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.640.0 - E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading DD V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...
Reading DDC V1.2 ...
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 41 total groups: 194 added file slots: 1499 alternate files: 1245

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...

 4882 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character)

 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included.

 0 possible consistence issues

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2023 by Isel
Corrected modlist

[serranna]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Can you name full name of problem items or id? I will check in my game and in xedit to found, if there is problem.

 

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First one is the straitjacket dress "open" the second one is the topless straitjacket dress. The third one is the straitjacket catsuit, the fourth one is the straitjacket catsuit "open" and the fifth is the straitjacket catsuit topless. I'm sure it's something messed up with my setup and that nobody else is seeing this in particular. I've has this visual issue since the previous release of DD, so this is not new. All the leather armbinders showing up as black is new. That just started when I upgraded from a beta I was running on to the newest official release just today. yes, I reran bodyslide when I upgraded to the newest version.

 

The last picture shows a problem I see with all my straitjackets. There is a gap between where the sleeve meets the body on every one of them. That's also been happening for a while.