Devious Devices SE

[Miauzi]

Vor 39 Minuten sagte Pippin8:

Ich habe versucht, nur die Armbinde anzuziehen, und es ist dasselbe. Hände verschwinden und Arme gehen nicht dorthin, wo sie hin sollen. Also ja, Sie haben höchstwahrscheinlich Recht, das Problem ist die fehlende Animation. Gag funktioniert zum Beispiel auch und Manschetten, aber Armbinder sind ziemlich wichtig, damit viele Mods gut funktionieren. kein guter mann

go back to page 306 - the post on 31.4. by user @elsidien

there you will find some hints

the link in my previous post leads to a fix

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I run the mod under Skyrim SE myself - and it took a while until I figured out the "trick" with the animations (FNIS).

if you are new to complex mods...

..it takes time and, above all, a lot of patience to get used to it - especially since there are now 3 different versions of Skyrim, all of which require mods adapted to them

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, pippin8 said:

disabling random idles mods hands are still missing

Not help as you need remove those mods and rebuild FNIS animations.

Sometimes need reinstall DD and DCL and rebuild FNIS animations.

Not work with Nemesis. After uninstall Nemesis 100% need reinstall FNIS, DD and DCL.

[kayocey]

Does DD work with that High poly head? -gags and whatnots?

[Zaflis]

29 minutes ago, kaiteyc said:

Does DD work with that High poly head? -gags and whatnots?

If you morph it a little in racemenu then maybe? Head slot items do not conform to any skeleton bones, head only has 1 anyway.

[pippin8]

14 hours ago, Miauzi said:

go back to page 306 - the post on 31.4. by user @elsidien

there you will find some hints

the link in my previous post leads to a fix

--

I run the mod under Skyrim SE myself - and it took a while until I figured out the "trick" with the animations (FNIS).

if you are new to complex mods...

..it takes time and, above all, a lot of patience to get used to it - especially since there are now 3 different versions of Skyrim, all of which require mods adapted to them

did all that as suggested and still not working. what surprises me the most is that it used to work just fine a few months ago, and all of a sudden i got this problem which i dont know how to fix. if you have any other ideas would be grateful. Maybe I will switch to oldrim or just give up on devious devices and play without em, but again that wouldnt be a good option as many other decent mods rely heavily on dd.

[hakto]

What's thoughts about new Toys? Will it be some compatibility patches in future or smth like that?

 

Sorry if it was already asked/disscused, I didn't find this in a recent messages

[safado]

5 hours ago, hakto said:

What's thoughts about new Toys? Will it be some compatibility patches in future or smth like that?

 

Sorry if it was already asked/disscused, I didn't find this in a recent messages

 

That a question for that mod forum.  Start looking here and here

 

Edited April 26, 2022 by safado

[hakto]

7 hours ago, safado said:

 

That a question for that mod forum.  Start looking here and here

 

I saw this. I want to discuss\ask opinion, plans for DD develompent considering new Toys. 

[InsanityFactor]

Hi guys, I have the ancient bug of armbinders and other DD restraints not playing their animations when equipped.

 

Armbinders, manacles, hobble dresses, none of them replace the walking animation, it just plays the vanilla one no matter what. Oddly enough, Zaz wrist restraints will play properly, and gags from DD will do the mouth animation properly too.

 

Here is my load order, I took off everything I could think of and just have the essentials running, still nothing. loadorder.txt

 

FNIS shows no issues, I've tried different devices, I've toggled off the "override if needed" option in Zaz MCM, but nothing seems to work. I'm really out of ideas at this point, hoping someone can diagnose this. It's worth noting that Skyrim Chainbeasts doesn't work either, the walking animations from that mod also can't assert themselves, but again Zaz is able to do it somehow...

 

I've used DD in the past with no problem, so this just appeared somewhat recently and I can't figure out what the hell it is.

 

Thanks to anyone who can help.

[Miauzi]

Vor 9 Stunden sagte InsanityFactor:

Hallo Leute, ich habe den uralten Fehler, dass Armbinder und andere DD-Fesseln ihre Animationen nicht abspielen, wenn sie ausgerüstet sind.

 

Armbinder, Handschellen, Humpelkleider, nichts davon ersetzt die Laufanimation, es spielt einfach die Vanille-Animation, egal was passiert. Seltsamerweise werden Zaz-Handgelenkfesseln richtig abgespielt, und Gags von DD machen auch die Mundanimation richtig.

 

Hier ist mein Ladebefehl, ich habe alles abgenommen, was ich mir vorstellen konnte, und habe nur das Nötigste am Laufen, immer noch nichts. loadorder.txt

 

FNIS zeigt keine Probleme, ich habe verschiedene Geräte ausprobiert, ich habe die Option „Bei Bedarf überschreiben“ in Zaz MCM deaktiviert, aber nichts scheint zu funktionieren. Ich bin wirklich aus Ideen an diesem Punkt, in der Hoffnung, dass jemand dies diagnostizieren kann. Es ist erwähnenswert, dass Skyrim Chainbeasts auch nicht funktioniert, die Laufanimationen aus diesem Mod können sich auch nicht durchsetzen, aber Zaz kann es wieder irgendwie ...

 

Ich habe DD in der Vergangenheit ohne Probleme verwendet, also ist dies erst vor kurzem aufgetaucht und ich kann nicht herausfinden, was zum Teufel es ist.

 

Danke an alle, die helfen können.

If something works and then no longer works, there must be a reason...
..with mods for a game it is usually an attempt to install another mod which then messes up the structure of the previous mods.
And as the user @elsidien wrote a few posts above (on this thread page) - deactivating it is no longer enough.
Then you have to uninstall and reinstall - including DD and FNIS

[pippin8]

any ideas what could be wrong, please? 

 

Spoiler

 

Edited April 27, 2022 by pippin8

[Denizen Is Disturbed]

Alright, I love the mod, especially coming back to it, but I still for the life of me still don't know how to get the male side of the gear to work/load in the game. Is there a setting in the MCM I am missing, or is it something else? I did a triple check on LOOT and the plugins for For Him and beast races and that is in correct order.

 

I mostly play male characters and would like to find out what I am doing wrong and the fix for it (like is there a setting in Bodyslide for male bodies?) I hope this is the right place to ask, and I did read through it but that's the only thing I feel is wrong (besides the HDT versions of beast race gags not working, then again I don't use those versions anyway). I will continue searching for an answer on my own but I'd like to hear any solutions that work!

 

Edit: So following the instructions regarding to Bodyslide, I checked for any male outfits (god I hope I'm not sounding like a total idiot), and didn't see any, unless I am meant to get a CBBE preset for males to work (which I have Tempered for Males). I saw none there, so I don't think that Bodyslide manages those, so basically I'm still confused. If someone can help me to stop flopping like a fish at the Riften Docks that would be MUCH appreciated!

Edited April 28, 2022 by Denizen Is Disturbed

[csacskamacska]

Hi...

I wonder what it means: the ... WT and WTE

* what do you shorten?

WT-Leather Panel Gag 

WTE Panel Gag

 

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Érdekelne, mit jelent a : WT és WTE

* Minek a rövidítése?

[safado]

5 hours ago, csacskamacska said:

Hi...

I wonder what it means: the ... WT and WTE

* what do you shorten?

WT-Leather Panel Gag 

WTE Panel Gag

 

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Érdekelne, mit jelent a : WT és WTE

* Minek a rövidítése?

 

If you mean the names of the assets in the form table "Armor Add-on"(ARMA), the names with WT means is White and WTE is White "Ebonite". Also, WTL means White Leather.  Similar applies to RD (red) variations.

 

 

 

[csacskamacska]

No I do not think so...  "Devious Devices - Expansion" and "DD - Assets"

We needed a unified wording for data management ...

Appearance is also important and there is no need for a variety of expression stunts in the handler....

 

Spoiler

Spoiler

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Nem, nem hiszem... "Fondorlatos Eszközök - Kiterjesztés" 

Egységes fogalmazás kellett az adatkezeléshez...

 

Ha össze-vissza vannak fogalmazva a részek, akkor az eléggé zavaros.  "Fondorlatos Eszközök - Eszközök"

A külalak is fontos de a kezelőben sincs szükség sokféle kifejezési mutatványra.

 

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Внешний вид также важен, и в обработчике нет необходимости  в разнообразных трюках ... "с выразительный трюк".  

[Elsidia]

On 4/28/2022 at 5:06 AM, Denizen Is Disturbed said:

(like is there a setting in Bodyslide for male bodies?)

Male bodies don't have bodyslide files as there no male bodyslide body. if you have mod what does it, then you need made own bodyslides files.

In mod part for him are build inside all necessary meshes for default male body and are inside bsa file - example:

Spoiler

 

[Denizen Is Disturbed]

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Male bodies don't have bodyslide files as there no male bodyslide body. if you have mod what does it, then you need made own bodyslides files.

In mod part for him are build inside all necessary meshes for default male body and are inside bsa file - example:

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Ah I see, I did read and get that now. My issue now becomes why they aren't showing up in game? I made sure my character gender was set as male on everything, but I haven't seen anything yet for that. Are they exclusive to things within the mod I haven't seen yet? Of course if it's obvious I am so sorry for being dumb, but I just need to know what I might have done wrong or if I need to fix something to make it work. Also, you are like super helpful, MUCH appreciated!

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Denizen Is Disturbed said:

Are they exclusive to things within the mod I haven't seen yet?

Not at all But if you have only DD 5.1, then this is framework and not equip DD items. Those items are the same for males and females. it check the gender of player and equip female version if you are female or male version if you are male You can learn perk for craft those items. Also if you have DCL you can buy those items from Kimy   Dollmaker (i mess up with DD Fallout version)) . There more are dress (don't know if those works with from him or catsuits (probably works) Also not sure if traps trigger if you are male. DCL itself not good compatible with For him as there unique models can be only for women as not change inside a DCL male part model.  Also you can spawn any DD item in console and wear it to check if it works. Not sure but For him plugin must load after main DD plugins if i remember correct. i don't have installed plugin For him so can't say how it works. Also my mod list is strict so i can't install For him not to break things for me.

Best thing to test how it works is spawn by console or use mods what sells DD items or are made for use with For him.  Laura Bondage shop sells DD items as Dollmaker from DCL so there can found items what can be wear for men.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Elsidia

[Denizen Is Disturbed]

15 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Not at all But if you have only DD 5.1, then this is framework and not equip DD items. Those items are the same for males and females. it check the gender of player and equip female version if you are female or male version if you are male You can learn perk for craft those items. Also if you have DCL you can buy those items from Kimy   Dollmaker (i mess up with DD Fallout version)) . There more are dress (don't know if those works with from him or catsuits (probably works) Also not sure if traps trigger if you are male. DCL itself not good compatible with For him as there unique models can be only for women as not change inside a DCL male part model.  Also you can spawn any DD item in console and wear it to check if it works. Not sure but For him plugin must load after main DD plugins if i remember correct. i don't have installed plugin For him so can't say how it works. Also my mod list is strict so i can't install For him not to break things for me.

Best thing to test how it works is spawn by console or use mods what sells DD items or are made for use with For him.  Laura Bondage shop sells DD items as Dollmaker from DCL so there can found items what can be wear for men.

Okay I see. I did notice that there are some things that don't work for males (which tbh I don't really mind as I am not one for immersion), I just was wondering if it's normal for those pieces to not spawn naturally. I can confirm that the bondage gear works for males, but none of the combat gear afaik. I did check again and I got For Him loaded after the main files (also I do have the BRR plugin and followed those instructions regarding load order). Right now I'm doing the courier quest for Dollmaker, so when i complete that I will check out the inventory and update this post if it's all in good working order. I appreciate the help you've been giving me, thank you again!

 

Edit: So I looked into the Dollmaker's inventory and it seems that none of the male bondage gear is in her shop (cockrings, male version of chastity belt, etc.) Would this be a load order issue, or maybe its my character's preferred sex? If not then I'll take a gander at the MCMs again and triple check everything (for this character) is set to male stuff. Once again, I thank you SO much for your time in helping me Elsidia lol, when I first started I didn't get much help and I am not used to actually getting to understand this (and being gone for 6 months did not help either!)

Edited April 30, 2022 by Denizen Is Disturbed

[Elsidia]

7 hours ago, Denizen Is Disturbed said:

So I looked into the Dollmaker's inventory

I looked more carefully into DCL - most of dresses use original DD armor addon those those will replaced with male versions. Only newmiller dresses aren't made for men so those will be disabled. Try buy from Dollmaker dress type gown - as i found it have armor addon from DD and probably have male meshes. Also some catsuit can without male meshes as those use models from DCL so only to make it you need rewrite DCL esp to got those models. DCUR catsuit too use models from DCL so there must made compatibility plugin or rewrite DCL esp.

As about chastity belt those uses female versions as for males are bump in that place. So belts must work from shop.  i don't see meshes of cockrings in DD maybe this is added by other mods.

About traps - while you are in The bound of skyrim quest line traps are disabled so it can be test only after complete some quests in that line -> Check DCL MCM Debug Active quest running ->true - when there is false you can trigger traps and see how it works.

[Denizen Is Disturbed]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I looked more carefully into DCL - most of dresses use original DD armor addon those those will replaced with male versions. Only newmiller dresses aren't made for men so those will be disabled. Try buy from Dollmaker dress type gown - as i found it have armor addon from DD and probably have male meshes. Also some catsuit can without male meshes as those use models from DCL so only to make it you need rewrite DCL esp to got those models. DCUR catsuit too use models from DCL so there must made compatibility plugin or rewrite DCL esp.

As about chastity belt those uses female versions as for males are bump in that place. So belts must work from shop.  i don't see meshes of cockrings in DD maybe this is added by other mods.

About traps - while you are in The bound of skyrim quest line traps are disabled so it can be test only after complete some quests in that line -> Check DCL MCM Debug Active quest running ->true - when there is false you can trigger traps and see how it works.

Okay gotcha. I did some looking around myself too and it seems I would need a male device mod for that (was looking at ViVi's but I don't have the time to do the transfer from LE to SE and since they are making an SE version soon I'll wait for that). I also did notice that bound in skyrim quest didn't disable traps for females even with that quest running active > true on (i think. Ill look into it with the male characters). Otherwise that pretty much answers everything I was looking into for now (and hopefully for a while too!) Thank you so much Elsidia, much appreciated!

[Itsjustgary]

Out of curiosity, does this contain all of the dd files (dd integration, dd expansion)

[Elsidia]

16 minutes ago, Denizen Is Disturbed said:

that bound in skyrim quest didn't disable traps for females even with that quest running active > true on

No you are wrong. I play with female character and traps are disabled.

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Itsjustgary said:

Out of curiosity, does this contain all of the dd files (dd integration, dd expansion)

DDA, DDI DDX, DDC, BRRF, For Him

[raexoxo]

hi someone help, chains, and bondage won't appear ingame only the collar. i ran fnis and built dd using bodyslide. i'm thinking it has to do with load order but idk what could be wrong.

 

(i already moved xpmse to the bottom and locked it)

 

i notice that the modding community can be rude so please do not respond if you know you're going to be rude, i'm just trying to get help from people who know about this since i am a newbie. thanks.