Devious Devices SE

[Elsidia]

4 hours ago, Ragatokk said:

Looks like naked animation holding hands in front of the boobs + invisible hands + empty armbinder.

You use boobs cover animation what not from DCL or DD? if yes it's probably overwrite armbinder animation. Any mod what add new idle animations for player. Example FNiS sex move, but this mod not use boobs cover animation, because probably not guilty. Only as example.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, Heulsuze said:

 

Good News. But... as i looked inside the attachment-files (UUNP DD Binders and Heretical SE 2.7z), I still see the same as before:

 

DD Binders UUNP.osp [2021-03-12]
...
<OutputFile GenWeights="false">FT_ArmbinderElbow_1</OutputFile>
...

 

Do you miss to update the archive, maybe? ?

 

Sigh, no I zipped up the wrong file...

Try again please?

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, jd210 said:

I have it installed, for some time now. Nothing changed, the problem persists.

 

Is it installed correctly? MFG fix requires Address Library.

 

do you see the dll loading in your skse log?

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log

 

While High Poly will change the head shape and things may not match correctly, it shouldn't prevent the mouth from opening while gagged. I'm currently using it too.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Is it installed correctly? MFG fix requires Address Library.

 

do you see the dll loading in your skse log?

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log

 

While High Poly will change the head shape and things may not match correctly, it shouldn't prevent the mouth from opening while gagged. I'm currently using it too.

I have Address Library installed along with MFG fix. The dll is loading. I am not sure what else to check.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

DD gag system uses standard face morphs, mfgfix fixes facegen morph problems. High poly head uses morphs, maybe modify morphs. Yes it can be general problem of closed mouth because DD calls wrong morph or modified morph, what not works in that way.

I give 80% probability that guilty is that mod.

I think that could be the culprit, everything else checks out.

[YojimboRatchet]

ok, i'm finally considering biting the bullet and doing the full upgrade, i need to know ahead of time, what the changes are like (any items no longer in 5.1 that were in 4.3, 3BBB support, patches and fixes, known bugs...)

 

the big thing i need to know, is what mods are known to not work with 5.1 that do with 4.3. specifically, Deviously Enslaved, DFW, immerslave, consumer alternate starts, city bondage, captured dreams SE, hydra slavergirls, and devious cidhna, as these are some of the main mods i consider essential in my game play.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, YojimboRatchet said:

ok, i'm finally considering biting the bullet and doing the full upgrade, i need to know ahead of time, what the changes are like (any items no longer in 5.1 that were in 4.3, 3BBB support, patches and fixes, known bugs...)

 

the big thing i need to know, is what mods are known to not work with 5.1 that do with 4.3. specifically, Deviously Enslaved, DFW, immerslave, consumer alternate starts, city bondage, captured dreams SE, hydra slavergirls, and devious cidhna, as these are some of the main mods i consider essential in my game play.

 

DD 5.1 didn't remove devices, it just added them. 3BBB has not been updated for the new outfits yet. Patches are on troubleshooting post still. There's missing textures if you *don't* use DCL, you're fine if you *do* use it.  If you use UNP, I screwed up heretic and the new arm/elbowbinders bodyslides, updates to that are there too. Patches for SLIF are available there too.

 

Most of those mods, you'll need to test yourself or someone else will need to chime in.

 

Captured Dreams we don't expect to work since it was compatible with DD 3.x and never actually upgraded to DD 4.x (yes I know the patch but that's script only and not enough - the items themselves need updated). Captured Dreams has also been removed and I don't think there's an update on if the author was going to remake or not. See this thread for more info, I don't recommend you continue using it. If you do, it's at your own risk, no one is supporting it.

 

Consumer alternate starts works. That's only an indirect tie to DD and doesn't depend on it. Devious cidhna is in my mod list, but i haven't gotten there yet. I don't use the others, and in the absence of other people complaining about them, I assume they work. I would recommend you check and ask on those mod pages.

[Guest]

made a torrent to download without mega

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z.torrent

[Church the Cat]

Greetings, friends. ??
I use UUNP HDT with Bodyslide and am curious which UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping? I'm currently using a custom preset made by myself, but am ready to sacrifice my beautiful THICC bottom-heavy bodied goddesses in exchange for not seeing skin clipping through chastity belts, bras, boots and gloves. I prefer big butts with C-DD breasts, but will consider any presets with minimal clipping.

Thanks, for reading. ?

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, Church the Cat said:

UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping?

If you are expert user of outfitstudio, you can use any preset. To prevent chastity belts clipping with butts, you need copy on that belts UUNP HDT bones what is used in UUNP HDT. Then belts will moves with body and no clipping i think. I use HDT SMP bouncy physics and by copyping bones what's need for bounce to CBBE outfits, it's stop clipping. Also some DCL stockings clip without bones but when you add bones (carefully) it's stop clipping. Also new UUNP sliders must copy too, to make belts enlarge, delarge in bodyslide, when choose a preset.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, Church the Cat said:

Greetings, friends. ??
I use UUNP HDT with Bodyslide and am curious which UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping? I'm currently using a custom preset made by myself, but am ready to sacrifice my beautiful THICC bottom-heavy bodied goddesses in exchange for not seeing skin clipping through chastity belts, bras, boots and gloves. I prefer big butts with C-DD breasts, but will consider any presets with minimal clipping.

Thanks, for reading. ?

 

These are the LE UNP bodyslides, so they should contain just about every UNP preset out there. The only thing I did was add the arm and elbowbinders bodyslides. Whatever you see in bodyslide as default from this mod. Try flipping through a few of them and see what's closest to your custom preset. Or just use outfit studio to fix the clipping for your preset.

Multiselect all meshes, including the reference shape (add reference shape if there isn't one) then do Slider -> Load Preset. Once your preset is loaded, you can use the inflate/deflate brushes to adjust the mesh. Any outfit studio tutorial should be able to help after the preset is loaded.

 

Spoiler

Add reference - this is the body you based your preset on. So UUNP HDT for you. Some bodies will already have a reference, you don't need to add it for those.

 

 

 

Now add your preset. Multiselect everything here:

 

 

 

Preset is now ready to check for clipping:

 

These should be mostly what you use, but play around with the others if they aren't enough.

From left to right: Inflate, deflate, smooth

 

 

When you're done, save the project. If you save the project with a different name, it shouldn't be overwritten when there's updates to the mod.

 

[Xelonore]

So I'm coming back to Skyrim modding after a long break. I reinstalled DD and none of the textures are appearing in game. I have been into Bodyslide and Batch Built everything, I have previewed the devices in Body slide and seen that they do not have textures. How do I go about fixing this?

[zarantha]

8 minutes ago, Xelonore said:

So I'm coming back to Skyrim modding after a long break. I reinstalled DD and none of the textures are appearing in game. I have been into Bodyslide and Batch Built everything, I have previewed the devices in Body slide and seen that they do not have textures. How do I go about fixing this?

 

They should have textures. check to make sure bodyslide is set up correctly and that you're running it through your mod manager.

 

mini troubleshooting steps for bodyslide on the troubleshooting post.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

 

[Xelonore]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

They should have textures. check to make sure bodyslide is set up correctly and that you're running it through your mod manager.

 

mini troubleshooting steps for bodyslide on the troubleshooting post.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

 

 

Just checked through my bodyslide installation and everything seems to be working correctly. Every other mod is working as intended however most of DD expansion seems to be completely transparent when it is equipped. I have installed the DD texture patch from the link you provided to no avail either.

[Church the Cat]

15 hours ago, Elsidia said:

If you are expert user of outfitstudio, you can use any preset. To prevent chastity belts clipping with butts, you need copy on that belts UUNP HDT bones what is used in UUNP HDT. Then belts will moves with body and no clipping i think. I use HDT SMP bouncy physics and by copyping bones what's need for bounce to CBBE outfits, it's stop clipping. Also some DCL stockings clip without bones but when you add bones (carefully) it's stop clipping. Also new UUNP sliders must copy too, to make belts enlarge, delarge in bodyslide, when choose a preset.

 

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

These are the LE UNP bodyslides, so they should contain just about every UNP preset out there. The only thing I did was add the arm and elbowbinders bodyslides. Whatever you see in bodyslide as default from this mod. Try flipping through a few of them and see what's closest to your custom preset. Or just use outfit studio to fix the clipping for your preset.

Multiselect all meshes, including the reference shape (add reference shape if there isn't one) then do Slider -> Load Preset. Once your preset is loaded, you can use the inflate/deflate brushes to adjust the mesh. Any outfit studio tutorial should be able to help after the preset is loaded.

 

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Add reference - this is the body you based your preset on. So UUNP HDT for you. Some bodies will already have a reference, you don't need to add it for those.

 

 

 

Now add your preset. Multiselect everything here:

 

 

 

Preset is now ready to check for clipping:

 

These should be mostly what you use, but play around with the others if they aren't enough.

From left to right: Inflate, deflate, smooth

 

 

When you're done, save the project. If you save the project with a different name, it shouldn't be overwritten when there's updates to the mod.

 

Thanks, for the advice. But, I am still very much a novice with Bodyslide and Outfit Studio. Even with both of your guys' guidance, I would most likely just end up breaking something in-game, trying to do it myself.

[Elsidia]

14 hours ago, Xelonore said:

seems to be completely transparent

This says, that you don't have textures problem. Full transparent means, that you don't build meshes into bodyslide and then all is 100% transparent. Screenshot will be good. Also transparent can be mean that you can't equip a dd restraint by broken scripts.

In reality it's not transparent but only not equip new items.

 

[Xelonore]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This says, that you don't have textures problem. Full transparent means, that you don't build meshes into bodyslide and then all is 100% transparent. Screenshot will be good. Also transparent can be mean that you can't equip a dd restraint by broken scripts.

In reality it's not transparent but only not equip new items.

 

 

More than happy to try building the morphs for what feels like the 100th time. First screenshot is showing I'm actually building the morphs, second showing there's no textures in the preview, and third showing there's textures in the menus, 4th showing no textures when equipped. And then a fifth to prove that stuff from DDI+DDA are working, it's just DDX.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, Xelonore said:

second showing there's no textures in the preview,

Check path textures\devious\devices\kimy_eb.dds for kimy_eb.dds

If you use MO2 check if you activate textures folder.

Or reinstall mod, it's damaged. Or some of your mods delete textures.

[Xelonore]

42 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Check path textures\devious\devices\kimy_eb.dds for kimy_eb.dds

If you use MO2 check if you activate textures folder.

Or reinstall mod, it's damaged. Or some of your mods delete textures.

kimy_eb.dds is present, I've activated the textures folder, and I have already reinstalled the mod twice, both to no changes. 

[unmog]

I was wondering something, is there a way to change the hobble walk/bunny hop option for the hobble dresses without having to reinstall all of Devious Devices? If anything I wish that was an option in the MCM somewhere instead of an option you choose when installing it.

[volcomday90]

On 3/31/2021 at 6:04 AM, keitsoru said:

So part of Nemesis's files include behavior templates. Basically, from my understanding, these tell Nemesis how it should generate behaviors for different animation types, etc. (I have zero technical understanding of behavior generation, so  you'll need to talk with ShikyoKira about what they actually do.)

The folder is your Nemesis directory > Nemesis_Engine > behavior templates.

On the main page of ShikyoKira's Github for Nemesis, they also have the core files. In these core files (not the archive you download containing the tool itself. These are basically files that include the developer's build of the engine) is a folder labeled test environment. Now, if I recall, the last time ShikyoKira updated this build was in May of 2020. Inside test environment, there is a folder called behavior templates, as well.

So, inside the archive, the directory will be Project-New-reign---Nemesis-Main-Master > test environment > behavior templates.

 

What I did on my side was take the files from this behavior templates folder, and replace the behavior templates in my main install of Nemesis.

Again, I don't know if it was this, or the reinstall, or because Kimy might have changed how DD5 handles its animations, but I tested the armbinder, I tested the hobble dress, I tested them both together, and where they originally gave me issues, they now work. Maybe it's just a perfect mix of conditions in my load order, but figure it's worth giving a shot if people are struggling to make them work.

Hey, first of all thank you for the time you took to make a response. Could you eloborate a little more on how you made it work.

Did you uninstall FNIS completely ?

[ainamtuollaf]

On 4/11/2021 at 1:25 PM, YojimboRatchet said:

ok, i'm finally considering biting the bullet and doing the full upgrade, i need to know ahead of time, what the changes are like (any items no longer in 5.1 that were in 4.3, 3BBB support, patches and fixes, known bugs...)

 

the big thing i need to know, is what mods are known to not work with 5.1 that do with 4.3. specifically, Deviously Enslaved, DFW, immerslave, consumer alternate starts, city bondage, captured dreams SE, hydra slavergirls, and devious cidhna, as these are some of the main mods i consider essential in my game play.

 

I use DFW, hydra, and devious cidhna.  All of them seem to work "just fine" with 5.1, which is to say they work as well as they did with 4.3.

 

Consumer alternate starts did not work for me with 5.1, but I never tried it with 4.3 so I don't know if I had a DD 5.1 problem or some other problem.

 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Xelonore said:

 

More than happy to try building the morphs for what feels like the 100th time. First screenshot is showing I'm actually building the morphs, second showing there's no textures in the preview, and third showing there's textures in the menus, 4th showing no textures when equipped. And then a fifth to prove that stuff from DDI+DDA are working, it's just DDX.

 

 

Are you running it from your mod manager? What is your mod manager?

Build one outfit (not a batch build). Is it going to the right place? Make sure you don't have a path issue like \Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Data or \Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\meshes.

Make sure you select a preset - currently you have none per your screenshot and there will be clipping whenever you actually get it working.

 

I know you said you have  it configured right, but you have some setting wrong somewhere. The outfits are invisible because there's no mesh until bodyslide builds it. That doesn't apply to all meshes, just some. Armbinders are one of the ones where meshes are prebuilt, so that means nothing. The bodyslide is to make them fit better. There's likely no textures because you are either running bodyslide outside of your mod manager or it's looking in the wrong place for them.

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, unmog said:

I was wondering something, is there a way to change the hobble walk/bunny hop option for the hobble dresses without having to reinstall all of Devious Devices? If anything I wish that was an option in the MCM somewhere instead of an option you choose when installing it.

 

Could probably just go into the fomod zip and pull them out and overwrite your current install, then run FNIS. Because there's a section to select between them in the fomod, the options each have their own folder. Not recommended if you don't understand installing manually from a fomod.

[keitsoru]

3 hours ago, volcomday90 said:

Hey, first of all thank you for the time you took to make a response. Could you eloborate a little more on how you made it work.

Did you uninstall FNIS completely ?

I reinstalled FNIS, though I can't say for certain that had anything to do with it.