Devious Devices SE

zarantha · April 10, 2021

6 hours ago, Faustling said:

Maybe duping items with the positioner also duplicates some ID or reference that should be unique to the item? Or maybe some important data is omitted? You said that DD works only through other mods, and I have no other mods that use DD, so creating things with console commands is not the procedure recommended by the manufacturer.

No problems with DD other than the annoying messages. Is there any way of turning them off?

I've no idea on this, sorry.

To turn off the messages, you'd need to find and edit the script triggering them. I don't know which one it would be in.

boinboinhime · April 10, 2021

14 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Not until that mod is updated. It will work, it just doesn't have the new outfits.

thank you! ?

Faustling · April 10, 2021

31 minutes ago, zarantha said:

I've no idea on this, sorry.

To turn off the messages, you'd need to find and edit the script triggering them. I don't know which one it would be in.

I did an uninstall and recorded elements that survived the purge and then removed them manually. Nothing in my dungeon was deleted. I can still access it all with the Help function. Perhaps this information is stored on Steam. So far, my game plays exactly as before, but without the annoying messages. I may just leave it like that and see what happens.

zarantha · April 10, 2021

45 minutes ago, HUKyBZ6672Th7Jn said:

Thanks for that message I have been trying to work out what was going on with the slaver's armbinder for the past hour or so.

@Heulsuze too

UNP binders updated, I did not have low/high weights set on the project. Attachment on the troubleshooting post updated.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

Faustling · April 10, 2021

I noticed that the crotch rope has disappeared, and I assume the other wearables as well. The furniture remains in place, though I don't know how much of it is Zaz

April 10, 2021

On 4/8/2021 at 2:19 PM, Ragatokk said:

Any idea what I have done wrong to make the gag look this missplaced?

I have been having that exact same problem, still trying to find a solution to it.

Elsidia · April 10, 2021

1 hour ago, jd210 said:

still trying to find a solution to it.

mfgfix will be you friend. Don't be rude friend and install it!)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669

Elsidia · April 10, 2021

6 hours ago, Faustling said:

Nothing in my dungeon was deleted

Hey, this is your own made dungeon? Then probably CK is guilty. I'm not sure how it works, but it's generates a dungeon preview and probably keep those files in separate folder. Delete manually all items from you dungeon cell. It must help i think.

Heulsuze · April 10, 2021

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

UNP binders updated, I did not have low/high weights set on the project. Attachment on the troubleshooting post updated.

Good News. But... as i looked inside the attachment-files (UUNP DD Binders and Heretical SE 2.7z), I still see the same as before:

DD Binders UUNP.osp [2021-03-12]
...
<OutputFile GenWeights="false">FT_ArmbinderElbow_1</OutputFile>
...

Do you miss to update the archive, maybe? ?

April 10, 2021

6 hours ago, Elsidia said:

mfgfix will be you friend. Don't be rude friend and install it!)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669

I have it installed, for some time now. Nothing changed, the problem persists.

Elsidia · April 10, 2021

46 minutes ago, jd210 said:

I have it installed, for some time now. Nothing changed, the problem persists.

If you have DD 4.3 then you need install DD 4.3 gag fix, but in DD 5.0 + must work with only mfgfix. Race, other facegen mods, dd for him etc installed?

Ragatokk · April 10, 2021

Whats going on here?
Looks like naked animation holding hands in front of the boobs + invisible hands + empty armbinder. 20210410191934_1.jpg.785696278884aaf161ee112c26676e97.jpg

April 10, 2021

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

If you have DD 4.3 then you need install DD 4.3 gag fix, but in DD 5.0 + must work with only mfgfix. Race, other facegen mods, dd for him etc installed?

Using DD 5.1. I do have high poly head installed, perhaps that could be causing the problem?

Elsidia · April 10, 2021

24 minutes ago, jd210 said:

I do have high poly head installed

DD gag system uses standard face morphs, mfgfix fixes facegen morph problems. High poly head uses morphs, maybe modify morphs. Yes it can be general problem of closed mouth because DD calls wrong morph or modified morph, what not works in that way.

I give 80% probability that guilty is that mod.

Elsidia · April 10, 2021

4 hours ago, Ragatokk said:

Looks like naked animation holding hands in front of the boobs + invisible hands + empty armbinder.

You use boobs cover animation what not from DCL or DD? if yes it's probably overwrite armbinder animation. Any mod what add new idle animations for player. Example FNiS sex move, but this mod not use boobs cover animation, because probably not guilty. Only as example.

zarantha · April 11, 2021

13 hours ago, Heulsuze said:
Good News. But... as i looked inside the attachment-files (UUNP DD Binders and Heretical SE 2.7z), I still see the same as before:
DD Binders UUNP.osp [2021-03-12]
...
<OutputFile GenWeights="false">FT_ArmbinderElbow_1</OutputFile>
...
Do you miss to update the archive, maybe? ?

Sigh, no I zipped up the wrong file...

Try again please?

zarantha · April 11, 2021

7 hours ago, jd210 said:

I have it installed, for some time now. Nothing changed, the problem persists.

Is it installed correctly? MFG fix requires Address Library.

do you see the dll loading in your skse log?

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log

While High Poly will change the head shape and things may not match correctly, it shouldn't prevent the mouth from opening while gagged. I'm currently using it too.

April 11, 2021

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

Is it installed correctly? MFG fix requires Address Library.

do you see the dll loading in your skse log?

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log

While High Poly will change the head shape and things may not match correctly, it shouldn't prevent the mouth from opening while gagged. I'm currently using it too.

I have Address Library installed along with MFG fix. The dll is loading. I am not sure what else to check.

April 11, 2021

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

DD gag system uses standard face morphs, mfgfix fixes facegen morph problems. High poly head uses morphs, maybe modify morphs. Yes it can be general problem of closed mouth because DD calls wrong morph or modified morph, what not works in that way.

I give 80% probability that guilty is that mod.

I think that could be the culprit, everything else checks out.

YojimboRatchet · April 11, 2021

ok, i'm finally considering biting the bullet and doing the full upgrade, i need to know ahead of time, what the changes are like (any items no longer in 5.1 that were in 4.3, 3BBB support, patches and fixes, known bugs...)

the big thing i need to know, is what mods are known to not work with 5.1 that do with 4.3. specifically, Deviously Enslaved, DFW, immerslave, consumer alternate starts, city bondage, captured dreams SE, hydra slavergirls, and devious cidhna, as these are some of the main mods i consider essential in my game play.

zarantha · April 11, 2021

1 hour ago, YojimboRatchet said:

ok, i'm finally considering biting the bullet and doing the full upgrade, i need to know ahead of time, what the changes are like (any items no longer in 5.1 that were in 4.3, 3BBB support, patches and fixes, known bugs...)

the big thing i need to know, is what mods are known to not work with 5.1 that do with 4.3. specifically, Deviously Enslaved, DFW, immerslave, consumer alternate starts, city bondage, captured dreams SE, hydra slavergirls, and devious cidhna, as these are some of the main mods i consider essential in my game play.

DD 5.1 didn't remove devices, it just added them. 3BBB has not been updated for the new outfits yet. Patches are on troubleshooting post still. There's missing textures if you *don't* use DCL, you're fine if you *do* use it. If you use UNP, I screwed up heretic and the new arm/elbowbinders bodyslides, updates to that are there too. Patches for SLIF are available there too.

Most of those mods, you'll need to test yourself or someone else will need to chime in.

Captured Dreams we don't expect to work since it was compatible with DD 3.x and never actually upgraded to DD 4.x (yes I know the patch but that's script only and not enough - the items themselves need updated). Captured Dreams has also been removed and I don't think there's an update on if the author was going to remake or not. See this thread for more info, I don't recommend you continue using it. If you do, it's at your own risk, no one is supporting it.

Consumer alternate starts works. That's only an indirect tie to DD and doesn't depend on it. Devious cidhna is in my mod list, but i haven't gotten there yet. I don't use the others, and in the absence of other people complaining about them, I assume they work. I would recommend you check and ask on those mod pages.

April 12, 2021

made a torrent to download without mega

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z.torrent

Church the Cat · April 12, 2021

Greetings, friends. ??
I use UUNP HDT with Bodyslide and am curious which UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping? I'm currently using a custom preset made by myself, but am ready to sacrifice my beautiful THICC bottom-heavy bodied goddesses in exchange for not seeing skin clipping through chastity belts, bras, boots and gloves. I prefer big butts with C-DD breasts, but will consider any presets with minimal clipping.

Thanks, for reading. ?

Elsidia · April 12, 2021

3 hours ago, Church the Cat said:

UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping?

If you are expert user of outfitstudio, you can use any preset. To prevent chastity belts clipping with butts, you need copy on that belts UUNP HDT bones what is used in UUNP HDT. Then belts will moves with body and no clipping i think. I use HDT SMP bouncy physics and by copyping bones what's need for bounce to CBBE outfits, it's stop clipping. Also some DCL stockings clip without bones but when you add bones (carefully) it's stop clipping. Also new UUNP sliders must copy too, to make belts enlarge, delarge in bodyslide, when choose a preset.

zarantha · April 12, 2021

5 hours ago, Church the Cat said:

Greetings, friends. ??
I use UUNP HDT with Bodyslide and am curious which UUNP HDT preset Devious Devices fits best with the least clipping? I'm currently using a custom preset made by myself, but am ready to sacrifice my beautiful THICC bottom-heavy bodied goddesses in exchange for not seeing skin clipping through chastity belts, bras, boots and gloves. I prefer big butts with C-DD breasts, but will consider any presets with minimal clipping.

Thanks, for reading. ?

These are the LE UNP bodyslides, so they should contain just about every UNP preset out there. The only thing I did was add the arm and elbowbinders bodyslides. Whatever you see in bodyslide as default from this mod. Try flipping through a few of them and see what's closest to your custom preset. Or just use outfit studio to fix the clipping for your preset.

Multiselect all meshes, including the reference shape (add reference shape if there isn't one) then do Slider -> Load Preset. Once your preset is loaded, you can use the inflate/deflate brushes to adjust the mesh. Any outfit studio tutorial should be able to help after the preset is loaded.

Spoiler

Add reference - this is the body you based your preset on. So UUNP HDT for you. Some bodies will already have a reference, you don't need to add it for those.

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