SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping (the former "Aggressive Prostitution") 2023

[Will55]

Another minor and probably impossible to fix, problem is when one hooker out of 6 roaming a city comes and tells you that: "{....} refused to pay". How my char is supposed to work out who is meant, is totally beyond me.

Personally, I would just scrap the whole bad punter bit as it might be realistic, but it is a bit of a joke as when the girls are out self-selling as I have no idea of who they mean and where, while the quest sits forever in my Misc. quest folder.

Edited June 21, 2022 by Will55

[Will55]

Okay I have now had a total of some 12 hookers running as following hookers (6 at a time obviously) and there are problems.

 

The first one is that those told to wait in an inn who are still on the prowl for work can finish up anywhere in Skyrim but always eventually seem to follow my PC to wherever.

I see nothing wrong with them looking around outside in Solitude, Morthal etc if the inn work is slack. But not at Whiterun or Riften.

 

Then the girls, once having achieved enough experience and been taken off the clock then dismissed as a follower and then asked to work in a location (so far only an inn),

They also roam the countryside making positioning them quite pointless.

 

I fully appreciate the MCM and the 6 following hookers but so far, I am severely tempted to return to the older TDF files (as used previously) as at least I knew what to expect.

[Tlam99]

Not sure, if this is still relevant.

 

I still use 2555 and addon. Hooker dance for cash causing sometimes ctd.

Guess I found the issue.

In the scripts have LOS checks. Sometimes the hookers dance behind the wall, LOS will be lost -> ctd if update falls into this lost LOS.

What I did, added to all magic effects of dancer  "snaptonavmesh and "does not need LOS".

Tested on at least10 dances in a row, no more ctd.

 

[Dez65]

On 6/15/2022 at 6:51 PM, Pfiffy said:

if you use TDF advanced don't mix it with the newer Versions in the future. You will break everything...

Yeah, I'm not changing anything!  It works great!

 

Any suggestions on recruiting NPCs from Populated Skyrim Baba Edition?  I've looked at this and that mod on xEdit and I don't see anything obvious.

[AnzoCaio]

On 7/3/2022 at 7:57 PM, Tlam99 said:

Not sure, if this is still relevant.

 

I still use 2555 and addon. Hooker dance for cash causing sometimes ctd.

Guess I found the issue.

In the scripts have LOS checks. Sometimes the hookers dance behind the wall, LOS will be lost -> ctd if update falls into this lost LOS.

What I did, added to all magic effects of dancer  "snaptonavmesh and "does not need LOS".

Tested on at least10 dances in a row, no more ctd.

 

Can i ask where you added those lines? And as for the lines do I place them as "snaptonavmesh" and "does not need LOS"

[Tlam99]

4 minutes ago, AnzoCaio said:

And as for the lines do

This are flags of the magic effects for dancers.

Xedit select the magic effects and set the flags in right window.

[Mrs Taewa]

If I just want my PC to just pimp his three Followers out when he and they stop at an Inn for the night on their travels, without him leaving any of them behind, would this mod allow that?

[whyy?]

On 6/17/2022 at 4:33 PM, powersexking said:

in version 2.7. When registering a prostitute and soliciting prostitution to other npc's, the prostitute's name is displayed as []. 

I second this one, exactly same situation. Never occurred before 2.7

[sirgilly]

On 8/2/2022 at 4:07 PM, whyy? said:

I second this one, exactly same situation. Never occurred before 2.7

same issue. 

[Lillithcometh]

i cant get the guard interaction to work....it triggers too soon, during sexlab animation allignment, and causes the dialogue to be cut off, causes the gaurd to immediatley trigger an arrest, and half the time it freezes my PC in place and i have to revert save.....whats happening?

[Selena Glazer]

Hey Pfiffy, all i need to install is TDF2022 right? No need to install the 'TDF Adds 15 Independent prostitute quests to TDF Prostitution and Pimping.7z' as it is included in TDF2022

[sexcapades]

13 hours ago, Selena Glazer said:

Hey Pfiffy, all i need to install is TDF2022 right? No need to install the 'TDF Adds 15 Independent prostitute quests to TDF Prostitution and Pimping.7z' as it is included in TDF2022

I only have tdf2022 installed and have all of the features of the former 2 files and more.

[Selena Glazer]

14 minutes ago, sexcapades said:

I only have tdf2022 installed and have all of the features of the former 2 files and more.

Great, thanks

[Dez65]

I'm still using TDF Independent Prostitutes Legendary SLEN SE.7z rather than the more recent updates because I use TDF Enhanced Prostitution 1.0.3 which is necessary in order to have solicitation tracked by Sexual Fame.  Everything works as expected except that I get consistent repeatable CTDs whenever I use TDF Player Dance.  

 

I saw the post by Tlam99 about adding some flags using SSEEdit but I'm struggling to follow those instructions as I'm not quite sure still where the flags should be added.  I see editable flags under Magic Effect Data under the dance records, but, although I can add snaptonavmesh I don't see the option to add "does not need LOS."  

 

I'm sure I'm missing something.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

[hlbdgo]

On 6/19/2022 at 8:43 PM, Will55 said:

Thank you for the prompt reply. As I noted above the first problem is solved but I don't want to leave Dawnstar until I can recruit that luscious ultra desirable guard ( so long as she keeps her mouth shut...well, most of the time anyway ?).

BTW Stormcloak female guards/soldiers are often quite delectable to put it mildly unlike most of the legion ones.

 

Addendum: I decided to try and convert my female PC into a Futa. I had pushed in F4 for someone to enable the mods so that one could play an actual hermaphrodite (I met one some years ago). But it. went like a lead balloon there. So I decided to give the futa a try here (it had mostly failed miserably in past SSE attempts). Imagine my surprise when I managed to get my futa to work. Unfortunately it is not really the "best of both worlds" and there are still annoying problems:

 

1) My followers still regard her as a female and I must make them all lesbians to get them into my bed  and she still has problems as even her lover seems to not have such a line of speech (she is a hooker now) and there is no line of speech where she can actually proposition them, and the best she can do is rape them while asleep which is not exactly Kocher IMO.

2) But the biggest problem is then my PC tries to train them herself as they simply have no response at all to that line and even before in the older mod versions, I found that clicking the training line, especially WRT the PC made the line just sit there and nothing happened until I tabbed it and then if was the girls training each other it would usually work but often the line still hung there until I tabbed.

 

These are not game crippling problems , just nuisances. Interestingly she is treated as female by the males and male by the females WRT sexual activity(see rapes mostly) but often the females choke on  fellatio (sorry!) and cannot resist sticking their tongue into the still present vagina. ( I guess the huge clit frightened them? ). 

So while I have had some success with my mosaic human ( pushing two chars overawed me WRT the time required) it still is not perfect but I have at least approached the ideal of having a char worth looking at and being able to err "help" those needy Skyrim women. Sigrid will receive one hell of a shock when the little  daughter returns home seeing as losing her virginity to a horse made all else seem a breeze.

 

Addendum 2: I found that IF the other 4 hookers were busy training each other or working and the PC was the only one available then she could train the hooker. It appears that she is the last resort before self teaching

wow huge clit. I wonder if I can see it.

[Frik88]

On 2022/8/3 at AM4点07分, whyy? said:

我支持这个，完全一样的情况。2.7之前从未发生过

same problem. Anyone gives a solution?

[Tlam99]

On 8/13/2022 at 1:23 PM, Dez65 said:

I see editable flags under Magic Effect

Spoiler

 

[Warsteiner]

On 5/12/2022 at 11:38 AM, anon103040 said:

 

Probably not possible via xEdit. It's actually a very simple edit, you just have to uncomment a line in the file "bb_hookerclientstartsexquestscript.psc".

 

 

 

Just delete that semicolon, then recompile and it's done.

 

Not sure if this script is the one used by everything else to start sex scenes, otherwise wherever this appears, the lead in has to be disabled. 

 

If you are unable to recompile, I've attached the modified scripts. Not sure if that change will break anything, but doubtful imo.

If it doesn't work there may be other scripts in the source also with the lead in enabled.

bb_hookerclientstartsexquestscript.psc 4.22 kB · 6 downloads bb_hookerclientstartsexquestscript.pex 5.29 kB · 9 downloads

Thank you, this solved the issue for me, but only for the NPCs. When I try to start an animation with the character I still get the LeadIn anims. Howewer I found another script that contains that line above with semicolon but I just don't know how could I delete it and compile the psc to pex I tried with CK and other programs too but everytime I compile, it runs to errors.   Can you help me how could I compile it for myself? Thanks again!

[Will55]

To Pfiffy Reposted from the PAH page

 

I have now confirmed the recurrent 6 follower Hooker experience problem that IIRC someone else noted.

Hookers in TDF positions 2 and 5 I noted often had exactly the same experience.

However, on dumping number 2 and before replacing her I looked at number 5's experience and it was different from before I sacked 2 despite no clients.

Then, trying to be clever, I went back to the save before and dumped No 5 but No 2's experience remained the same.

So, 2 dominates 5 but not VV.

So, with a new 2 (an inn later) I checked 2's experience, then recruited a new No 5 but when I looked after about 2 clients (I was too busy elsewhere to do so before she was in group action 2x) her experience should have been 2 but was 48 the same as No 5.

Now while this might seem a nice cheat, it is not, as dumping 2 gives 5 back her real experience (2 in this case).

 

I suppose that it is possible to sack 5 and hope that her exp remains at the cheat level but I doubt that this would happen as IMO while she is grouped with 5 is only then it would happen and i am unwilling to test further as I have &%^*'d around enough already with this and the other minor but bypassed problems above. ( I still tread gently every time I sack a hooker and still have the supposed culprit as a hooker (>200 clients and >300 exp) as I am not game to sack her.

while the local inn incels still grasp at the non-experience granting "help me out" favours if I turn my back for a minute)

 

It is NOT a big problem, just a confusing one and once understood can be circumvented.

 

Addendum: I have just discovered that 200 clients is the defined upper limit of clients for a following hooker. As it happened to 2 hookers at different times (and it about to hit 2 more) I am certain of this. Why did I allow them to reach such a high score? A combination of personality and keenness for the job plus the fact that I am thane of nowhere and I try to pick really beautiful ones or ones who can be made so with minor help. TBH most female Beth NPCs bark.

 

And as a footnote, my char now has Sam Guevenne(sp?) or Sanguine as a SLEN "lover" as while he keeps trying to tempt her, she offers him hookers. A real pity that this does not carry over into any of the mods that involve him.?

[Pfiffy]

3 hours ago, Will55 said:

To Pfiffy Reposted from the PAH page

 

I have now confirmed the recurrent 6 follower Hooker experience problem that IIRC someone else noted.

Hookers in TDF positions 2 and 5 I noted often had exactly the same experience.

However, on dumping number 2 and before replacing her I looked at number 5's experience and it was different from before I sacked 2 despite no clients.

Then, trying to be clever, I went back to the save before and dumped No 5 but No 2's experience remained the same.

So, 2 dominates 5 but not VV.

So, with a new 2 (an inn later) I checked 2's experience, then recruited a new No 5 but when I looked after about 2 clients (I was too busy elsewhere to do so before she was in group action 2x) her experience should have been 2 but was 48 the same as No 5.

Now while this might seem a nice cheat, it is not, as dumping 2 gives 5 back her real experience (2 in this case).

 

I suppose that it is possible to sack 5 and hope that her exp remains at the cheat level but I doubt that this would happen as IMO while she is grouped with 5 is only then it would happen and i am unwilling to test further as I have &%^*'d around enough already with this and the other minor but bypassed problems above. ( I still tread gently every time I sack a hooker and still have the supposed culprit as a hooker (>200 clients and >300 exp) as I am not game to sack her.

while the local inn incels still grasp at the non-experience granting "help me out" favours if I turn my back for a minute)

 

It is NOT a big problem, just a confusing one and once understood can be circumvented.

 

Addendum: I have just discovered that 200 clients is the defined upper limit of clients for a following hooker. As it happened to 2 hookers at different times (and it about to hit 2 more) I am certain of this. Why did I allow them to reach such a high score? A combination of personality and keenness for the job plus the fact that I am thane of nowhere and I try to pick really beautiful ones or ones who can be made so with minor help. TBH most female Beth NPCs bark.

 

And as a footnote, my char now has Sam Guevenne(sp?) or Sanguine as a SLEN "lover" as while he keeps trying to tempt her, she offers him hookers. A real pity that this does not carry over into any of the mods that involve him.?

This will be hell of a work to track it down....

[Will55]

On 10/8/2022 at 11:10 PM, Pfiffy said:

This will be hell of a work to track it down....

Thank you for the reply I was wondering if you had been blown away ( Pfeiffer joke) looking for firewood or not peddling hard enough on the bicycle generator.?

 

The 2/5 exp problem can be circumvented but it takes some effort.  I would not waste my time unless you are an obsessive.

 

The 200 limit is a pity but I was forced into that level of clients by my no thane situation and the hassles associated with taking her and the others off the clock.

I feel that the bard one had near 300 clients going by the money.

The other 3 (she, the bard, was number1)who hit 200 were part of that group (hookers 1,3,4,6) So IMO it is not a big problem for 90% of mod users. 

 

I have placed 10 hookers in inns via 2 & 5 recycling until I realized what was happening and now sack both and reload the prior save and sack just one.

Now I will sack 1,3,4,6 and place 2 of them(the bard (1) in the bard's college, the other(3) in the inn. The other 2 will come with me and stay in the following group until I get another house.

 

But the slimy "can you help me out" incels  who suck away experience really annoy me, and Hooker faction should (temporarily as long as they are hookers) remove wench and FG faction IMHO.

Of course knowing S*A about modding that is easy for me to say.

 

I did Brinewater Grotto with 4 hookers set to "look for work" in the Winking Skeever. 3 managed 3 clients each but naturally one followed me and was half killed by the bandits.

But the Thalmor Justiciar did NOTHING and had no clients and even as a follower she had 0 SLEN and Slave tats does not work on her so no stockings and makeup. Pity as she is quite attractive as a high elf. "sultry" isn't the word for her. "b*tch" is closer. I had no idea that pimping was such a PitA even though I am rolling in gold as the 200s brought in 140-240 k each. Nothing to buy with it all anyway.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Will55

[Will55]

Okay found another problem but it could be just me not doing something correctly:

I have slowly crawled across Skyrim with up to 12 followers and 6 are hookers as soon as I am happy with one hooker I take her off the clock and recruit another then when the new one has >10 clients I tell the hooker who was just taken "off the clock" that this (inn/college etc.) is her new home.

 

Then I dismiss her as a follower and then tell her how I would like her to stay here, and work and she makes the usual: "Please drop in and see me etc." line.

 

I did this with twelve hookers, and had only 3 inns and the mage college left so I was looking around to see where else I could drop them off as I have plenty of mod inns left (4 large and ~12 smaller).

But doing a quick quest I ran into a couple of my "placed" hookers and NONE were actually working, so 12 hookers , most with >>100 clients are sitting around doing nothing except give out virtual freebies to the local incels.

 

Is this a bug? Or is it me?

 

NB that I deliberately did NOT pick "stay here in this inn" as i wanted to see if it would work and I had the bard and mage college in mind as well as a few other places neither inn, college nor Jarl's.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Will55

[gardelucina]

I accidentally told someone to free roam instead of staying in as city, I can't seem to dismiss her, the "take a break" command doesn't do anything

[Vyxenne]

On 10/14/2022 at 8:33 AM, Will55 said:

doing a quick quest I ran into a couple of my "placed" hookers and NONE were actually working, so 12 hookers , most with >>100 clients are sitting around doing nothing except give out virtual freebies to the local incels.

It's been a while since I used this mod, but I seem to recall that you will never find your hookers "in flagrante delicto" unless you have a mod specifically to generate NPC-NPC sex, e.g. Random Sex or similar. TDFPP just has them give you the money "they earned *wink* *wink*" whenever you show up and ask for it, with no evidence that they actually did anything with anyone.

[Will55]

4 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

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It's been a while since I used this mod, but I seem to recall that you will never find your hookers "in flagrante delicto" unless you have a mod specifically to generate NPC-NPC sex, e.g. Random Sex or similar. TDFPP just has them give you the money "they earned *wink* *wink*" whenever you show up and ask for it, with no evidence that they actually did anything with anyone.

Thank you for the reply.

However, my point was that their client number had not increased at all as the gold is largely irrelevant, once you have enough, as I then had, and TBH I did not even ask them about the money. Currently in my latest run I have no hookers (but intend to do so in a much more organized fashion later on) as I am frankly sick of spoon feeding them for their first ten clients as it is so time consuming while telling them to "look for their own clients" once > 10, means that they often follow you into dungeons and wreak havoc upon your intentions there. I also am undecided about using slave hookers as I always find more than enough non slaves who want to count the ceiling stains for a living (in RL it was once called "counting the flowers on the ornamental plaster ceiling" IIRC ?).

 

In addition, I have a standard dress/make-up profile (yes! very RED lipstick) for hookers and i am not certain that slave tats can handle the numbers,

Does anyone know the upper limit for the number of slave tat "clients"? My PC, if female is always the first one.