Zaz Animation Pack V8.0 plus

[Nymra]

19 minutes ago, damnvox said:

I reinstalled, making sure the download was good and nothing was overwritten and im getting the same issue

Do you use Mod Organizer?
There are two panes where load order is important. Left is just files, right is ESPs. Both have to be in order. 
Use LOOT to sort your load order. 

Very often CTDs happen when the ESM files are incorrect. 

[donttouchmethere]

3 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

Using the Display Model 9 item version works fine however

No surprise there, because Display Model comes with it's own idles and furniture.

Means something is still wrong with your zaz installation.

Luckily you found it out already ?

[donttouchmethere]

4 hours ago, damnvox said:

I reinstalled, making sure the download was good and nothing was overwritten and im getting the same issue

as Nymra said:

we can't read your mind.

A Load Order and FNIS output would help at least to check for obvious errors.

[Brisl]

4 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

Hello all

 

Having an issue with some Zaz furniture, it basically gives me a tilted X-Cross pose 

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Using the Display Model 9 item version works fine however

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It does this in SLRetreat and PAHE placed items, I've ran FNIS, reinstalled Zaz several times, but still can't find a fix

17 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

as Nymra said:

we can't read your mind.

A Load Order and FNIS output would help at least to check for obvious errors.

18 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

No surprise there, because Display Model comes with it's own idles and furniture.

Means something is still wrong with your zaz installation.

Luckily you found it out already ?

 

Please See ... issue seems solved the neccessary hkx files for the turturefiles seems not installed correctly ... here the troubleshoot thread

 

Mr. Pickles seems correct .. the Zaz Installation seems faulty

 

 

[Justgingeryt]

44 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

as Nymra said:

we can't read your mind.

A Load Order and FNIS output would help at least to check for obvious errors.

Still not fixed the issue even with all the correct files

 

Here is my FNIS 

Spoiler

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground V1.00 ...     ChAnims:17     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:420     CTD:2.6%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ...     ChAnims:42     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...     ChAnims:120     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading dcc-display-model-2 V102 ...     ChAnims:76     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:635(493)     CTD:12.5%     pOpt:1.9%
        NOTE: DD has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:330(330)     CTD:9.3%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...     ChAnims:102(102)     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:370     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.8%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:39     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ...     ChAnims:34(34)     CTD:1.3%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FNISBase V7.5 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ...     ChAnims:21(18)     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading GSPoser V?.? ...     ChAnims:162     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ITortureFramework V1.00 ...     ChAnims:12     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Maria V2.01 ...     ChAnims:52(17)     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading MME V6.07 ...     ChAnims:52     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading PAHE V5 ...     ChAnims:14     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading PAH_HomeSweetHome V1.00 ...     ChAnims:6     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...     ChAnims:1025     CTD:6.5%     pOpt:1.7%
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...     ChAnims:178     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ...     ChAnims:25     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
        NOTE: SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation)
Reading WhiterunBrothel V1.0 ...     ChAnims:8     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...     ChAnims:1669     CTD:7.9%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...     ChAnims:42     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 7 sets: 50 total groups: 197 added file slots: 1463 alternate files: 1158

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...

 5815 animations for 31 mods successfully included (character)
ChAnims: 5815  CTD:53.2%  pOpt:7.5%  max: 10922  LC: 13929 (max. 26162)

 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included.

 

And my LO

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     hdtHighHeel.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 10  a     Heels Sound.esm
 11  b     AzarHair.esm
 12  c     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 15  f     RaceCompatibility.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 17 11     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 18 12     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 19 13     paradise_halls.esm
 20 14     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 21 15     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 22 16     ITortureFramework.esm
 23 17     WhiterunBrothel.esm
 24 18     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 25 19     SkyUI.esp
 26 1a     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 31 1f     Ballet Boots.esp
 32 20     KS Hairdo's.esp
 33 21     ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
 34 22     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 35 23     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
 36 24     WhiterunBrothel.esp
 37 25     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 38 26     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 39 27     MilkModNEW.esp
 40 28     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 41 29     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 42 2a     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
 43 2b     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 44 2c     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 45 2d     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 46 2e     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
 47 2f     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 48 30     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 49 31     TS_FetishWardrobe.esp
 50 32     TS_FetishWardrobe_Uncut.esp
 51 33     UIExtensions.esp
 52 34     RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
 53 35     Brows.esp
 54 36     Vindicta.esp
 55 37     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 56 38     K-Girl UUNP.esp
 57 39     [COCO]chunli_qipao.esp
 58 3a     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 59 3b     Bondage Furniture World.esp
 60 3c     KeelyFollowerByAsherz.esp
 61 3d     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 62 3e     Devious Lore.esp
 63 3f     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
 64 40     SimpleSlavery.esp
 65 41     Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
 66 42     DeviousFollowers.esp
 67 43     Eyes of Aber.esp
 68 44     Neithteam Warpaint.esp
 69 45     Lieyes_v1.0.esp
 70 46     SGEyebrows.esp
 71 47     SexLabDefeat.esp
 72 48     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 73 49     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 74 4a     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 75 4b     Luxury Collection.esp
 76 4c     Northgirl.esp
 77 4d     [dint]_NeirAutomataHDT.esp
 78 4e     Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp
 79 4f     Botox.esp
 80 50     Botox_CharGen.esp
 81 51     Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp
 82 52     Glowing Eyes.esp
 83 53     Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
 84 54     MariEyes.esp
 85 55     Kai's Lipstick.esp
 86 56     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 87 57     [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
 88 58     COR_AllRace.esp
 89 59     COR_TheEyesOfBeauty_Compability Patch_1.1.esp
 90 5a     SlaveTats.esp
 91 5b     BetterFreeCamera.esp
 92 5c     dcc-dm2.esp
 93 5d     _GSPoses.esp
 94 5e     S_L_U_T_S.esp
           FoxClub.esp
           PonyTailClub.esp
           HouseOfBurden.esp
           BanneredMareExtension.esp
 95 5f     paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp
 96 60     SOS - Shop.esp
 97 61     Latex Cameo Nurses - Nokou.esp
 98 62     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
 99 63     Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
           Club Riften.esp
100 64     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
101 65     SLRetread.esp
102 66     My Home Is Your Home.esp
103 67     Lyra.esp
104 68     SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
105 69     Shiny Catsuits.esp
106 6a     Slavehouse.esp
107 6b     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
108 6c     GagSFX.esp
109 6d     Botox - TEoB Patch.esp
110 6e     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
111 6f     DeleteItems.esp
112 70     FNISSexyMove.esp
113 71     FNIS.esp
114 72     MilkModNEW CF.esp
115 73     MilkModNEW HF.esp
116 74     MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
117 75     Myhouse.esp
118 76     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
119 77     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
120 78     pahe-tdf-patch.esp
121 79     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
122 7a     My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
123 7b     Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp
124 7c     The Bondage House.esp
125 7d     SLAnimLoader.esp
126 7e     Animation Objects - Merged.esp
127 7f     Poser Hotkeys.esp
128 80     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
129 81     ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
130 82     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 

 

Double checked all Animation folders and Behaviour folders, and still the animations ingame don't work, still giving the x-cross pose

 

I have all the correct hkx files, triple checked them 

 

I'll also clarify, I'm using NNM

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

19 minutes ago, Justgingeryt said:

Still not fixed the issue even with all the correct files

Damn, so you might still have a mod that overwrites ZAZ.

Also if you post your FNIS output don't hide the warnings from us ;D

[Justgingeryt]

6 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Damn, so you might still have a mod that overwrites ZAZ.

Also if you post your FNIS output don't hide the warnings from us ;D

Its just some consistencies form MME and Zaz

 

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Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFA for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFB for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFC for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFD for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFE for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFF for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFG for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFH for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFI for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFJ for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_13 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_14 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
 36 possible consistence issues

 

I honestly have no idea how to fix this issue

[donttouchmethere]

38 minutes ago, Justgingeryt said:

Double checked all Animation folders and Behaviour folders, and still the animations ingame don't work, still giving the x-cross pose

 

I have all the correct hkx files, triple checked them 

 

I'll also clarify, I'm using NNM

Let's assume your skyrim/data and NMM virtual install isn't a mess by now:

 

Only one way to find out, start to remove the oldest ZAZ related mods.

Also it would be a good test what happens if you don't activate your bashed patch.

 

Always rebuild your bashed patch and FNIS after removal of a mod.

If you don't want to rebuild the bashed patch every time, just keep it deactivated for now.

 

If I where you I would start with the removal of:

23 17     WhiterunBrothel.esm => I guess it's not the Quest version?

124 7c     The Bondage House.esp

 58 3a     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp  => that's not the ME version right?

( 126 7e     Animation Objects - Merged.esp => that's your merged SLAL animations right? if so, no need to remove)

  65 41     Slaverun_Reloaded.esp => old or newer version?

 

 

And again, move ZAZ over DDa,i,x

Move it down in LO unless there is a reason you have it that far up: 29 1d     XPMSE.esp (best below FNIS)

 

What I really think about your Skyrim installation atm: kill it and restart. It's impossible for us to know what you messed up by now.

If you rebuild it make sure the base LL mods work correct: SLF, DD, ZAZ

Than start adding more mods.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Justgingeryt]

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

Let's assume your skyrim/data and NMM virtual install isn't a mess by now:

 

Only one way to find out, start to remove the oldest ZAZ related mods.

Also it would be a good test what happens if you don't activate your bashed patch.

 

Always rebuild your bashed patch and FNIS after removal of a mod.

If you don't want to rebuild the bashed patch every time, just keep it deactivated for now.

 

If I where you I would start with the removal of:

23 17     WhiterunBrothel.esm => I guess it's not the Quest version?

124 7c     The Bondage House.esp

 58 3a     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp  => that's not the ME version right?

( 126 7e     Animation Objects - Merged.esp => that's your merged SLAL animations right? if so, no need to remove)

  65 41     Slaverun_Reloaded.esp => old or newer version?

 

 

And again, move ZAZ over DDa,i,x

Move it down in LO unless there is a reason you have it that far up: 29 1d     XPMSE.esp (best below FNIS)

 

What I really think about your Skyrim installation atm: kill it and restart. It's impossible for us to know what you messed up by now.

If you rebuild it make sure the base LL mods work correct: SLF, DD, ZAZ

Than start adding more mods.

 

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I'm gonna have to wait until I have a whole day free to do this, I have like 150 something mods installed, so its gonna take a long time aha

 

Would it be best to uninstall via steam?

[donttouchmethere]

3 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

I'm gonna have to wait until I have a whole day free to do this, I have like 150 something mods installed, so its gonna take a long time aha

 

Would it be best to uninstall via steam?

yes I guess?

I just delete the skyrim folder and drop my skyrim backup in there, than register it via steam again.

Quickest way.

Also deactivating all mods in NMM takes forever (with over 300 mods), that's why I kill my NMM installation too.

You can make backups from your NMM mod folder and the NMM readme folder (although that one would be rebuild after adding your backup back into NMM mods)

Also a backup of your NMM categories helps if you created a lot.

Also backups of inis and jasons from mod MCM configuration help for a quicker restart (all be found in SKSE/plugins).

Same goes for Skyrim.ini and Skyrimpref.ini. If you don't know what your doing with those anyways, than use bethINI after reinstalling skyrim.

Also make a backup from enblocal.ini, skse.ini, nioverride.ini if you changed or used those.

If you like your racemenu presets make a backup of those too.

 

This will be in a blog of mine soon too, I'm just so sloooow.

 

Just don't install bigger mods manually and try to add everything via NMM so you don't have to remember what you have changed in skyrim/data.

Also if you use NMM it's important to check what mod overwrites what. Just don't click yes to everything. Keep your core mods intact.

Especially PapyrusUtil 3.3 and Jcontainers and ConsolUtil should never be overwritten.

 

[Justgingeryt]

25 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

yes I guess?

I just delete the skyrim folder and drop my skyrim backup in there, than register it via steam again.

Quickest way.

Also deactivating all mods in NMM takes forever (at least with over 500 mods), that's why I kill my NMM installation too.

You can make backups from your NMM mod folder and the NMM readme folder (although that one would be rebuild after adding your backup back into NMM mods)

Also a backup of your NMM categories helps if you created a lot.

Also backups of inis and jasons from mod MCM configuration help for a quicker restart (all be found in SKSE/plugins).

Same goes for Skyrim.ini and Skyrimpref.ini. If you don't know what your doing with those anyways, than use bethINI after reinstalling skyrim.

Also make a backup from enblocal.ini, skse.ini, nioverride.ini if you changed or used those.

If you like your racemenu presets make a backup of those too.

 

This will be in a blog of mine soon too, I'm just so sloooow.

 

Just don't install bigger mods manually and try to add everything via NMM so you don't have to remember what you have changed in skyrim/data.

Also if you use NMM it's important to check what mod overwrites what. Just don't click yes to everything. Keep your core mods intact.

Especially PapyrusUtil 3.3 and Jcontainers and ConsolUtil should never be overwritten.

 

Alrighty, I'll start all of this next week as I'm away and see if this works!

[damnvox]

5 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

as Nymra said:

we can't read your mind.

A Load Order and FNIS output would help at least to check for obvious errors.

load order: https://pastebin.com/rXQgCcCR

FNIS output: https://pastebin.com/AZTJiTmG

[donttouchmethere]

13 minutes ago, damnvox said:

load order: https://pastebin.com/rXQgCcCR

FNIS output: https://pastebin.com/AZTJiTmG

You can post your LO and FNIS output here too

just use spoilers, it's the ?️ icon on the LL editor icon bar.

 

If you copy paste your FNIS output also copy warnings and skeleton

(it's a mess on pastebin)

 

Your load order looks chaotic too, I guess your using MO and you exported the wrong plane?

[damnvox]

3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

You can post your LO and FNIS output here too

just use spoilers, it's the ?️ icon on the LL editor icon bar.

 

If you copy paste your FNIS output also copy warnings and skeleton

(it's a mess on pastebin)

 

Your load order looks chaotic too, I guess your using MO and you exported the wrong plane?

probably. just to make sure i got the right thing, could you paste a screenshot of what the output is supposed to look like?

 

[donttouchmethere]

58 minutes ago, damnvox said:

probably. just to make sure i got the right thing, could you paste a screenshot of what the output is supposed to look like?

 

just check a few post over you

justginger posted his FNIS and LO

 

If you posted your real load order on paste bin, than it's no surprise you have issues.

You can use LOOT to sort your load order for you

You can use LOOT also to export your LO, but I'm sure you can do so with MO too

 

your LO should begin like this:

0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

 

if it is sorted at all

[damnvox]

2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

just check a few post over you

justginger posted his FNIS and LO

 

If you posted your real load order on paste bin, than it's no surprise you have issues.

You can use LOOT to sort your load order for you

You can use LOOT also to export your LO, but I'm sure you can do so with MO too

 

your LO should begin like this:

0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

 

if it is sorted at all

ok, it was sorted with LOOT a while ago i just didnt get the order right

LO:

Spoiler

0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  7  7 EFFCore.esm
  8  8 SexLab.esm
  9  9 SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 12  c Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 13  d hdtHighHeel.esm
 14  e SGHairPackBase.esm
 15  f ApachiiHairMales.esm
 16 10 ApachiiHair.esm
 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 18 12 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 19 13 CreatureFramework.esm
 20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp
 21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp
 22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp
 23 17 SkyUI.esp
 24 18 RaceMenu.esp
 25 19 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 26 1a Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 27 1b Footprints.esp
 28 1c Headtracking.esp
 29 1d WetandCold.esp
 30 1e WetandCold - Ashes.esp
 31 1f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 32 20 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 33 21 SOSRaceMenu.esp
 34 22 XPMSE.esp
 35 23 FNIS.esp
 36 24 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 37 25 RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp
 38 26 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
 39 27 Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp
 40 28 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 42 2a Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
 43 2b Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 45 2d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 46 2e Artifact Disenchanting.esp
 47 2f RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
 48 30 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
 49 31 Point The Way.esp
 50 32 Immersive Weapons.esp
 51 33 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 52 34 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 53 35 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 54 36 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
 55 37 HentaiCreatures.esp
 56 38 ACE Archery.esp
 57 39 Run For Your Lives.esp
 58 3a Unique Uniques.esp
 59 3b ACE Enchanting.esp
 60 3c Men of Winter.esp
 61 3d Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 62 3e SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
 63 3f Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
 64 40 WorldEaterBeater.esp
 65 41 Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp
 66 42 FormsEdit.esp
 67 43 Devious Cidhna.esp
 68 44 ACE Melee.esp
 69 45 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 70 46 ACE Smithing.esp
 71 47 SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp
 72 48 ACE Armor.esp
 73 49 SMIM-SolitudeDocksFixes.esp
 74 4a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 75 4b ACE Speech.esp
 76 4c Gildergreen Regrown.esp
 77 4d FNISspells.esp
 78 4e Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
 79 4f ACE Synergy.esp
 80 50 ACE BYOG.esp
 81 51 ACE Magic.esp
 82 52 ACE Realistic Fighting.esp
 83 53 Vivid Landscapes.esp
 84 54 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
 85 55 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
 86 56 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
 87 57 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
 88 58 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
 89 59 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 90 5a UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp
 91 5b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 92 5c dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
 93 5d dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
 94 5e dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
 95 5f hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
 96 60 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
 97 61 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
 98 62 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
 99 63 EFFDialogue.esp
100 64 UIExtensions.esp
101 65 SerialStrip.esp
102 66 SerialStripper.esp
103 67 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
104 68 DeviouslyHelpless.esp
105 69 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
106 6a Babette.esp
107 6b SGEyebrows.esp
108 6c Osare Maid Outfit.esp
109 6d HDT Female Hairstyles.esp
110 6e HDT Maid Outfit.esp
111 6f HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp
112 70 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
113 71 SGHairPackAIO.esp
114 72 XCEMwW.esp
115 73 Blush When Aroused.esp
116 74 KS Hairdo's.esp
117 75 Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp
118 76 Men of Winter - Skills&Perks Module.esp
119 77 SLSO.esp
120 78 SLSO_F_VP_The Girl Next Door.esp
121 79 DW.esp
122 7a Spank That Ass.esp
123 7b MoreNastyCritters.esp
124 7c SLAnimLoader.esp
125 7d SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
126 7e SexLabDefeat.esp
127 7f mslDeviousCaptures.esp
128 80 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
129 81 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
130 82 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

and here's my FNIS output (I think???)

Spoiler

FNIS Behavior V7.5   11/6/2019 1:07:07 AM
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Installing FNIS PCEA2
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Human V1.0 ...
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...
Reading Defeat V5 ...
Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ...
Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V1.3 ...
Reading FNISBase V7.5 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...
Reading MNC V?.? ...
Reading SerialStrip V1.1.4 ...
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
 1 GENDER modifications for Animations\male
 3 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 70 total groups: 229 added file slots: 2280 alternate files: 1646

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MNC V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...

 6080 animations for 20 mods successfully included (character)

 990 animations for 3 mods and 33 creatures successfully included.

 0 possible consistence issues

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

36 minutes ago, damnvox said:

ok, it was sorted with LOOT a while ago i just didnt get the order right

uff, I can't see anything right away that looks obviously wrong.

CTD is interacting with inventory outfits might come from Skeleton issues or conflicting mods maybe broken meshes

You crash only if you interact with zaz items right?

Are you using MO or Vortex as your Mod Manager?

 

I can only guess:

> move XPMSE further down in LO and check if it got overwritten

> Did you install the UUNP ZAZ version and did you run bodyslide?

> maybe a bashed patch helps if it a mod conflict

> did you add ZAZ on a running game and do you have the same issues if you start a new game?

> did you add/remove mods during a running game? If so, did you clean your save?

> are you using stability tools like Crash Fixes and/or at least a SKSE.ini?

>  do you have PapyrusUtil 3.3 and did you make sure it didn't get overwritten?

> moving zaz over DDa,i,x might help also (there where some issues in the past, not sure if that still true, because zaz connection to DD got removed)

> do you get CTD with all zaz items or only with specific ones like heels?

> did you manipulate any files yourself? (not sure what this is 66 42 FormsEdit.esp )

> did the CTD happens since you started the game or is it happening all the sudden?

> do you save/load your game at least once if you start a new game?

 

 

 

[damnvox]

30 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

uff, I can't see anything right away that looks obviously wrong.

CTD is interacting with inventory outfits might come from Skeleton issues or conflicting mods maybe broken meshes

You crash only if you interact with zaz items right?

Are you using MO or Vortex as your Mod Manager?

 

I can only guess:

> move XPMSE further down in LO and check if it got overwritten

> Did you install the UUNP ZAZ version and did you run bodyslide?

> maybe a bashed patch helps if it a mod conflict

> did you add ZAZ on a running game and do you have the same issues if you start a new game?

> did you add/remove mods during a running game? If so, did you clean your save?

> are you using stability tools like Crash Fixes and/or at least a SKSE.ini?

>  do you have PapyrusUtil 3.3 and did you make sure it didn't get overwritten?

> moving zaz over DDa,i,x might help also (there where some issues in the past, not sure if that still true, because zaz connection to DD got removed)

> do you get CTD with all zaz items or only with specific ones like heels?

> did you manipulate any files yourself? (not sure what this is 66 42 FormsEdit.esp )

> did the CTD happens since you started the game or is it happening all the sudden?

> do you save/load your game at least once if you start a new game?

 

 

 

1: i havent, i will try that

2: yes, i did. I do that with anything that adds animations

3: perhaps, i will make a new one

4: ZAZ was added to a fresh install and yes, the issue persists with a new game

5: i have not changed any installations since skyrim install

6: I use SKSE and safetyload

7: i have it and yes, it is not overwritten

8: i will try that

9: it seems to happen with all ZaZ items

10: i have manipulated a few but none pertaining to ZaZ. formsedit is the name of EzE's artifact disenchanting mod

11: it's been happening since i started the game but i havent had any real issues with it until now

12: i save twice, once via console and the other via menu whenever i exit the game or do something of note

[donttouchmethere]

30 minutes ago, damnvox said:

yes, i did. I do that with anything that adds animations

I mean building outfits in bodyslide not FNIS

But most zaz devices have no bodyslide and my guess is that you rather get an invisible body than a CTD

Just pocking in the dark

 

There still might be the chance of a mod conflict, somewhat odd tho

Hopefully someone else that read this has an idea.

 

Doesn't happen with DDi,x stuff right?

[Brisl]

10 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

Still not fixed the issue even with all the correct files

 

Here is my FNIS 

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Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground V1.00 ...     ChAnims:17     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:420     CTD:2.6%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ...     ChAnims:42     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...     ChAnims:120     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading dcc-display-model-2 V102 ...     ChAnims:76     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:635(493)     CTD:12.5%     pOpt:1.9%
        NOTE: DD has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:330(330)     CTD:9.3%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...     ChAnims:102(102)     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:370     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.8%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:39     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ...     ChAnims:34(34)     CTD:1.3%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FNISBase V7.5 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ...     ChAnims:21(18)     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading GSPoser V?.? ...     ChAnims:162     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ITortureFramework V1.00 ...     ChAnims:12     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Maria V2.01 ...     ChAnims:52(17)     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading MME V6.07 ...     ChAnims:52     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading PAHE V5 ...     ChAnims:14     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading PAH_HomeSweetHome V1.00 ...     ChAnims:6     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...     ChAnims:1025     CTD:6.5%     pOpt:1.7%
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...     ChAnims:178     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ...     ChAnims:25     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
        NOTE: SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation)
Reading WhiterunBrothel V1.0 ...     ChAnims:8     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...     ChAnims:1669     CTD:7.9%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...     ChAnims:42     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 7 sets: 50 total groups: 197 added file slots: 1463 alternate files: 1158

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...

 5815 animations for 31 mods successfully included (character)
ChAnims: 5815  CTD:53.2%  pOpt:7.5%  max: 10922  LC: 13929 (max. 26162)

 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included.

 

And my LO

  Reveal hidden contents

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     hdtHighHeel.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 10  a     Heels Sound.esm
 11  b     AzarHair.esm
 12  c     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 15  f     RaceCompatibility.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 17 11     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 18 12     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 19 13     paradise_halls.esm
 20 14     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 21 15     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 22 16     ITortureFramework.esm
 23 17     WhiterunBrothel.esm
 24 18     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 25 19     SkyUI.esp
 26 1a     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 31 1f     Ballet Boots.esp
 32 20     KS Hairdo's.esp
 33 21     ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
 34 22     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 35 23     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
 36 24     WhiterunBrothel.esp
 37 25     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 38 26     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 39 27     MilkModNEW.esp
 40 28     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 41 29     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 42 2a     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
 43 2b     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 44 2c     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 45 2d     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 46 2e     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
 47 2f     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 48 30     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 49 31     TS_FetishWardrobe.esp
 50 32     TS_FetishWardrobe_Uncut.esp
 51 33     UIExtensions.esp
 52 34     RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
 53 35     Brows.esp
 54 36     Vindicta.esp
 55 37     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 56 38     K-Girl UUNP.esp
 57 39     [COCO]chunli_qipao.esp
 58 3a     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 59 3b     Bondage Furniture World.esp
 60 3c     KeelyFollowerByAsherz.esp
 61 3d     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 62 3e     Devious Lore.esp
 63 3f     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
 64 40     SimpleSlavery.esp
 65 41     Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
 66 42     DeviousFollowers.esp
 67 43     Eyes of Aber.esp
 68 44     Neithteam Warpaint.esp
 69 45     Lieyes_v1.0.esp
 70 46     SGEyebrows.esp
 71 47     SexLabDefeat.esp
 72 48     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 73 49     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 74 4a     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 75 4b     Luxury Collection.esp
 76 4c     Northgirl.esp
 77 4d     [dint]_NeirAutomataHDT.esp
 78 4e     Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp
 79 4f     Botox.esp
 80 50     Botox_CharGen.esp
 81 51     Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp
 82 52     Glowing Eyes.esp
 83 53     Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
 84 54     MariEyes.esp
 85 55     Kai's Lipstick.esp
 86 56     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 87 57     [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
 88 58     COR_AllRace.esp
 89 59     COR_TheEyesOfBeauty_Compability Patch_1.1.esp
 90 5a     SlaveTats.esp
 91 5b     BetterFreeCamera.esp
 92 5c     dcc-dm2.esp
 93 5d     _GSPoses.esp
 94 5e     S_L_U_T_S.esp
           FoxClub.esp
           PonyTailClub.esp
           HouseOfBurden.esp
           BanneredMareExtension.esp
 95 5f     paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp
 96 60     SOS - Shop.esp
 97 61     Latex Cameo Nurses - Nokou.esp
 98 62     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
 99 63     Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
           Club Riften.esp
100 64     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
101 65     SLRetread.esp
102 66     My Home Is Your Home.esp
103 67     Lyra.esp
104 68     SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
105 69     Shiny Catsuits.esp
106 6a     Slavehouse.esp
107 6b     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
108 6c     GagSFX.esp
109 6d     Botox - TEoB Patch.esp
110 6e     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
111 6f     DeleteItems.esp
112 70     FNISSexyMove.esp
113 71     FNIS.esp
114 72     MilkModNEW CF.esp
115 73     MilkModNEW HF.esp
116 74     MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
117 75     Myhouse.esp
118 76     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
119 77     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
120 78     pahe-tdf-patch.esp
121 79     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
122 7a     My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
123 7b     Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp
124 7c     The Bondage House.esp
125 7d     SLAnimLoader.esp
126 7e     Animation Objects - Merged.esp
127 7f     Poser Hotkeys.esp
128 80     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
129 81     ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
130 82     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 

 

Double checked all Animation folders and Behaviour folders, and still the animations ingame don't work, still giving the x-cross pose

 

I have all the correct hkx files, triple checked them 

 

I'll also clarify, I'm using NNM

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

Its just some consistencies form MME and Zaz

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFA for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFB for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFC for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFD for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFE for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFF for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFG for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFH for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFI for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFJ for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_13 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_14 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
 36 possible consistence issues

 

I honestly have no idea how to fix this issue

 

9 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

I'm gonna have to wait until I have a whole day free to do this, I have like 150 something mods installed, so its gonna take a long time aha

 

Would it be best to uninstall via steam?

 

8 hours ago, Justgingeryt said:

Alrighty, I'll start all of this next week as I'm away and see if this works!

10 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

 

What I really think about your Skyrim installation atm: kill it and restart. It's impossible for us to know what you messed up by now.

 

 

I can agree only Mr. Pickles with his respond if the hkx files are present then is something now wrong with your NMM Virtual Install Folder and the Skyrim Install and the overwrites that NMM cause so that the animation is overwritten by something else and not correct used witht the torture rack ... at this point i can advise you only if you wanna perform a reinstall to switch to MO2 ... is the best because with MO2 you can much better exclude issues as with NMM because overwrites of mods are better to handle and you can move mods in the list so that the file overwrites change in virtual data folder ... this you never can handle with NMM so good ...

 

If you wanna perform a reinstall then is the best to think about to switch to MO2 now ... this is your great and best chance to use the best ModManager for Skyrim now ... best basic Tutorials for MO you can find here by GamerPoet. To found out currently whats cause the overwrite in your NMM virtual Instalöl folder that the animation is not correct used is "pain in the ass" with NMM ( Nexus Mod Manager )

 

 

[t.ara]

^^^^MO is not the ideal choice-you will run from one nonsence into another one. I personally could not use MO, because it´s drastically taking influence on the folder-structure. Before the MO I can only suggest to learn to install mods manually, so that you learn how skyrim WORKS with mods. If you have understood that, you maybe then can go further. If one tells here to go into this or that folder, you will be looking inside the wrong area, because MO puts a new folder-structure onto the system and the stuff is read out different then. So you have exactly to know what happens on the DRIVE, if not (and if you don´t know where to look then), you maybe change things inside a folder, which has no influence on the running game !!! (MO = in that case an easy way to shoot yourself an arrow into your own knee !!!)

 

Mostly important, that you start from new and not install wildly everything at once:

 

-install skyrim, check the installation-play little vanilla, install SKSE with t´s attributes-take a coffe, relax and add essential stuff to have a first basics for more complicated stuff-check again the gameplay then

-then relax and install FNIS sexLab....then check the gameplay, take a coffe and check sexlab with a little quest-mod

-if that works you can add then zap 8 after the installation and proper handling, it will work-like it works with older versions

-then install maybe questmods which use zap

 

-DD and it´s family-mods are not working together with zap-it is possible, that DD-family-mods have impact on zap if they somehow override it´s framework or maybe change other parts of zap-I don´t know the specific contence of DD (DD never was working for me with ZAP 6 or 7 in the past-there happened different issures-most users want to have both but that is simply risky in some way different quest-mods have influence on both frameworks then)

 

-the installation should be specified to the quest-mod, which you want to play-puting all LL-mods together and want to play them side by side or all together is a wanted myth and if you do that, you are lost with your installation because nobody is able to help concerning strange effects

 

-at least you can only do the installation by yourself and you have to get a feel for things which are working well and things, which do not work together...things means "mods"

 

I can only make advertisement for WYRE BASH because it is quick and does exactly that, what NEXUS NMM was trying to do for years, but in a better way. A last word for updates: If you have a well working system and if your things become outdated doesn´t mean your living behind the moon. Every update has a risk inside, that it will create problems with other mods, which worked well together before that update. Lot of mods have lot of techniques inside, which have not be used or which have been used only particulary. One of this example is HDT-PE, which is supported even by the professional HAVOK Contence-Tool (HCT) for 3dsmax, which means, that lot of parts of the game can be created in a professional way. One example for this  are the  HDT-assets or other physics-based stuff. While this technique has been used very less, another physics came little later: SMP. SMP has no professional support and is "different". Both can be used together without problems if you have a correct installation and the correct versions. If you have a wrong version of SMP, you at once get into problems and it´s then better to use only one of this both. This depends always of the correct installation and versions. IT´S NOT possible to teach all this inside of one answer. LL has lot of forums, where you have to read carefully what to use for best and which version is working together well with another version.

 

Instead of the coffee you can also drink for best water or lemonade:-)

[Justgingeryt]

15 hours ago, t.ara said:

^^^^MO is not the ideal choice-you will run from one nonsence into another one. I personally could not use MO, because it´s drastically taking influence on the folder-structure. Before the MO I can only suggest to learn to install mods manually, so that you learn how skyrim WORKS with mods. If you have understood that, you maybe then can go further. If one tells here to go into this or that folder, you will be looking inside the wrong area, because MO puts a new folder-structure onto the system and the stuff is read out different then. So you have exactly to know what happens on the DRIVE, if not (and if you don´t know where to look then), you maybe change things inside a folder, which has no influence on the running game !!! (MO = in that case an easy way to shoot yourself an arrow into your own knee !!!)

 

Mostly important, that you start from new and not install wildly everything at once:

 

-install skyrim, check the installation-play little vanilla, install SKSE with t´s attributes-take a coffe, relax and add essential stuff to have a first basics for more complicated stuff-check again the gameplay then

-then relax and install FNIS sexLab....then check the gameplay, take a coffe and check sexlab with a little quest-mod

-if that works you can add then zap 8 after the installation and proper handling, it will work-like it works with older versions

-then install maybe questmods which use zap

 

-DD and it´s family-mods are not working together with zap-it is possible, that DD-family-mods have impact on zap if they somehow override it´s framework or maybe change other parts of zap-I don´t know the specific contence of DD (DD never was working for me with ZAP 6 or 7 in the past-there happened different issures-most users want to have both but that is simply risky in some way different quest-mods have influence on both frameworks then)

 

-the installation should be specified to the quest-mod, which you want to play-puting all LL-mods together and want to play them side by side or all together is a wanted myth and if you do that, you are lost with your installation because nobody is able to help concerning strange effects

 

-at least you can only do the installation by yourself and you have to get a feel for things which are working well and things, which do not work together...things means "mods"

 

I can only make advertisement for WYRE BASH because it is quick and does exactly that, what NEXUS NMM was trying to do for years, but in a better way. A last word for updates: If you have a well working system and if your things become outdated doesn´t mean your living behind the moon. Every update has a risk inside, that it will create problems with other mods, which worked well together before that update. Lot of mods have lot of techniques inside, which have not be used or which have been used only particulary. One of this example is HDT-PE, which is supported even by the professional HAVOK Contence-Tool (HCT) for 3dsmax, which means, that lot of parts of the game can be created in a professional way. One example for this  are the  HDT-assets or other physics-based stuff. While this technique has been used very less, another physics came little later: SMP. SMP has no professional support and is "different". Both can be used together without problems if you have a correct installation and the correct versions. If you have a wrong version of SMP, you at once get into problems and it´s then better to use only one of this both. This depends always of the correct installation and versions. IT´S NOT possible to teach all this inside of one answer. LL has lot of forums, where you have to read carefully what to use for best and which version is working together well with another version.

 

Instead of the coffee you can also drink for best water or lemonade:-)

Absolutely love this T.ara! 
 

thanks for all the advice and when I have a day free I’ll be doing a fresh install of Skyrim and start to build it up again!

 

as much as I understand DD and Zap not agreeing with eachother I’ll more than likely still use them both, as my past experience with them is that they generally play well together (but I also know that these issues could be because of DD)

 

I’ll try again but use Zap lower in the LO, maybe I’ve even found a bug with DD and Zap, but as you said, you already know they don’t play well together!

 

i’ll redo everything again and see where that gets me!

 

again thanks for the responses everyone

 

P.S us British people drink lots of tea so it’ll be a tea over a coffee

[Brisl]

21 hours ago, t.ara said:

^^^^MO is not the ideal choice-you will run from one nonsence into another one. I personally could not use MO, because it´s drastically taking influence on the folder-structure. Before the MO I can only suggest to learn to install mods manually, so that you learn how skyrim WORKS with mods. If you have understood that, you maybe then can go further.

mmm i think every one prefer a specific modmanager but you are right ... if you install mods manually is the best way to learn how Skyrim works at this point i agree with you. I use MO since years and ok yes he change the folder install structure and for newcomers is it more difficult as for others to understand how its then work ... but i prefer MO and know how to use it ... its better as NMM i think, i used NMM years ago and its was a pain with troubleshoot individual issue. Since i use MO i can pinpoint issues easier, presupposed you know how MO handle the folder structure for installed mods. But i think whats Manager you wanna use is a individual decision.

 

21 hours ago, t.ara said:

Mostly important, that you start from new and not install wildly everything at once:

 

-install skyrim, check the installation-play little vanilla, install SKSE with t´s attributes-take a coffe, relax and add essential stuff to have a first basics for more complicated stuff-check again the gameplay then

-then relax and install FNIS sexLab....then check the gameplay, take a coffe and check sexlab with a little quest-mod

-if that works you can add then zap 8 after the installation and proper handling, it will work-like it works with older versions

-then install maybe questmods which use zap

 

-DD and it´s family-mods are not working together with zap-it is possible, that DD-family-mods have impact on zap if they somehow override it´s framework or maybe change other parts of zap-I don´t know the specific contence of DD (DD never was working for me with ZAP 6 or 7 in the past-there happened different issures-most users want to have both but that is simply risky in some way different quest-mods have influence on both frameworks then)

 

-the installation should be specified to the quest-mod, which you want to play-puting all LL-mods together and want to play them side by side or all together is a wanted myth and if you do that, you are lost with your installation because nobody is able to help concerning strange effects

 

-at least you can only do the installation by yourself and you have to get a feel for things which are working well and things, which do not work together...things means "mods"

 

I can only make advertisement for WYRE BASH because it is quick and does exactly that, what NEXUS NMM was trying to do for years, but in a better way. A last word for updates: If you have a well working system and if your things become outdated doesn´t mean your living behind the moon. Every update has a risk inside, that it will create problems with other mods, which worked well together before that update. Lot of mods have lot of techniques inside, which have not be used or which have been used only particulary. One of this example is HDT-PE, which is supported even by the professional HAVOK Contence-Tool (HCT) for 3dsmax, which means, that lot of parts of the game can be created in a professional way. One example for this  are the  HDT-assets or other physics-based stuff. While this technique has been used very less, another physics came little later: SMP. SMP has no professional support and is "different". Both can be used together without problems if you have a correct installation and the correct versions. If you have a wrong version of SMP, you at once get into problems and it´s then better to use only one of this both. This depends always of the correct installation and versions. IT´S NOT possible to teach all this inside of one answer. LL has lot of forums, where you have to read carefully what to use for best and which version is working together well with another version.

 

Instead of the coffee you can also drink for best water or lemonade:-)

At this advises ... i can only agree ... best information that can be given

[Justgingeryt]

On 3/15/2018 at 12:15 AM, saionji11 said:

I'm having a heck of a time trying to get npc's to align correctly with furniture.  I thought it might be a conflict with other furniture mods so I tried disabling any I could see but every time I direct an npc to use a device they start in about the right place, then slide way out of alignment.  It's particularly weird since it seems that when I have the pc interact with anything it appears to function correctly.  Is there any sort of fix for this?

I know it been a while, but if you download Zaz helper addon, there's a spell which allows you to realign NPC's, just use that spell. works like a charm! ?

[Garagulu]

Hello everyone ...i have a problem...while i am scrolling through the inventory of zaz equipment in game the game crash...can someone help me?