quest Thief

[artistaa]

57 minutes ago, Seyhtan31 said:

I have to say, Dogma really outdone himself with this update. Don't know about the 1.2.0 version cause i wasn't at home that time, played the 1.2.1 and it was way less buggy than i expected. And the ones i encountered were easily solved with simple console commands. Crashed only 2 times but i take my old & potato pc responsible from it. Overall it was really clean, playable and fun update for me. 

 

About the content, it was satisfying. But you can feel the little rush in some scenes & dialogues etc but i think we can expect some additional stuff in the later. And i'm sure i still did miss quite a bunch content even if i tried lot of different paths.

 

Rest contains lots of spoilers and personal thoughts;

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The red mushroom thingy is annoying a.f, one moment its there and then gone, good luck finding it again. And adding it into your inventory with additem menu doesn't work either. Someone mentioned using phantoms necklage to become invisible, and then get it. Only that way i was able to do that. Just go free cam after you leave the house, find the mushrooms exact spot first (it was behind the house for me) then put the necklage and grab that bastard. Then run like hell back to the house cause it tries to break free.

 

The lumberjack house part can be quite messy, you go there and meet the kid but others try to kick you out and call the guards. It happened twice, then in the third there was only him so it went good. Also teleporting him to you seems work too.

 

In the love triangle thing, i couldn't figure out how we side with Tussius(?) (really bad at remembering names), he expects some sort of plan from us but thats it, no other clue on what to do so i just went with the guard route instead. If there is any other way to ruin the two lovebirds relationship i'd love to know lol

 

If you have high karma you can actually convince the ''debt collector'' into re-assigning the contract to you, but then he tells if your debt goes beyond 10.000 they'll send thugs after you. Didn't try that one yet, but seems like a possible bad ending perhaps? But if your karma is low, then the scene goes very long with pc trying to convince him.

 

Think it over, after investigating three possible thiefs and finding nothing, it says think it over and i honestly thought ''wait, is that it, the end of the update?''. Thank lord it wasn't, you just had to wait one or two days.

 

In the ritual, script seems to get frozen(?) for some reason, but disabling and enabling the Hirada(?) seems to fix it.

 

The mini game with the Druid seems broken, no matter how much i try the purple bar never goes beyond half. But then again, this is Dogma we are talkin about, maybe it was supposed to be that way so it can lead to something else, who knows? I just decided to wait for him to do the job.

 

Collecting seeds; Appereantly there is no dialogue option for Lod or Viggi for that, you just need to meet Viggi at the tavern, and meet with the Lod at his house to sleep with him. Also it seems there is another way to collect seed from the old man, at least pc mentions ''has to be some other way'' before you enter his house, but have no idea what that way is.

 

This may sound hypocritical a bit since i'm not good at english either, but sometimes it gets very hard to understand what they are talking about (but then again, its not Dogma's native language and he still managed to deliver his best regardless), or some dialogues passes too fast before you can even read it. I assume its because of the differences between english and russian languages.

 

Once or twice the scenes didn't end properly and pc started falling down from sky, but luckily landed exactly where she was before. Maybe my pc is too old to handle fast stuff anymore.. (sad)

 

The hidden keys, i never managed to find any of them, be it inside Tussius(?)'s place, or the ending sequences where we try to get our stuff from a chest. Only on Viggi's ending it was clear, but other two endings i just couldn't so had to use console to unlock chests.

 

The end scenes feels a bit rushed, and mostly you don't even see whats goin on in there. Also it doesn't feels like you are a mother of that kid or even living there cause everything has ''steal'' on it instead of ''take''. A minor detail ofc i just wanted to point out.

 

 

 

This mod went beyond of just being a mod at this point, in fact, its the only reason why i still didn't uninstall Skyrim from my pc. I really hope Dogma keeps working on it and delivers new stuff, it almost feels like an entirelly different, standalone game at this point.

 

PS: Boy we really need a gallery mod for this one xD

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About the love triangle thing, after he asks you for a plan, you speak with the mill owner that rents a room and ask him for stories, he then shows up at your room after 8pm i think (and theres a scene). After that you can talk with Tussius to tell him the plan and it will eventually lead to you having a fake date with him so he practice for Julienne. During this fake date you can end up sleeping with him and he forgets about Julienne.

 

[theliddtin]

59 minutes ago, artistaa said:

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About the love triangle thing, after he asks you for a plan, you speak with the mill owner that rents a room and ask him for stories, he then shows up at your room after 8pm i think (and theres a scene). After that you can talk with Tussius to tell him the plan and it will eventually lead to you having a fake date with him so he practice for Julienne. During this fake date you can end up sleeping with him and he forgets about Julienne.

 

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When getting the seed from Lod, there's an alternate scene in the smithy if you specifically had sex with Lod without demanding for information first.

 

It seemed like waiting out a timer at the end was going to trigger some kind of achievement, but nothing happened.

 

[Seyhtan31]

2 hours ago, artistaa said:

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About the love triangle thing, after he asks you for a plan, you speak with the mill owner that rents a room and ask him for stories, he then shows up at your room after 8pm i think (and theres a scene). After that you can talk with Tussius to tell him the plan and it will eventually lead to you having a fake date with him so he practice for Julienne. During this fake date you can end up sleeping with him and he forgets about Julienne.

 

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Can you explain more? I tried but few days after the date, pc says she should check on him to ask how it went, but it ends up him being upset and lost the girl and never wants to see the pc again. And during our date nothing happened either. I think if i could try all the combinations i may figure it out, but i'm also getting too many crashes on that date, even completing it once is a challenge for me

 

[almette]

Is there different scene if we return to old man with gape condition, and butt plug? Or we cant return to him after such time? Just wonder.

[disdain18]

22 hours ago, Highborn said:

It happens in which time of the day?

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This exactly. You have to actually see the girl put a thing under the rock just in front of her house (I usually waited till 11-12 in the morning) and your character actually comments about it. Then you have to pick it up in the evening, but not before you see the guy pick it up from the rock. (Around 6 in the evening usually worked for me).

Just an extra note: If your character does NOT comment about the girl putting something under the rock you have to try again till it happens. It happened to me once or twice

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by disdain18

[artistaa]

13 hours ago, Seyhtan31 said:

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Can you explain more? I tried but few days after the date, pc says she should check on him to ask how it went, but it ends up him being upset and lost the girl and never wants to see the pc again. And during our date nothing happened either. I think if i could try all the combinations i may figure it out, but i'm also getting too many crashes on that date, even completing it once is a challenge for me

 

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The path i did to have sex at the end of the fake date was: When he goes downstairs to change clothes, you sweep the dust while you wait. Then you tell him his clothes look childish, he undresses and with enough karma (dont know the exact value) you can blow him. Just tell him you wanted to taste it and drag the conversation until he cums. After that you go outside for dinner, tell him it looks very romantic and that he was talking about slaughterfish. After this you pickup the dishes from the table to bring them inside.

Once inside, he asks you tell to tell a story about yourself, you agree and then move closer to him, after this he should mention about you sleeping on the bed and him on the floor but you can suggest to sleep together. Then theres a scene and he doesnt give a fck about Julienne anymore saying you are better xD

I hope i didnt get it wrong anywhere, i cant play to test it again now but i believe it was this path. 

About the crashes, i did a few runs without a single one, so it was pretty smooth on my end.

 

[heartlesskiwi]

Hey, so I think I managed to go through most of the content + both versions of all 3 endings. Maybe I got lucky, but despite all the warnings I had relatively few errors, most minor, some of them mentioned before (playing the SE version 1.2.0.1):
 

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• I didn't manage to start/go through Faida brach even once (froze during bartending scene once, Tesius would not even start the chain (walk up to Faida after talking to him) the other times I've attempted)
• Lodvar's minigame UI doesn't show up, but this can be solved with the autosave feature (reloading at the beginning of the minigame)
• Olda does not walk up during Lodvar scenes, had to manually target + teleport her
• There are some time-related inconsistencies - sometimes characters don't show up at their schedule. Also fun with Tesius's guard does not work sometimes even though it's the correct hour
• The ritual gets stuck as the character ascends (disabling + enabling Hilda progresses the scene fine though)
• The porter scene seems to enable a buggy dialogue option with all NPCs (something along the lines of "Hey, wanna fuck?"). This glitches the character.

 

These are all the errors that appeared for me. Kudos to Dogma on the release. I really liked the content, especially the slowed down pace, where you get to invest in the involved characters in the process. One subjective criticism would be that the character feels almost too slutty now - sex is no longer a last resort option, but becomes the immediate idea the character has. But I guess it makes sense from the story perspective, after all the MC went through.

[disdain18]

21 hours ago, Seyhtan31 said:

I have to say, Dogma really outdone himself with this update. Don't know about the 1.2.0 version cause i wasn't at home that time, played the 1.2.1 and it was way less buggy than i expected. And the ones i encountered were easily solved with simple console commands. Crashed only 2 times but i take my old & potato pc responsible from it. Overall it was really clean, playable and fun update for me. 

 

About the content, it was satisfying. But you can feel the little rush in some scenes & dialogues etc but i think we can expect some additional stuff in the later. And i'm sure i still did miss quite a bunch content even if i tried lot of different paths.

 

Rest contains lots of spoilers and personal thoughts;

  Hide contents

 

The red mushroom thingy is annoying a.f, one moment its there and then gone, good luck finding it again. And adding it into your inventory with additem menu doesn't work either. Someone mentioned using phantoms necklage to become invisible, and then get it. Only that way i was able to do that. Just go free cam after you leave the house, find the mushrooms exact spot first (it was behind the house for me) then put the necklage and grab that bastard. Then run like hell back to the house cause it tries to break free.

 

The lumberjack house part can be quite messy, you go there and meet the kid but others try to kick you out and call the guards. It happened twice, then in the third there was only him so it went good. Also teleporting him to you seems work too.

 

In the love triangle thing, i couldn't figure out how we side with Tussius(?) (really bad at remembering names), he expects some sort of plan from us but thats it, no other clue on what to do so i just went with the guard route instead. If there is any other way to ruin the two lovebirds relationship i'd love to know lol

 

If you have high karma you can actually convince the ''debt collector'' into re-assigning the contract to you, but then he tells if your debt goes beyond 10.000 they'll send thugs after you. Didn't try that one yet, but seems like a possible bad ending perhaps? But if your karma is low, then the scene goes very long with pc trying to convince him.

 

Think it over, after investigating three possible thiefs and finding nothing, it says think it over and i honestly thought ''wait, is that it, the end of the update?''. Thank lord it wasn't, you just had to wait one or two days.

 

In the ritual, script seems to get frozen(?) for some reason, but disabling and enabling the Hirada(?) seems to fix it.

 

The mini game with the Druid seems broken, no matter how much i try the purple bar never goes beyond half. But then again, this is Dogma we are talkin about, maybe it was supposed to be that way so it can lead to something else, who knows? I just decided to wait for him to do the job.

 

Collecting seeds; Appereantly there is no dialogue option for Lod or Viggi for that, you just need to meet Viggi at the tavern, and meet with the Lod at his house to sleep with him. Also it seems there is another way to collect seed from the old man, at least pc mentions ''has to be some other way'' before you enter his house, but have no idea what that way is.

 

This may sound hypocritical a bit since i'm not good at english either, but sometimes it gets very hard to understand what they are talking about (but then again, its not Dogma's native language and he still managed to deliver his best regardless), or some dialogues passes too fast before you can even read it. I assume its because of the differences between english and russian languages.

 

Once or twice the scenes didn't end properly and pc started falling down from sky, but luckily landed exactly where she was before. Maybe my pc is too old to handle fast stuff anymore.. (sad)

 

The hidden keys, i never managed to find any of them, be it inside Tussius(?)'s place, or the ending sequences where we try to get our stuff from a chest. Only on Viggi's ending it was clear, but other two endings i just couldn't so had to use console to unlock chests.

 

The end scenes feels a bit rushed, and mostly you don't even see whats goin on in there. Also it doesn't feels like you are a mother of that kid or even living there cause everything has ''steal'' on it instead of ''take''. A minor detail ofc i just wanted to point out.

 

 

 

This mod went beyond of just being a mod at this point, in fact, its the only reason why i still didn't uninstall Skyrim from my pc. I really hope Dogma keeps working on it and delivers new stuff, it almost feels like an entirelly different, standalone game at this point.

 

PS: Boy we really need a gallery mod for this one xD

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Two things to notice. for the red mushroom thing there are two big bushes , at the locations the mushroom spawn and once you walk into them you will see a message "Trigger on" or something like that. You 're basically invisible when into those ,so you can just wait for the mushroom to come close and grab it. 

And for the key in the house its downstairs ,right behind the stairs,on the shelf , under the pauldron ( I think you can't take/steal the pauldron only drag it)

 

[tomek8866]

Hi guys, I have a problem with disappearance of Viggi Cheesemonger in Solitude - he is not present by his store. When my PC is near it, she
walks next to it and nothing is haepening. Game is playing, but my character is stuck. Any help how to 'resurrect' Viggi? I'm about checking Varg's
schedule.

[Seyhtan31]

Scenes i've seen in the last update so far (and please add yours if its not listed in here, with some tips to how if you don't mind);

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Scene with tusius when we go on a date with him

Scene with his guard

Scene with that drunk husband

Scene if we try to claim his debt from the debt collectors (found two variations, high karma and scene is short, low karma and scene goes on very long cause he is not convinced)
Scene with the guy under the bridge, who takes us places with his boat (i really suck with names lol)

Scene with the guy who rents a room

Seed gathering scenes (Lod, Viggi, old man) and their endings (tho it seems to be some different variations with some of them, for example the Viggi ending depends wheter you accepted that assistant job or not, need to try)

Druid scene, didn't manage to win the game tho, maybe it isn't meant to be win so it can lead something else? Needs testing.

 

And thats all, pretty few scenes i know, but i just couldn't figure out the others.

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Seyhtan31

[disdain18]

5 hours ago, heartlesskiwi said:

Hey, so I think I managed to go through most of the content + both versions of all 3 endings. Maybe I got lucky, but despite all the warnings I had relatively few errors, most minor, some of them mentioned before (playing the SE version 1.2.0.1):
 

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• I didn't manage to start/go through Faida brach even once (froze during bartending scene once, Tesius would not even start the chain (walk up to Faida after talking to him) the other times I've attempted)
• Lodvar's minigame UI doesn't show up, but this can be solved with the autosave feature (reloading at the beginning of the minigame)
• Olda does not walk up during Lodvar scenes, had to manually target + teleport her
• There are some time-related inconsistencies - sometimes characters don't show up at their schedule. Also fun with Tesius's guard does not work sometimes even though it's the correct hour
• The ritual gets stuck as the character ascends (disabling + enabling Hilda progresses the scene fine though)
• The porter scene seems to enable a buggy dialogue option with all NPCs (something along the lines of "Hey, wanna fuck?"). This glitches the character.

 

These are all the errors that appeared for me. Kudos to Dogma on the release. I really liked the content, especially the slowed down pace, where you get to invest in the involved characters in the process. One subjective criticism would be that the character feels almost too slutty now - sex is no longer a last resort option, but becomes the immediate idea the character has. But I guess it makes sense from the story perspective, after all the MC went through.

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May I ask how you got scenes with Lodvar? I can't seem to get it

 

[disdain18]

Two questions plz for anyone who already found out?

Spoiler

1. How to get Lodvar scenes?

2. Where do you get purple fungal pods? I got the 3 from the cobweb of the spider at the swaps but can't seem to find how to get the rest 2

 

[theliddtin]

1 hour ago, disdain18 said:

Two questions plz for anyone who already found out?

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1. How to get Lodvar scenes?

2. Where do you get purple fungal pods? I got the 3 from the cobweb of the spider at the swaps but can't seem to find how to get the rest 2

 

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1. You can find Lodvar and Olga in the Lumberjack camp at midnight.

 

You can also work for Lodvar, and if you work for long enough he'll invite you to sit on the bench. From there your character can do the "splinter trick" but I haven't been able to get further than that

 

2. The purple fungal pods regrow in that exact location at midnight where you found the cobwebs and spider

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by theliddtin

[disdain18]

59 minutes ago, theliddtin said:

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1. You can find Lodvar and Olga in the Lumberjack camp at midnight.

 

You can also work for Lodvar, and if you work for long enough he'll invite you to sit on the bench. From there your character can do the "splinter trick" but I haven't been able to get further than that

 

2. The purple fungal pods regrow in that exact location at midnight where you found the cobwebs and spider

 

Thanks for the reply.  Yeah still trying to get him to invite me. Unless you mean when he says "slow down it's lunch time" but I don't seem to be able to interract with anything

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, theliddtin said:

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1. You can find Lodvar and Olga in the Lumberjack camp at midnight.

 

You can also work for Lodvar, and if you work for long enough he'll invite you to sit on the bench. From there your character can do the "splinter trick" but I haven't been able to get further than that

 

2. The purple fungal pods regrow in that exact location at midnight where you found the cobwebs and spider

 

When do you get the option to work for him? I missed that in my first walkthrough.

[disdain18]

10 minutes ago, Highborn said:

When do you get the option to work for him? I missed that in my first walkthrough.

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I think, I talked to the innkeeper about Olda and the drunk dude (forget his name)and then you can experience a scene with Lodvar and Olda at the lumberhouse downstairs at nights. that triggers a dialogue with him , where he refuses you and you can just ask him to work for him. I'm stuck at this point though . Might habe it a bit messed up though

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by disdain18

[disdain18]

38 minutes ago, disdain18 said:

Thanks for the reply.  Yeah still trying to get him to invite me. Unless you mean when he says "slow down it's lunch time" but I don't seem to be able to interract with anything

Never mind got it. 

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For the rest you just sit on the bench next to him when he initiates a dialogue. I think that happens after you put two logs on the thingy machine

 

[disdain18]

I think I got the whole part about Lodvar

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The first time you have to time perfectly the "time to take a break part" with "lunchtime part". Basically what happens is that around noon (12.00) it's lunchtime and that's when Olda comes to blow him. So basically what I did I started working at around 10.30 am. After 2-3 logs he said the usual " you can sit and rest if you want" and basically I just waited till around 12 when he says "it's lunchtime" . that's when I sat on the bench next to him and it caused Olda to "catch" us. Then the player mentions they have to try another day. Next day I did the same thing but I do not think it is necessary cause Olda never shows up anyway. I think you just have to take a break and that continues shit with Lodvar

 

[jsk1000]

still having a problem with the old man ending-- 

 

the character i'm using went back after the troll, so maybe that is why?

 

if that is not it, Hulda is not spawning the dialogue 

 

thanks!

[lese8]

@brewmasterhal@DogmaMods

I've been stucked in an Ending of Lod. (I think there are two Endings for Lod)

Sever years later, PC is making love with Lod in his house, someone knock the door. Lod refuse to dress up.

Then nothing happened.

I think someone will come in base on the dialogue in esp. 

Do you know who it is? Share the prid with me that I can reset the NPC.

[Highborn]

I'm stuck with the date event with

 

Tasius. He keeps asking to dress like Julienne, but even buying her clothes and dressing he doesn't recognize them. Other times he says to meet him at evening but nothing happens.

 

Not sure if Common Clothes and WACF are conflicting with this.

 

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7 minutes ago, lese8 said:

@brewmasterhal@DogmaMods

I've been stucked in an Ending of Lod. (I think there are two Endings for Lod)

Sever years later, PC is making love with Lod in his house, someone knock the door. Lod refuse to dress up.

Then nothing happened.

I think someone will come in base on the dialogue in esp. 

Do you know who it is? Share the prid with me that I can reset the NPC.

It's supposed to be a normal client, not a named NPC. I think he is called farmer or something like that. I had that bug and reloading a previous save fixed stuff.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Highborn

[lese8]

Just now, Highborn said:

It's supposed to be a normal client, not a named NPC. I think he is called farmer or something like that. I had that bug and reloading a previous save fixed stuff.

Can you share the Prid with me? 

[brewmasterhal]

2 hours ago, lese8 said:

I've been stucked in an Ending of Lod. (I think there are two Endings for Lod)

Sever years later, PC is making love with Lod in his house, someone knock the door. Lod refuse to dress up.

Then nothing happened.

I think someone will come in base on the dialogue in esp. 

Do you know who it is? Share the prid with me that I can reset the NPC.

Sounds like one of the bugs where a quest alias is not set correctly.

 

I haven't been able to get past the investigation phase of the new content yet, so I'm afraid I'm no good to you.

[theliddtin]

 

10 hours ago, lese8 said:

@brewmasterhal@DogmaMods

I've been stucked in an Ending of Lod. (I think there are two Endings for Lod)

Sever years later, PC is making love with Lod in his house, someone knock the door. Lod refuse to dress up.

Then nothing happened.

I think someone will come in base on the dialogue in esp. 

Do you know who it is? Share the prid with me that I can reset the NPC.

 

The name of the NPC is "farmer" but sadly that's used by a lot of NPCs.

 

I had that scene work properly in the LE, but not in the SE

[almette]

Spoiler

After being released from jail in Solitude in context of being arrested with Cooli, when we teleport Cooli to PC he is saying something like that: "I thought you will rot in jail. Let's continue where we stopped". After that he is following us and telling the same dialogue. It is just a placeholder and there is no scene right now, or there is already a scene?