Devious Devices

[Guest]

I'm getting into AAF mods and I'm wondering if there are any addons for dd similar to dd expansion from SSE with rope restraints.

[vaultbait]

6 hours ago, dabdabman69 said:

I'm getting into AAF mods and I'm wondering if there are any addons for dd similar to dd expansion from SSE with rope restraints.

 

Having never played much less modded Skyrim, I have no idea how DD Expansion fits into the picture. Can you clarify what features you're looking for specifically? There's a rope restraint replacer mesh for the Real Handcuffs mod, for example. There's also going to be rope restraints in the new DD-like bondage framework kziid and EgoBallistic are working on.

[Elsidia]

On 9/5/2022 at 6:03 PM, jbezorg said:

Since this is an issue within fallout4.esm itself. Perhaps the ESL I attached should be included in future RC versions. ( or added directly to the DD ESM )

Sorry for that late answer. I just check notes what left to fix and now i start think why need add this keyword to pipboy - DD itself doesn't check this keyword but uses formlist.

[adurvp28]

hi, I've got 2 question hoping someone could help me, I was using DD 2.0 & changed to this one, sooo I deleted everything related to DD 2.0, as far as I know.

1. do i have to start a new game? (my pc nor npcs have DD on them)

2. I found a slave heels pack that DD 2.0 never read, do that mod is already included on RC8 or i have to install it too? thank you in advanced

[Nivea]

Figured I would post this here but new content added for my male addon for DD: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/22191-devious-devices-rc8-male-addon/

 

Also I am working on fixing and improving the textures for most the items in here so it works correctly for FO4, currently most normal, specs and even materials are not set up to work for FO4 as they are still in Skyrim formats.

[vaultbait]

48 minutes ago, Nivea said:

Also I am working on fixing and improving the textures for most the items in here so it works correctly for FO4, currently most normal, specs and even materials are not set up to work for FO4 as they are still in Skyrim formats.

 

Not to discourage your work (sounds awesome!) but just in case you weren't aware of it, there's already an alternative texture pack here:

 

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, adurvp28 said:

hi, I've got 2 question hoping someone could help me, I was using DD 2.0 & changed to this one, sooo I deleted everything related to DD 2.0, as far as I know.

1. do i have to start a new game? (my pc nor npcs have DD on them)

 

You can probably switch to RC8 on save which previously used 2.0, but I'd keep a backup of the prior save and keep a close eye out for problems just in case.

 

1 hour ago, adurvp28 said:

2. I found a slave heels pack that DD 2.0 never read, do that mod is already included on RC8 or i have to install it too? thank you in advanced

 

J.B.'s Slave Heels mod is already included in DD RC8, you don't need to install a separate copy of it.

[Nivea]

17 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

Not to discourage your work (sounds awesome!) but just in case you weren't aware of it, there's already an alternative texture pack here:

 

 

Yeah I use it too, it still doesnt fix any of those issues though. It upscales the textures but does not change them to work with FO4.

[adurvp28]

2 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

You can probably switch to RC8 on save which previously used 2.0, but I'd keep a backup of the prior save and keep a close eye out for problems just in case.

 

 

J.B.'s Slave Heels mod is already included in DD RC8, you don't need to install a separate copy of it.

thanks for the reply, I was testing it since I posted my comment and doesn't seem to be any issues not even the one that made strap-ons disappear, don't know if the slave heels will be random or crafted so they'll finally  appear/function now, also restrictive boots seem to finally slow down the character too , I found on the archives that it has also a tentacles DD, hope to see it sometime

[valkimedes]

Good Day. My character is using a red dress and i don't know how to unequip it. In the apparel tab there's nothing. Curie has a breast device, in her inventory there's nothing. I have the keys for the devices.
It's devious devices because, when i uncheked it on MO2 the dress disappear.

Edit.
After take a shower (The shower unequip everything) The problem with the red dress is solved. But can't solve the Curie issue. I commanded her to take a shower, she unequip all, but after the shower the breast device keep equiped. I tried to equip her a Bra, heels with custom bodies, but nothing works.

Edited April 30, 2023 by valkimedes

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, adurvp28 said:

hope to see it sometime

It's not used in any mod

[vaultbait]

11 hours ago, adurvp28 said:

don't know if the slave heels will be random or crafted so they'll finally  appear/function now

 

Most mods which equip things from DD don't know about the new items added in RC8 yet, and I expect that to continue to be the case until there's a new official DD release because mod authors are (understandably) hesitant to make an unofficial prerelease of something be a requirement for the mods they publish. You can still craft them at a DD workbench or spawn them with the console, or maybe buy them from Kimy in Goodneighbor (I can't remember if her vendor leveled list has been updated to include them).

 

11 hours ago, adurvp28 said:

I found on the archives that it has also a tentacles DD, hope to see it sometime

 

It works well for me, but like I just said, don't expect other mods to equip it on you yet.

[jbezorg]

17 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Sorry for that late answer. I just check notes what left to fix and now i start think why need add this keyword to pipboy - DD itself doesn't check this keyword but uses formlist.

 

I had to go back to my OP to remind me what the post was about. ?

Yep. I was wrong. I had to go back and redo PIP-Pad.esp so it alters the DD_BondageMittensExclusionList formlist in DD and adds all the Pip-Pad slot variants. I think 2.0 looked for cc_ma_pipboy.

In retrospect. I think that a keyword would work better than a formlist. A keyword could be added to the items by multiple mods w/o conflict and w/o scripting.  If another mod comes along that needs to add something to the DD_BondageMittensExclusionList formlist then it will conflict with my copy of PIP-Pad.esp.

PIP-Pad.esp

Edited April 30, 2023 by jbezorg

[vaultbait]

22 minutes ago, jbezorg said:

I think that a keyword would work better than a formlist. A keyword could be added to the items by multiple mods w/o conflict and w/o scripting. 

 

Same goes for formlist patching: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/4326

[lee3310]

44 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

Same goes for formlist patching: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/4326

Did you try robco LeveledItem(list) injection per chance ?
I have two LLs with GV controlled Chance (of none) and injecting them with papyrus function "vanilla_LL.AddForm(custom_LL as Form, lvl, count)" works perfectly, i can even change the chance value in MCM at runtime but i don't know if i replace the quest/script with robco LL injection i will still get the same result.
Sorry for the off topic but i didn't get a straight answer from RobCo author, he just told me this:

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Global Variables have not been added to RobCo. So you can't add a GV with RobCo

[vaultbait]

47 minutes ago, lee3310 said:

Did you try robco LeveledItem(list) injection per chance ?

 

Yes, I'm using it to add some custom mod items to death leveled lists and vendor leveled lists.

 

47 minutes ago, lee3310 said:

I have two LLs with GV controlled Chance (of none) and injecting them with papyrus function "vanilla_LL.AddForm(custom_LL as Form, lvl, count)" works perfectly, i can even change the chance value in MCM at runtime but i don't know if i replace the quest/script with robco LL injection i will still get the same result.

 

A workaround would be to create a new LLI with the GV-controlled chances you want, and then use RobCo Patcher to add that LLI to the LLI you're wanting to extend.

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, jbezorg said:

In retrospect. I think that a keyword would work better than a formlist. A keyword could be added to the items by multiple mods w/o conflict and w/o scripting.

I study DD 2.0 long time (before RC8) so it never uses a keyword (maybe DCW uses it - need check) - also i plan to add soon this fix, so in second list can be included this keyword too:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/?do=findComment&comment=4044296

As about rewrite pip-pads without that keywords, i'm pessimistic as if some mod rewrite too (example Armorkeywords from AWKCR) and there probably be conflict.

Edited April 30, 2023 by Elsidia

[lee3310]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Yes, I'm using it to add some custom mod items to death leveled lists and vendor leveled lists.

 

 

A workaround would be to create a new LLI with the GV-controlled chances you want, and then use RobCo Patcher to add that LLI to the LLI you're wanting to extend.

Since papyrus injection does the job (if you do it correctly and make sure to prevent multiple injection) i was reluctant to try RobCo but it has it's advantages for sure (like being able to delete forms from LLs) that outweighs the extra dependency.

Edited April 30, 2023 by lee3310

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, lee3310 said:

Since papyrus injection do the job (if you do it correctly and make sure to prevent multiple injection) i was reluctant to try RobCo but it has it's advantages for sure (like being able to delete forms from LLs) that outweigh the extra dependency.

 

For me it's that I can drop a bunch of optional patch plugins from my mod, and significantly simplify both the FOMOD installer menu and general mod startup (removes an entire class of load-time form updates to readd keywords, formlist additions, leveled list injection, and so on).

Edited April 30, 2023 by vaultbait

[Ratamon]

Just a quick question, did DD clothes supported body morphs? Like pregnancy belly. My girls are clad in catsuits and are pregnant, but no changes are seen wearing the suit. Thanks in advance!

[vaultbait]

2 hours ago, Ratamon said:

Just a quick question, did DD clothes supported body morphs? Like pregnancy belly. My girls are clad in catsuits and are pregnant, but no changes are seen wearing the suit. Thanks in advance!

 

They are, but you have to make sure you build them with morphs in BodySlide. Also make sure you have a conversion for the body replacer you're using. DD comes with support for the CBBE body, or you can download conversions for Fusion Girl (there are a couple different ones to choose from depending on whether or not you want HHS configuration for the outfits). I don't know what other body replacers DD has been converted to, if any, besides CBBE and FG.

[Ratamon]

Thanks! Had to check BodySlide tutorial on youtube but now it works, my latex girls are happy

Next probably is to learn how to add colors to latex hood, it's only black, hard to match with colorful suits.

[Fursissypiggy]

am i just blind, or is there no download link?

[vaultbait]

13 minutes ago, Fursissypiggy said:

am i just blind, or is there no download link?

 

When I click on the "Download this file" button from the main file page, it sends my browser to mega.nz and, after a short time, gives a "download" drop-down selector. It's possible your browser is blocking something on the mega.nz site, or that the site is blocking your browser due to use of a VPN.

[jbezorg]

1 hour ago, Fursissypiggy said:

am i just blind, or is there no download link?

RC 8

One flavor of a Fallout 4 Fusion Girl Bodyslide 

Devious Devices - Physics (CBBE) Conversion