Devious Devices

[NuVanDibe]

I'm having trouble with the attempt timers. They never go down. Timed lock shield and exhaustion are stuck at 6 hours.

 

However, if I try dropping the restraints, a copy falls into the world space, the original stays in my inventory, and the timer starts going down. Once I make an attempt, if unsuccessful, the timers lock up again.

 

edit: I'm using RC8.

Edited August 4, 2022 by NuVanDibe

[Robert T]

Are there any bodyslide conversion for TWB?

[Elsidia]

12 hours ago, Robert T said:

Are there any bodyslide conversion for TWB?

I think no, you can do it itself in outfitstudio

[Elsidia]

13 hours ago, NuVanDibe said:

Timed lock shield and exhaustion are stuck at 6 hours.

What restraint stuck on it? - full name or ID

What difficulty level you set? - check DD MCM

What mod puts on this restraint? - full mod name

You try to sleep to go down? it never work - anti sleep cheat system.

When you try drop or drop item to ground - all timers and variables is reset as original Skyrim and Fallout 4 DD variables bug. It not even fixed in Skyrim, where are DD regular updates.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Elsidia

[NuVanDibe]

On 8/5/2022 at 3:27 AM, Elsidia said:

What restraint stuck on it? - full name or ID

What difficulty level you set? - check DD MCM

What mod puts on this restraint? - full mod name

You try to sleep to go down? it never work - anti sleep cheat system.

When you try drop or drop item to ground - all timers and variables is reset as original Skyrim and Fallout 4 DD variables bug. It not even fixed in Skyrim, where are DD regular updates.

 

Vanilla things. Steel Leg Irons, Steel Collar, Steel Wrist Shackles...

4

Just the default Devious Devices RC8. I put the restraints on myself.

I wait 6, sleep 6 hours, I stand around 6 hours, nothing lets the timer go down.

If I drop an item to the ground, and then either stand around or sleep 6 hours, it lets me try again. Once I do, if I fail, the timer never goes down until it's dropped again. On top of that, the item duplicates, as the original one falls to the ground while the copy stays in my inventory.

[Elsidia]

12 hours ago, NuVanDibe said:

I wait 6, sleep 6 hours, I stand around 6 hours, nothing lets the timer go down.

If it not work in that way, then probably is damaged DD mod, some outdated patches or mods rewrite scripts, or save is damaged.

But first how works timer.

1) First time when you put device you can't unlock device by key because timer don't allow (random time by 3 - 7 hours for difficulty 4). But you can struggle, picklock or cut. After that starts timer 3 hours for difficulty 4. So if you have timer 6 hours , that means you try to open with key, or difficulty not 4 for escape attempt.  So if you can unlock item without timer, then:  a) you have damaged mod  b) this item is old from previous DD and is damaged. Destroy it, and get new. Also to check how it works: start new game and get out of Vault111 - there time not going, because timers is freeze.  And then spawn DD item, put it on and try check how timers work.

2) How works timer itself? It goes down only in two cases - a) naturally pass game time. You must do different things and when hour is gone, timer decreases by hour b) waiting on chair - there no anti-cheat system, so it still works.  If you try sleep, timer not works, as there is anti-cheat system and you can sleep 1000 hours, but still you need 6 hours for unlock.

3) When you try throw item on ground it resets all timers. (DD and Skyrim bug) So if you need 5 hours for escape and try throw it on ground, now you need again 6 hours to unlock. But you can struggle out as this action have no timer and it's reset again.  Also if you can unlock without timer, that can mean, that this item is damaged, because naturally it holds wrong properties on.

Also maybe you have some mod, what manipulate with game time, because DD is confused as it use for timer game time.

That's all what i can say for that.

UPD: there no Steel Leg irons. There is only Silver Steel Leg Irons and i take it as for timer example. If you have Steel Leg irons, it's added from another mod and can be incompatible with DD RC8.

Edited August 7, 2022 by Elsidia

[izzyknows]

57 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

there no Steel Leg irons.

The Steel Leg irons are from the Strange Body found between Sanctuary & Red Rocket.

 

Spoiler

 

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, izzyknows said:

The Steel Leg irons are from the Strange Body found between Sanctuary & Red Rocket.

Sorry i check DD 2.0 as it's my main account. Ok later will check  DD 2.0 RC8 on second account)

Edited August 7, 2022 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

On 8/7/2022 at 1:14 AM, NuVanDibe said:

Steel Leg Irons

Ok this isn't vanilla thing, this is from strange body added by RC8. But at least all parameters are as original items from DD. When you put item byself - it's have random timed shield 3 - 7 hours.

When you open with key in most cases it's opens with first time unless you failed or break a lock. Also after that you still need 3 hours for next try.  For work with key there is shield randomized 3 - 7 hours but most it sets 6 hours) I speak of course about 4 difficulty. So definitely something is broke in your mods. Can you publish mod list? I'm not good with ancient mods list especially if there 250+ mods, but maybe others can say what is wrong. You can try run DD RC8 with minimal requirements and see, if it works.  Or remove one mod and see if DD starts work so you will find guilty mod. 

And timer goes down only on chair waiting or other waiting, but not by sleeping. 

UPD: never mind  it's random. I try it put on me and shield is 5 hours. So.

UPD2: Steel leg iron work with timer as any other items, so try put this item few times. If timer not change (always 6 hours) so something is bad with your game - randomizer not work or .... can't imagine what.  C++ runtime is damaged?

Edited August 8, 2022 by Elsidia

[Spaceguest991]

So I've been having a issue for quite a while where DD won't be applied from other mods, and it seems to happen with with both DD 2.0 and RC8.

 

So mods like AFF Violate no DD will get put on after a scene or seemly or very rarely and the mod AFF Sexual Harassment it seems approaches won't apply random DD and only time I see SH applying DD is from the flirt approach where a ball mouth gag is applied but nothing else. But handcuffs and the shock collar from real handcuffs are still can be applied.

 

I'm pretty sure this is a problem on my end I don't know how to go about fixing it.

 

 

 

 

[Misato Kuroshi]

Hello i've an issues with DD 2.0. when i get restrained the restrain won't come off no matter what. the only things that come off are Handcuffs and Shock Collar. i try waiting days and days but nothing happen, no message with timers appear or so. i tried with DD Bench unlock since i'm in an ongoing playthru, a message appear that the device is unlocked but they wont come off, even with unequip all i still have the animation with my leg restrained (when i have a leg restrain)

 

any idea how to solve without a start over?

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, UmpaLumpaHD said:

even with unequip all i still have the animation with my leg restrained (when i have a leg restrain)

Well, using console commands will break shite but good. There are scripts attached to the restraints that need to be terminated correctly during removal.

To get the leg hobble animation to end, craft & equip the restraint you used the unequip command on. Then remove it correctly. But it sounds like you have a bad install anyway, so I'd start a new run and get things working correctly.

[Elsidia]

12 hours ago, Spaceguest991 said:

where DD won't be applied from other mods,

AAF violate will work good with DD 2.0, sometimes it buggy with followers.

As for

12 hours ago, Spaceguest991 said:

AFF Sexual Harassment

you need Roggs item manager https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5259-roggvirs-dd-items-manager/ as this mod doesn't know how to apply restraints without this mod.

 

UpD: If you use AAF, you need get fix for DD 2.0 to stop taking items off, when starts sex secene. in DD 2.0 RC8 this fix is included into mod.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Elsidia

[Spaceguest991]

10 hours ago, Elsidia said:

AAF violate will work good with DD 2.0, sometimes it buggy with followers.

As for

you need Roggs item manager https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5259-roggvirs-dd-items-manager/ as this mod doesn't know how to apply restraints without this mod.

 

UpD: If you use AAF, you need get fix for DD 2.0 to stop taking items off, when starts sex secene. in DD 2.0 RC8 this fix is included into mod.

Ah, Thank you it looks like not having Roggs item manager was the problem.

 

I was trying to play with it off since I was using RC8 and thought if I had it turned off then the slave heels would show up but I didn't know it world cause problems by not having it.

[Elsidia]

41 minutes ago, Spaceguest991 said:

if I had it turned off then the slave heels would show up

It can't be disabled because roggs manager don't know about heels from RC8.

[deathmorph]

On 7/29/2022 at 1:26 AM, izzyknows said:

Still, NEVER put DD items on NPC's as it's always been an issue the causes the engine to freak out.

 

Does this also apply to companions that can be equipped with DD via Violate?

[izzyknows]

28 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

 

Does this also apply to companions that can be equipped with DD via Violate?

Yep. Set it to player only and save yourself a lot of headaches.

[deathmorph]

From the links I can find now I can download an RC8 which is about 340MB in size. I installed an RC8, which is about 430 MB in size. However, I can't find the link anymore.
I suppose I would have to switch here, right? Does this require a new game?

[vaultbait]

2 hours ago, deathmorph said:

From the links I can find now I can download an RC8 which is about 340MB in size. I installed an RC8, which is about 430 MB in size. However, I can't find the link anymore.
I suppose I would have to switch here, right? Does this require a new game?

 

Are you sure it was RC8 and not an earlier RC? The earlier ones were larger (I forget why), but Devious Devices RC8 Full.7z is 332,917KB on disk for me.

[Elsidia]

Я в полном (censored by host) от того, как работает Фаллоут4 движок....

[wishwecould]

Love the mod, makes for some fun play, however the whole plug thing...INSANELY ANNOYING...  too hard to get thte damn thing out and cant stop them from being applied.  seems like every thing I do it gets applied and is seriously interupting the game play.  immagine a mosquito buzzing in your ear 24/7/365....yeah quite frigging annouying every 50 feet she stops to rub herself and squirt a little. and the constant moaning OMFG!!!!! STOP IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I HAVE LOOKED THRU EVERY MOD TO TRY TO FIND A SHUT PFF SWITCH.  IM SURE I MISSED SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY, CAN SOMEONE DROP ME A HINT OR SOMETHING?

 

[deathmorph]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

Are you sure it was RC8 and not an earlier RC? The earlier ones were larger (I forget why), but Devious Devices RC8 Full.7z is 332,917KB on disk for me.

 

I have now looked at the contents of the archives. The archives vary in size and only appear to be compressed differently. The content of the archives is the same. Problem solved. Thanks for the help

[vaultbait]

4 hours ago, wishwecould said:

Love the mod, makes for some fun play, however the whole plug thing...INSANELY ANNOYING...  too hard to get thte damn thing out and cant stop them from being applied.  seems like every thing I do it gets applied and is seriously interupting the game play.  immagine a mosquito buzzing in your ear 24/7/365....yeah quite frigging annouying every 50 feet she stops to rub herself and squirt a little. and the constant moaning OMFG!!!!! STOP IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I HAVE LOOKED THRU EVERY MOD TO TRY TO FIND A SHUT PFF SWITCH.  IM SURE I MISSED SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY, CAN SOMEONE DROP ME A HINT OR SOMETHING?

 

Aside from the Easter Egg corpse across the bridge leaving Sanctuary, this mod doesn't apply any devices to you. Odds are you're using some other mod which has support for DD, and that's what you're going to want to adjust frequency settings in.

 

Not knowing how the devices are being added to you, it's hard to provide specific recommendations.

 

Edit: On re-reading your rant, now I see you're complaining specifically about the frequency of interruptions when wearing a vibrator or plug. I'm pretty sure that's a new feature in the RCs and not part of released 2.0, so you should have MCM options to adjust how long in game time and with what amount of randomness that fires. Also if you put the plug or vibrator on yourself, you have the option of "manipulating the locks" so that you can just take it out again whenever you like without needing a key.

Edited August 11, 2022 by vaultbait

[Anonym0us2DF1CD]

Is there an option for the leg cuffs that doesn't play the jump animation, and instead makes them only able to walk?

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, Anonym0us2DF1CD said:

Is there an option for the leg cuffs that doesn't play the jump animation, and instead makes them only able to walk?

 

If you're using the RC8 release candidate of DD, there's a toggle for that in the MCM.