toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

[VirginMarie]

 

 

I have another problem, not entirely sure if it's a feature... when i cast the love shout, love is triggered but ends immediatly. So i doesn't do any damage because i don't have an orgasm,

 

It happens every time (5/5), but "beeing bound" doesn't mean i'm totally helpless, just in your gear.

 

Test in town out of combat.

First off, does using the first word only work? (tap the shout so you get "Love", not "Love You")

 

Next try 2nd word.. Love You... What exactly do you see happen? A sexlab animation starts and aborts immediately?

An abort is usually because there's no valid animation to play, such as when Devious Devices filters. To test if it's that, try temporarily disabling all animation filters in DDi... now does it play? If yes then why would you have no valid animations to play normally becomes the question.

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

 

I have another problem, not entirely sure if it's a feature... when i cast the love shout, love is triggered but ends immediatly. So i doesn't do any damage because i don't have an orgasm,

 

It happens every time (5/5), but "beeing bound" doesn't mean i'm totally helpless, just in your gear.

 

Test in town out of combat.

First off, does using the first word only work? (tap the shout so you get "Love", not "Love You")

 

Next try 2nd word.. Love You... What exactly do you see happen? A sexlab animation starts and aborts immediately?

An abort is usually because there's no valid animation to play, such as when Devious Devices filters. To test if it's that, try temporarily disabling all animation filters in DDi... now does it play? If yes then why would you have no valid animations to play normally becomes the question.

 

Didn't test in town yet, but it's not because it can't find animation. The enemies get calmed, come to me, we stand around, the animation starts, and few seconds after that it stops again, Nocturnal disappears and the enemies become hostile.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

I have another problem, not entirely sure if it's a feature... when i cast the love shout, love is triggered but ends immediatly. So i doesn't do any damage because i don't have an orgasm,

 

It happens every time (5/5), but "beeing bound" doesn't mean i'm totally helpless, just in your gear.

 

Test in town out of combat.

First off, does using the first word only work? (tap the shout so you get "Love", not "Love You")

 

Next try 2nd word.. Love You... What exactly do you see happen? A sexlab animation starts and aborts immediately?

An abort is usually because there's no valid animation to play, such as when Devious Devices filters. To test if it's that, try temporarily disabling all animation filters in DDi... now does it play? If yes then why would you have no valid animations to play normally becomes the question.

 

Didn't test in town yet, but it's not because it can't find animation. The enemies get calmed, come to me, we stand around, the animation starts, and few seconds after that it stops again, Nocturnal disappears and the enemies become hostile.

 

 

Trying out of combat is to rule out other complications.

 

You have yet to tell me if it's the first or 2nd word. Word 1 does not use sexlab, 2nd does, so they are very different. I'm assuming 2nd. Does the first word work?

 

We definitely need to know if turning off DDi filter changes things because what you just described is exactly what it would do if no animations found.

[Nazzzgul666]

 

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Trying out of combat is to rule out other complications.

 

You have yet to tell me if it's the first or 2nd word. Word 1 does not use sexlab, 2nd does, so they are very different. I'm assuming 2nd. Does the first word work?

 

We definitely need to know if turning off DDi filter changes things because what you just described is exactly what it would do if no animations found.

 

found the problem. It wasn't the DDi restrictions to animations, sexlab has an option to restrcit aggressive animations... since it started a 4some every time, and it seems i don't have consensual 4somes, that was the problem. At least it worked when i toggled it off.

[Revya2]

I'm having a problem, I can't love the shrines to get the third word of thu'um of love.

the journal entry says i can't be wearing any chasity devices so i took them all of but

when i active the first shrine in dibella's temple it just does the vanilla blessings.

Help?

[VirginMarie]

I'm having a problem, I can't love the shrines to get the third word of thu'um of love.

the journal entry says i can't be wearing any chasity devices so i took them all of but

when i active the first shrine in dibella's temple it just does the vanilla blessings.

Help?

1. Did you read Hamal's Journal?
2. If yes, do you have the quest "Shrine Love"?
3. If yes, with the Shrine Love quest selected in your journal, do you have a quest map marker on the shrine in Dibella's Temple?
4. If yes, when you activate the shrine, do you have any pop-up message?

[Twycross448]

1. Did you read Hamal's Journal?
2. If yes, do you have the quest "Shrine Love"?
3. If yes, with the Shrine Love quest selected in your journal, do you have a quest map marker on the shrine in Dibella's Temple?
4. If yes, when you activate the shrine, do you have any pop-up message?

 

So far, everything worked. I am now about 40 hours into the game, exhausted the Daedric side of the quests given by Nocturnal and now wanted to to focus on the Dibella side of things (waterfalls, spanking thieves, asphyxiation, freeing Cassie etc.).

 

I have the same problem (or at least a similar one) as Revya2 seems to have, though.

There is no separate activation point for the shrine in the temple of Dibella for the quest "Shrine Love". And the one there just gives me the vanilla blessing.

 

 

1. Did you read Hamal's Journal? Yes.
2. If yes, do you have the quest "Shrine Love"? Yes. On the stage where I am supposed to go to Markarth and love the first shrine inside the temple of Dibella.
3. If yes, with the Shrine Love quest selected in your journal, do you have a quest map marker on the shrine in Dibella's Temple? Yes, I do.
4. If yes, when you activate the shrine, do you have any pop-up message? No, there is no pop-up. Just the usual text in the top left screen informing me about gaining Dibellas blessing.

I am not positive on this, since I have not tested it yet, but can this be caused by me also having the mod "The Sisterhood of Dibella" (http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/392-the-sisterhood-of-dibella-2016-06-21/) installed? That mod does, after all, make more or less extensive changes to the temple of Dibella as well.

 

 

Second problem I have is with the asphyxiation quest line where I am supposed to go to the Throat of the World and follow the steps up, using 10 Dibella statues in the process.

My problem here is that the pop-up that displays always claims I have to read the Etched something before using the statue. The thing is, I have read (used) that etched stone tablet in the cairn close to the statue at least a dozen times (activated it, read the text in the pop-up, then clicked on OK). So it seems it does not recognize that I have read the tablet already.

 

I will try to see if there are any mod conflicts, as there are a couple of mods that modify the general area of the throat of the world and Ivarstead etc. in my load order.

 

 

Thank you for making this mod, btw. What I have seen so far is really, really well done.

 

[Revya2]

Same as Twycross448,

1-yes

2-yes

3-yes

4-no

 

I also have sisterhood of dibella installed.

[VirginMarie]

 

1. Did you read Hamal's Journal?
2. If yes, do you have the quest "Shrine Love"?
3. If yes, with the Shrine Love quest selected in your journal, do you have a quest map marker on the shrine in Dibella's Temple?
4. If yes, when you activate the shrine, do you have any pop-up message?

 

So far, everything worked. I am now about 40 hours into the game, exhausted the Daedric side of the quests given by Nocturnal and now wanted to to focus on the Dibella side of things (waterfalls, spanking thieves, asphyxiation, freeing Cassie etc.).

 

I have the same problem (or at least a similar one) as Revya2 seems to have, though.

There is no separate activation point for the shrine in the temple of Dibella for the quest "Shrine Love". And the one there just gives me the vanilla blessing.

 

 

1. Did you read Hamal's Journal? Yes.
2. If yes, do you have the quest "Shrine Love"? Yes. On the stage where I am supposed to go to Markarth and love the first shrine inside the temple of Dibella.
3. If yes, with the Shrine Love quest selected in your journal, do you have a quest map marker on the shrine in Dibella's Temple? Yes, I do.
4. If yes, when you activate the shrine, do you have any pop-up message? No, there is no pop-up. Just the usual text in the top left screen informing me about gaining Dibellas blessing.

I am not positive on this, since I have not tested it yet, but can this be caused by me also having the mod "The Sisterhood of Dibella" (http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/392-the-sisterhood-of-dibella-2016-06-21/) installed? That mod does, after all, make more or less extensive changes to the temple of Dibella as well.

 

Same as Twycross448,

1-yes

2-yes

3-yes

4-no

 

I also have sisterhood of dibella installed.

 

In both of your cases, I think you can progress by:

1. Stand near the shrine in the temple
2. Console command    SetStage VirginShrineLove 20

Let me know if that works.

I'm going to look into sisterhood of dibella to see if that could be causing it.

[Twycross448]

 

1. Stand near the shrine in the temple
2. Console command    SetStage VirginShrineLove 20

Let me know if that works.

 

For me, this does indeed work. The pop-up (Loving the shrine), the scene and the 2nd pop-up afterwards. And the progression to the next quest step.

 

It just is that activating the shrines (I tried the first 3 now) does not work. I need to force the next stage via console, but then it works flawlessly.

 

My current guess is that something may be interfering with (or downright overwriting) the trigger of the shrines.

 

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Still no luck with the quest "Erotic Asphyxiation" though. I just cannot get it to recognize that I have actually read the damned etched tablet. ^_^"

[VirginMarie]

 

 

1. Stand near the shrine in the temple
2. Console command    SetStage VirginShrineLove 20

Let me know if that works.

 

For me, this does indeed work. The pop-up (Loving the shrine), the scene and the 2nd pop-up afterwards. And the progression to the next quest step.

 

It just is that activating the shrines (I tried the first 3 now) does not work. I need to force the next stage via console, but then it works flawlessly.

 

My current guess is that something may be interfering with (or downright overwriting) the trigger of the shrines.

 

-.-.-.-

 

Still no luck with the quest "Erotic Asphyxiation" though. I just cannot get it to recognize that I have actually read the damned etched tablet. ^_^"

 

 

I've confirmed that sisterhood of dibella cannot be impacting anything.

 

I've looked hard and given all the info, there's really only one way for this to be failing for you... a damaged save game. In other words if you were to start a new game, and not break what I call the Golden Rule, you'd have no problem. I'm not saying you are breaking that golden rule, but mentioning since is how most people corrupt their saves.

 

For Erotic Asphyxiation, it's the same "tech". instead of an activation script on each shrine, it's on each etched tablet but otherwise the exact same thing. In this case you cannot advance the quest with any console command. But at least this quest is not needed to progress anything else.

[Revya2]

it worked perfectly for me Thank you!

[MadCat256]

New to the mod, love it so far but ran into a couple issues:

 

First off, is there any way to restrict it so that Nocturnal doesn't get triggered when the Dragonborn is learning from the Greybeards? I shouted at them as they requested and Nocturnal popped up in the middle of the already running scene to start virgin training. This caused issues with dialog conflicting and not displaying, and as a result neither scene completed properly.

 

The second issue involves Nocturnal's maiden. I was just outside town going to meet Barbas when a random encounter dragon attacked. I did not shout, however when I dismounted my horse to fight a naked girl in virgin devices ran up and initiated dialog with me. I couldn't exit the dialog either, I'd tab out and she'd instantly re-initiate it. I guess she wanted to play so badly she failed to notice my companions and the town being killed off by a dragon. Finally ended up having to play out the sex scene with her while in the middle of combat. Fortunately the dragon ignored us, but I lost half a town worth of NPCs and a couple good companions. There should be a combat check of some kind on this encounter.

[VirginMarie]

New to the mod, love it so far but ran into a couple issues:

 

First off, is there any way to restrict it so that Nocturnal doesn't get triggered when the Dragonborn is learning from the Greybeards?

MCM Encounters tab - Shout Detect (or Encounter) Chance - If set to zero no shout encounter will occur

 

I shouted at them as they requested and Nocturnal popped up in the middle of the already running scene to start virgin training. This caused issues with dialog conflicting and not displaying, and as a result neither scene completed properly.

The above of course is manually restricting it. Automatic would be tricky. I've tested this vanilla scene lots and while encounters can happen, I've never had the interruption break anything so I've not thought it to be needed.

 

The second issue involves Nocturnal's maiden. I was just outside town going to meet Barbas when a random encounter dragon attacked. I did not shout, however when I dismounted my horse to fight a naked girl in virgin devices ran up and initiated dialog with me. I couldn't exit the dialog either, I'd tab out and she'd instantly re-initiate it. I guess she wanted to play so badly she failed to notice my companions and the town being killed off by a dragon. Finally ended up having to play out the sex scene with her while in the middle of combat. Fortunately the dragon ignored us, but I lost half a town worth of NPCs and a couple good companions. There should be a combat check of some kind on this encounter.

 

There's several checks, including a combat check on all encounters and force greets.

 

But this will not always stop it because 1) Dragons will not place you in combat at all points of their appearance (they fly off out of range lots), and 2) the encounter can start an instant before the combat is registered (in this case you'd be able to break out of dialogue with tab).

 

Your options in this particular example with Cassia:

1. Try Tab to exit dialogue like you did
2. Take the "I'm not in the mood for anything" option so nothing further happens
3. Take an option with loving, then use sexlab's "END" key feature to abort early
4. Take any other option (not involving sexlab), then use this mod's Advance Hot Key (default space bar), which you can press and hold till it aborts.

 

[pm27carrera]

I have installed all the mods correctly i have a worry with an npc :

https://www.noelshack.com/2017-05-1485809213-screenshot5.png

Xpmse is updated

 

[VirginMarie]

I have installed all the mods correctly i have a worry with an npc :

https://www.noelshack.com/2017-05-1485809213-screenshot5.png

Xpmse is updated

 

That strange visual effect in the pic, will happen sometimes and has nothing to do with this mod. I don't know any solution.

 

It should happen rarely, not all the time. Does it happen for you every time?

[pm27carrera]

Once for the moment when you reload the character appeared correctly

[mercplatypus]

I have installed all the mods correctly i have a worry with an npc :

https://www.noelshack.com/2017-05-1485809213-screenshot5.png

Xpmse is updated

 

This particular issue is actually related too HDT packages and issues.  It is not limited to just Virgin.  Nocturnal will have this happen more often than others by virtue of effectively being summoned in whereas most NPCs start far enough away as to make the effect barely noticeable.  If you are getting this type of issue you will probably also get invisible women wandering around, which can be super annoying when they are hostile like forsworn or vampires.

[Brommer]

A few small issues I came across:

1) I use "Bathing in Skyrim" which can put a "dirty" texture on the character. This gets overridden by the virgin tattoos in the newest version after they no longer use slavetats.

2) Thuum of Love is incompatible with "deviously helpless". Helpless triggers during the love scene and messes things up.

3) I also couldn't love the shrine in the temple of Dibella in Markarth. I use SkyrimLL's Sisterhood of Dibella as well. Haven't tried other shrines yet.

4) The asphyxiation collar often triggers the punishment scene when no one is around to punish me. Sometimes there are people around but still nobody punishes me (happens especially in my player home). In both cases the player character just cycles between different ZAP poses and I have to use the reset option im MCM, so it's not a big problem.

 

[C5Kev]

@ VirginMarie

 

Wow!  I had DL'ed / played this part-way through when it 1st came out. Things seemed a bit glitchy (at least with the mods I was running at the time), the Northern Princess stuff didn't fit all that good (from what I remember), etc. I just DL'ed 3.8 and man, what a massive difference!  You've really done some solid work on this, so big-time kudos to you! Thank you for your hard work for all of us to enjoy this.

 

Now, if someone could help me get out of Sovengarde, I'd appreciate it !!!  I can't find where Shor's totem is to worship. Quite often I'm dumb as a stump, so I'm prolly standing in front of the damn thing!

[C5Kev]

 

I have installed all the mods correctly i have a worry with an npc :

https://www.noelshack.com/2017-05-1485809213-screenshot5.png

Xpmse is updated

 

This particular issue is actually related too HDT packages and issues.  It is not limited to just Virgin.  Nocturnal will have this happen more often than others by virtue of effectively being summoned in whereas most NPCs start far enough away as to make the effect barely noticeable.  If you are getting this type of issue you will probably also get invisible women wandering around, which can be super annoying when they are hostile like forsworn or vampires.

 

 

Yup, mercplatypus is 100% correct. One just needs to get used to it happening on occasion I guess.

 

There is an HDT Invisibility Fix mod that was over on Nexus, but it's been moved. Seems to work well for the most part, although I did "loose" Lydia for a while in one game.  It's here:  HDT Invisibility Fix mod

 

[VirginMarie]

A few small issues I came across:

1) I use "Bathing in Skyrim" which can put a "dirty" texture on the character. This gets overridden by the virgin tattoos in the newest version after they no longer use slavetats.

You could turn off tats in MCM. Good to know but no easy way for me to solve this. Will look into it.

 

2) Thuum of Love is incompatible with "deviously helpless". Helpless triggers during the love scene and messes things up.

Could you share specifics on what helpless ends up doing, and if this is breaking or more just annoying?

 

3) I also couldn't love the shrine in the temple of Dibella in Markarth. I use SkyrimLL's Sisterhood of Dibella as well. Haven't tried other shrines yet.

Let me know. I assume you have same symptoms as in the posts above, and you are using the setstage I gave. Any chance you could try it as a test with Sisterhood disabled?

​EDIT: Twycross448 has pretty much confirmed that Sisterhood causes this, and Virgin needs to be after Sisterhood in your load order.

 

4) The asphyxiation collar often triggers the punishment scene when no one is around to punish me. Sometimes there are people around but still nobody punishes me (happens especially in my player home). In both cases the player character just cycles between different ZAP poses and I have to use the reset option im MCM, so it's not a big problem.

You might also be able to use the Advance Hot Key (press and hold space by default) to move the scene forward. I'm aware that this can happen but for me it's rare and thought I already solved it. Will look into it... if I could recreate it more easily... where is your player home?

 

[VirginMarie]

@ VirginMarie

 

Wow!  I had DL'ed / played this part-way through when it 1st came out. Things seemed a bit glitchy (at least with the mods I was running at the time), the Northern Princess stuff didn't fit all that good (from what I remember), etc. I just DL'ed 3.8 and man, what a massive difference!  You've really done some solid work on this, so big-time kudos to you! Thank you for your hard work for all of us to enjoy this.

Thanks and glad you are enjoying it.

 

Now, if someone could help me get out of Sovengarde, I'd appreciate it !!!  I can't find where Shor's totem is to worship. Quite often I'm dumb as a stump, so I'm prolly standing in front of the damn thing!

If Virgin Training is selected in your journal you should have a map marker for it.

If no map marker, tell me what's in your journal for that quest, and what objective is active.

[Twycross448]

@VirginMary

 

Actually, the "Sisterhood of Dibella" mod can cause problems with your "Shout like a Virgin" mod. If it is loaded after SlaV, to be precise.

 

See, I took a look at both with TES5Edit, and both have references to the Dibella shrine object, but the Sisterhood esp naturally does not have your script attached to it.

 

 

I created a custom merge patch for myself (and put it last in my load order so not to cause a reordering of mods mid-playthrough, but of course with a new game, SlaV should be loaded after the Dibella mod then) and tried my best to "fix" any incompatiblities I noticed, and since that, I can love shrines no problem, and the asphyxiation statues also work correctly (was the same deal, basically... your mod not being last in load order, so to speak).

 

 

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My current problem is with the quest to free Carrie. Once you activate the necessary dwemer devices, a scene starts with Nocturnal appearing, you being put into some Zaz contraption and getting devices locked on you... and then nothing. I presume that Nocturnal is supposed to say something at this point, but she just stands there and idles.

 

If I then use the MCM menu "Reset Player" option, the contraption I am in disappears, and I can move again. When I try to talk to Nocturnal manually now, the game tells me "This actor is busy". So something seems to break the scene.

Trying to figure out what at this point. ^_^"

 

Apart from this, all other things I have done so far seem to work (waterfalls, spits, shrines, asphyxiation etc.)

 

Cheers! And thanks for a mod like this again. :-D

[VirginMarie]

@VirginMary

 

Actually, the "Sisterhood of Dibella" mod can cause problems with your "Shout like a Virgin" mod. If it is loaded after SlaV, to be precise.

 

See, I took a look at both with TES5Edit, and both have references to the Dibella shrine object, but the Sisterhood esp naturally does not have your script attached to it.

 

T5E_scr_003_LLSLAV.jpg

 

I created a custom merge patch for myself (and put it last in my load order so not to cause a reordering of mods mid-playthrough, but of course with a new game, SlaV should be loaded after the Dibella mod then) and tried my best to "fix" any incompatiblities I noticed, and since that, I can love shrines no problem, and the asphyxiation statues also work correctly (was the same deal, basically... your mod not being last in load order, so to speak).

 

Yes this would explain it. Odd thing is I purposely put Sisterhood after in load order but could not get it to break it. I wonder if this is only when using bashed (I was not using it). I will update my troubleshooting section.

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My current problem is with the quest to free Carrie. Once you activate the necessary dwemer devices, a scene starts with Nocturnal appearing, you being put into some Zaz contraption and getting devices locked on you... and then nothing. I presume that Nocturnal is supposed to say something at this point, but she just stands there and idles.

You'd be half way through a scene. Nocturnal should be speaking. Possible there's combat registered holding it up or Nocturnal is stuck getting close enough to you. Also possible you can press and hold Advance hot Key (space bar by default) to progress it. If that does not work, only way to recover would be to go back to your last save and give it another go. Let me know what comes of this.

 

If I then use the MCM menu "Reset Player" option, the contraption I am in disappears, and I can move again. When I try to talk to Nocturnal manually now, the game tells me "This actor is busy". So something seems to break the scene.

Trying to figure out what at this point. ^_^"

 

Apart from this, all other things I have done so far seem to work (waterfalls, spits, shrines, asphyxiation etc.)

 

Cheers! And thanks for a mod like this again. :-D